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#1 MADVLAD123
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This screen, along with many othersreleased back in November 2006 created this misconception that Halo 3 is halo 2.5 or Halo 2 in HD. The screen was from a very early build of multiplayer, and it obviously wasn't representative of the final graphics. But fanboys still use it as a basis to form their opinions about Halo 3's graphics. There are still people out there that people still think Halo 3 looks like this. These early pictures began this "Halo 3 looks bad" thing that's been going on all throughout systemwars.

Bungie made a mistake showing these early images, but people can finally see the light again by watching some of the newer videos that have been released showing the near-to-final graphics that are stunning. It's a shame that Halo 3 got this bad reputation just because of these early pics. If only more people saw the great looking side of Halo 3....

Pic time:

(NOTICE THE LIGHTING HERE....The light is coming from the Battle Rifle from a marine behind the player)

Some pics from the Beta...Yes, the Beta:

Some videos:

http://www.xbox360rally.com/halo-3-18-minutes-of-game-play-spoiler-altert-and-a-half/(Tsavo Highway and Replay feature)

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/734/734817/vid_2095499.html (Single Player Montage)

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/734/734817/vid_2096049.html (Multiplayer Montage)

http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/08/27/video-13-minutes-of-h3-guardian-multiplayer/ (Multiplayer on the Map Guardian)

http://www.halo3planet.com/2007/08/28/halo-3-sierra-117-campaign-video/ (Sierra 117 video... Bad quality but the video is amazing. The graphics, AI, and Audio all seem top notch even though the video is crappy)

Halo 3 looks great. Period. People need to get over those first few initial pictures and see Halo 3 for what it is now. It has changed since then.

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#2 HoldThePhone
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it's just not an impressive looking game. it looks great and all. just nothing that would phase me.
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#3 animaul
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Nice piece.

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You put a lot of work into this, nicely done.
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#5 Finale-
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You sure do make a lot of Halo threads.
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it's just not an impressive looking game. it looks great and all. just nothing that would phase me.HoldThePhone

You're not impressed with anything Halo related, so that's ok.

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#7 depresedmichfan
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yeah it looks great, and will play exceptionally

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#8 MADVLAD123
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You sure do make a lot of Halo threads. Finale-

I like halo. Is that a problem?

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#9 lawlessx
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nice thread..wanna count the ammount of "halo3 sucks" posts that will spawn because of this?
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[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]it's just not an impressive looking game. it looks great and all. just nothing that would phase me.MADVLAD123

You're not impressed with anything Halo related, so that's ok.

true, but i dont need to be impressed by the game in order to give an honest opinion on its visuals. i think we were all expecting a little better.

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#11 Choga
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Those graphics are final (excluding the beta pics) because Halo 3 has gone gold today :D I can't wait for 11:59 p.m. on September 24th!
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Those offscreen shots = a whole bucket full of "I don't care". And normally it just comes in $5 juice boxes.
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[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]it's just not an impressive looking game. it looks great and all. just nothing that would phase me.MADVLAD123

You're not impressed with anything Halo related, so that's ok.

There is only one Halo 3.

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nice thread..wanna count the ammount of "halo3 sucks" posts that will spawn because of this?lawlessx

There's nothing I can do to stop them. But hopefully I've enlightened at least one person....I hope :cry:

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#15 MADVLAD123
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[QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]

[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]it's just not an impressive looking game. it looks great and all. just nothing that would phase me.SillyManimal

You're not impressed with anything Halo related, so that's ok.

There is only one Halo 3.

REALLY? :shock:

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People care about graphics to much, they look good enough to me.
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The biggest problem is the level geometry. Looks perfectly fine but the low poly count on the levels makes it look like Halo2:HD. Nothing spectacular even if you discount the poor geometry though.
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#18 Captain_Waffles
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Props to TC for effort, but some fanboys can never be swayed.
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Amazing. Looking forward for it.
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People care about graphics to much, they look good enough to me.Grantelicious

by all means, halo 3 could look like halo 2 it wouldn't matter. it just hasnt done anything new. I called it earlier, they need a 3rd arm for triple wield if they want AAA reviews.

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#21 MADVLAD123
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[QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]

[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]it's just not an impressive looking game. it looks great and all. just nothing that would phase me.HoldThePhone

You're not impressed with anything Halo related, so that's ok.

true, but i dont need to be impressed by the game in order to give an honest opinion on its visuals. i think we were all expecting a little better.

