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[QUOTE="Zhengi"]360 fanboys need to stop. The RPG king this gen is the DS. And no, the 360 is not the ultimate place for RPG gamers.360-ps3-wii-pcAre these people even on the same planet? now the DS and the 360 are direct competitiors??? This is getting really, really, really, rrrrrreeeaaalllyyyyy sad. really.
Nice damage control. When someone makes the claim that a system is the RPG King, how can it claim that title if it's afraid to go up against a handheld? That just means it's a paper king and nothing else.
[QUOTE="Zhengi"]360 fanboys need to stop. The RPG king this gen is the DS. And no, the 360 is not the ultimate place for RPG gamers.Millennium_King
Oh yeah, I'd rather play Revenant Wings and The World Ends With You over Infinite Undiscovery and Star Ocean 4 anyday. :roll:
Hey, why not? Have you even tried them? Those are two good games, but they are NOT the only RPGs on the DS. Try Final Fantasy Tactics 2, Final Fantasy IV, Mario Superstars, Magical Starsign, Eterian Odyssesy, ASH, Contact, Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker, Dragon Quest: Rocket Slime, Dragon Quest 9, Tales of the Heart, Chrono Trigger, Sonic Chronicles, Blue Dragon, etc.
Yeah, claiming the 360 is the RPG king is a joke.
Ermacness, I can't play how much PS3 sold, lol. I don't care. I already own all the consoles, so I just focus on the games. PS3's exclusives are looking pretty sorry. Multiplats, I weigh my options. Smooth XBL interface for online shooters or clunky PSN? No trophy support or achievements galore? I might buy SC4 for the PS3 because I have nothing else to buy for it, then I guess I wait for LBP. In between that time I will have bought about 4 360 games. It's pretty sad. Millennium_KingLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! so we're going to use the almighty "but the ps3 has no games" card are we now? Well, if you only like AAA games, then your 360 library must be kinda small, now i know that the ps3 doesn't have any AAA games, but we sure do have a AAAAE game, and by the way, don't say that the entire ps3 line-up is sorry, but hold NG2 and Mass Effect in high regard
[QUOTE="jazreal"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Rexer-i4"]too bad that it ain't going to help the 360 win 08and i have nothing else to say
ermacness
Yup - there are many great RPGs to play! Im glad I got 360, Im a RPG fan but I knew the PS3 would suffer this gen.Mr_CumberdaleLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! just because FFXlll jump ship, now all the lerms claim that the ps3 is doomed, how funny. Don't forget that the ps3 is the only console this gen, so far to have a AAAAE. So much for the ps3 is doomed right?
When they get a...
Shin Megami Tensei Game
Kingdom Hearts Game
Breath of Fire Game
Dragon Warrior Game
Grandia Game
Mana Game
Suikoden Game
Wild Arms Game
Xeno Game
Dark Cloud Game
Chrono Game
....
(theres probably more I'm forgetting)
Then it can claim the title.
Zenkuso
They might. square's white engine is multiplatform and if FF13 is going to the 360 everything else is probably fair game too. well.. anything that would sell well in the US
Hey, why not? Have you even tried them? Those are two good games, but they are NOT the only RPGs on the DS. Try Final Fantasy Tactics 2, Final Fantasy IV, Mario Superstars, Magical Starsign, Eterian Odyssesy, ASH, Contact, Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker, Dragon Quest: Rocket Slime, Dragon Quest 9, Tales of the Heart, Chrono Trigger, Sonic Chronicles, Blue Dragon, etc.
Yeah, claiming the 360 is the RPG king is a joke.
Zhengi
JRPGs aren't the only types of RPGs
[QUOTE="Zenkuso"]Is the ps3 doing SO bad that the cows have to HOLD ON to the past now??? OK, lets play that game:When they get a...
Shin Megami Tensei Game
Kingdom Hearts Game
Breath of Fire Game
Dragon Warrior Game
Grandia Game
Mana Game
Suikoden Game
Wild Arms Game
Xeno Game
Dark Cloud Game
Chrono Game
....
