The SOLE reason why consoles will NEVER have TOTAL CONVERSION MODS(56k=death):

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#1 True_Gamer_
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Try making this on a console:

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#2 II_Seraphim_II
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So whats the reason?
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#3 Mr_Nordquist
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Why the hell are those elephants so huge?
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#4 Juggernaut140
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You might as well have made the name of this thread "why consoles will never have mods"
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#5 True_Gamer_
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So whats the reason?II_Seraphim_II

The above looked like this:

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#6 Antikyth3ra
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*yawn* Boring

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#7 dragonpuppy
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Because consoles won't get the game in the first place? :?

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#8 True_Gamer_
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You might as well have made the name of this thread "why consoles will never have mods" Juggernaut140
Its called: the extend of coding changes required is impossible on consoles...
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#9 True_Gamer_
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*yawn* Boring

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Interesting enough to post? :lol:

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Why the hell are those elephants so huge?Mr_Nordquist

They're from LOTR, have you seen the movies? They appear in them

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#11 12345678ew
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lol, we won't get mods because people don't like hackers on consoles..... so they encript the disk.

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#12 JigglyWiggly_
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It's not impossible just unpractical, install the game onto your hard drive, change the graphics from the hard drive, try not to change anything major hopefully :D you will have to compile code for the 360's cpu... which is aka suck.
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#13 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]So whats the reason?True_Gamer_

The above looked like this:

Oh, I just thought you were going to tell us the reason rather than post images. Im sure that not ever TC Mod is for RTSes.
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#14 12345678ew
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oh, and that game looks like xbox original graphics, maybe ps2.

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#15 Mr_Nordquist
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[QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]Why the hell are those elephants so huge?lundy86_4

They're from LOTR, have you seen the movies? They appear in them

Oh, now I get it. I just thought it was Empire Total War with some new units, but not a LotR skin. Makes more sense that way.
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#16 Antikyth3ra
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[QUOTE="Antikyth3ra"]

*yawn* Boring

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Interesting enough to post? :lol:

Posting doesn't take up much time and considering its midnight i don't have much to do so don't flatter yourself.

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#17 whatisazerg
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Why the hell are those elephants so huge?Mr_Nordquist

They aren't elephants, noob. They are "oliphants".

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#18 Juggernaut140
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[QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]Why the hell are those elephants so huge?whatisazerg

They aren't elephants, noob. They are "oliphants".

Beat meh to it
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#19 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]Why the hell are those elephants so huge?Mr_Nordquist

They're from LOTR, have you seen the movies? They appear in them

Oh, now I get it. I just thought it was Empire Total War with some new units, but not a LotR skin. Makes more sense that way.

Yeah I didn't notice at first, then I noticed the similarity in the units.

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#20 whatisazerg
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]Why the hell are those elephants so huge?Mr_Nordquist

They're from LOTR, have you seen the movies? They appear in them

Oh, now I get it. I just thought it was Empire Total War with some new units, but not a LotR skin. Makes more sense that way.

So when you seen the guy riding the worg a few pictures b4 the oliphants..... you thought that was a new unit in Total War??

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#21 Mr_Nordquist
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[QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

They're from LOTR, have you seen the movies? They appear in them

whatisazerg

Oh, now I get it. I just thought it was Empire Total War with some new units, but not a LotR skin. Makes more sense that way.

So when you seen the guy riding the worg a few pictures b4 the oliphants..... you thought that was a new unit in Total War??

Here's what I didn't think it was. An LotR unit. Sorry, I'm not some cult follower of the LotR series.
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What's that reason? Are you saying someone couldn't make that? :?
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"]Why the hell are those elephants so huge?Mr_Nordquist

They're from LOTR, have you seen the movies? They appear in them

Oh, now I get it. I just thought it was Empire Total War with some new units, but not a LotR skin. Makes more sense that way.

Learn the Lore foo!
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#24 agentfred
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I think your point would have been better proven with words.

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#25 Disturbed_One98
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If OnLive is considered a "console" then you are wrong :P.

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#26 agentfred
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If OnLive is considered a "console" then you are wrong :P.

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Does OnLive support modding?