It exceeded my expectations...and I played Gears of War..I might be a halo fanboy, but the game still looks damn good. Worthy entry to the Halo franchise.

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#22 SillyManimal
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[QUOTE="SillyManimal"][QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]

[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]it's just not an impressive looking game. it looks great and all. just nothing that would phase me.MADVLAD123

You're not impressed with anything Halo related, so that's ok.

There is only one Halo 3.

REALLY? :shock:

That's what I've heard.

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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]nice thread..wanna count the ammount of "halo3 sucks" posts that will spawn because of this?MADVLAD123

There's nothing I can do to stop them. But hopefully I've enlightened at least one person....I hope :cry:

and your thread does make a great point..bungie made a huge mistake releasing those pre-alpha shots. i know it was to start the hype for halo3 a year before its release,but they didnt have to release such god awful pics

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Yeah, I dont understand the bashing. I think Halo 3 looks amazing. It's just not in that "realistic" style that people seem to expect from next-gen shooters.
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the last vid i found in a higher quality the other day,but i dont have a link, forgot where i seen it at. the final version of halo 3 looks fantastic.
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[QUOTE="Grantelicious"]People care about graphics to much, they look good enough to me.HoldThePhone

by all means, halo 3 could look like halo 2 it wouldn't matter. it just hasnt done anything new. I called it earlier, they need a 3rd arm for triple wield if they want AAA reviews.

4 player co-op and a replay feature not good enough eh?

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Halo has never needed to be defended. The Cows keep it alive more than we do. Not to mention Halo is still the Console shooter to beat. It has only been beaten by itself. And will only be beaten by itself. All who hate on it will be Pwned. Period. So just let them talk, they did it with halo2 and gears and bioshock as well.
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Halo has never needed to be defended. The Cows keep it alive more than we do. Not to mention Halo is still the Console shooter to beat. It has only been beaten by itself. And will only be beaten by itself. All who hate on it will be Pwned. Period. So just let them talk, they did it with halo2 and gears and bioshock as well.akuma303x

lol, thats true. all the cows did say that halo 2 and gears would flop.

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Yeah, I dont understand the bashing. I think Halo 3 looks amazing. It's just not in that "realistic" style that people seem to expect from next-gen shooters.TaCoDuDe

I agree. i think people often mistake the art style of games like halo3 for sub par graphics because they arent made to look as realistic like a graw or kz2

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[QUOTE="Grantelicious"]People care about graphics to much, they look good enough to me.HoldThePhone

by all means, halo 3 could look like halo 2 it wouldn't matter. it just hasnt done anything new. I called it earlier, they need a 3rd arm for triple wield if they want AAA reviews.

They've done enough to change the gameplay up a bit. They've added Equipment, the ability to rip out turrets and move around in 3rd person, large open environments like in Halo 3, and some new additions to your arsenal and to the enemies as well as their AI. If that's not enough a whole load of features is being pumped into the multiplayer like the Forge or Playback (which also works with singleplayer). Bungie always said this was the Halo game they've always wanted to make. I have high hopes for AAA.

EDIT: forgot 4 player Co-op.

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[QUOTE="MADVLAD123"]

[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]it's just not an impressive looking game. it looks great and all. just nothing that would phase me.SillyManimal

You're not impressed with anything Halo related, so that's ok.

There is only one Halo 3.

yeah, since the the halo series starts at three and then counts down.

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#32 lawlessx
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Yeah, I dont understand the bashing. I think Halo 3 looks amazing. It's just not in that "realistic" style that people seem to expect from next-gen shooters.TaCoDuDe

alot of people expected( including cows) halo3 to look like gears of war. there was no way bungie could make halo3 looked like gears of war and still keep that halo feel everybody knows and loves

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[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]

[QUOTE="Grantelicious"]People care about graphics to much, they look good enough to me.lawlessx

by all means, halo 3 could look like halo 2 it wouldn't matter. it just hasnt done anything new. I called it earlier, they need a 3rd arm for triple wield if they want AAA reviews.

4 player co-op and a replay feature not good enough eh?

Replays and co-op, this is next-gen!

