The Truth Is Revealed

The PSP is a great system easily beating the DS in Hardware/Quality/Power. However the DS has the overall advantage as far as quality games go, using GameRankings and Metacritic as sources for that.

Which is more hardcore is questionable.

So you think Assassins creed should have scored better cause it crappily mimicked a 360/PS3 game whereas the DS version smartly played to its strengths? Or that somehow PSP games should be given more leniency because it Almost pulls off PS2 quality games but not quite? Blame Sony for making crappy controls and marketing it as a portable PS2 which it obviously can NOT do properly. VideoGameGuy

[QUOTE="kolkov01"]

[QUOTE="pokolvrolok"]

pokolvrolok

This is a GBA game, not a DS game

My bad

although you should definatly change the PSP screenshot. it looks so jagged that it makes the DS game actualy look better

[QUOTE="pokolvrolok"] LOL!! People with modded psp's can run Ocarina Of Time. Even ds can't run that and that's from N64. Signor_Biggles

I believe the DS is simply a better portable system. Key word, portable. Better battery life, screens are protected, not as obtusely shaped, and better games

Jamisonia

Sorry Tim Allen. "MORE POWER!" does not make a better system to me. The PSP has games I am not interested in. I find God of War series 1 dimensional, bland, and silly. Assassins creed....eh, theres versions on the DS and from what I've heard, neither portable version is good. If your only arguement to it's superiority is "more power", then you don't have much to stand on. The DS simply has more quality games than the PSP. All the power in the world doesn't help if there arn't alot of good games. Look at the Atari Jaguar. It had more power but few decent games.

I personally think the DS not only beats the PSP, but the PS3 as well.

Pixel-Pirate

[QUOTE="Jamisonia"]

I believe the DS is simply a better portable system. Key word, portable. Better battery life, screens are protected, not as obtusely shaped, and better games

pokolvrolok

The psp is stuck in the no-mans land of not a very good portable and nowhere near as good as consoles.

Are you being serious here?

battery life absolutely matters in a portable console. If I just were to plug it in all the time to play it, why would I just play a console?

Jamisonia

[QUOTE="pokolvrolok"]

[QUOTE="kolkov01"]

This is a GBA game, not a DS game

kolkov01

My bad

although you should definatly change the PSP screenshot. it looks so jagged that it makes the DS game actualy look better

I have both handhelds and i way prefer the games on DS.

I have a feeling the same people who say the PSP is better than the DS also say PS1 was better than N64 and PS2 was better than Gamecube. Graphics aren't everything. (then again, I don't have either handheld, so you can probably ignore my opinion. :P)

[QUOTE="pokolvrolok"][QUOTE="Jamisonia"]

I believe the DS is simply a better portable system. Key word, portable. Better battery life, screens are protected, not as obtusely shaped, and better games

topgunmv

The psp is stuck in the no-mans land of not a very good portable and nowhere near as good as consoles.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="pokolvrolok"] Fine. But I believe PSP is a better all-round gaming system.pokolvrolok

The psp is stuck in the no-mans land of not a very good portable and nowhere near as good as consoles.

protip-the more lulz you use, the less people will take you seriously.

[QUOTE="pokolvrolok"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

The psp is stuck in the no-mans land of not a very good portable and nowhere near as good as consoles.

topgunmv

protip-the more lulz you use, the less people will take you seriously.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="pokolvrolok"] Fine. But I believe PSP is a better all-round gaming system.pokolvrolok

The psp is stuck in the no-mans land of not a very good portable and nowhere near as good as consoles.

I have both handhelds and i way prefer the games on DS.

zarshack

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="pokolvrolok"] Lmao u mean the psp is the handheld which didn't target itself at casual or non-gamers or get advertised everywhere and attract people with its touch screen and low price and appeal to kids with non-offensive or violent games and so it's selling badly. LOLpokolvrolok

protip-the more lulz you use, the less people will take you seriously.

You're just recycling "deh kitty" rhetoric, why should I expend the energy?

[QUOTE="zarshack"]

I have both handhelds and i way prefer the games on DS.

raskullibur

There's a reason I haven't even taken the trouble of looking for my long-missing PSP.

[QUOTE="pokolvrolok"][QUOTE="topgunmv"]

The psp is stuck in the no-mans land of not a very good portable and nowhere near as good as consoles.