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#27 WilliamRLBaker
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So....why is this the case then?
First off the only TRUE reason a TOTAL conversion mod wouldn't be capable on a console is....

1.Actual coding and other stuff has to be done in a TOTAL conversion mod its not just some random peices put together the people that make TOTAL conversion mods actually have programming knowledge they have to edit actual memory of the game and not just throw some textures around.

2.All most all TOTAL conversion mods increase the system requirements of a game so computers that could just play the game on high will no longer be able to and will often have to crank it down to medium or low.

3.This is not a point in power you act like the physical graphical capabilities of that game and the amount of units some how precludes it...Guess what how powerful of a computer do you need to play empire total war with that total conversion mod? likely more then what the current generation of consoles has....That means nothing because im sure by next gen or the gen after consoles will be perfectly capable of what you've shown.

You clearly have no point i had to give you points in this post and none of your points matter because eventually consoles will be at the level to produce those graphical and unit limits, and Total conversion mods need actual programming knowledge so short of a developer doing the conversion mod we wouldn't see a user do it, and total conversion mods change the very system requirements of the game so they aren't the end all be all of the universe.

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#28 MetroidPrimePwn
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[QUOTE="Disturbed_One98"]

If OnLive is considered a "console" then you are wrong :P.

agentfred

Does OnLive support modding?

Nope. It's all Digital Distribution. You don't even have access to the games codes, since they're miles away from you.

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#29 True_Gamer_
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So....why is this the case then?
First off the only TRUE reason a TOTAL conversion mod wouldn't be capable on a console is....

1.Actual coding and other stuff has to be done in a TOTAL conversion mod its not just some random peices put together the people that make TOTAL conversion mods actually have programming knowledge they have to edit actual memory of the game and not just throw some textures around.

2.All most all TOTAL conversion mods increase the system requirements of a game so computers that could just play the game on high will no longer be able to and will often have to crank it down to medium or low.

3.This is not a point in power you act like the physical graphical capabilities of that game and the amount of units some how precludes it...Guess what how powerful of a computer do you need to play empire total war with that total conversion mod? likely more then what the current generation of consoles has....That means nothing because im sure by next gen or the gen after consoles will be perfectly capable of what you've shown.

You clearly have no point i had to give you points in this post and none of your points matter because eventually consoles will be at the level to produce those graphical and unit limits, and Total conversion mods need actual programming knowledge so short of a developer doing the conversion mod we wouldn't see a user do it, and total conversion mods change the very system requirements of the game so they aren't the end all be all of the universe.

WilliamRLBaker

Look at the pictures. They are from a Total Conversion called Third Age and are based on Medieval 2 Total War a 2006 game.... Only the fact that they made you believe that its Empire TW is enough. And the main reason that a total conversion will never be possible on consoles is that console/game makers WILL NEVER allow the extent of freedom allowed to tinker with the game code...capish?

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Black Mesa Source>>>>ALL
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#31 whatisazerg
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[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Nordquist"] Oh, now I get it. I just thought it was Empire Total War with some new units, but not a LotR skin. Makes more sense that way.Mr_Nordquist

So when you seen the guy riding the worg a few pictures b4 the oliphants..... you thought that was a new unit in Total War??

Here's what I didn't think it was. An LotR unit. Sorry, I'm not some cult follower of the LotR series.

apology accepted. :P

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#32 True_Gamer_
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Black Mesa Source>>>>ALLwalkingdream
Have you ever seen anything to this scale in any game?
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#33 iam2green
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maybe because consoles have bad mods.
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#34 bingbaocao
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[QUOTE="Antikyth3ra"]

*yawn* Boring

True_Gamer_

Interesting enough to post? :lol:

what kind of a defense is that? :? i mean it's not like hitting the quick reply button takes that much time... or work

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#35 dream431ca
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That's not a good reason.

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#36 The_Game21x
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Hmm...there doesn't seem to be an adequate reason as to why TC mods can't be made on a console...just a bunch of pictures...

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#37 JangoWuzHere
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I think your point would have been better proven with words.

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Hey a picture's worth a thousand words is it not?:p
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#38 GeoffZak
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RTS games suck.

