The Truth About PS3 Sales

With all these futile and annoying fanboy damage control threads, it's time to explain why the PS3 is failing in sales.

Now, the PS1 and PS2 are probally some the greatest consoles of all time. They are highly regarded by millions. The PS2 has reached about 150 million sales worldwide. The original Xbox sold what, less than 30 million in sales worldwide?

The PS2 completely dominated, and reaching 150 million in sales is outstanding. The XBOX reached less than 30 million.

The XBOX360 has reached around 40 million in sales. An increase in sales. That's an accomplishment.

Now to the PS3. The PS3 has reached around 35 million in sales worldwide. Now this is where the fail comes in. Explain to me, how can a console(PS2) sell 150 million, and then in the next gen, The PS3 only reaches 35 million. That is an incredible drop in sales. The freaking PS2 reaches 150 million sales, and The PS3 reaches a mere 35 million??!

The PS3 is the predecessor of a console that had 150 million in sales, gets dominated for four years in the current gen, and is just now starting to catch up?? And people are bragging about this? Why are these 150 million PS2 owners not buying the PS3? People. This is not an accomplishment.. By the look of the previous sales, the PS3 should have been doing good in the start, andit'sjust starting to catch up after being dominated for over four years. The PS3 should have been dominating from the start, but it has been in dead last for four years, and finally after getting a severe price-cut it's now only starting to catch up? That's a joke.

The XBOX360 reaches a gain in sales from last gen, while Playstation goes from 150 million to 35 million. I like all consoles, but to see these PS3 fanboys brag about numbers by trying to use Vcharts is just sad. Don't pay any attention to that nonsense. Being the predecessor of a console that sold 150 million to being dead last to finally catching up after four years IS NOT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER. Sony is most likely embarrassed by these numbers, and yet people are trying to brag about them. Sorry for the long post, but I'm just trying to show why these damage control threads will not work.

Misleading thread........there s no truth here folks just some guy's observation of NA market

This gen isn't over?

"Truth" debunked.

Misleading thread........there s no truth here folks just some guy's observation of NA market

Zaibach

How about... one generation's market share doesn't predicate the successive generation's market share? And no one should expect it to.

This gen isn't over?

"Truth" debunked.

Gxgear

I know its not over? Even if the PS3 catches up, so what?

And this is the truth. Not observatoins but facts.

And this is the truth. Not observatoins but facts.

yodaddyninja

Usually when people claim to be speaking the truth or spouting fact, it's anything but.

Also being an observation and being a fact are not mutually exclusive, and the word is "successor."

Explain to me, how can a console(PS2) sell 150 million, and then in the next gen, The PS3 only reaches 35 million.

yodaddyninja

Youd almost think it was something crazy like the ps2 being out for double the time, or teh fact that every console but the ps2 in teh ps2 era blew.

Playstation 2may have sold 150 million consoles but you would need to have the official Sony for figures for how many was sold at a given point of time versus the PS3 at the same time frame. Another point is that PS2 was a cheap DVD player / games combo at the time and it worked on a std defTV at its full potential, so for approx £200 at the time you had a cheap DVD / Game combo. Playstation 3 suffered from a £425 introduction price point, the need for a £1000* (At the time) 1080p TV to get the most out of it and this has no doubt hurt sales.

With all these futile and annoying fanboy damage control threads, it's time to explain why the PS3 is failing in sales.

Now, the PS1 and PS2 are probally some the greatest consoles of all time. They are highly regarded by millions. The PS2 has reached about 150 million sales worldwide. The original Xbox sold what, less than 30 million in sales worldwide?

The PS2 completely dominated, and reaching 150 million in sales is outstanding. The XBOX reached less than 30 million.

The XBOX360 has reached around 40 million in sales. An increase in sales. That's an accomplishment.

Now to the PS3. The PS3 has reached around 35 million in sales worldwide. Now this is where the fail comes in. Explain to me, how can a console(PS2) sell 150 million, and then in the next gen, The PS3 only reaches 35 million. That is an incredible drop in sales. The freaking PS2 reaches 150 million sales, and The PS3 reaches a mere 35 million??!

