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#51 TheSterls
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[QUOTE="ThePsTriple"]From 2006 right?lundy86_4

Relevance? Do games from the beginning of the gen become unplayable after a period of time?

That has alot of relevance because after a full 1 year head start it only has 1 more high scoreing Exclusive? And if you take metiacritic scores( which yes are more important) its already ahead.

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#53 dovberg
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Splinter Cell Conviction and Allen Wake didn't come out this year did they?

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#54 TheSterls
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[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

HOnestly, the PC exclusives mentioned are games that people play consoles because they don't care. I mean, who plays Xbox and likes RTS games? Not to mention that most of those games are not mainstream and you also haven't taken into account games that are exclusive to consoles overall such as Army of Two: The 40th Day and as well as underhyped console games such as Alan Wake and Modnation (even though you put in such games for PC and those games were significantly less known then the "underhyped" titles I mentioned).

Jeez, and PC gamers wonder what all the hate is about.

Then again, there are probably much better people to represent PC gaming then someone who childishly states their opinions as fact so I'd hope only some PC gamers have such an attitude.

Nyuuuu

The hate is because PC gaming is ontop. Best library, best graphics, best control scheme. It's not our fault, it's just the way it goes. :P

Best library? If you like Action Advenuture, Fighting and sports the pc Sucks . Best graphics ? Depends on your pc i guess but you will pay for it. Best conrols? For what RTS and WRpgs;s some games the KB+M are horribble for.

How are consoles getting any beating? The console industry is doing so well in fact its the first generation 3 hardwarecompaines have been able to make a profit during the same generation.

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#55 Nyuuuu
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="Nyuuuu"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] its concrete evidence that it has more to play but not necessarily a superior platform... A major thing that PC's lack is polish, with the lack of standards and varied systems no universal identity I'd say that consoles are a smoother experience getting and playing a game...

Gamepsot Spreadsheet is concrete evidence. :? More high scoring exclusives = better library = the best gaming platform. Pretty simple really. :)

no because best gaming platform takes everything into account, and a lot of its subjective, for me 360 is the best and I own a computer on the side for all the other games but I enjoy my 360 more exclusives don't matter as much as everyone would like to think they do.

Yes, for you. Lets say I support Liverpool Football Club. I can say they're the best, but the fact that Manchester United win the Premier League negates that. The Gamespot Spreadsheet proves that at this point in time, the PC has the strongest library of games. SUBJECTIVITY doesn't come into play, because we're discussing which platform is the best, not which platform is our favorite.
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="Nyuuuu"] Gamepsot Spreadsheet is concrete evidence. :? More high scoring exclusives = better library = the best gaming platform. Pretty simple really. :)Nyuuuu
no because best gaming platform takes everything into account, and a lot of its subjective, for me 360 is the best and I own a computer on the side for all the other games but I enjoy my 360 more exclusives don't matter as much as everyone would like to think they do.

Yes, for you. Lets say I support Liverpool Football Club. I can say they're the best, but the fact that Manchester United win the Premier League negates that. The Gamespot Spreadsheet proves that at this point in time, the PC has the strongest library of games. SUBJECTIVITY doesn't come into play, because we're discussing which platform is the best, not which platform is our favorite.

But the Ps3 won goty last2 years in a row so if they keep winning the big prize not to mention they have a slew of AA and AAA titles that are ps3/360 that cant even be played on pc.

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[QUOTE="Nyuuuu"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="Nyuuuu"] Gamepsot Spreadsheet is concrete evidence. :? More high scoring exclusives = better library = the best gaming platform. Pretty simple really. :)

no because best gaming platform takes everything into account, and a lot of its subjective, for me 360 is the best and I own a computer on the side for all the other games but I enjoy my 360 more exclusives don't matter as much as everyone would like to think they do.