Yandere

I love my PSP it has more use than my DSraskullibur

[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="raskullibur"] Maybe because you have a Zelda sig.raskullibur

He can still play Zelda games on PSP if he wanted to ;)

Yeah, illegally. And I doubt he can play his PSP in prison.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

There's a reason I haven't even taken the trouble of looking for my long-missing PSP.

pokolvrolok

Ironic, considering you're the one who made a thread to bash one of the handhelds.

I have a feeling the same people who say the PSP is better than the DS also say PS1 was better than N64 and PS2 was better than Gamecube. Graphics aren't everything. (then again, I don't have either handheld, so you can probably ignore my opinion. :P)

ferelas

[QUOTE="pokolvrolok"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

There's a reason I haven't even taken the trouble of looking for my long-missing PSP.

topgunmv

Ironic, considering you're the one who made a thread to bash one of the handhelds.

Well, everything people are writing is pretty much covered in my original post. xD

The only people who are actually bothering to reply are those who either didn't read it or didn't understand the point I was trying to get across.

It wasn't that the ds is bad but actually, that it's not superior.

There's a difference. I'm defending psp, not attacking ds.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

There's a reason I haven't even taken the trouble of looking for my long-missing PSP.

pokolvrolok

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]More power does not equate to better games, it definitely helps, but not when it the devs don't fully take advantage of it to make said games. And LOL at you thinking hardcore gamers would want the PSP, you obviously have no idea what kind of games the DS has. :lol:pokolvrolok

Resistance Retribution: Not only does it feature ragdoll physics but it has superb animation, good ai, has a load of enemies on screen at once without any slow-down, it features lots of unique weapons all with amazing abilities and powers, the explosions are awesome, the level design's great, the environment's well animated and there's always something going on on the screen.

Littlebigplanet: Despite a lack of multiplayer, it features the same impressive physics as the ps3 game and lets you create your own wicked, depthful levels on the go.

Assassins Creed Bloodlines: Sure, it lost a few things in translation but the core gameplay is pretty much intact! What an achievement that is.

God Of War: It was considered breathtaking and technically limit pushing on ps2, yet it made it to psp without a hitch except perhaps a slightly shorter length than the ps2 games.

Metal Gear SoliD Peace Walker: Upcoming Metal Gear Solid game which will feature co-op and after playing the demo, I have to say it plays better than most ps3/360 games! No joke. The environment's so alive. You can shoot and destroy quite a lot of things in the environment, stuff blows in the wind, things react to your gunshots, etc.

Medal Of Honor: Not exactly breathtaking graphics but still, 32 players per server online, that's amazing.

Motorstorm Arctic Edge: Featured everything you've come to expect from a motorstorm game and loses nothing except level of graphical detail. The game length is verryy long.

You see, psp's power is used.

What I see, are watered down versions of games.

The PSP should play its strengths,

It needs more games like Lumines/LocoRoco/Half-Minute Hero/Sid Meier's Pirates. Not clearly inferior version of games.

Take a look at Assassin's Creed for the DS/PSP for example, the translation from 3D to 2D/3D was done well on the DS, they knew the DS couldn't let you play an experience like AC for the consoles, so they decided to change it up, and it worked, not perfectly, but it worked.

They could have done the same for the PSP, but then they decided to at least try to give you a similar experience like the console version, and it clearly failed.

I sold my PSP for an Itouch. Why? Because as a multimedia player, there are better options. I know it's all subjective but out of all the games on the PSP only around 15 of them ever made me play my PSP for days on end. + belive it not but the software lineup for the PSP SUCKS ever since piracy became a a lot more open for the average joe.

DS is superior in everyway. If you want a multimedia device, there are FAR better options available and the DS lineup is actually FAR better than a PSP's. It have almost every genre the PSP has and more.

[QUOTE="ferelas"]

I have a feeling the same people who say the PSP is better than the DS also say PS1 was better than N64 and PS2 was better than Gamecube. Graphics aren't everything. (then again, I don't have either handheld, so you can probably ignore my opinion. :P)

pokolvrolok

Fair enough. At least you're consistent; that's more than can be said for most people.

