The State of Playstation 3 Muitiplatforms

[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="MushroomWig"] Well that's my problem, I don't own a 360, I only own a PS3. I'm just confused why I have to pay the same for something that's considered worse.MushroomWig

Wow I guess you have two identical TV's and both consoles sitting next to each other and then go buy the same game on both and then test them to see which is better.... Your just a little too involved in watching every video and reading every post or article describing these issues... I recommend you stop doing this and just buy the damn game.... Not sitting going "Oh the crack in this wall in corner is more detailed on the xbox!!".... Thats silly if you do this then you'll always find problems... If I buy a new car i do not bring an microscope to see deep into the paint for microscopic scratches to complain about, i just take it for granted that there are always going to be small insignifancies in everything we do or buy....

To be honest guys, I'm getting really sick of paying the same price for a PS3 version of a multiplatform title and getting an inferior version.

Mafia 2 is the latest example of a shoddy port, the PS3 has been out for nearly 4 years and games are still being treated like this? It's ridiculous, but is it Sonys fault or is it the devolopers fault?

Also, I want a list, an unbiased list of all the PS3 multiplatform games that look exactly the same or better than the 360 version.

MushroomWig

If this is how you feel about inferiority between versions of games like Mafia 2, both the console versions should be significantly cheaper than the significantly better PC version in order to appease you.

The difference is so vast that you can actually tell that the console versions suck without playing them side by side.

I mean, it must really grind your gears that they both seem so crappy in comparison yet are actually more expensive.

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]And like you said, we don't live in an ideal world. If sony couldn't see that they have no one to blame but themselves. They should have tried and seduced third party devs as much as they could when building the PS3, they didn't, now they are suffering the consequences.

kuu2

Like I said though, there are examples of great looking 1st party titles, there are examples of great looking 3rd party titles, and there are tons of examples of multiplat games looking identical. It all comes down to the talent, time, and money of the individual developer/publisher, not Sony

Or the people who own both consoles and don't buy multi plats on Sony's platform because their are noticable differences. So much so that some reviewers have given the Sony platform a lower score.

Like Dragon Age?

To be honest guys, I'm getting really sick of paying the same price for a PS3 version of a multiplatform title and getting an inferior version.

Mafia 2 is the latest example of a shoddy port, the PS3 has been out for nearly 4 years and games are still being treated like this? It's ridiculous, but is it Sonys fault or is it the devolopers fault?

Also, I want a list, an unbiased list of all the PS3 multiplatform games that look exactly the same or better than the 360 version.

[QUOTE="MushroomWig"]

To be honest guys, I'm getting really sick of paying the same price for a PS3 version of a multiplatform title and getting an inferior version.

Mafia 2 is the latest example of a shoddy port, the PS3 has been out for nearly 4 years and games are still being treated like this? It's ridiculous, but is it Sonys fault or is it the devolopers fault?

Also, I want a list, an unbiased list of all the PS3 multiplatform games that look exactly the same or better than the 360 version.

Filthybastrd

If this is how you feel about inferiority between versions of games like Mafia 2, both the console versions should be significantly cheaper than the significantly better PC version in order to appease you.

The difference is so vast that you can actually tell that the console versions suck without playing them side by side.

I mean, it must really grind your gears that they both seem so crappy in comparison yet are actually more expensive.

why when it's about compairing multiplats it's devs fault that these games don't look as xbox games on PS3 but when it's about exclusives it's xbox's fault?I mean the engine they use is not important?or the way they program games is not important?here is a question.if games like gears or battlefeild were using full power of 360 then how much power red dead redemption used?and now people see and talk about games like crysis 2 or rage.but anyway I have to agree that I never expeted xbox 360's best looking games to be multiplatform .it's really anoying.

Fact. The difference between PS3's excluisve games like UC2, KZ2, Heavy Rain, GT5, GoW III etc are MUCH better looking then anything on the 360 but 360 fans claim the difference is so small it doesn't matter. The difference between multipalts is in fact so small you need special tech and websites dedicated to comparing them just to spot the missing pixel here and there, but THAT all of a sudden is a huge deal. Hmmmm.

