the ultimate xbox live experience!!!

Aww, how cute. You've gone back to simply spouting your opinions as factwithout anything to back them up. I laugh.

Verge_6

you wanna tell me p2p is better then dedicated are you serious i mean really ?........ :lol: :lol:

Xbox Live charging for P2P is kind of like...

Going into a restaurant, entering the kitchen, making yourself dinner, serving yourself, eating dinner, then paying the bill. :D

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

yup yup thats the point games with loads of players wont be shot down...

unlike the p2p xbox live oh plz i hope he has a good connection...... damn i lagg :lol:

DarkBunnie

And what kind of games get the best players? Oh, that's right, the really good ones. Shame about MGS3, which also had a load of plyers, and look what happened.^_^

Wow, you still think all of Live is laggy, even though proof that states otherwise has been posted multiple times? And you think Live players have to HOPE for a good connection, when there's a Ping scale right by the damned server? Do you know ANYTHING about Live?

yes good ping with 2 people

3rdguy join65 ping

4thguy 120 ping

5 people connection lost

...You really have NO idea how Live works. This is priceless.

no dedicated servers = wack

dedicated>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> p2p

Aww, how cute. You've gone back to simply spouting your opinions as factwithout anything to back them up. I laugh.

Uh, Dedicated Servers > P2P is fact. :D

Most companies charge for the use of dedicated servers. IE. MMORPGs. It's so nice that PSN allows dedicated servers for free.

P2P has historically been free of charge since the user is using his own connection to host. Xbox Live charges for it... :D

:lol:

also when you have mmorpg on xbox live you have to pay your xbox live fee + for the dedicated server OMG

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Aww, how cute. You've gone back to simply spouting your opinions as factwithout anything to back them up. I laugh.

legalize3

you wanna tell me p2p is better then dedicated are you serious i mean really ?........ :lol: :lol:

[QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Aww, how cute. You've gone back to simply spouting your opinions as factwithout anything to back them up. I laugh.

Verge_6

you wanna tell me p2p is better then dedicated are you serious i mean really ?........ :lol: :lol:

Oh, you mean like how these Xbox live games were taken offline after two years? :D

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/03/ea-to-remove-online-servers-for-49-games/

Would you like a napkin with that crow pie? :D

Also, P2P only has advantages over Dedicated servers if you are a software pirate, since P2P is the only way pirates can play online.

I guess that would make you a software pirate. It makes sense really. Your preference for Xbox must be because Xbox 360 is easily modded to play pirated games. Your preference for DVD must be because DVD is easily pirated.

[QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Aww, how cute. You've gone back to simply spouting your opinions as factwithout anything to back them up. I laugh.

Verge_6

you wanna tell me p2p is better then dedicated are you serious i mean really ?........ :lol: :lol:

games with loads of players wont get shot down..... your talking ps2 now im talking ps3

matter infact you can also run p2p...... 8)

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Aww, how cute. You've gone back to simply spouting your opinions as factwithout anything to back them up. I laugh.

DarkBunnie

you wanna tell me p2p is better then dedicated are you serious i mean really ?........ :lol: :lol:

Oh, you mean like how these Xbox live games were taken offline after two years? :D

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/03/ea-to-remove-online-servers-for-49-games/

Would you like a napkin with that crow pie? :D

:lol:

verge..... :lol:

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Aww, how cute. You've gone back to simply spouting your opinions as factwithout anything to back them up. I laugh.

DarkBunnie

you wanna tell me p2p is better then dedicated are you serious i mean really ?........ :lol: :lol:

Oh, you mean like how these Xbox live games were taken offline after two years? :D

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/03/ea-to-remove-online-servers-for-49-games/

Would you like a napkin with that crow pie? :D

A pity that it was EA that hosted those servers and not Microsoft. Try again.

[QUOTE="DarkBunnie"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Aww, how cute. You've gone back to simply spouting your opinions as factwithout anything to back them up. I laugh.