Yes, for you. Lets say I support Liverpool Football Club. I can say they're the best, but the fact that Manchester United win the Premier League negates that. The Gamespot Spreadsheet proves that at this point in time, the PC has the strongest library of games. SUBJECTIVITY doesn't come into play, because we're discussing which platform is the best, not which platform is our favorite.

but it doens't have the strongest library of games, if you eliminate MMO and strategy, you just negate 90% of PC's exclusives, so its the best place for strategy and MMO games but its not the best or the strongest library. those numbers don't tell the full story and the PC exclusive library is pretty lackluster for someone like me.
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But the Ps3 won goty last2 years in a row so if they keep winning the big prize not to mention they have a slew of AA and AAA titles that are ps3/360 that cant even be played on pc.TheSterls
2 games doesn't equal a better library. The PC has both quality AND quantity. Just look at the damn spreadsheet. Since when did having less highly rated games equal better? :?
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[QUOTE="TheSterls"]But the Ps3 won goty last2 years in a row so if they keep winning the big prize not to mention they have a slew of AA and AAA titles that are ps3/360 that cant even be played on pc.Nyuuuu
2 games doesn't equal a better library. The PC has both quality AND quantity. Just look at the damn spreadsheet. Since when did having less highly rated games equal better? :?

If you take out MMO and RTS and the pc libary is crippled. If you are not a fan of ether of those genres then the pc has by far the worst library

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That has alot of relevance because after a full 1 year head start it only has 1 more high scoreing Exclusive? And if you take metiacritic scores( which yes are more important) its already ahead.

TheSterls

You are making a different point than the original poster was. I agree with yours.

The other poster was talking about the 1 exclusive scored in 2006, and how today's games are better. That is irrelevant. That's the score it got, and we don't change past scores as time progresses.

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But the Ps3 won goty last2 years in a row so if they keep winning the big prize not to mention they have a slew of AA and AAA titles that are ps3/360 that cant even be played on pc.

TheSterls

the pc still has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined and more overall high scoring games than any one console.

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#62 TheSterls
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[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

But the Ps3 won goty last2 years in a row so if they keep winning the big prize not to mention they have a slew of AA and AAA titles that are ps3/360 that cant even be played on pc.

CaseyWegner

the pc still has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined and more overall high scoring games than any one console.

2 bad its mostly in 2 genres that console gamers dont care about . And the ps3 has still won more GOTYS then the pc this generation.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

But the Ps3 won goty last2 years in a row so if they keep winning the big prize not to mention they have a slew of AA and AAA titles that are ps3/360 that cant even be played on pc.

TheSterls

the pc still has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined and more overall high scoring games than any one console.

2 bad its mostly in 2 genres that console gamers dont care about . And the ps3 has still won more GOTYS then the pc this generation.

what's point in mentioning goty? it's two games. :|

best to leave your personal opinion out of this.

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[QUOTE="Nyuuuu"][QUOTE="TheSterls"]But the Ps3 won goty last2 years in a row so if they keep winning the big prize not to mention they have a slew of AA and AAA titles that are ps3/360 that cant even be played on pc.TheSterls

2 games doesn't equal a better library. The PC has both quality AND quantity. Just look at the damn spreadsheet. Since when did having less highly rated games equal better? :?

If you take out MMO and RTS and the pc libary is crippled. If you are not a fan of ether of those genres then the pc has by far the worst library

So we have to LIMIT the PCs library to prove the consoles are superior? :lol: I think that you've just finished this thread. What if I don't like sports games and fighting games?
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#65 TheSterls
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[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

the pc still has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined and more overall high scoring games than any one console.

CaseyWegner

2 bad its mostly in 2 genres that console gamers dont care about . And the ps3 has still won more GOTYS then the pc this generation.

what's point in mentioning goty? it's two games. :|

best to leave your personal opinion out of this.

Its SW if you dont like it dont comment. GOTY are the best games that year those dont matter now?