Gamtrix

I like it how you accuse lemmings of something but then you end up doing the exactly same thing you accuse them on the same post

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]And like you said, we don't live in an ideal world. If sony couldn't see that they have no one to blame but themselves. They should have tried and seduced third party devs as much as they could when building the PS3, they didn't, now they are suffering the consequences.

ohthemanatee

Like I said though, there are examples of great looking 1st party titles, there are examples of great looking 3rd party titles, and there are tons of examples of multiplat games looking identical. It all comes down to the talent, time, and money of the individual developer/publisher, not Sony

and yes, it is sony's fault. A console that was launched a year later then the competition and does not have superior multiplats? this was unheard of before.There is no else to blame but sony

Your logic is flawed as it bases the year of release of the PS3 with the current standing in technology. Sony did not build the PS3 in 2006 and released it then. Sony designed the PS3 and had an original release date in 2005 with the XBox360 but had to push it back due to supply constraints (the only time it was actually true). So you can see, in 2005 the PS3 was already ready for release so I highly doubt Sony would take the time to redesign the PS3 in 2006.

There are a lot of reasons why 360 outshines the PS3 when it comes to multiplats. The 360's architecture is more normal, and more resembles a PC thus it is easier to create multiplatform games.

360's CPU is a triple core just like a triple core CPU in a computer. Where is PS3's is 1 Core and multiple SPEs. It's a lot easier to use Core's for performance than it is SPE's.

360's GPU is actually faster than PS3's even though it came out a year earlier. 360's gpu also has some tricks up it's sleave like unified shaders, and 10mb of EDRAM which allows for easy AA.

Lastly, the 360's ram is shared which makes it easier for Devs. Devs can choose how much ram to allot between the System and the GPU, for 512mb total. PS3's is 256 + 256, which is just as much but not shared, but it does have faster memory.

Sure, if you can use all of the SPE's like 1st party Sony devs do you will have a beautiful game. When it comes to multiplatform games 360 games usually come out the winner due to the above reasons.

Your logic is flawed as it bases the year of release of the PS3 with the current standing in technology. Sony did not build the PS3 in 2006 and released it then. Sony designed the PS3 and had an original release date in 2005 with the XBox360 but had to push it back due to supply constraints (the only time it was actually true). So you can see, in 2005 the PS3 was already ready for release so I highly doubt Sony would take the time to redesign the PS3 in 2006.

OneLazyAsian

Then wouldn't that mean that once again: It's sony's fault?

For a different reason that I mentioned yes, but It still is sony's fault

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

Fact. The difference between PS3's excluisve games like UC2, KZ2, Heavy Rain, GT5, GoW III etc are MUCH better looking then anything on the 360 but 360 fans claim the difference is so small it doesn't matter. The difference between multipalts is in fact so small you need special tech and websites dedicated to comparing them just to spot the missing pixel here and there, but THAT all of a sudden is a huge deal. Hmmmm.

ohthemanatee

I like it how you accuse lemmings of something but then you end up doing the exactly same thing you accuse them on the same post

As the PS3 is My only current console this gen...

I dont care. The games by themself are the same: story, gameplay & feature wise.

But You know, their is one advantage the PS3 multiplats have over the competition...

Blu-Ray Baby! :)

More reliable disc = longer life.

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]And like you said, we don't live in an ideal world. If sony couldn't see that they have no one to blame but themselves. They should have tried and seduced third party devs as much as they could when building the PS3, they didn't, now they are suffering the consequences.

kuu2

Like I said though, there are examples of great looking 1st party titles, there are examples of great looking 3rd party titles, and there are tons of examples of multiplat games looking identical. It all comes down to the talent, time, and money of the individual developer/publisher, not Sony

Or the people who own both consoles and don't buy multi plats on Sony's platform because their are noticable differences. So much so that some reviewers have given the Sony platform a lower score.

Yea,but it isint as constant as you would think. Most differences arent worth a score change or as notciable as fanboys tend to think. Im not saying that bayonetta type situations dont exist,but which ever fanboy gets the very very slightly "better" version they tend to go overboard just cause they have some ammo.

Most of the time they are identical. (Bayonetta, Orange Box, these are exceptions) But for the most part they are notall that different

Blaze-Agent

[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

Fact. The difference between PS3's excluisve games like UC2, KZ2, Heavy Rain, GT5, GoW III etc are MUCH better looking then anything on the 360 but 360 fans claim the difference is so small it doesn't matter. The difference between multipalts is in fact so small you need special tech and websites dedicated to comparing them just to spot the missing pixel here and there, but THAT all of a sudden is a huge deal. Hmmmm.

Gamtrix

I like it how you accuse lemmings of something but then you end up doing the exactly same thing you accuse them on the same post

no i'm not.