The PS3 is the predecessor of a console that had 150 million in sales, gets dominated for four years in the current gen, and is just now starting to catch up?? And people are bragging about this? Why are these 150 million PS2 owners not buying the PS3? People. This is not an accomplishment.. By the look of the previous sales, the PS3 should have been doing good in the start, andit'sjust starting to catch up after being dominated for over four years. The PS3 should have been dominating from the start, but it has been in dead last for four years, and finally after getting a severe price-cut it's now only starting to catch up? That's a joke.

The XBOX360 reaches a gain in sales from last gen, while Playstation goes from 150 million to 35 million. I like all consoles, but to see these PS3 fanboys brag about numbers by trying to use Vcharts is just sad. Don't pay any attention to that nonsense. Being the predecessor of a console that sold 150 million to being dead last to finally catching up after four years IS NOT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER. Sony is most likely embarrassed by these numbers, and yet people are trying to brag about them. Sorry for the long post, but I'm just trying to show why these damage control threads will not work.

yodaddyninja

Ok. Sony oviously expected to sell more than 35 million because if they didn't, they wouldn't of sold the console at $600 if they thought people weren't going to buy it.

People think Sony is accomplishing something. Being in dead lastand catching up to Xbox360 after being dominated for four years is nothing for fanboys to brag about. Each gen of consoles plays a large role on the next one. If the first console isn't good, it will be hard to sell the second. PS2 sold huge, so telling me that they didn't expect to sell alot PS3's is bull. If a game sells good, the company will expect the sequel to sell good. Same principle hear.

Also, the point of this thread is not words. My post contains facts, not opnions. To tell me that a company that sold 150 millon units last gen and is selling a mere 34 million this gen is an accomplishment, you must beblind. The Xbox360 and Wii increased in sales compared to last gens consoles. If a companies game sells 5 million copies, they would expect similiar numbers with the sequel.

To be outsold by a console that sold 24 million units last gen is embarrasing compared to the 150 million Sony sold. The previous gen plays a large role on the next gen.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

This gen isn't over?

"Truth" debunked.

yodaddyninja

I know its not over? Even if the PS3 catches up, so what?

Even if it doesn't, so what?

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

This gen isn't over?

"Truth" debunked.

Gxgear

I know its not over? Even if the PS3 catches up, so what?

Even if it doesn't, so what?

The fanboys seem to care alot, you should try asking them.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

I know its not over? Even if the PS3 catches up, so what?

yodaddyninja

Even if it doesn't, so what?

The fanboys seem to care alot, you should try asking them.

You cared enough to make a thread about it, so I'm asking you.

"150 million" is mentioned 8 times in the OP. :lol:

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Even if it doesn't, so what?

Gxgear

The fanboys seem to care alot, you should try asking them.

You cared enough to make a thread about it, so I'm asking you.

The point of this thread is to show basically how stupid these fanboy/damage control threads are. I could really care less about how much a console sells. There's like 20 threads a day saying PS3 sells more than Xbox360 and that the PS3 will pass the Xbox360, in which the first claim isn't even true and the second claim has no ground to it. I just get annoyed at unjust claims spreading around.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

The fanboys seem to care alot, you should try asking them.

yodaddyninja

You cared enough to make a thread about it, so I'm asking you.

The point of this thread is to show basically how stupid these fanboy/damage control threads are. I could really care less about how much a console sells. There's like 20 threads a day saying PS3 sells more than Xbox360 and that the PS3 will pass the Xbox360, in which the first claim isn't even true and the second claim has no ground to it. I just get annoyed at unjust claims spreading around.

It's also stupid when people make threads about fanboy/damage control threads, yet here we are.

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

You cared enough to make a thread about it, so I'm asking you.

Gxgear

The point of this thread is to show basically how stupid these fanboy/damage control threads are. I could really care less about how much a console sells. There's like 20 threads a day saying PS3 sells more than Xbox360 and that the PS3 will pass the Xbox360, in which the first claim isn't even true and the second claim has no ground to it. I just get annoyed at unjust claims spreading around.