(theres probably more I'm forgetting)
Then it can claim the title.
jazreal
But the xbox DESTROYED the ps2 in graphics, so quality over quanity blah blah....see, i can do this too :P
isn't that funny when ever lems want to prove the 360 is the greatest they use games from the past. everyone does it
[QUOTE="Mr_Cumberdale"]Yup - there are many great RPGs to play! Im glad I got 360, Im a RPG fan but I knew the PS3 would suffer this gen.ermacnessLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! just because FFXlll jump ship, now all the lerms claim that the ps3 is doomed, how funny. Don't forget that the ps3 is the only console this gen, so far to have a AAAAE. So much for the ps3 is doomed right?
[QUOTE="Zhengi"]Hey, why not? Have you even tried them? Those are two good games, but they are NOT the only RPGs on the DS. Try Final Fantasy Tactics 2, Final Fantasy IV, Mario Superstars, Magical Starsign, Eterian Odyssesy, ASH, Contact, Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker, Dragon Quest: Rocket Slime, Dragon Quest 9, Tales of the Heart, Chrono Trigger, Sonic Chronicles, Blue Dragon, etc.
Yeah, claiming the 360 is the RPG king is a joke.
opex07
JRPGs arnt the only types of RPGs
It's not like the 360 has an overwhelming WRPG catalogue either that surpasses the DS' JRPG catalogue either. Plus, if one wants to go with WRPGs or MMOs, the PC does a better job of that than the 360.
:lol: I Just noticed the "Square Did" in jazreal sigsHey broz ;) how are yaz tonight? LOL thanx, ya, i had to do that after E3 today :)
On topic-
Ok why the hate. Ok fair enough the DS has more library of JRPGs(a bunch of remakes and ports in certain cases as well like FF 4, etc) as well as original games(TWEWY,etc)
but as far as consoles and hell any system for that matter the 360 can cover all of the 3 big RPG types
WRPGs- Oblivion, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Fable 2
JRPGs- FF 13, Tales of Vesperia, Lost Odyssey, Infinite Undiscoverey, Star Ocean 4, Last Remanant, Eternal SOnota
MMORPGS- Final Fantasy XI, Champions Online
Are all of them exclusive? NO
Are all of them good or look good and deserve some hype(meaning some hope they will be good). Yes.
I mean the PS3 by far isn't keeping up with the 360 in RPGs.
Definantly not the Wii
DS has JRPGs, but no WRPGs
PC has the WRPGs and MMORPGs but the lack of JRPGs will hurt it like the lack of the big MMORPGs the pC has hurts the 360.
So i would say for the most part
PC is more or less greater than or equal to 360
360>PS3>Wii
in terms of RPGsjg4xchamp
and man, i agree, WHY ALL THE HATE? what alot of peopz fail to realize...and if ANYONE arguing different would just here what im fixin to say....honestly, without bias, they MIGHT find a common ground to END this silly debate...and my point is:
the DS is EXPECTED to have good JRPG's....its "made in Japan"....duuhhhrrrrrrrrr. so is the psp...and the ps3...and the ps2. IM talking about a WESTERN system that is at least TRYING to appeal to a nation that , honestly, CARES NOTHING about them....sheeesh, try this, with anyone or anything in any situation....try to make someone happy that HATES you.....yeah? can ANYONE appreciate this. THEN...its not over...then, ACTUALLY succeed at getting japan some decent titles....and still...BITE THE HAND THATS trying to help feed what YOU said you wanted.....dude...that sounds like a relationship that ANY smart person would say...OK you dont appreciate what im TRYING to do for youl..the FORGET YOU!!!
but no...MS keeps trying...and keepts trying....to throw japan some love....and all im saying...is that they ARE DOING IT.
phew...can ANYONE relate???? im goin' to bed, this is getting way to hard too...oh n/m :P
[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="jazreal"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Rexer-i4"]too bad that it ain't going to help the 360 win 08and i have nothing else to say
jazreal
[QUOTE="opex07"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]Hey, why not? Have you even tried them? Those are two good games, but they are NOT the only RPGs on the DS. Try Final Fantasy Tactics 2, Final Fantasy IV, Mario Superstars, Magical Starsign, Eterian Odyssesy, ASH, Contact, Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker, Dragon Quest: Rocket Slime, Dragon Quest 9, Tales of the Heart, Chrono Trigger, Sonic Chronicles, Blue Dragon, etc.
