The Wii has no hidden power

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#101 miss_kitt3n
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If the Wii had any power then the Devs would have found it by now, these are professionals.
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#102 danneswegman
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even developers say developers are lazy on Wii... (factor 5)
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#103 Metroid_Time
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If the Wii had any power then the Devs would have found it by now, these are professionals.miss_kitt3n
Yes, proffessionals at making money meaning maximum profit for minimal effort.
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#104 Matmoo_Wii60
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Why do the Wii's graphic's matter? Nintendo have already stated they are not competing in the same market. If you want good graphics get a 360.
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#105 jg4xchamp
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oh my god the specs have been shown a thousand times. the wii stronger than 1st xbox. so that takes the system itself out of the equation as the problem. then its all devs. why is it well one they used modified gc dev kits to just make launch games. i mean lets get serious what dev took nintendo seriously coming in to this gen. nobody. would anyone try no. now that the wii is establishing itself more how bout you wait a liitle longer for when third party finally steps it up and start using more of the wiis power. will it be 360 no. will it be better than last gen yes. smg run 60 fps. metroid prime 3 does also. both games look really good. just relax. sheesh.
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#106 chutup
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the wii has no hidden powerBoomer_X

That's what they said about Naruto too and look how that turned out ;)
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#107 Teh_Stevz
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[QUOTE="Boomer_X"]the wii has no hidden powerchutup

That's what they said about Naruto too and look how that turned out ;)

 Teh Demon Fox! :D
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#108 martinbarker007
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Look at Tiger Woods PGA 07 for the Wii which comes out March. Don't bring up that dev's crap as an excuse

See sheep, graphics matter especially for Sport games.

Graphics matter period!!!

Imagine playing Gears of War with far cry graphics on the Wii it would be a mess and score no where near a 9.6

Boomer_X

You saying that Gears is only good game, cos its got pretty graphics? meh...
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#109 Rahnyc4
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dont middleware and other programs bring out power out of consoles? im sure most developers dont have these added middlewares to do much with the wii hardware, then again nintendo is doing a lot with the wii hardware.
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#110 lordbeck
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#111 fraz1776
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For those of you who havn't read the article yet...........

5. Resident Evil 4 was a beautiful GCN title. Rogue Squadron was doing things at launch that developers still haven't done on Wii. Why do you think that is? Are studios getting sloppy on Wii?

Julian: Yes. I'm so disappointed knowing exactly what the Wii can do -- and I still think nobody knows it better than we (no pun intended) [laughs]. I really have to say, boy, am I disappointed! They all have finally figured out, five years into the hardware's life cycle, how to do at least basic shaders and a rim light, but that's what everybody does. But I still don't see enough bump and normal-mapping, if any. I still don't see enough post effects, although you would have insane fill-rates with Wii. I don't see any of that. I was digging out Rebel Strike the other day and was looking at it, and we had some people who were visiting ask, "Why isn't anybody else doing this on Wii?" And I am at a loss. I really am.

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#112 hyruledweller
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What, so you think for some reason the wii is less powerful than the cube and cant beat a 2001 launch game. Mmmm....i think its the developers.
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#113 viralhunter
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You sheep always say the Dev's are being lazy, I want a link to where says that.

Not 1 Wii game has had better graphics than Halo CE which launched the day the Xbox came out. Why is this?

Splinter Cell DA had better graphics on the Xbox than it did on the Wii, and that systen came out in 01.

The Wii has the same architecture as the GC, so why wouldn't the Dev's know how to work with the Wii?

The Wii is a modified GC W/motion sensing capabilities.

SMG could easily be done on the 1st Xbox

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wow you must be a dev, what games have you worked on...becuase you've obviously worked with the wii hardware
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#114 Silvereign
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[QUOTE="Boomer_X"]

You sheep always say the Dev's are being lazy, I want a link to where says that.

Not 1 Wii game has had better graphics than Halo CE which launched the day the Xbox came out. Why is this?

Splinter Cell DA had better graphics on the Xbox than it did on the Wii, and that systen came out in 01.

The Wii has the same architecture as the GC, so why wouldn't the Dev's know how to work with the Wii?

The Wii is a modified GC W/motion sensing capabilities.

SMG could easily be done on the 1st Xbox

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The Wii doesn't need hidden power.



What a foolish statement. One of the key arguements among the "sheep" as how they don't want realistic graphics. They think if Zelda was done on the PS3 and 360 it would be an adventure simulation. If your Wii had 360 power the artistic presentation would look much better. Your playing against last gen A.I.  What we call predictable A.I  which follow patterns and  events.  1,000s upon 1,000s of effects could have been added to Zelda  and they don't have to be real time. Some real time features would have worked well in the game. Real time lightning storms, a nighttime generator, etc. etc.