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*sigh* i wanna play halo 3 soooo bad
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#35 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]

[QUOTE="Grantelicious"]People care about graphics to much, they look good enough to me.HoldThePhone

by all means, halo 3 could look like halo 2 it wouldn't matter. it just hasnt done anything new. I called it earlier, they need a 3rd arm for triple wield if they want AAA reviews.

4 player co-op and a replay feature not good enough eh?

Replays and co-op, this is next-gen!

oh then please describe to me a "next gen" feature. i personally think being able to save video recordings of you playing the game at anytime and sending them to your friends..is a pretty cool idea.

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Those offscreen shots = a whole bucket full of "I don't care". And normally it just comes in $5 juice boxes.Tiefster

Dont post then. I dont understand the purpose of entering a thread of which the topic is something you dont care about, simply to post and inform everyone that you dont care.

What's the point?

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[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]

[QUOTE="Grantelicious"]People care about graphics to much, they look good enough to me.MADVLAD123

by all means, halo 3 could look like halo 2 it wouldn't matter. it just hasnt done anything new. I called it earlier, they need a 3rd arm for triple wield if they want AAA reviews.

They've done enough to change the gameplay up a bit. They've added Equipment, the ability to rip out turrets and move around in 3rd person, large open environments like in Halo 3, and some new additions to your arsenal and to the enemies as well as their AI. If that's not enough a whole load of features is being pumped into the multiplayer like the Forge or Playback (which also works with singleplayer). Bungie always said this was the Halo game they've always wanted to make. I have high hopes for AAA.

oh im sure it will please halo fans immesnly, i just think the game's refusal to change will hurt it on reviews. Much like Metroid Prime 3

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[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]

[QUOTE="Grantelicious"]People care about graphics to much, they look good enough to me.MADVLAD123

by all means, halo 3 could look like halo 2 it wouldn't matter. it just hasnt done anything new. I called it earlier, they need a 3rd arm for triple wield if they want AAA reviews.

They've done enough to change the gameplay up a bit. They've added Equipment, the ability to rip out turrets and move around in 3rd person, large open environments like in Halo 3, and some new additions to your arsenal and to the enemies as well as their AI. If that's not enough a whole load of features is being pumped into the multiplayer like the Forge or Playback (which also works with singleplayer). Bungie always said this was the Halo game they've always wanted to make. I have high hopes for AAA.

theyve added tons of stuff. name another console game with a forge mode or the saved games feature. there isnt any. making those both key console innovations. cows and sometimes sheep will just have to deal with it.

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[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]

[QUOTE="Grantelicious"]People care about graphics to much, they look good enough to me.lawlessx

by all means, halo 3 could look like halo 2 it wouldn't matter. it just hasnt done anything new. I called it earlier, they need a 3rd arm for triple wield if they want AAA reviews.

4 player co-op and a replay feature not good enough eh?

Not to mention forge with its seemingly endless customization. people act like bungie isnt improving upon an already great product

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[QUOTE="akuma303x"]Halo has never needed to be defended. The Cows keep it alive more than we do. Not to mention Halo is still the Console shooter to beat. It has only been beaten by itself. And will only be beaten by itself. All who hate on it will be Pwned. Period. So just let them talk, they did it with halo2 and gears and bioshock as well.mtradr43

lol, thats true. all the cows did say that halo 2 and gears would flop.

then they try to say GEARS is on PC so they dont have to contend with it, And they are still trying to beat HALO2, let alone HALO3. It's funny how much this is quickly forgotten. By the way I know why they wont contend with GEARS. It still has the highest Graphical rating on a console this gen. Cows hate that. But teh, uncharted.
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Too bad killzone 2 looks better.
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[QUOTE="mtradr43"]

[QUOTE="akuma303x"]Halo has never needed to be defended. The Cows keep it alive more than we do. Not to mention Halo is still the Console shooter to beat. It has only been beaten by itself. And will only be beaten by itself. All who hate on it will be Pwned. Period. So just let them talk, they did it with halo2 and gears and bioshock as well.akuma303x

lol, thats true. all the cows did say that halo 2 and gears would flop.

then they try to say GEARS is on PC so they dont have to contend with it, And they are still trying to beat HALO2, let alone HALO3. It's funny how much this is quickly forgotten. By the way I know why they wont contend with GEARS. It still has the highest Graphical rating on a console this gen. Cows hate that. But teh, uncharted.

