The Wii has the best BC of this gen

The 360 uses software emulation, so some games are not compatible.

The PS3 cut PS2 BC so they could cut costs. (It still has PS1 BC)

The Wii has complete GameCube BC, in addition to the Virtual Console, which has games from at least 4 systems.

Thus, the Wii has the best Backwards compatibility :P

PC has best IMO ;) Anyway having backward compatibility dosn't make it good, a great console shouldn't need it as you'll spend all you're time playing the new games ;)markop2003

I do admit, the PC has BC for games from like, 15 years ago :P

BC is nice to have, though, since games from last gen get cheaper after a more current system comes out. You get a chance to play all the great games you missed out on, for cheap.

PC has best IMO ;) Anyway having backward compatibility dosn't make it good, a great console shouldn't need it as you'll spend all you're time playing the new games ;)markop2003

However if those new games are truly great you will be wanting to be playing them ten years from now.

Anyways TC is correct, I thought this was the one true advantage PS2 had over GC. I always had wished Nintendo made all their system fully BC.

[QUOTE="markop2003"]PC has best IMO ;) Anyway having backward compatibility dosn't make it good, a great console shouldn't need it as you'll spend all you're time playing the new games ;)DaBrainz

However if those new games are truly great you will be wanting to be playing them ten years from now.

Anyways TC is correct, I thought this was the one true advantage PS2 had over GC. I always had wished Nintendo made all their system fully BC.

I've actually thought several times what it would be like to have a system that supports discs and 3 types of cartridges :P What a monster that thing would be :P

WRONG, 20gb/60gb/80gb(most games atleast) ps3 BC over allkidcool189

But sony saw fit to remove that feature, it's not available on ANY model currently in production, only the discontinued ones.

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]

[QUOTE="markop2003"]PC has best IMO ;) Anyway having backward compatibility dosn't make it good, a great console shouldn't need it as you'll spend all you're time playing the new games ;)bionisam

However if those new games are truly great you will be wanting to be playing them ten years from now.

Anyways TC is correct, I thought this was the one true advantage PS2 had over GC. I always had wished Nintendo made all their system fully BC.

I've actually thought several times what it would be like to have a system that supports discs and 3 types of cartridges :P What a monster that thing would be :P

No matter how ugly it would be I would love it all over. Smootch smootch ugly Nintendo BC monster.

the really nice thing about Wii's BC is that it cleans up my living room.

the NES, SNES and, to a lesser extent, the N64 can be shelved most of the time, because a lot of the games I really want to play are available on the Wii.

And I went with the PS2 last gen, so I can play every GC game on my Wii, including the Metroid series and Zelda.

WRONG, 20gb/60gb/80gb(most games atleast) ps3 BC over allkidcool189

Only the 20GB, 60GB, 40GB(Limited BC) and 80GB MGS4(Limited as well) had BC, NONE are being manufactured any more.

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]WRONG, 20gb/60gb/80gb(most games atleast) ps3 BC over allNagidar

Only the 20GB, 60GB, 40GB(Limited BC) and 80GB MGS4(Limited as well) had BC, NONE are being manufactured any more.

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]WRONG, 20gb/60gb/80gb(most games atleast) ps3 BC over allkidcool189

Only the 20GB, 60GB, 40GB(Limited BC) and 80GB MGS4(Limited as well) had BC, NONE are being manufactured any more.

No, you're not listening, I said the 80GB MGS4 PS3 had limited BC with PS2 games, the normal 80GB PS3 DOES NOT.

[QUOTE="markop2003"]PC has best IMO ;) Anyway having backward compatibility dosn't make it good, a great console shouldn't need it as you'll spend all you're time playing the new games ;)surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="Nagidar"]

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]WRONG, 20gb/60gb/80gb(most games atleast) ps3 BC over allkidcool189

Only the 20GB, 60GB, 40GB(Limited BC) and 80GB MGS4(Limited as well) had BC, NONE are being manufactured any more.

Here's a nice chart from Wikipedia that explains it well. There's both a discontinued 80gb, and one still being made :P Kind of confusing, huh?

Yep, that's true. Though, Nintendo had a pretty easy time pulling it off seeing as the hardware is basically GC hardware ;) .Shafftehr

Oh snap! Is that a dig about the Wii being a glorified GameCube there?

So clever! I tell ya, that joke NEVER gets old.

Got any Ace Ventura humour for us while you're at it?

Seriously, I loled.

[QUOTE="kidcool189"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

Only the 20GB, 60GB, 40GB(Limited BC) and 80GB MGS4(Limited as well) had BC, NONE are being manufactured any more.

Nagidar

No, you're not listening, I said the 80GB MGS4 PS3 had limited BC with PS2 games, the normal 80GB PS3 DOES NOT.