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#66 TheSterls
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[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Nyuuuu"] 2 games doesn't equal a better library. The PC has both quality AND quantity. Just look at the damn spreadsheet. Since when did having less highly rated games equal better? :?Nyuuuu

If you take out MMO and RTS and the pc libary is crippled. If you are not a fan of ether of those genres then the pc has by far the worst library

So we have to LIMIT the PCs library to prove the consoles are superior? :lol: I think that you've just finished this thread. What if I don't like sports games and fighting games?

Then dont game on a console its very simple, I like Fighting and Action Adventure and the Ps3 by itself romps the pc in both those genres.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

2 bad its mostly in 2 genres that console gamers dont care about . And the ps3 has still won more GOTYS then the pc this generation.

TheSterls

what's point in mentioning goty? it's two games. :|

best to leave your personal opinion out of this.

Its SW if you dont like it dont comment. GOTY are the best GOTY thsoe dont matter now ? :|

why are they worth anything more than short term bragging rights? they're still just two games. how is that supposed to mean anything against a cumulative library?

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[QUOTE="Nyuuuu"][QUOTE="TheSterls"]

If you take out MMO and RTS and the pc libary is crippled. If you are not a fan of ether of those genres then the pc has by far the worst library

TheSterls

So we have to LIMIT the PCs library to prove the consoles are superior? :lol: I think that you've just finished this thread. What if I don't like sports games and fighting games?

Then dont game on a console its very simple, I like Fighting and Action Adventure and the Ps3 by itself romps the pc in both those genres.

-edit- THATS YOUR PREFERENCES. The spreadsheet clearly states that the PC has more higher scoring games then the consoles. :roll: Argue with facts, not opinions.
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beating the dead horse goes both ways there, pal...
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[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

But the Ps3 won goty last2 years in a row so if they keep winning the big prize not to mention they have a slew of AA and AAA titles that are ps3/360 that cant even be played on pc.

CaseyWegner

the pc still has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined and more overall high scoring games than any one console.

Not to mention PC has higher standards. "If our standard of comparison for PC games was "the console version," the PC version would get a higher score than the others over 90% of the time." Kevin V. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27373812&page=26

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

But the Ps3 won goty last2 years in a row so if they keep winning the big prize not to mention they have a slew of AA and AAA titles that are ps3/360 that cant even be played on pc.

NVIDIATI

the pc still has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined and more overall high scoring games than any one console.

Not to mention PC has higher standards. "If our standard of comparison for PC games was "the console version," the PC version would get a higher score than the others over 90% of the time." Kevin V. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27373812&page=26

Thats because most those multipalts are genres that favor the pc. You think the pc has higher standardsin fighting and action adventure games lmao?

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#72 TheSterls
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[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Nyuuuu"] So we have to LIMIT the PCs library to prove the consoles are superior? :lol: I think that you've just finished this thread. What if I don't like sports games and fighting games? Nyuuuu

Then dont game on a console its very simple, I like Fighting and Action Adventure and the Ps3 by itself romps the pc in both those genres.

-edit- THATS YOUR PREFERENCES. The spreadsheet clearly states that the PC has more higher scoring games then the consoles. :roll: Argue with facts, not opinions.

Doesnt have nigher rated fighting , sports are action adventure games though does it?And no thats not just my prefrance thats nearly every consoel gamers prefrence .

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[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

the pc still has more high scoring exclusives than all three consoles combined and more overall high scoring games than any one console.

TheSterls

Not to mention PC has higher standards. "If our standard of comparison for PC games was "the console version," the PC version would get a higher score than the others over 90% of the time." Kevin V. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27373812&page=26

Thats because most those multipalts are genres that favor the pc. You think the pc has higher standardsin fighting and action adventure games lmao?

Street Fighter 4 was improved on PC. Controls are more like an arcade ****layout, and visually was more impressive. JC2 is DX10 only so....a big fat **** yes on a higher standard.

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[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

what's point in mentioning goty? it's two games. :|

best to leave your personal opinion out of this.

CaseyWegner

Its SW if you dont like it dont comment. GOTY are the best GOTY thsoe dont matter now ? :|

why are they worth anything more than short term bragging rights? they're still just two games. how is that supposed to mean anything against a cumulative library?