I think the differences in multiplats are minimal (the only time I actually notice something is when the PS3 version doesn't have AA or has a lower AA)

I also think that the differences between exclusives are also minimal

[QUOTE="OneLazyAsian"]

Your logic is flawed as it bases the year of release of the PS3 with the current standing in technology. Sony did not build the PS3 in 2006 and released it then. Sony designed the PS3 and had an original release date in 2005 with the XBox360 but had to push it back due to supply constraints (the only time it was actually true). So you can see, in 2005 the PS3 was already ready for release so I highly doubt Sony would take the time to redesign the PS3 in 2006.

ohthemanatee

Then wouldn't that mean that once again: It's sony's fault?

For a different reason that I mentioned yes, but It still is sony's fault

I say it's half and half. Those that usually blame others are covering up for their short comings.

the only game I can think of that looks better on the PS3 is Tekken 6

although it looks better it does have longer loadings then the 360 version though

I also know that Blazblue is equal on both systems

anyway if you want the entire list then go here

ohthemanatee

really? The 360 version is HD the ps3 version isn't.

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"][QUOTE="ohthemanatee"]

I like it how you accuse lemmings of something but then you end up doing the exactly same thing you accuse them on the same post

ohthemanatee

no i'm not.

I think the differences in multiplats are minimal (the only time I actually notice something is when the PS3 version doesn't have AA or has a lower AA)

I also think that the differences between exclusives are also minimal

Indeed. Also at this point there are multiplats like RDR that look as good as any PS3´s exclusive.

Obviously some hardcore fans will never accept that. They prefer to claim that 360 cant run this or that PS3 exclusive. It´s the easiest way to claim ownage since there is no 360 version to compare with ;)

On topic, the state of PS3 multiplatforms is the same it was in 06, 07, 08 or 09. Most look and perform better on 360 and occasionally its the other way arround.

[QUOTE="Gamtrix"]

Fact. The difference between PS3's excluisve games like UC2, KZ2, Heavy Rain, GT5, GoW III etc are MUCH better looking then anything on the 360 but 360 fans claim the difference is so small it doesn't matter. The difference between multipalts is in fact so small you need special tech and websites dedicated to comparing them just to spot the missing pixel here and there, but THAT all of a sudden is a huge deal. Hmmmm.

chicagodon

who is insecure?

Probably the ones making long posts listing exclusives, or at least thats what I'd guess.

On topic, the state of PS3 multiplatforms is the same it was in 06, 07, 08 or 09. Most look and perform better on 360 and occasionally its the other way arround.

PAL360

Actually no its not. In the begging there was more bayonetta situations now and days that situation isint as common. Its not night and day as it was in the past. Most of the stuff you cant see with a naked eye unless you look really really close or have the equipment to tell the difference.

okay, for one, unless you have a 360 and a ps3 running right next to each other with the same game, you will not notice a difference. two, unless you go out of your way and look at every texture and polygon you will not notice or care while your playing the game in action.

Chris_Williams

this basicly, first post nailed it

The PS3 was launched a year after the competition, it's games should look better then the competition regardless of thm being exclusive or not. And that is why sony failed

ohthemanatee

Do you blame the car manufacturer when a person crashes a car because they were texting and driving? They made the hardware, shouldn't they have foresaw that someone wasn't going to use that hardware the right way?

sorry no the ps3 got the best versions of all multiplats because of bluray. bluray is scratch proof so games will last forever and o dont forget psn is free so when you buy the game with online you get the full version. the 360 dont got the full version if youre not paying for xboxlive

sorry no the ps3 got the best versions of all multiplats because of bluray. bluray is scratch proof so games will last forever and o dont forget psn is free so when you buy the game with online you get the full version. the 360 dont got the full version if youre not paying for xboxlive

_SWAG_

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

On topic, the state of PS3 multiplatforms is the same it was in 06, 07, 08 or 09. Most look and perform better on 360 and occasionally its the other way arround.

finalfantasy94

Actually no its not. In the begging there was more bayonetta situations now and days that situation isint as common. Its not night and day as it was in the past. Most of the stuff you cant see with a naked eye unless you look really really close or have the equipment to tell the difference.

EDIT: basically, in hopes of gaining market traction for their propriety cell and blu ray tech sony jammed them unnecessarily into the ps3... it paid off with the blu ray, but not for the cell. They tried to use PS3 gamers to further their market presence... im guessing they were hoping one day their cell tech would take off and become the standard... now they are realizing its a flop.

markinthedark

Define "the standard". If you're somehow suggesting that Sony (Sony, Toshiba, and IBM actually) were under the impression that Cell architecture was going to replace x86 microprocessors, you're out of your gourd and talking out of something else that I won't name here.

