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[QUOTE="Runningflame570"]Dead industry my foot..it was the console market and it was in the US only.OceanLeet
Dead industry my foot..it was the console market and it was in the US only.Runningflame570
[QUOTE="Runningflame570"]Dead industry my foot..it was the console market and it was in the US only.-DarthVader-
[QUOTE="Runningflame570"]Dead industry my foot..it was the console market and it was in the US only.-DarthVader-
It's not ruining the industry... it's just not adding anything much to it or increasing the quality of games in any fashion. As for your argument, for those of us that DO remember the introduction of the NES... the graphics were definitely a part of our fascination. Before the NES we never had a home system that had games that looked so 'good'. It wasn't about looking real, it was about artwork... pretty much the same as the graphics comparisons of today.
Either way, plenty will enjoy the Wii... it just won't be the only console for anyone b/c no one really thinks of it as a next gen console.
[QUOTE="OceanLeet"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"]Dead industry my foot..it was the console market and it was in the US only.Runningflame570
[QUOTE="-DarthVader-"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"]Dead industry my foot..it was the console market and it was in the US only.Panzer_Zwei
[QUOTE="-DarthVader-"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"]Dead industry my foot..it was the console market and it was in the US only.Panzer_Zwei
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="-DarthVader-"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"]Dead industry my foot..it was the console market and it was in the US only.-DarthVader-
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="-DarthVader-"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"]Dead industry my foot..it was the console market and it was in the US only.RKFS
When i first got my nes it was like "oh my god its so real"Yep..
Mario looked like a person not a block or triangle
Random__Guy
Hermit...Cough....Cough...!AgentA-Mi6
[QUOTE="OceanLeet"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"]Dead industry my foot..it was the console market and it was in the US only.Runningflame570
First of all, there was a huge market failure. I don't what you want to believe or how you want to view wikipedia, it happened. Second the crash didn't destroy the market, the market caused the crash. Too many companies brought out too much crap and consumers got fed up with it. Nintendo revitalized the video game industry.Â
However, in response to the original poster. NES had amazing graphics for the time, don't kid yourself. In today standards they are simple, but in 1986 those were amazing compared to the 5200, colecovision, intellivision and the such. That's not why people bought the NES though. Nintendo was very clever to market it as a entertainment system and not a video game console or a gaming computer. Secondly, they required the game to be approved by Nintendo. The great Nintendo seal of approval you see on NES game boxes. This avoided all the cheap poorly made games that flooded the market and caused the crash.Â
So Nintendo did many things right to succeed. But to say it had bad graphics is a little short-sighted.
And gave security to third party that their games wouldn't be bastardized. Thus, encouraging more developing.Their practices were actually what did the work, not their games.Secondly, they required the game to be approved by Nintendo. The great Nintendo seal of approval you see on NES game boxes. This avoided all the cheap poorly made games that flooded the market and caused the crash.
billbradsky
[QUOTE="Runningflame570"][QUOTE="OceanLeet"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"]Dead industry my foot..it was the console market and it was in the US only.billbradsky
First of all, there was a huge market failure. I don't what you want to believe or how you want to view wikipedia, it happened. Second the crash didn't destroy the market, the market caused the crash. Too many companies brought out too much crap and consumers got fed up with it. Nintendo revitalized the video game industry.
However, in response to the original poster. NES had amazing graphics for the time, don't kid yourself. In today standards they are simple, but in 1986 those were amazing compared to the 5200, colecovision, intellivision and the such. That's not why people bought the NES though. Nintendo was very clever to market it as a entertainment system and not a video game console or a gaming computer. Secondly, they required the game to be approved by Nintendo. The great Nintendo seal of approval you see on NES game boxes. This avoided all the cheap poorly made games that flooded the market and caused the crash.
So Nintendo did many things right to succeed. But to say it had bad graphics is a little short-sighted.