[QUOTE="pokolvrolok"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]More power does not equate to better games, it definitely helps, but not when it the devs don't fully take advantage of it to make said games. And LOL at you thinking hardcore gamers would want the PSP, you obviously have no idea what kind of games the DS has. :lol:tagyhag

Resistance Retribution: Not only does it feature ragdoll physics but it has superb animation, good ai, has a load of enemies on screen at once without any slow-down, it features lots of unique weapons all with amazing abilities and powers, the explosions are awesome, the level design's great, the environment's well animated and there's always something going on on the screen.

Littlebigplanet: Despite a lack of multiplayer, it features the same impressive physics as the ps3 game and lets you create your own wicked, depthful levels on the go.

Assassins Creed Bloodlines: Sure, it lost a few things in translation but the core gameplay is pretty much intact! What an achievement that is.

God Of War: It was considered breathtaking and technically limit pushing on ps2, yet it made it to psp without a hitch except perhaps a slightly shorter length than the ps2 games.

Metal Gear SoliD Peace Walker: Upcoming Metal Gear Solid game which will feature co-op and after playing the demo, I have to say it plays better than most ps3/360 games! No joke. The environment's so alive. You can shoot and destroy quite a lot of things in the environment, stuff blows in the wind, things react to your gunshots, etc.

Medal Of Honor: Not exactly breathtaking graphics but still, 32 players per server online, that's amazing.

Motorstorm Arctic Edge: Featured everything you've come to expect from a motorstorm game and loses nothing except level of graphical detail. The game length is verryy long.

You see, psp's power is used.

What I see, are watered down versions of games.

The PSP should play its strengths,

It needs more games like Lumines/LocoRoco/Half-Minute Hero/Sid Meier's Pirates. Not clearly inferior version of games.

Take a look at Assassin's Creed for the DS/PSP for example, the translation from 3D to 2D/3D was done well on the DS, they knew the DS couldn't let you play an experience like AC for the consoles, so they decided to change it up, and it worked, not perfectly, but it worked.

They could have done the same for the PSP, but then they decided to at least try to give you a similar experience like the console version, and it clearly failed.

I sold my PSP for an Itouch. Why? Because as a multimedia player, there are better options. I know it's all subjective but out of all the games on the PSP only around 15 of them ever made me play my PSP for days on end. + belive it not but the software lineup for the PSP SUCKS ever since piracy became a a lot more open for the average joe.

DS is superior in everyway. If you want a multimedia device, there are FAR better options available and the DS lineup is actually FAR better than a PSP's. It have almost every genre the PSP has and more.

sanim02

[QUOTE="pokolvrolok"][QUOTE="ferelas"]

I have a feeling the same people who say the PSP is better than the DS also say PS1 was better than N64 and PS2 was better than Gamecube. Graphics aren't everything. (then again, I don't have either handheld, so you can probably ignore my opinion. :P)

ferelas

Fair enough. At least you're consistent; that's more than can be said for most people.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="pokolvrolok"] ??? Don't take advantage of it?! Resistance Retribution: Not only does it feature ragdoll physics but it has superb animation, good ai, has a load of enemies on screen at once without any slow-down, it features lots of unique weapons all with amazing abilities and powers, the explosions are awesome, the level design's great, the environment's well animated and there's always something going on on the screen. Littlebigplanet: Despite a lack of multiplayer, it features the same impressive physics as the ps3 game and lets you create your own wicked, depthful levels on the go. Assassins Creed Bloodlines: Sure, it lost a few things in translation but the core gameplay is pretty much intact! What an achievement that is. God Of War: It was considered breathtaking and technically limit pushing on ps2, yet it made it to psp without a hitch except perhaps a slightly shorter length than the ps2 games. Metal Gear SoliD Peace Walker: Upcoming Metal Gear Solid game which will feature co-op and after playing the demo, I have to say it plays better than most ps3/360 games! No joke. The environment's so alive. You can shoot and destroy quite a lot of things in the environment, stuff blows in the wind, things react to your gunshots, etc. Medal Of Honor: Not exactly breathtaking graphics but still, 32 players per server online, that's amazing. Motorstorm Arctic Edge: Featured everything you've come to expect from a motorstorm game and loses nothing except level of graphical detail. The game length is verryy long. You see, psp's power is used.pokolvrolok

That's a bit of a stretch.

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

[QUOTE="pokolvrolok"] ??? Don't take advantage of it?!