It's also stupid when people make threads about fanboy/damage control threads, yet here we are.

I'm just explaining the truth. Call it what you want.

yodaddyninja,

The title of your post here is Truth About PS3 Sales,

But you gave sparse truth, in fact. First, the PS3 is 3 years old, not the 4 that you keep touting. XBOX 360 may be 4 years old, but the PS3 is 3, a well as the Wii.

Speaking of the Wii, it is the Wii that is "king of the hill" at the moment, and XBOX 360 is in second, with the PS3 breathing down its neck within arms reach.

You also keep mentioning the PS2 sold 150 million units, this is largely true, but that is in a 10 year span. Who told you the PS3 would not reach its own 100 million plateau? It's very likely that it will.

PlayStation 3 Forecasted to Move 127 Million

yodaddyninja,

The title of your post here is Truth About PS3 Sales,

But you gave sparse truth, in fact. First, the PS3 is 3 years old, not the 4 that you keep touting. XBOX 360 may be 4 years old, but the PS3 is 3, a well as the Wii.

Speaking of the Wii, it is the Wii that is "king of the hill" at the moment, and XBOX 360 is in second, with the PS3 breathing down its neck within arms reach.

You also keep mentioning the PS2 sold 150 million units, this is largely true, but that is in a 10 year span. Who told you the PS3 would not reach its own 100 million plateau? It's very likely that it will.

PlayStation 3 Forecasted to Move 127 Million

Persistantthug

so if the ps3 is going to move 127m does that mean the wii will move around 300m? there have been no signs that show the wii selling less then 3 times as many surrealnumber5

Market Saturation.

yodaddyninja,

The title of your post here is Truth About PS3 Sales,

But you gave sparse truth, in fact. First, the PS3 is 3 years old, not the 4 that you keep touting. XBOX 360 may be 4 years old, but the PS3 is 3, a well as the Wii.

Speaking of the Wii, it is the Wii that is "king of the hill" at the moment, and XBOX 360 is in second, with the PS3 breathing down its neck within arms reach.

You also keep mentioning the PS2 sold 150 million units, this is largely true, but that is in a 10 year span. Who told you the PS3 would not reach its own 100 million plateau? It's very likely that it will.

PlayStation 3 Forecasted to Move 127 Million

Persistantthug

PS3 might be able to reach 100 million, I agree, but we'll be into the next gen and I alsoknow that PS2 reached 150 million in 10 years, but it hit the 100 million mark long before that. The future is also not set in stone. Fanboys think the PS3 is outselling Xbox360, etc, and I'm just pointing out that that's not true.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]so if the ps3 is going to move 127m does that mean the wii will move around 300m? there have been no signs that show the wii selling less then 3 times as many Persistantthug

Market Saturation.

[QUOTE="Persistantthug"]

yodaddyninja,

The title of your post here is Truth About PS3 Sales,

But you gave sparse truth, in fact. First, the PS3 is 3 years old, not the 4 that you keep touting. XBOX 360 may be 4 years old, but the PS3 is 3, a well as the Wii.

Speaking of the Wii, it is the Wii that is "king of the hill" at the moment, and XBOX 360 is in second, with the PS3 breathing down its neck within arms reach.

You also keep mentioning the PS2 sold 150 million units, this is largely true, but that is in a 10 year span. Who told you the PS3 would not reach its own 100 million plateau? It's very likely that it will.

PlayStation 3 Forecasted to Move 127 Million

yodaddyninja

PS3 might be able to reach 100 million, I agree, but we'll be into the next gen and I alsoknow that PS2 reached 150 million in 10 years, but it hit the 100 million mark long before that. The future is also not set in stone. Fanboys think the PS3 is outselling PS3, etc, and I'm just pointing out that that's not true.

TC has got a point and i've been saying it. There is nothing to brag about. For MS, going from what was the Xbox 1 (which was testing the market) to evening out the market with the X360 and bringing the PS brand down (Sony helped inadvertently) this gen is a massive achievement for MS.

Going from such market popularity with the PS1 and 2 to an absolute tug of war, bloody struggle that it has been this gen for Sony isn't an achievement at all.