Yeah, claiming the 360 is the RPG king is a joke.
Zhengi
JRPGs arnt the only types of RPGs
It's not like the 360 has an overwhelming WRPG catalogue either that surpasses the DS' JRPG catalogue either. Plus, if one wants to go with WRPGs or MMOs, the PC does a better job of that than the 360.
the PC lacks in JRPGs, and the DS lacks in WRPGs and MMOs, the 360 has a more spread out variety of RPGs.
EDIT: And I wouldn't hold DS games to the same standard as console/PC games.
[QUOTE="jazreal"][QUOTE="Zenkuso"]Is the ps3 doing SO bad that the cows have to HOLD ON to the past now??? OK, lets play that game:When they get a...
Shin Megami Tensei Game
Kingdom Hearts Game
Breath of Fire Game
Dragon Warrior Game
Grandia Game
Mana Game
Suikoden Game
Wild Arms Game
Xeno Game
Dark Cloud Game
Chrono Game
....
(theres probably more I'm forgetting)
Then it can claim the title.
sireclaborn
But the xbox DESTROYED the ps2 in graphics, so quality over quanity blah blah....see, i can do this too :P
isn't that funny when ever lems want to prove the 360 is the greatest they use games from the past. everyone does it
ok...if i have to point out that i was being "rhetorical"....please dont make me point out that i was being "rhetorical" :P please? it will only make you look...oh n/mIt has good rpgs. eternal sonota was okay wasn't amazing but was pretty decent. LO and blue dragon were complete trash imo[QUOTE="Ragashahs"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Ragashahs"]alot of RPGs =/= good rpgsNielsNL
ES is coming to the PS3 by the way.
In Japan. Not in the U.S. and Europe.[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Mr_Cumberdale"]Yup - there are many great RPGs to play! Im glad I got 360, Im a RPG fan but I knew the PS3 would suffer this gen.jg4xchampLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! just because FFXlll jump ship, now all the lerms claim that the ps3 is doomed, how funny. Don't forget that the ps3 is the only console this gen, so far to have a AAAAE. So much for the ps3 is doomed right?
[QUOTE="NielsNL"]It has good rpgs. eternal sonota was okay wasn't amazing but was pretty decent. LO and blue dragon were complete trash imo[QUOTE="Ragashahs"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Ragashahs"]alot of RPGs =/= good rpgsjg4xchamp
ES is coming to the PS3 by the way.
In Japan. Not in the U.S. and Europe.That's new to me...
well if you're embarrassed for me about what was said about this topic, then how should i fell about you trying to claim that the ps3 is in big trouble when clearly not only the ps3 have been on the rise before this news, but sony's show didn't even air yet. How about we wait and see what sony will have to bring to the table tomorrow shall we? If sony falls on their face, then i'll admit ownage, fair?OK , if i have to say this ONE MORE TIME....wait, i already STRESSED that i did NOT SAY that ps3 was in BIG trouble.....are you keeping up with this conversation??? i did not say that....n/m bro....
ermacness
EDIT: and , i also said in another thread that "DO NOT count sony or Nintendo out" that they will NOT dissapoint thier.....n/m, its useless....huh?
[QUOTE="Zhengi"][QUOTE="opex07"][QUOTE="Zhengi"]Hey, why not? Have you even tried them? Those are two good games, but they are NOT the only RPGs on the DS. Try Final Fantasy Tactics 2, Final Fantasy IV, Mario Superstars, Magical Starsign, Eterian Odyssesy, ASH, Contact, Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker, Dragon Quest: Rocket Slime, Dragon Quest 9, Tales of the Heart, Chrono Trigger, Sonic Chronicles, Blue Dragon, etc.