[QUOTE="kidcool189"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]

Only the 20GB, 60GB, 40GB(Limited BC) and 80GB MGS4(Limited as well) had BC, NONE are being manufactured any more.

bionisam

Here's a nice chart from Wikipedia that explains it well. There's both a discontinued 80gb, and one still being made :P Kind of confusing, huh?

Hmm, I thought there was a 40GB model that had some PS2 BC, guess not.

EDIT: I know why I got confused, the current 80GB model is the 40GB with a larger HDD, dunno how I got that mixed up.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="markop2003"]PC has best IMO ;) Anyway having backward compatibility dosn't make it good, a great console shouldn't need it as you'll spend all you're time playing the new games ;)AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="markop2003"]PC has best IMO ;) Anyway having backward compatibility dosn't make it good, a great console shouldn't need it as you'll spend all you're time playing the new games ;)AdrianWerner

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]Yep, that's true. Though, Nintendo had a pretty easy time pulling it off seeing as the hardware is basically GC hardware ;) .-starman-

Oh snap! Is that a dig about the Wii being a glorified GameCube there?

So clever! I tell ya, that joke NEVER gets old.

Got any Ace Ventura humour for us while you're at it?

Seriously, I loled.

[QUOTE="-starman-"]

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]Yep, that's true. Though, Nintendo had a pretty easy time pulling it off seeing as the hardware is basically GC hardware ;) .Shafftehr

Oh snap! Is that a dig about the Wii being a glorified GameCube there?

So clever! I tell ya, that joke NEVER gets old.

Got any Ace Ventura humour for us while you're at it?

Seriously, I loled.

Well, it's nice to know that you found humour in my post, too.

Look, the Wii jokes are false and tired. It's time everyone gets new material. Seriously.

Well, it's nice to know that you found humour in my post, too.

Look, the Wii jokes are false and tired. It's time everyone gets new material. Seriously. -starman-

And that is why it's overrated. If there is a fix for the problems that are just there, you need to track down whatever it may be. In cases like my AvP example, there simply wasn't one. PC gaming BC is fraught with chores and hassles, and sometimes just doesn't work at all. It's good, but overrated, precisely because no-one ever wants to mention all the little hitches you get to put up with to get it working in some cases...Shafftehr

Nope, it's not overrated. Most people aren't as lazy as you are. ALmost every PC game ever made can be played on modern PCs, for majority of them (almost all dos games) there are no problems if you use dosbox, the only problems come from more modern games, but even there, it can be done, sometimes you need to set up config, sometimes you need a patch and in the worst case you can just run it on dual booted OS. Does it require work? Sure. But it can be done. And really...Alien vs Predator...a game from 1999...show me Wii playing N64 games please if you're so kind.

PC BC allows you to get access to it's whole library, so it's not overrated. Of course you are a pc hater, so to you most of PC advantages will be overrated. However to any true PCgamer it's not a big problem, you often have to tweak with modern games too, so it's not that big of a problem to do the same with older ones.

[QUOTE="-starman-"]Well, it's nice to know that you found humour in my post, too.

Look, the Wii jokes are false and tired. It's time everyone gets new material. Seriously. Shafftehr

The funny thing is, I'm smiling here. I really don't care.

People throw out the word Fanboy the moment they have nothing else to say.

"OMG, you're claiming something different than me? FANBOY!"

But you do realize those jokes are ridiculous and categorically wrong, right?

I'm sure you'll have another comeback, but whatever. I think I'm done here.

Everytime someone makes a dumb Wii jokes, I'll be there to point and laugh. One would think that you would want a reaction, considering what you wrote. I guess you would prefer it if we all just nodded with approval? Why write it and then get upset when someone says something in response? I don't get it.

I still recommend new material.

[QUOTE="-starman-"]Well, it's nice to know that you found humour in my post, too.

Look, the Wii jokes are false and tired. It's time everyone gets new material. Seriously. Shafftehr

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]And that is why it's overrated. If there is a fix for the problems that are just there, you need to track down whatever it may be. In cases like my AvP example, there simply wasn't one. PC gaming BC is fraught with chores and hassles, and sometimes just doesn't work at all. It's good, but overrated, precisely because no-one ever wants to mention all the little hitches you get to put up with to get it working in some cases...AdrianWerner

Nope, it's not overrated. Most people aren't as lazy as you are. ALmost every PC game ever made can be played on modern PCs, for majority of them (almost all dos games) there are no problems if you use dosbox, the only problems come from more modern games, but even there, it can be done, sometimes you need to set up config, sometimes you need a patch and in the worst case you can just run it on dual booted OS. Does it require work? Sure. But it can be done. And really...Alien vs Predator...a game from 1999...show me Wii playing N64 games please if you're so kind.

PC BC allows you to get access to it's whole library, so it's not overrated. Of course you are a pc hater, so to you most of PC advantages will be overrated. However to any true PCgamer it's not a big problem, you often have to tweak with modern games too, so it's not that big of a problem to do the same with older ones.

[QUOTE="-starman-"]Well, it's nice to know that you found humour in my post, too.