This gen is not going to have been beneficial for Sony at all, they will have to move on when MS are ready in a year or so with a new console.

I imagine given the cost of development, Sony are going to be the only ones supporting the PS3 for the ten year life span. It won't be viable for anyone else.

I think for whats left of this gen, Sony are salvaging the PS brand and the market. They are doing well in that sense and setting themselves up for next gen, but from a business point of view, this has not been an ideal gen for Sony.

From a console point of view, its great sure, top notch games and is neck and neck with MS.

Both have lost money this gen, MS with the RROD and Sony with the massive costs, low early sales and all their well known difficulties. But at the end its worth it for MS because of the Market they have taken.

I'd even go so far as to blame the expensive (to develop) Cell CPU. It's led to slow costly development in a fast moving market. Having good looking games that Sony don't market doesn't make it worth it from a business point.

PS3 might be able to reach 100 million, I agree, but we'll be into the next gen and I alsoknow that PS2 reached 150 million in 10 years, but it hit the 100 million mark long before that. The future is also not set in stone. Fanboys think the PS3 is outselling PS3, etc, and I'm just pointing out that that's not true.

yodaddyninja

I assume you meant "Fanboys think the PS3 is outselling PS2"....but who told you that?

It's all about perception. For instance, last gen, if you were a fan of the XBox you were sort of shunned by most gamers. Most people thought it was an anemic console at best but with good graphics. This generation, you can go on boards like this one and if you poo-poo the 360 you are considered a fanboy. Almost to the point where if you bag on it, you are instantaneously labeled a disgruntled PS3 fan right off the bat.

Thre's also a LOT of wierdness going on in the industry itself. Notice how FFXIIIs metacritic score is lower on the PS3 version than the 360? Technicly speaking, that is a bias in the way our review systems work and that has worked out very well for MS this gen. Despite having a lot of hardware problems, the 360 gets treated with velvet gloves in the media because of the total failure that the first XBox was. Go figure, Microsofts greatest achievement this gen has been to win sympathy. Despite not selling a whole hell of a lot more consoles than the PS3, the 360 gets all the attention.

Add on top of all that, the Wii has resonated well with the casual audience that made up the bulk of console sales last gen and it's pretty much rolled up the red carpet reception. Last gen you could buy everything from Metal Gear Solid to Britney Spear's Dance party or whatever. This gen, because of the Wii, there can not be one console to rule them all. The PS3 is caught between a rock and a hard place. The PS3 has been a media black sheep since 2005. The fact it is going anywhere at all is a testament to it's brand power and exclusive software.

So then comparing hardware sales from different generations to the present then MS is still failing really bad to the ps2. I think MS should just pack it up since they can't even match a previous generations hardware sales, even with HD gaming. Geez. :roll:

Being the predecessor of a console that sold 150 million to being dead last to finally catching up after four years IS NOT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER. Sony is most likely embarrasedby these numbers, and yet people are trying to brag about them. Sorry for the long post, but I'm just trying to show why these damage control threads will not work.

yodaddyninja

I can assure you Mr. TC; that Sony is far from embarrassed about the sales numbers. I guess they still believe they are the ones that dominate this generation of consoles as the other two before this. What a guy of Sony said... I remember now: This Generation doesn't start until we say so. Sony arrogant actitude at the beginning of the generation costed them the first place they had for two generations with a console that was expensive, hardly any good game at the beginning and with an online service that wasn't pretty good.

With all these futile and annoying fanboy damage control threads, it's time to explain why the PS3 is failing in sales.

Now, the PS1 and PS2 are probally some the greatest consoles of all time. They are highly regarded by millions. The PS2 has reached about 150 million sales worldwide. The original Xbox sold what, less than 30 million in sales worldwide?

The PS2 completely dominated, and reaching 150 million in sales is outstanding. The XBOX reached less than 30 million.

The XBOX360 has reached around 40 million in sales. An increase in sales. That's an accomplishment.