Yeah, claiming the 360 is the RPG king is a joke.
opex07
JRPGs arnt the only types of RPGs
It's not like the 360 has an overwhelming WRPG catalogue either that surpasses the DS' JRPG catalogue either. Plus, if one wants to go with WRPGs or MMOs, the PC does a better job of that than the 360.
the PC lacks in JRPGs, and the DS lacks in WRPGs and MMOs, the 360 has a more spread out variety of RPGs.
EDIT: And I wouldn't hold DS games to the same standard as console/PC games.
Then you are missing out cause a lot of the DS RPGs have been a lot better than the ones on the 360. And like I said before, it's not like the 360 has a whole massive amount of WRPGs and JRPGs either. It isn't the RPG king if it doesn't even have the volume.
The DS might lack in WRPGs, but the sheer number of JRPGs that it does have overwhelms the 360. Heck, the 360 doesn't even match up to last gen's RPG king, the PS2. So stop this premature false coronation when there are still many more series that haven't even made an appearance on the 360.
[QUOTE="Millennium_King"]Ermacness, I can't play how much PS3 sold, lol. I don't care. I already own all the consoles, so I just focus on the games. PS3's exclusives are looking pretty sorry. Multiplats, I weigh my options. Smooth XBL interface for online shooters or clunky PSN? No trophy support or achievements galore? I might buy SC4 for the PS3 because I have nothing else to buy for it, then I guess I wait for LBP. In between that time I will have bought about 4 360 games. It's pretty sad. ermacnessLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! so we're going to use the almighty "but the ps3 has no games" card are we now? Well, if you only like AAA games, then your 360 library must be kinda small, now i know that the ps3 doesn't have any AAA games, but we sure do have a AAAAE game, and by the way, don't say that the entire ps3 line-up is sorry, but hold NG2 and Mass Effect in high regard
The PS3 needs more games badly. What they do have, I beat already. Did I mention that the 4 games I buy for the 360 in between SC4 and LBP are all exclusives? It's really pathetic.
OK , if i have to say this ONE MORE TIME....wait, i already STRESSED that i did NOT SAY that ps3 was in BIG trouble.....are you keeping up with this conversation??? i did not say that....n/m bro....[QUOTE="ermacness"]well if you're embarrassed for me about what was said about this topic, then how should i fell about you trying to claim that the ps3 is in big trouble when clearly not only the ps3 have been on the rise before this news, but sony's show didn't even air yet. How about we wait and see what sony will have to bring to the table tomorrow shall we? If sony falls on their face, then i'll admit ownage, fair?
jazreal
EDIT: and , i also said in another thread that "DO NOT count sony or Nintendo out" that they will NOT dissapoint thier.....n/m, its useless....huh?
then why are we arguing? i thought that i was talking to millinumm king (if that's how you spell his username)LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! so we're going to use the almighty "but the ps3 has no games" card are we now? Well, if you only like AAA games, then your 360 library must be kinda small, now i know that the ps3 doesn't have any AAA games, but we sure do have a AAAAE game, and by the way, don't say that the entire ps3 line-up is sorry, but hold NG2 and Mass Effect in high regard[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Millennium_King"]Ermacness, I can't play how much PS3 sold, lol. I don't care. I already own all the consoles, so I just focus on the games. PS3's exclusives are looking pretty sorry. Multiplats, I weigh my options. Smooth XBL interface for online shooters or clunky PSN? No trophy support or achievements galore? I might buy SC4 for the PS3 because I have nothing else to buy for it, then I guess I wait for LBP. In between that time I will have bought about 4 360 games. It's pretty sad. Millennium_King
The PS3 needs more games badly. What they do have, I beat already. Did I mention that the 4 games I buy for the 360 in between SC4 and LBP are all exclusives? It's really pathetic.