Verge_6

you wanna tell me p2p is better then dedicated are you serious i mean really ?........ :lol: :lol:

Oh, you mean like how these Xbox live games were taken offline after two years? :D

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/03/ea-to-remove-online-servers-for-49-games/

Would you like a napkin with that crow pie? :D

A pity that it was EA that hosted those servers and not Microsoft. Try again.

but i pay for xbox live because servers wont shot down.....:lol:

[QUOTE="DarkBunnie"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Aww, how cute. You've gone back to simply spouting your opinions as factwithout anything to back them up. I laugh.

Verge_6

you wanna tell me p2p is better then dedicated are you serious i mean really ?........ :lol: :lol:

Oh, you mean like how these Xbox live games were taken offline after two years? :D

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/03/ea-to-remove-online-servers-for-49-games/

Would you like a napkin with that crow pie? :D

A pity that it was EA that hosted those servers and not Microsoft. Try again.

Microsoft doesn't host servers. That would be dedicated servers. They use Peer 2 Peer, which makes the user host their own servers... and then charge users for doing it. :D

[QUOTE="DarkBunnie"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Aww, how cute. You've gone back to simply spouting your opinions as factwithout anything to back them up. I laugh.

legalize3

you wanna tell me p2p is better then dedicated are you serious i mean really ?........ :lol: :lol:

Oh, you mean like how these Xbox live games were taken offline after two years? :D

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/03/ea-to-remove-online-servers-for-49-games/

Would you like a napkin with that crow pie? :D

:lol:

verge..... :lol:

:lol: Legalize3 :lol:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_Live

"Online multiplayer features operating on Xbox Live do not expire and are always accessible by Xbox Live subscribers. Exceptions are online games that use Xbox Live merely as a portal to connect to external servers that are not part of Xbox Live, such as games published by Electronic Arts (which operate on EA servers instead of Xbox Live) and other games, such as MMORPGs, that require their own dedicated servers."

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="DarkBunnie"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Aww, how cute. You've gone back to simply spouting your opinions as factwithout anything to back them up. I laugh.

DarkBunnie

you wanna tell me p2p is better then dedicated are you serious i mean really ?........ :lol: :lol:

Oh, you mean like how these Xbox live games were taken offline after two years? :D

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/03/ea-to-remove-online-servers-for-49-games/

Would you like a napkin with that crow pie? :D

A pity that it was EA that hosted those servers and not Microsoft. Try again.

Microsoft doesn't host servers. That would be dedicated servers. They use Peer 2 Peer, which makes the user host their own servers... and then charge users for doing it. :D

scary aint it

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="DarkBunnie"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Aww, how cute. You've gone back to simply spouting your opinions as factwithout anything to back them up. I laugh.

legalize3

you wanna tell me p2p is better then dedicated are you serious i mean really ?........ :lol: :lol:

Oh, you mean like how these Xbox live games were taken offline after two years? :D

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/03/ea-to-remove-online-servers-for-49-games/

Would you like a napkin with that crow pie? :D

A pity that it was EA that hosted those servers and not Microsoft. Try again.

but i pay for xbox live because servers wont shot down.....:lol:

Microsoft doesn't host servers. That would be dedicated servers. They use Peer 2 Peer, which makes the user host their own servers... and then charge users for doing it. :D

DarkBunnie

You know exactly what I mean. Funny,I thought I was also paying for the loads of extra content Live has that PSN doesn't as well...

[QUOTE="DarkBunnie"]

Microsoft doesn't host servers. That would be dedicated servers. They use Peer 2 Peer, which makes the user host their own servers... and then charge users for doing it. :D

Verge_6

You know exactly what I mean. Funny,I thought I was also paying for the loads of extra content Live has that PSN doesn't as well...

like what 7 days movies ?

1 page ago you said games on xbox live never gets shot down....

well ..... :lol:

legalize3

And you stated that all of Live lags. I thought it was common sense that if a server is OWNED by a company, said server will be taken down when the company no longer has a use for it. Are you honestly telling me you thought EA didn't host their servers?

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="DarkBunnie"]

Microsoft doesn't host servers. That would be dedicated servers. They use Peer 2 Peer, which makes the user host their own servers... and then charge users for doing it. :D

legalize3

You know exactly what I mean. Funny,I thought I was also paying for the loads of extra content Live has that PSN doesn't as well...

like what 7 days movies ?