Resistance Retribution: Not only does it feature ragdoll physics but it has superb animation, good ai, has a load of enemies on screen at once without any slow-down, it features lots of unique weapons all with amazing abilities and powers, the explosions are awesome, the level design's great, the environment's well animated and there's always something going on on the screen.

Littlebigplanet: Despite a lack of multiplayer, it features the same impressive physics as the ps3 game and lets you create your own wicked, depthful levels on the go.

Assassins Creed Bloodlines: Sure, it lost a few things in translation but the core gameplay is pretty much intact! What an achievement that is.

God Of War: It was considered breathtaking and technically limit pushing on ps2, yet it made it to psp without a hitch except perhaps a slightly shorter length than the ps2 games.

Metal Gear SoliD Peace Walker: Upcoming Metal Gear Solid game which will feature co-op and after playing the demo, I have to say it plays better than most ps3/360 games! No joke. The environment's so alive. You can shoot and destroy quite a lot of things in the environment, stuff blows in the wind, things react to your gunshots, etc.

Medal Of Honor: Not exactly breathtaking graphics but still, 32 players per server online, that's amazing.

Motorstorm Arctic Edge: Featured everything you've come to expect from a motorstorm game and loses nothing except level of graphical detail. The game length is verryy long.

You see, psp's power is used.pokolvrolok

What I see, are watered down versions of games.

The PSP should play its strengths,

It needs more games like Lumines/LocoRoco/Half-Minute Hero/Sid Meier's Pirates. Not clearly inferior version of games.

Take a look at Assassin's Creed for the DS/PSP for example, the translation from 3D to 2D/3D was done well on the DS, they knew the DS couldn't let you play an experience like AC for the consoles, so they decided to change it up, and it worked, not perfectly, but it worked.

They could have done the same for the PSP, but then they decided to at least try to give you a similar experience like the console version, and it clearly failed.

A hardcore fan of a game wouldn't play a terrible version of a game, only a blind fan would do that.

[QUOTE="pokolvrolok"]

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]

What I see, are watered down versions of games.

The PSP should play its strengths,

It needs more games like Lumines/LocoRoco/Half-Minute Hero/Sid Meier's Pirates. Not clearly inferior version of games.

Take a look at Assassin's Creed for the DS/PSP for example, the translation from 3D to 2D/3D was done well on the DS, they knew the DS couldn't let you play an experience like AC for the consoles, so they decided to change it up, and it worked, not perfectly, but it worked.

They could have done the same for the PSP, but then they decided to at least try to give you a similar experience like the console version, and it clearly failed.

tagyhag

A hardcore fan of a game wouldn't play a terrible version of a game, only a blind fan would do that.

Except that Bloodlines isn't a terrible version of anything. It's a fun, unique portion of the Assassin's Creed story that any hardcore fan should play.

the best solution was to compare the system to the superior Playstation 2. As a result, each time a psp game performed to the standards of a ps2 game (which should be absolutely worshipped considering it's running so smoothly in the palm of your hand), but lacked perhaps one or two features, it would get scrutinised and criticised much more that seems logical for a handheld system.pokolvrolok

Now, if the psp and ds were considered equal systems then surely you would see the exact same ratings for the games on both systems but is this the case...?

No.

Here's one of the most extreme examples:

Asphalt 2 on ds got approximately: 6.5 average score

Asphalt 2 on psp got approximately: 3.0 average score

Also, user ratings for the ds games are almost always higher than that of psp. They seem to overrate all of their games, eg:

Harry Potter & The Half Blood Prince on ds, gamespot users gave it: 7.6

Harry Potter & The Half Blood Prince on psp, gamespot users gave it: 3.8

Spiderman Web Of Shadows for ds, gamespot users gave it: approximately: 8.0

Spiderman Web Of Shadows for psp, gamespot users gave it approximately: 5.0

Spongebob Squarepants: Yellow Avenger for ds, gamespot users gave it approximately: 7.5

Spongebob Squarepants: Yellow Avenger for psp, gamespot users gave it approximately: 6.5

The Golden compass on ds, users gave it: 6.2

The Golden compass on psp, users gave it: 3.1

Unlike ds owners, psp owners actually have standards.

Do you people understand? Ratings mean nothing in the context of PSP vs DS.pokolvrolok

[QUOTE="pokolvrolok"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

There's a reason I haven't even taken the trouble of looking for my long-missing PSP.

Verge_6