true. but i still say bioshock looks a little better than gears. and halo 3 looks better as well, to an extent (love the art direction)

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#43 akuma303x
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Too bad killzone 2 looks better.haseeb_1989
I think it has more going on, but the artistic look is in the eye of the beholder. I like halo's color and light more. Gears is like KZ2. The dark graphics get old.
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[QUOTE="HoldThePhone"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]

[QUOTE="Grantelicious"]People care about graphics to much, they look good enough to me.lawlessx

by all means, halo 3 could look like halo 2 it wouldn't matter. it just hasnt done anything new. I called it earlier, they need a 3rd arm for triple wield if they want AAA reviews.

4 player co-op and a replay feature not good enough eh?

Replays and co-op, this is next-gen!

oh then please describe to me a "next gen" feature.

That's for the devs to decide, all i know is that i've been recording counter-strike matches for the past 8 years. and co-op has been done since the snes.

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Another thing to mention is that Halo 3 has wide open environments where everything is active and things happen everywhere no matter where you are (shown in one of the videos where the camera is pulled out of where MC is and moved down further into the map and you see another battle going on with Marines and Hunters). It's AI is also greatly improved and very impressive (Pack mentality, formations, grunts working together as a team and running off or doing a suicide run if leader is killed, etc). Not to mention the amount of enemies on screen can be pretty impressive. bungie mentioned one battle where the amount of enemies was greater than the amount of enemies in the first level of Halo: CE. That's impressive and epic.
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[QUOTE="haseeb_1989"]Too bad killzone 2 looks better.akuma303x
I think it has more going on, but the artistic look is in the eye of the beholder. I like halo's color and light more. Gears is like KZ2. The dark graphics get old.

and, last time i checked haseeb, it isnt wise to pit the sequal toa game from a sub par dev that couldnt even score A and was outsold by halo 2 in a matter of a few weeks (if not less), against a proven AAA franchise.

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#47 mtradr43
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="HoldThePhone"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]

[QUOTE="Grantelicious"]People care about graphics to much, they look good enough to me.HoldThePhone

by all means, halo 3 could look like halo 2 it wouldn't matter. it just hasnt done anything new. I called it earlier, they need a 3rd arm for triple wield if they want AAA reviews.

4 player co-op and a replay feature not good enough eh?

Replays and co-op, this is next-gen!

oh then please describe to me a "next gen" feature.

That's for the devs to decide, all i know is that i've been recording counter-strike matches for the past 8 years. and co-op has been done since the snes.

how many consoles allow you to do the recording and editing? none. thats what they are going to be looking at. of course the pc has done it, the pc has a multitude of tools and stuff that consoles just dont have. the fact that bungie has done what they have to this extent is just amazing.

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oh im sure it will please halo fans immesnly, i just think the game's refusal to change will hurt it on reviews. Much like Metroid Prime 3HoldThePhone

So the script should be re-written for a sequal? How about Blizzard just take the Zerg and Terrans out of Starcraft II so its doesn't seem too familiar to the original.

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#49 HoldThePhone
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Another thing to mention is that Halo 3 has wide open environments where everything is active and things happen everywhere no matter where you are (shown in one of the videos where the camera is pulled out of where MC is and moved down further into the map and you see another battle going on with Marines and Hunters). It's AI is also greatly improved and very impressive (Pack mentality, formations, grunts working together as a team and running off or doing a suicide run if leader is killed, etc). Not to mention the amount of enemies on screen can be pretty impressive. bungie mentioned one battle where the amount of enemies was greater than the amount of enemies in the first level of Halo: CE. That's impressive and epic.MADVLAD123

i think halo is fun, dont get me wrong. It's just that when I do my FPS, i like to play competitvely. PC is the best outlet for my interests.

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#50 akuma303x
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="HoldThePhone"]

[QUOTE="Grantelicious"]People care about graphics to much, they look good enough to me.HoldThePhone

by all means, halo 3 could look like halo 2 it wouldn't matter. it just hasnt done anything new. I called it earlier, they need a 3rd arm for triple wield if they want AAA reviews.

4 player co-op and a replay feature not good enough eh?

Replays and co-op, this is next-gen!

Name something KZ2 does NEXTGEN!