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#39 -Snooze-
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RTS games suck.

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#40 Rougehunter
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RTS games suck.

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#41 mo0ksi
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A picture says a 1000 words... But this isn't the case.
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#42 GeoffZak
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[QUOTE="GeoffZak"]

RTS games suck.

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Says the person with Sonic unleashed in their games played

Yeah. So?... RTS games bore me, playing with the army is better than playing as the army. When playing AS the army, it's like you're not playing a game, give some orders and watch.

Sonic Unleashed was my personal 2008 game of the year. Oh right, it can't be because it didn't get better than a 9.5 from gamespot. How foolish of me.

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#43 Bebi_vegeta
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A picture says a 1000 words... But this isn't the case.mo0ksi

Unless you don't know what's the game and haven't seen the movie... I guess so.

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#44 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]

[QUOTE="GeoffZak"]

RTS games suck.

GeoffZak

Says the person with Sonic unleashed in their games played

Yeah. So?... RTS games bore me, playing with the army is better than playing as the army. When playing AS the army, it's like you're not playing a game, give some orders and watch.

Sonic Unleashed was my personal 2008 game of the year. Oh right, it can't be because it didn't get better than a 9.5 from gamespot. How foolish of me.

If anything is boring, it's Far Cry 2...

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[QUOTE="GeoffZak"]

[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]Says the person with Sonic unleashed in their games played

Bebi_vegeta

Yeah. So?... RTS games bore me, playing with the army is better than playing as the army. When playing AS the army, it's like you're not playing a game, give some orders and watch.

Sonic Unleashed was my personal 2008 game of the year. Oh right, it can't be because it didn't get better than a 9.5 from gamespot. How foolish of me.

If anything is boring, it's Far Cry 2...

The thing that keeps me playing Far Cry 2 is the map editor. More games need to include level creation like Far Cry 2, it keeps me coming back with more ideas for new maps and I also like to check out maps made by other users. Far Cry 2 makes it easy to create and share your own maps.

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#46 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="GeoffZak"]

Yeah. So?... RTS games bore me, playing with the army is better than playing as the army. When playing AS the army, it's like you're not playing a game, give some orders and watch.

Sonic Unleashed was my personal 2008 game of the year. Oh right, it can't be because it didn't get better than a 9.5 from gamespot. How foolish of me.

GeoffZak

If anything is boring, it's Far Cry 2...

The thing that keeps me playing Far Cry 2 is the map editor. More games need to include level creation like Far Cry 2, it keeps me coming back with more ideas for new maps and I also like to check out maps made by other users. Far Cry 2 makes it easy to create and share your own maps.

The core game is still boring... Unless people bought FC2 for map editing... which many PC game offer, example RTS.

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#47 True_Gamer_
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="GeoffZak"]

Yeah. So?... RTS games bore me, playing with the army is better than playing as the army. When playing AS the army, it's like you're not playing a game, give some orders and watch.

Sonic Unleashed was my personal 2008 game of the year. Oh right, it can't be because it didn't get better than a 9.5 from gamespot. How foolish of me.

GeoffZak

If anything is boring, it's Far Cry 2...

The thing that keeps me playing Far Cry 2 is the map editor. More games need to include level creation like Far Cry 2, it keeps me coming back with more ideas for new maps and I also like to check out maps made by other users. Far Cry 2 makes it easy to create and share your own maps.

Hahahahaha that was want I meant....map editor is a pure joke compared to total conversions....oh and M2TWK aint an RTS....thats why I agree that RTS games are boring particularly the ones copied off DUne2...
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#48 rusty_armor1
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Fall From Heaven II>>>>Black Mesa Source>>>>ALLwalkingdream

Fixed. First one to guess which game this mod is based on get a cookie.

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#49 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]A picture says a 1000 words... But this isn't the case.Bebi_vegeta

Unless you don't know what's the game and haven't seen the movie... I guess so.

I do know about both, but this is just pointless.
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#50 nintendog66
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       Sorry sir... This is what happens when you've got a strong community backing up a game, it's more difficult that regular modding on PCs but it's well worth it.