Now to the PS3. The PS3 has reached around 35 million in sales worldwide. Now this is where the fail comes in. Explain to me, how can a console(PS2) sell 150 million, and then in the next gen, The PS3 only reaches 35 million. That is an incredible drop in sales. The freaking PS2 reaches 150 million sales, and The PS3 reaches a mere 35 million??!

The PS3 is the predecessor of a console that had 150 million in sales, gets dominated for four years in the current gen, and is just now starting to catch up?? And people are bragging about this? Why are these 150 million PS2 owners not buying the PS3? People. This is not an accomplishment.. By the look of the previous sales, the PS3 should have been doing good in the start, andit'sjust starting to catch up after being dominated for over four years. The PS3 should have been dominating from the start, but it has been in dead last for four years, and finally after getting a severe price-cut it's now only starting to catch up? That's a joke.

The XBOX360 reaches a gain in sales from last gen, while Playstation goes from 150 million to 35 million. I like all consoles, but to see these PS3 fanboys brag about numbers by trying to use Vcharts is just sad. Don't pay any attention to that nonsense. Being the predecessor of a console that sold 150 million to being dead last to finally catching up after four years IS NOT AN ACCOMPLISHMENT IN ANY WAY WHATSOEVER. Sony is most likely embarrassed by these numbers, and yet people are trying to brag about them. Sorry for the long post, but I'm just trying to show why these damage control threads will not work.

yodaddyninja

Why did you say the same thing over 3-4 times?

TC has got a point and i've been saying it. There is nothing to brag about. For MS, going from what was the Xbox 1 (which was testing the market) to evening out the market with the X360 and bringing the PS brand down (Sony helped inadvertently) this gen is a massive achievement for MS.

Going from such market popularity with the PS1 and 2 to an absolute tug of war, bloody struggle that it has been this gen for Sony isn't an achievement at all.

This gen is not going to have been beneficial for Sony at all, they will have to move on when MS are ready in a year or so with a new console.

I imagine given the cost of development, Sony are going to be the only ones supporting the PS3 for the ten year life span. It won't be viable for anyone else.

I think for whats left of this gen, Sony are salvaging the PS brand and the market. They are doing well in that sense and setting themselves up for next gen, but from a business point of view, this has not been an ideal gen for Sony.

From a console point of view, its great sure, top notch games and is neck and neck with MS.

Both have lost money this gen, MS with the RROD and Sony with the massive costs, low early sales and all their well known difficulties. But at the end its worth it for MS because of the Market they have taken.

I'd even go so far as to blame the expensive (to develop) Cell CPU. It's led to slow costly development in a fast moving market. Having good looking games that Sony don't market doesn't make it worth it from a business point.

Darth_DuMas

Exactly..They weren't successful this generation. To completely dominate last gen and then to finally start catching up from last place is not an accomplishment..

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

PS3 might be able to reach 100 million, I agree, but we'll be into the next gen and I alsoknow that PS2 reached 150 million in 10 years, but it hit the 100 million mark long before that. The future is also not set in stone. Fanboys think the PS3 is outselling PS3, etc, and I'm just pointing out that that's not true.

Persistantthug

I assume you meant "Fanboys think the PS3 is outselling PS2"....but who told you that?

I meant to say fanboys think PS3 is outselling Xbox360.

the truth is the ps3 is the best entertainment system u can buy wid money worldwide n sales continues to increase every second

You almost answered your own question in your post.

"and finally after getting a severe price-cut it's now only starting to catch up? That's a joke."

Ohh so close. Put 1 and 1 together! The PS2 launched at $299. It's price right now is $99. PS3 launched at $599. It's price right now is $299. I didn't give you the answer. It's still there to figure out.

Talking about MS what's the accomplishment? 10 million more 360's than xbox's. It would be an accomplishment if it didn't have rrod.

So then comparing hardware sales from different generations to the present then MS is still failing really bad to the ps2. I think MS should just pack it up since they can't even match a previous generations hardware sales, even with HD gaming. Geez. :roll:

GreyFoXX4

That proves my point. If Sony's last gen console sold so well, why was the PS3 in dead last for3-4 years and is finally starting to somewhat catchup? This huge peak in PS3 sales isn't going to last long, and actually it's already severely slowing down. I like all consoles, but I have to admit that Sony has failed this gen and hopefully they learn from this and do better next gen.