Look, the Wii jokes are false and tired. It's time everyone gets new material. Seriously. Shafftehr

The Wii Remote alone is more hardware advancement than MS and Sony have ever put out.

two apples are hardly twice what one apple is. seeing as the wii is about twice as strong as the gamecube \me thinks youre the fanboy heresurrealnumber5

The Wii Remote alone is more hardware advancement than MS and Sony have ever put out.789shadow

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="-starman-"]Well, it's nice to know that you found humour in my post, too.

Look, the Wii jokes are false and tired. It's time everyone gets new material. Seriously. -starman-

The funny thing is, I'm smiling here. I really don't care.

People throw out the word Fanboy the moment they have nothing else to say.

"OMG, you're claiming something different than me? FANBOY!"

But you do realize those jokes are ridiculous and categorically wrong, right?

I'm sure you'll have another comeback, but whatever. I think I'm done here.

Everytime someone makes a dumb Wii jokes, I'll be there to point and laugh. One would think that you would want a reaction, considering what you wrote. I guess you would prefer it if we all just nodded with approval? Why write it and then get upset when someone says something in response? I don't get it.

I still recommend new material.

Wow, I'm shocked... A closed off, mostly wall and floor, zoomed in, show every little crappy texture, shadow, jaggy, etc etc, of Mario Sunshine VS a wide-out panorama shot of Mario Galaxy. I just can't argue with that - your point makes too much sense! And since you don't care, I don't expect to hear back from you. I will make a suggestion though, should you read this... You should hang around in more graphics comparison threads on this forum - you have already shown a clear command of many of the favorite tricks for "proving" your point in those types of threads.Shafftehr

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] i dare you to play C&C on a current game rig, the first level on easy will kill you before you click ok on the first info boxShafftehr

Wii has the best BC and the best emulation software. Virtual Console is practicaly flawlessGrinning_Demon

Lol, "tricks".

I simply grabbed the first two reasonable images I could find.

Keep grasping.

Oh, and Starman...





Wow, will you look at that! Not only do they look pretty darned close (sad for a console that's 2x as powerful) but... It pretty clearly shows, that I can post questionable screenshots to make a bogus argument.Shafftehr

ahahah, okay, now I really am laughing.

see how much better of a joke that is than your original joke?

The moment you said "most people aren't as lazy as you are" I stopped reading. I spent close to two years posting in a thread on the Nvidia forums and sending e-mails trying to get my AvP problem solved. If most people aren`t as lazy as I am, I guess most of them would have gotten a job at Nvidia and helped build the new graphics card that solved the problem.Shafftehr

At least on if it comes to worst case you can always play the game on diffrent gpu, you don't need to necessary buy one just for this game, just keep it in mind during your next upgrade. The game waited a decade, it can wait another year. I actualy went and installed AvP a moment ago and it works on my 9800gt. Is it problematic? of course, but at least it always gives you a chance to play the game you want, sometimes it will be as easy as playing modern game, sometimes it will require jumping through dozens of hoops, but you always can do it if you try hard enough. On consoles if you can't play it immiedietely, you most likely never will. Combine this with 30 years long game library, vast majority of which work on modern PCs in one way or another and I fail to see how can you describe PC BC as overrated just because you had some problems with one old game. If that's overrated then I guess consoles BC is pure garbage to you

Consoles can be more or less friendly than that based on a couple of factors.Shafftehr

Less friendly? Sure. But at the same time far more limited. Nobody is saying PC BC is without a problem, but it still supports far more old games than any console BC ever will. With modern PC I have access to 30 years of games, sometimes it can take some work to make them run, but it's 30 fricking years.

So IMO console BC is overrated, it's limited as hell in scope and even in it's limited scope it doesn't support every game. It also doesn't really offer much chances for enchancing the old games the way PC does. With such limitations I find it hilarious any console fan even tries to brag about BC

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"] The moment you said "most people aren't as lazy as you are" I stopped reading. I spent close to two years posting in a thread on the Nvidia forums and sending e-mails trying to get my AvP problem solved. If most people aren`t as lazy as I am, I guess most of them would have gotten a job at Nvidia and helped build the new graphics card that solved the problem.AdrianWerner

At least on if it comes to worst case you can always play the game on diffrent gpu, you don't need to necessary buy one just for this game, just keep it in mind during your next upgrade. The game waited a decade, it can wait another year. I actualy went and installed AvP a moment ago and it works on my 9800gt. Is it problematic? of course, but at least it always gives you a chance to play the game you want, sometimes it will be as easy as playing modern game, sometimes it will require jumping through dozens of hoops, but you always can do it if you try hard enough. On consoles if you can't play it immiedietely, you most likely never will. Combine this with 30 years long game library, vast majority of which work on modern PCs in one way or another and I fail to see how can you describe PC BC as overrated just because you had some problems with one old game. If that's overrated then I guess consoles BC is pure garbage to you