Because they provided the best expereince that year vs all games. You have a cumaltive library of nearly 100 quality gams on all platforms so theres extra good ones do matter and if the pc won GOTY you wouldnt hear the end of it.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Its SW if you dont like it dont comment. GOTY are the best GOTY thsoe dont matter now ? :|

TheSterls

why are they worth anything more than short term bragging rights? they're still just two games. how is that supposed to mean anything against a cumulative library?

Because they provided the best expereince that year vs all games. You have a cumaltive library of nearly 100 quality gams on all platforms so theres extra good ones do matter and if the pc won GOTY you wouldnt hear the end of it.

Gamespot didn't give Demon Soul's GOTY because it provided the best experience that year. They gave it GOTY because it provided something new and different on consoles.

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[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] Not to mention PC has higher standards. "If our standard of comparison for PC games was "the console version," the PC version would get a higher score than the others over 90% of the time." Kevin V. http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27373812&page=26

ChubbyGuy40

Thats because most those multipalts are genres that favor the pc. You think the pc has higher standardsin fighting and action adventure games lmao?

Street Fighter 4 was improved on PC. Controls are more like an arcade ****layout, and visually was more impressive. JC2 is DX10 only so....a big fat **** yes on a higher standard.

JC2 is a sandbox action adnvture. It pails in hack and slash genre such as Bayonetta , GOW 3 etc etc. Controls are more like an arcade? LMAO what? You can buy a aracde stick on the PS3 and get identical to the arcade settings not to mentiont he visuall diffrence is yet again only image quality settings and the consoles have SSF4 wich is far better then the vanilla pc version of SF4 not to mention thats the only AAA or AA fighting game you have gottent this generation.

Then theres the online community for SF4 sucked horribly compard to its console counterparts . Lmao you areally argue the pc has higher standards in fighting games lmao really? How is Tekken 6, SC4 , DOA and pretty much every other major fighting game on the pc? Oh wait you dont even get it.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Its SW if you dont like it dont comment. GOTY are the best GOTY thsoe dont matter now ? :|

TheSterls

why are they worth anything more than short term bragging rights? they're still just two games. how is that supposed to mean anything against a cumulative library?

Because they provided the best expereince that year vs all games. You have a cumaltive library of nearly 100 quality gams on all platforms so theres extra good ones do matter and if the pc won GOTY you wouldnt hear the end of it.

yes. that...year. it's why goty is only good for short term bragging rights. what is "extra good" supposed to mean? it doesn't give the games magical superiority and some kind of boost. a better game could come out but not win goty. is the previous goty supposed to somehow be better just because it won and the next one didn't? :|

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#78 TheSterls
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[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

why are they worth anything more than short term bragging rights? they're still just two games. how is that supposed to mean anything against a cumulative library?

CaseyWegner

Because they provided the best expereince that year vs all games. You have a cumaltive library of nearly 100 quality gams on all platforms so theres extra good ones do matter and if the pc won GOTY you wouldnt hear the end of it.

yes. that...year. it's why goty is only good for short term bragging rights. what is "extra good" supposed to mean? it doesn't give the games magical superiority and some kind of boost. a better game could come out but not win goty. is the previous goty supposed to somehow be better just because it won and the next one didn't? :|

The games that are beyond good the ones that win top honors. A better game wont win GOTY? Well we all have our opionions but standards go up every year. I think consoles win goty more becaue they are providing a more diverse experience.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Because they provided the best expereince that year vs all games. You have a cumaltive library of nearly 100 quality gams on all platforms so theres extra good ones do matter and if the pc won GOTY you wouldnt hear the end of it.