but if those exclusives isn't worth talking about, then what weight do they hold?[QUOTE="jazreal"]OK , if i have to say this ONE MORE TIME....wait, i already STRESSED that i did NOT SAY that ps3 was in BIG trouble.....are you keeping up with this conversation??? i did not say that....n/m bro....[QUOTE="ermacness"]well if you're embarrassed for me about what was said about this topic, then how should i fell about you trying to claim that the ps3 is in big trouble when clearly not only the ps3 have been on the rise before this news, but sony's show didn't even air yet. How about we wait and see what sony will have to bring to the table tomorrow shall we? If sony falls on their face, then i'll admit ownage, fair?
ermacness
EDIT: and , i also said in another thread that "DO NOT count sony or Nintendo out" that they will NOT dissapoint thier.....n/m, its useless....huh?
then why are we arguing? i thought that i was talking to millinumm king (if that's how you spell his username)[QUOTE="Millennium_King"]LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! so we're going to use the almighty "but the ps3 has no games" card are we now? Well, if you only like AAA games, then your 360 library must be kinda small, now i know that the ps3 doesn't have any AAA games, but we sure do have a AAAAE game, and by the way, don't say that the entire ps3 line-up is sorry, but hold NG2 and Mass Effect in high regard[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Millennium_King"]Ermacness, I can't play how much PS3 sold, lol. I don't care. I already own all the consoles, so I just focus on the games. PS3's exclusives are looking pretty sorry. Multiplats, I weigh my options. Smooth XBL interface for online shooters or clunky PSN? No trophy support or achievements galore? I might buy SC4 for the PS3 because I have nothing else to buy for it, then I guess I wait for LBP. In between that time I will have bought about 4 360 games. It's pretty sad. ermacness
The PS3 needs more games badly. What they do have, I beat already. Did I mention that the 4 games I buy for the 360 in between SC4 and LBP are all exclusives? It's really pathetic.
but if those exclusives isn't worth talking about, then what weight do they hold?Using that logic, besides MGS4, what PS3 exclusives are worth talking about?
Protracted battle intros and other frustrations break up the pace
Some nonbattle gameplay elements are boring, pointless, or needlessly frustrating.
NielsNL
I'm assuming this was directed towards me...
So the 3 seconds battle animation before fights (featured in almost every RPG) were just too horrible?
What nonbattle gameplay elements are you referring to, specifically?
[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Rexer-i4"]too bad that it ain't going to help the 360 win 08and i have nothing else to say
jazreal
[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Millennium_King"]LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! so we're going to use the almighty "but the ps3 has no games" card are we now? Well, if you only like AAA games, then your 360 library must be kinda small, now i know that the ps3 doesn't have any AAA games, but we sure do have a AAAAE game, and by the way, don't say that the entire ps3 line-up is sorry, but hold NG2 and Mass Effect in high regard[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Millennium_King"]Ermacness, I can't play how much PS3 sold, lol. I don't care. I already own all the consoles, so I just focus on the games. PS3's exclusives are looking pretty sorry. Multiplats, I weigh my options. Smooth XBL interface for online shooters or clunky PSN? No trophy support or achievements galore? I might buy SC4 for the PS3 because I have nothing else to buy for it, then I guess I wait for LBP. In between that time I will have bought about 4 360 games. It's pretty sad. Millennium_King
The PS3 needs more games badly. What they do have, I beat already. Did I mention that the 4 games I buy for the 360 in between SC4 and LBP are all exclusives? It's really pathetic.
but if those exclusives isn't worth talking about, then what weight do they hold?Using that logic, besides MGS4, what PS3 exclusives are worth talking about?
resistance, uncharted, warhawk, (IMHO) Motorstorm (even though i know it flopped, but for a flopped title, it sure sold VERY well)[QUOTE="NielsNL"]Protracted battle intros and other frustrations break up the pace
Some nonbattle gameplay elements are boring, pointless, or needlessly frustrating.
FreddyVorhees
I'm assuming this was directed towards me...
So the 3 seconds battle animation before fights (featured in almost every RPG) were just too horrible?
What nonbattle gameplay elements are you referring to, specifically?
Don't know. Read the GS review. That's what this is from.