Exactly, they limited the vast majority of developers (some early developers like Konami seemed exempt) to two games a year and had a clause mandating exclusivity of a title for it to appear on Famicom/NES. Those were monopolistic practices and they rightly got sued over it..the problem is the penalty they paid ($5 coupons on games for the system) meaning they ended up making even MORE money.
Although they took their grip of third party too far, and pretty much most developers ended up at odds with them.
Panzer_Zwei
And, just for the record, the NES was weaker than the Sega Master System, and by a good amount too.Hoffgod
And, just for the record, the NES was weaker than the Sega Master System, and by a good amount too.HoffgodYet Nintendo had a third party monopoly at the time, preventing them for developing for the system. Just another of Nintendo's disloyal competition. When the PC-Engine came out, it pretty much buried the NES in Japan though.
And, just for the record, the NES was weaker than the Sega Master System, and by a good amount too.Hoffgod
[QUOTE="billbradsky"]And gave security to third party that their games wouldn't be bastardized. Thus, encouraging more developing.Their practices were actually what did the work, not their games.Secondly, they required the game to be approved by Nintendo. The great Nintendo seal of approval you see on NES game boxes. This avoided all the cheap poorly made games that flooded the market and caused the crash.
Panzer_Zwei
Sega Master System yeah...the problem was the aforementioned monopolistic practices of Nintendo, the fact it came out a couple of years later, and the lack of advertising for the system in comparison to NES. Lots of people just didn't know it existed which is one of the reasons NES ended up with above 90% marketshare that gen.Runningflame570True. I didn't even know it existed until last year. [QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]Yet Nintendo had a third party monopoly at the time, preventing them for developing for the system. Just another of Nintendo's disloyal competition. When the PC-Engine came out, it pretty much buried the NES in Japan though. True. If memory serves, NoJ had less restrive policies than NoA, making it more vunerable to competition. Also, the NES never had the total marketshare in Japan that it did in NA. Plus, Sega of America hadn't really gotten its act together yet. It wouldn't pose a real threat to Nintendo until around 1990 and 1991.
I always thought the built in game was a cool ideaRandom__GuyTrue. I own a Master System II (Picked it up last year for $8) and having Alex Kidd built in is awesome.
The Genesis 3 was the worst version of the console though.Panzer_ZweiIts the most valuable now though...I really liked Model 2, it was smaller and more sleek than the other models but not so tiny as Genesis 3 (seriously..those controllers were unbearably tiny). You should seriously join retro wars..you are the SHMUP Dictionary after all.
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]The Genesis 3 was the worst version of the console though.Runningflame570Its the most valuable now though...I really liked Model 2, it was smaller and more sleek than the other models but not so tiny as Genesis 3 (seriously..those controllers were unbearably tiny). You should seriously join retro wars..you are the SHMUP Dictionary after all.You can't attach the SEGA CD to that model.
[QUOTE="Runningflame570"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]The Genesis 3 was the worst version of the console though.Panzer_ZweiIts the most valuable now though...I really liked Model 2, it was smaller and more sleek than the other models but not so tiny as Genesis 3 (seriously..those controllers were unbearably tiny). You should seriously join retro wars..you are the SHMUP Dictionary after all.You can't attach the SEGA CD to that model.
You can't attach the SEGA CD to that model.That is kind of not a surprise to me. Sega CD was discontinued years before they released it and Sega didn't even manufacture it..they gave another company the rights to do so.
Panzer_Zwei
i wonder why you cant say classics, o well...i didnt bother reading all of your post but im goin to assume it was nice about nintendo so if thats the case i agree.QanioLove your gif of ippo doing the dempsy roll sweet.
[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"][QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]The Genesis 3 was the worst version of the console though.HoffgodIts the most valuable now though...I really liked Model 2, it was smaller and more sleek than the other models but not so tiny as Genesis 3 (seriously..those controllers were unbearably tiny). You should seriously join retro wars..you are the SHMUP Dictionary after all.You can't attach the SEGA CD to that model.
[QUOTE="-DarthVader-"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"]Dead industry my foot..it was the console market and it was in the US only.Runningflame570
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