TheSterls

yes. that...year. it's why goty is only good for short term bragging rights. what is "extra good" supposed to mean? it doesn't give the games magical superiority and some kind of boost. a better game could come out but not win goty. is the previous goty supposed to somehow be better just because it won and the next one didn't? :|

The games that are beyond good the ones that win top honors. A better game wont win GOTY? Well we all have our opionions but standards go up every year. I think consoles win goty more becaue they are providing a more diverse experience.

games don't become better than they already were just becaue they went on to later win goty. what do you mean we all have our opinions? i never gave mine. answer the question. is a later or earlier non-goty (but better) game inferior to a goty game just because it didn't win?

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#80 TheSterls
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[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

yes. that...year. it's why goty is only good for short term bragging rights. what is "extra good" supposed to mean? it doesn't give the games magical superiority and some kind of boost. a better game could come out but not win goty. is the previous goty supposed to somehow be better just because it won and the next one didn't? :|

CaseyWegner

The games that are beyond good the ones that win top honors. A better game wont win GOTY? Well we all have our opionions but standards go up every year. I think consoles win goty more becaue they are providing a more diverse experience.

games don't become better than they already were just becaue they went on to later win goty. what do you mean we all have our opinions? i never gave mine. answer the question. is a later or earlier non-goty (but better) game inferior to a goty game just because it didn't win?

By the rating system yes it is. If you go by personal opionions I could give a 8.0 GOTY but how would you call a non goty game a better game ? Thats what goty is about its the competition of the best games that year.

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#81 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

The games that are beyond good the ones that win top honors. A better game wont win GOTY? Well we all have our opionions but standards go up every year. I think consoles win goty more becaue they are providing a more diverse experience.

TheSterls

games don't become better than they already were just becaue they went on to later win goty. what do you mean we all have our opinions? i never gave mine. answer the question. is a later or earlier non-goty (but better) game inferior to a goty game just because it didn't win?

By the rating system yes it is. If you go by personal opionions I could give a 8.0 GOTY but how would you call a non goty game a better game ? Thats what goty is about its the competition of the best games that year.

again...that year. i'm not talking about the same year. what's the consusion here? :|

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#82 TheSterls
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[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

games don't become better than they already were just becaue they went on to later win goty. what do you mean we all have our opinions? i never gave mine. answer the question. is a later or earlier non-goty (but better) game inferior to a goty game just because it didn't win?

CaseyWegner

By the rating system yes it is. If you go by personal opionions I could give a 8.0 GOTY but how would you call a non goty game a better game ? Thats what goty is about its the competition of the best games that year.

again...that year. i'm not talking about the same year. what's the consusion here? :|

Yes it is on this website it would be inferior .

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#83 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

By the rating system yes it is. If you go by personal opionions I could give a 8.0 GOTY but how would you call a non goty game a better game ? Thats what goty is about its the competition of the best games that year.

TheSterls

again...that year. i'm not talking about the same year. what's the consusion here? :|

Yes it is on this website it would be inferior .

why is that? :|

how does winning goty eternally brand a game as better than any non-goty game before or ever to come after it?

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#84 TheSterls
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[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

again...that year. i'm not talking about the same year. what's the consusion here? :|

CaseyWegner

Yes it is on this website it would be inferior .

why is that? :|

how does winning goty eternally brand a game as better than any non-goty game before or ever to come after it?

No it brands it as the best game that year. MGS4 would be the best game in 2008 , Demon souls the bets game of 2009 . I didnt mean that would make mgs4 better then every non goty EVER. But does allow each platform to compete each year for the best of the best and if one platform wins over and over again that says something.

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#85 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Yes it is on this website it would be inferior .

TheSterls

why is that? :|

how does winning goty eternally brand a game as better than any non-goty game before or ever to come after it?

No it brands it as the best game that year. MGS4 would be the best game in 2008 , Demon souls the bets game of 2009 . I didnt mean that would make mgs4 better then every non goty EVER. But does allow each platform to compete each year for the best of the best and if one platform wins over and over again that says something.

it means it had the SINGLE best game for that ONE year. how is that supposed to mean anything when comparing libraries? do you think one goty is better than several high scoring games that were only slightly inferior? :|

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There are also more PC threads, so PC is doing better than consoles by that as well.