No, like loads of demos, themes, universal friends lists, the ability to talk to said friends when they're in a different game, etc. ^_^

[QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="DarkBunnie"]

Microsoft doesn't host servers. That would be dedicated servers. They use Peer 2 Peer, which makes the user host their own servers... and then charge users for doing it. :D

Verge_6

You know exactly what I mean. Funny,I thought I was also paying for the loads of extra content Live has that PSN doesn't as well...

like what 7 days movies ?

No, like loads of demos, themes, universal friends lists, the ability to talk to said friends when they're in a different game, etc. ^_^

im playing games to play not to chat ill use msn for that...

TC all you had to say was, "I hate Microsoft and the 360" short and sweet, then you can move on and play all your fantastic no lag games on PSN.

[QUOTE="legalize3"]

1 page ago you said games on xbox live never gets shot down....

well ..... :lol:

Verge_6

And you stated that all of Live lags. I thought it was common sense that if a server is OWNED by a company, said server will be taken down when the company no longer has a use for it. Are you honestly telling me you thought EA didn't host their servers?

How does that change the fact that you are still paying for the use of those servers and they got taken down? Whereas PS users use those same servers but for free? :D

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

1 page ago you said games on xbox live never gets shot down....

well ..... :lol:

DarkBunnie

And you stated that all of Live lags. I thought it was common sense that if a server is OWNED by a company, said server will be taken down when the company no longer has a use for it. Are you honestly telling me you thought EA didn't host their servers?

How does that change the fact that you are still paying for the use of those servers and they got taken down? Whereas PS users use those same servers but for free? :D

dont he wont understand

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

1 page ago you said games on xbox live never gets shot down....

well ..... :lol:

DarkBunnie

And you stated that all of Live lags. I thought it was common sense that if a server is OWNED by a company, said server will be taken down when the company no longer has a use for it. Are you honestly telling me you thought EA didn't host their servers?

How does that change the fact that you are still paying for the use of those servers and they got taken down? Whereas PS users use those same servers but for free? :D

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="DarkBunnie"]

Microsoft doesn't host servers. That would be dedicated servers. They use Peer 2 Peer, which makes the user host their own servers... and then charge users for doing it. :D

legalize3

You know exactly what I mean. Funny,I thought I was also paying for the loads of extra content Live has that PSN doesn't as well...

like what 7 days movies ?

No, like loads of demos, themes, universal friends lists, the ability to talk to said friends when they're in a different game, etc. ^_^

im playing games to play not to chat ill use msn for that...

Aaaaaaand, /thread. You just ended it. You don't care for mic support because you don't want to talk to anyone on PSN. A preference. It is an advantage that Live has, but YOU don't care for it. Live players prefer to pay and keep playing their games online after two years and be sociable and talk to people, and you prefer not to be sociable and to not pay for your server. Preferences don't equal fact.

[QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

yup yup thats the point games with loads of players wont be shot down...

unlike the p2p xbox live oh plz i hope he has a good connection...... damn i lagg :lol:

Verge_6

And what kind of games get the best players? Oh, that's right, the really good ones. Shame about MGS3, which also had a load of plyers, and look what happened.^_^

Wow, you still think all of Live is laggy, even though proof that states otherwise has been posted multiple times? And you think Live players have to HOPE for a good connection, when there's a Ping scale right by the damned server? Do you know ANYTHING about Live?

yes good ping with 2 people

3rdguy join65 ping

4thguy 120 ping

5 people connection lost

...You really have NO idea how Live works. This is priceless.

Yes it is. I just wanna keep readin what this kid has to say.

I'm constantly defending the PS3 as a 360 owner (was a cow at one point) but people like him make me say forget it. The blind fanboyism is amazing.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

1 page ago you said games on xbox live never gets shot down....

well ..... :lol:

DarkBunnie

And you stated that all of Live lags. I thought it was common sense that if a server is OWNED by a company, said server will be taken down when the company no longer has a use for it. Are you honestly telling me you thought EA didn't host their servers?

How does that change the fact that you are still paying for the use of those servers and they got taken down? Whereas PS users use those same servers but for free? :D

EA games is the only one you can find that does this, isn't it? And somehow, having one company remove its servers is somehow WORSE than having ALL servers removed after a few years, JUST because you pay less than $5 a month for the former. The mind boggles.