The Wii doesn't need hidden power.  All the developers think they do. Your not getting any decent third party support compared to 360 and PS3. Meaning Nintendo is basically repeating last gen.

The Wii doesn't have to be as powerful as 360 but at least more powerful then Xbox. Nintendo  could have made Wii  half as powerful as 360 and still sold it at 250$ without a profit gain from hardware like Sony and Microsoft.  The true price of the Wii is 150$.
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#115 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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The true price of the Wii is 150$.
Silvereign

No.The true price is $250.

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#116 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Boomer_X"]

You sheep always say the Dev's are being lazy, I want a link to where says that.

Not 1 Wii game has had better graphics than Halo CE which launched the day the Xbox came out. Why is this?

Splinter Cell DA had better graphics on the Xbox than it did on the Wii, and that systen came out in 01.

The Wii has the same architecture as the GC, so why wouldn't the Dev's know how to work with the Wii?

The Wii is a modified GC W/motion sensing capabilities.

SMG could easily be done on the 1st Xbox

Silvereign
The Wii doesn't need hidden power.



What a foolish statement. One of the key arguements among the "sheep" as how they don't want realistic graphics. They think if Zelda was done on the PS3 and 360 it would be an adventure simulation. If your Wii had 360 power the artistic presentation would look much better. Your playing against last gen A.I. What we call predictable A.I which follow patterns and events. 1,000s upon 1,000s of effects could have been added to Zelda and they don't have to be real time. Some real time features would have worked well in the game. Real time lightning storms, a nighttime generator, etc. etc.

The Wii doesn't need hidden power. All the developers think they do. Your not getting any decent third party support compared to 360 and PS3. Meaning Nintendo is basically repeating last gen.

The Wii doesn't have to be as powerful as 360 but at least more powerful then Xbox. Nintendo could have made Wii half as powerful as 360 and still sold it at 250$ without a profit gain from hardware like Sony and Microsoft. The true price of the Wii is 150$.

Though selling the hardware without profit sounds less admirable than selling it for a profit. I think sheep want realistic graphics, but don't need it. Isn't the lack of 3rd party support there because of misjudging the Wii's success? I have heard a lot of devs state publicly they are very eager to develop for the Wii. I think its direction illustrates the Wii doesn't need a hidden power, or online even, to be successful.
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#117 freeload
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Metroid Prime 3 looks better than Halo 2.VGobbsesser

I disagree and I am a SHEEP. I have also seen both in real life, unlike most people who are commenting, although it was an earlier build of Metroid but still.

Anyone who says Metroid on Wii looks better than Halo 2 on Xbox, based on currently existing media, is just being a fanboy or prefers the actual art style/look of Metroid.

IMO Halo 2 is showing of better graphics (bump mapping, dynamic lighting etc) than Metroid and in fact a better design/style too.

Although each to their own...

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#118 HelloJon
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The wii's hidden power is a young child's imagination. Now what is more powerful than that?
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#119 haols
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You sheep always say the Dev's are being lazy, I want a link to where says that,

Boomer_X
Yea, like there would exist a page in Wikipedia describing what a lazy dev is. Or could you imagine EA put up a statement on their site saying "We are very lazy devs, we don't make games on time and we hate to give our customers support. . . " Very likely to exist indeed. . .
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#120 freeload
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You sheep always say the Dev's are being lazy, I want a link to where says that.

Not 1 Wii game has had better graphics than Halo CE which launched the day the Xbox came out. Why is this?

Splinter Cell DA had better graphics on the Xbox than it did on the Wii, and that systen came out in 01.

The Wii has the same architecture as the GC, so why wouldn't the Dev's know how to work with the Wii?

The Wii is a modified GC W/motion sensing capabilities.

SMG could easily be done on the 1st Xbox

Boomer_X

I think the main point is that right now all we are really seeing on the Wii is either party style games, which by their very nature don't focus on pushing the graphics much, or PS2 games that have been adapted to work with the Wiimote. Most of the new games that are coming out for Wii are also coming to the PS2 and it is clear that developers have created the games with the PS2 as the target platform for specs and then just added Wiimote support.

I think eventually the Wii will show of graphics that look as good as the best Xbox games and maybe even a little better, once developers start making Wii exclusives that really take advantage of the machines unique capabilities and features including it's graphics capabilities, but for now most of the games on Wii do look rather pants.

I would personally say that a lot of the crap that we are seeing on Wii is indeed due to developers being too lazy to actually make games specfically for Wii that acutally take advantage of the Wii's full power and it's strenghs in terms of graphics...