[QUOTE="hexashadow13"][QUOTE="CuteCakes"]Heavy Rain (Journey to Uncanny Calley) doesn't look that good. The tearing is really distracting too. Don't know why people are bringing up exclusives anyway. The state of Multiplats on the PS3 is nothing short of embarrassing.CuteCakes

I've played plenty of great PS3 multiplats.

ugh i own all 3, consoles,

theres a way to avoid this

its simple

you buy the version of the game for the console you want , and if you feel you need more ps3 games buy it for ps3 then ,

i buy doubles of some of my games because i want to ,

not because im forced to same applies to you

no one is forcing you to buy a ps3 version of a game you have for 360 its ur choice

me i just buy most of my games for my 360 and wii , with odd balls and sony exclusives for ps3, because the fact that , i may find that version cheaper

and it doesnt scratch on ps3,

and the games i really enjoy i buy more versions of

so i can enjoy them some more

ive never stayed to one console past snes nes gen anyway

sorry no the ps3 got the best versions of all multiplats because of bluray. bluray is scratch proof so games will last forever and o dont forget psn is free so when you buy the game with online you get the full version. the 360 dont got the full version if youre not paying for xboxlive

[QUOTE="CuteCakes"][QUOTE="_SWAG_"] Just like the state of 360 exclusives. mariokart64fan

I've played plenty of great PS3 multiplats.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

On topic, the state of PS3 multiplatforms is the same it was in 06, 07, 08 or 09. Most look and perform better on 360 and occasionally its the other way arround.

CuteCakes

Actually no its not. In the begging there was more bayonetta situations now and days that situation isint as common. Its not night and day as it was in the past. Most of the stuff you cant see with a naked eye unless you look really really close or have the equipment to tell the difference.

I see no clear difference between Resonance of Fate and Just Cause 2. Maybe I have the wrong type of glasses on...

sorry no the ps3 got the best versions of all multiplats because of bluray. bluray is scratch proof so games will last forever and o dont forget psn is free so when you buy the game with online you get the full version. the 360 dont got the full version if youre not paying for xboxlive

360's CPU is a triple core just like a triple core CPU in a computer.

CPM_basic

So much of your post is completely wrong on the technology in the two consoles that I won't even bother to take the time addressing it (your mention about the GPU is about the ONLY correct thing and it's overstated). But this? This is frickin' hilarious. The CPU in Xbox 360 isn't at all like the ones in desktop PCs. For one thing it uses PowerPC architecture instead of x86 architecture, for another they're in-order-processing only which no desktop CPU in the last decade or longer has been.

In fact, the processing cores in the Xbox 360 are far more similar to the PowerPC core in the PS3 than any CPU you'd find in a desktop PC and that includes the PowerPC Macs.

Please at least make SOME attempt to learn SOMETHING about what you're speaking before you go off and spout ignorance.

Meh, I haven't played many multiplats, but I chaven't noticed a quality issue on the PS3 in general.

It's always my system of choice for a multiplat.

sorry no the ps3 got the best versions of all multiplats because of bluray. bluray is scratch proof so games will last forever and o dont forget psn is free so when you buy the game with online you get the full version. the 360 dont got the full version if youre not paying for xboxlive

_SWAG_

Load times are longer, and the game can be installed on the 360 HDD, essentially letting it last forever, too.

The game isn't automatically better just because the disc is scratch resistent :|

Load times are longer, and the game can be installed on the 360 HDD, essentially letting it last forever, too.

BuryMe

I'll agree with the first part. The second part is true if devs don't do things correctly and the third is entirely wrong. There are games I have for the PS1 that were released right around its launch and still work perfectly. HDDs typically don't last that long, much less "forever". That being said, the risk of scratches is typically overblown. Still a nice thing to have though.

Hm, I never noticed, I never felt like I was playing an inferior version when I enjoyed all the multiplatform games I bought this gen, most of the differences today in mutliplats are usually negligible except for exceptions like Bayonetta.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

On topic, the state of PS3 multiplatforms is the same it was in 06, 07, 08 or 09. Most look and perform better on 360 and occasionally its the other way arround.

CuteCakes

Actually no its not. In the begging there was more bayonetta situations now and days that situation isint as common. Its not night and day as it was in the past. Most of the stuff you cant see with a naked eye unless you look really really close or have the equipment to tell the difference.

Just cause 2 looks the same.ROF same. RDR besides for missing some grass in some areas game doesint really look any different. I guess if you look really really hard and zoom then yea I guess. Also whats these "whole lot of games"most of thegames I got this year multiplat wise looks pretty much the same on 360.Its also kinda hard to take anything you say in weight since well your a ps3 basher. Thats what you mainly do.

Would you be sick of paying the same price for the 360 version of a game that doesn't include the online portion?

Get over it.