You almost answered your own question in your post.

"and finally after getting a severe price-cut it's now only starting to catch up? That's a joke."

Ohh so close. Put 1 and 1 together! The PS2 launched at $299. It's price right now is $99. PS3 launched at $599. It's price right now is $299. I didn't give you the answer. It's still there to figure out.

Talking about MS what's the accomplishment? 10 million more 360's than xbox's. It would be an accomplishment if it didn't have rrod.

LOXO7

To gain more consumers than you had last gen is an accomplishment, not losing the majority of them. To be beating a company(Sony) that completely dominated the market last gen is an accomplishment. It showed MS did something right, where as Sony did something wrong. RROD has nothing to do with this. To be in first then be in last is obvously not good. Also, you shouldn't have to cut your consoles price in half just for it to sell. The Xbox360 did great at launch, even at full price.

all three consoles put together can't touch ps2 sales

what is your point?

all three consoles put together can't touch ps2 sales

what is your point?

DanteSuikoden

My point is that Sony fanboys are trying to brag and make damage control threads and these people have no justification to try to brag about anything. I've also seen several threads saying that the PS3 is outselling the Xbox360 worldwide, which is not true.

It was the 3rd console curse :P

[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

You almost answered your own question in your post.

"and finally after getting a severe price-cut it's now only starting to catch up? That's a joke."

Ohh so close. Put 1 and 1 together! The PS2 launched at $299. It's price right now is $99. PS3 launched at $599. It's price right now is $299. I didn't give you the answer. It's still there to figure out.

Talking about MS what's the accomplishment? 10 million more 360's than xbox's. It would be an accomplishment if it didn't have rrod.

yodaddyninja

To gain more consumers than you had last gen is an accomplishment, not losing the majority of them. To be beating a company(Sony) that completely dominated the market last gen is an accomplishment. It showed they did something right, where as Sony did something wrong. RROD has nothing to do with this.

The market doesn't work this way. Sony didn't loose anything. But to you it should mean that they still have those 150 million consoles because the PS2 is still out. They didn't lose them because they are still making games for them. The only way the PS3 is a failure is when it is not making profit for itself. Not comparing PS2 to PS3 sales. Not xbox to 360 sales.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

This gen isn't over?

"Truth" debunked.

yodaddyninja

I know its not over? Even if the PS3 catches up, so what?

And this is the truth. Not observatoins but facts.

yodaddyninja

[QUOTE="yodaddyninja"]

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

I know its not over? Even if the PS3 catches up, so what?

Shielder7

And this is the truth. Not observatoins but facts.

yodaddyninja

MS didn't make millions from people rebuying a console. If they did, it must be a good console if people keep buying it again instead of getting a Wii or PS3 instead. I actually have facts and common sense in my post.

Let me get this straight? Because PS3 can't hold a candle to PS2 sales, it's a bust right? So we are going to state this as a fact while we ignore these other facts. -PS2 Dominated last generation in software, no other system could hold a candle to them -PS2 was arguably one of the cheapest DVD players out for some time *don't start on me with Blu-ray as adoption rates are much slower and price difference was -much larger* -The other 2 consoles out at the time *Gamecube and Xbox* were pretty much dead in the water software and hardware wise -PS2 was the cheapest console to get The list go's on. It's not very savy to compare one generation from the next, there are so many factors that bring out a total generations sales, be it from launch, price cuts, libraries, features, supply, demand, economy and so many other things that play a factor. Not a single smart business person would look at the PS3 compared to the PS2 and make an informed decision on the PS3's success this generation so far. They would look at the here and now, looking at the past has far too many variables and is unreliable at best. "The facts" are nothing more than your own slanted opinion.Jynxzor

It makes perfect sense to look at the previous console compared to this gen. The PS3 is not a random thing, it's a continuation from the PS2. If the previous console sold well, Companies should expect the next console to sell well as well. To be in solid first last gen to being in last this gen means they didn't do something right. To be so successful to suddenly being at the bottom is not good and that's common sense.