[QUOTE="Mr_Cumberdale"]Yup - there are many great RPGs to play! Im glad I got 360, Im a RPG fan but I knew the PS3 would suffer this gen.ermacnessLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! just because FFXlll jump ship, now all the lerms claim that the ps3 is doomed, how funny. Don't forget that the ps3 is the only console this gen, so far to have a AAAAE. So much for the ps3 is doomed right?
[QUOTE="jazreal"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Rexer-i4"]too bad that it ain't going to help the 360 win 08and i have nothing else to say
NinjaSkills247
Then you are missing out cause a lot of the DS RPGs have been a lot better than the ones on the 360. And like I said before, it's not like the 360 has a whole massive amount of WRPGs and JRPGs either. It isn't the RPG king if it doesn't even have the volume.
The DS might lack in WRPGs, but the sheer number of JRPGs that it does have overwhelms the 360. Heck, the 360 doesn't even match up to last gen's RPG king, the PS2. So stop this premature false coronation when there are still many more series that haven't even made an appearance on the 360.
Zhengi
Im not saying that the DS's JRPGs are bad, but they are going to be very restrained in terms possible features when compared to consoles. The 360 may not have a sheer volume of games in every type of RPGs, but unlike the DS and PC its not missing out entirely of certain sub genres of RPGs were as the DS currently has no worthwhile WRPG/MMORPG or the PC that is entirely missing JRPGs with the only real exception being Last Remnant(if it comes to PC). I wouldnt considered a system that cant even produce a worthwhile game in certain sub genres of RPGs the RPG king.
Also I never claimed the 360 to be the RPG king.
[QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Mr_Cumberdale"]Yup - there are many great RPGs to play! Im glad I got 360, Im a RPG fan but I knew the PS3 would suffer this gen.killab2oo5LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! just because FFXlll jump ship, now all the lerms claim that the ps3 is doomed, how funny. Don't forget that the ps3 is the only console this gen, so far to have a AAAAE. So much for the ps3 is doomed right?
[QUOTE="FreddyVorhees"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]Protracted battle intros and other frustrations break up the pace
Some nonbattle gameplay elements are boring, pointless, or needlessly frustrating.
NielsNL
I'm assuming this was directed towards me...
So the 3 seconds battle animation before fights (featured in almost every RPG) were just too horrible?
What nonbattle gameplay elements are you referring to, specifically?
Don't know. Read the GS review. That's what this is from.
You didn't even play the game, yet you say you didn't like it. Um... yeah...
[QUOTE="NinjaSkills247"][QUOTE="jazreal"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Rexer-i4"]too bad that it ain't going to help the 360 win 08and i have nothing else to say
jazreal
[QUOTE="NinjaSkills247"][QUOTE="jazreal"][QUOTE="ermacness"][QUOTE="Rexer-i4"]too bad that it ain't going to help the 360 win 08and i have nothing else to say
jazreal
Srsly. Gears 2 is the only title worth mentioning for 360 this year. Prove me wrong. E3 said it all.NinjaSkills247
Left 4 Dead and Fable 2, just to name a couple.
Srsly. Gears 2 is the only title worth mentioning for 360 this year. Prove me wrong. E3 said it all.NinjaSkills247Dude, you cant bait me into an OPINION fight....thats ALL your bringing to the table. esp since about oh, millions of peopz have diff opinions on what game THEY think is worth mentioning....this is YOUR opinion...and i wont argue or debate someones opinion....next...not next, Goodnight :P peace and Godspeed all
[QUOTE="NinjaSkills247"]Srsly. Gears 2 is the only title worth mentioning for 360 this year. Prove me wrong. E3 said it all.jazrealDude, you cant bait me into an OPINION fight....thats ALL your bringing to the table. esp since about oh, millions of peopz have diff opinions on what game THEY think is worth mentioning....this is YOUR opinion...and i wont argue or debate someones opinion....next...not next, Goodnight :P peace and Godspeed allYou obviously had nothing to say. Your post said it all. You were just trying to get out of it with your reputation. You sir have been beaten.
The 360 has what, like 2 mediocre RPGs and suddenly it's the RPG king? Hmm...Zoso-8
Most JRPGs get terrible to mediocre scores but they are still popular.
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