I see Xbox players have trouble doing math.

Perhaps they need to play more Brain Age and less Halo or Gears of War.

DarkBunnie

Ooooh, let's also not forget the fact that Sony themselves admitted Live was superior to PSN.

http://server1.megagames.com/news/show.cgi?&idtype=console&database=1361&

[QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="DarkBunnie"]

Microsoft doesn't host servers. That would be dedicated servers. They use Peer 2 Peer, which makes the user host their own servers... and then charge users for doing it. :D

Verge_6

You know exactly what I mean. Funny,I thought I was also paying for the loads of extra content Live has that PSN doesn't as well...

like what 7 days movies ?

No, like loads of demos, themes, universal friends lists, the ability to talk to said friends when they're in a different game, etc. ^_^

im playing games to play not to chat ill use msn for that...

Aaaaaaand, /thread. You just ended it. You don't care for mic support because you don't want to talk to anyone on PSN. A preference. It is an advantage that Live has, but YOU don't care for it. Live players prefer to pay and keep playing their games online after two years and be sociable and talk to people, and you prefer not to be sociable and to not pay for your server. Preferences don't equal fact.

i care about a webbrowser on my ps3 oh wait you wont care about it ofcourse

i care about a webbrowser on my ps3 oh wait you wont care about it ofcourse

legalize3

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

yup yup thats the point games with loads of players wont be shot down...

unlike the p2p xbox live oh plz i hope he has a good connection...... damn i lagg :lol:

legalize3

And what kind of games get the best players? Oh, that's right, the really good ones. Shame about MGS3, which also had a load of plyers, and look what happened.^_^

Wow, you still think all of Live is laggy, even though proof that states otherwise has been posted multiple times? And you think Live players have to HOPE for a good connection, when there's a Ping scale right by the damned server? Do you know ANYTHING about Live?

yes good ping with 2 people

3rdguy join65 ping

4thguy 120 ping

5 people connection lost

...You really have NO idea how Live works. This is priceless.

no dedicated servers = wack

dedicated>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> p2p

If that's even the slightest bit true then how come 3rd party devs tend to stay away from PS3 online? Oh and the PC uses dedicated servers and the lag that can get is more terrible than I've ever seen on live.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="legalize3"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="DarkBunnie"]

Microsoft doesn't host servers. That would be dedicated servers. They use Peer 2 Peer, which makes the user host their own servers... and then charge users for doing it. :D

legalize3

You know exactly what I mean. Funny,I thought I was also paying for the loads of extra content Live has that PSN doesn't as well...

like what 7 days movies ?

No, like loads of demos, themes, universal friends lists, the ability to talk to said friends when they're in a different game, etc. ^_^

im playing games to play not to chat ill use msn for that...

Aaaaaaand, /thread. You just ended it. You don't care for mic support because you don't want to talk to anyone on PSN. A preference. It is an advantage that Live has, but YOU don't care for it. Live players prefer to pay and keep playing their games online after two years and be sociable and talk to people, and you prefer not to be sociable and to not pay for your server. Preferences don't equal fact.

i care about a webbrowser on my ps3 oh wait you wont care about it ofcourse

I thought your playing games to play?

Oh and I'll use my laptop for that :)

[QUOTE="legalize3"]

i care about a webbrowser on my ps3 oh wait you wont care about it ofcourse

musicalmac

thats not the point

like verge said Preferences don't equal fact

he maybe cares about voice chat when playing games and a child bugging you to play another game..

i care more about a webbrowser wathching youtube and have a laugh...

its all about preferences and i wont even spend 1 cent on xbox live look at doa...... :lol: but hey atleast you can chat right ?

that dudes connection sucks ;), im guessing you yourself have never played on xbl?

p*sses over PSN tbh

mindz2004

I kinda disagree there bud. The layout and features arent as good, but the actual playing online is amazing on PSN. No lag, no host advantage. Not saying Live isnt great, but when I had DSL, I would always have lag on Live but not PSn. Now I have the 8 Comcast connection, and both run good, but I do get the occasional lag on Live. Nothing bad though. Never as bad as the video ever.