The Wii is a GC. Miyamato said so.... oh sheep ownage

[QUOTE="sHaDyCuBe321"][QUOTE="Article"]Though, fret not, Miyamoto notes that the Wii does have better graphic capabilities than the GameCube, and there will be eye candy games for the Wii.Silvereign

But by how much... There will be eye candy on the PS3 and 360 that will put Gears of war to shame.

[QUOTE="Gamer556"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

[QUOTE="ZinkOxide"]Guys, he's talking about dev tools, not performance...GundamGuy0

"The hardware is basically a GC."

Is there something I'm missing here?

Yes, context.

How could someone possibly take that out of context? It's as straightforward as it gets. When he says "hardware", he's refering to the parts inside the box, not development tools. That would be software.

How about this then? The Full quote. "The hardware is basically a GC. We've upgraded our development tools to new versions but, you can still use GC programs as they are. "

So sure he's talking hardware? When the next sentence is about development tools, and using GC programs as is...  

Yes, I am, because he says it right in the first sentence. A development tool is not a piece of metal and plastic in the box. Hardware is. He is saying that the parts of the Wii are "basically a GC", and then says that the development tools are not the same. The two statements are not related.

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="Silvereign"]

[QUOTE="sHaDyCuBe321"][QUOTE="Article"]Though, fret not, Miyamoto notes that the Wii does have better graphic capabilities than the GameCube, and there will be eye candy games for the Wii.Silvereign

But by how much... There will be eye candy on the PS3 and 360 that will put Gears of war to shame.

Do you think the people who buy the Wii think it's just as powerfull as the PS3? Doesn't seem to bother them now... what makes you think it'll bother them later.

Because the graphics gap will continue to grow. It's like N64 competing against PS2 and XBox.

Do you think the people who buy the Wii don't realize this also? It's not like the gap isn't apparent now... It's clear as day, yet people still are picking the wii over the PS3.  

[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="Gamer556"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

[QUOTE="ZinkOxide"]Guys, he's talking about dev tools, not performance...Gamer556

"The hardware is basically a GC."

Is there something I'm missing here?

Yes, context.

How could someone possibly take that out of context? It's as straightforward as it gets. When he says "hardware", he's refering to the parts inside the box, not development tools. That would be software.

How about this then? The Full quote. "The hardware is basically a GC. We've upgraded our development tools to new versions but, you can still use GC programs as they are. "

So sure he's talking hardware? When the next sentence is about development tools, and using GC programs as is...

Yes, I am, because he says it right in the first sentence. A development tool is not a piece of metal and plastic in the box. Hardware is. He is saying that the parts of the Wii are "basically a GC", and then says that the development tools are not the same. The two statements are not related.

Lol, ok. That's so right. We totaly switch gears when talking between each sentence.  Also the second sentence provides context for the first sentence. But whatever helps you sleep at night.

The two statements are not related.

 

Gamer556

Yeah, I guess that doesn't work.

[QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]Lmao Id like to see the sheep deny this 1, i dont see any possible way to deny it. Face it Wii is a gamecube with a new controlerhazbazz

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]The two statements are not related.

 

Silent_Bob32

Yeah, I guess that doesn't work.

I love Gears of War. Chainsaws are nasty.  Totaly unrelated.   

whats going on here? SOo your basically admitting you paid 250$ for a 150$ system or less but bash "Cows" when they buy a 600$ system worth 840$ or more. The logic:roll:

Silvereign

PS3 isn't worth $840.  The way it's selling is a strong indicator that it's not even worth $600. 

October, 2006 eh?

Should we also discuss the hype surrounding GeOW while we're here? 

dude... the ppl around the globe buying the wii didnt rly study anything about it... they just heard that u can play by waving ur hand back and forth and that's y they are buying itUnited_We_Fall

I thought it was because it was 250...thats why I got one...why not? 

I cannot stop laughing at the topic starter. :lol: :lol: Way to show your ignorance. :lol:

This same article has been brought up again and again, totally taken out of context and misquoted several times in SW.

Miyamoto's statement actually makes perfect sense. The Wii is 100% backwards compatible with the GameCube. What he's saying is that the development tools are also 100% backwards compatible. That's great for developers who may have had GC games in progress. They can upgrade them for the Wii with very little effort. They've taken essentially the same architecture and boosted the speed and UI.

What this means, is that Wii can do everything GC could, but also so much more.

The TC is strong on self-owning. :lol:

"Miyamoto notes that the Wii does have better graphic capabilities than the GameCube, and there will be eye candy games for the Wii."

;) 

[QUOTE="Silvereign"]

whats going on here? SOo your basically admitting you paid 250$ for a 150$ system or less but bash "Cows" when they buy a 600$ system worth 840$ or more. The logic:roll:

Iyethar

PS3 isn't worth $840.  The way it's selling is a strong indicator that it's not even worth $600. 

October, 2006 eh?

Should we also discuss the hype surrounding GeOW while we're here?

Redmoonxl2

Geow is gonna flop Resistance:FOM is gonna get a better score. 

[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]

October, 2006 eh?

Should we also discuss the hype surrounding GeOW while we're here?

jmorey01

Geow is gonna flop Resistance:FOM is gonna get a better score. 

[QUOTE="Gamer556"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="Gamer556"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]

[QUOTE="ZinkOxide"]Guys, he's talking about dev tools, not performance...GundamGuy0

"The hardware is basically a GC."

Is there something I'm missing here?

Yes, context.

How could someone possibly take that out of context? It's as straightforward as it gets. When he says "hardware", he's refering to the parts inside the box, not development tools. That would be software.

How about this then? The Full quote. "The hardware is basically a GC. We've upgraded our development tools to new versions but, you can still use GC programs as they are. "

So sure he's talking hardware? When the next sentence is about development tools, and using GC programs as is...

Yes, I am, because he says it right in the first sentence. A development tool is not a piece of metal and plastic in the box. Hardware is. He is saying that the parts of the Wii are "basically a GC", and then says that the development tools are not the same. The two statements are not related.

Lol, ok. That's so right. We totaly switch gears when talking between each sentence.  Also the second sentence provides context for the first sentence. But whatever helps you sleep at night.

I will try to break it down for you as easy as I can.

A development tool is a program that is used to create new software. It is a program, like the ones running on your computer right now. It has no physical pieces to it.

Hardware is the parts and pieces inside of a machine. When Miyamoto says "the hardware is basically a GC", he is talking about things like the GPU, CPU, and RAM. These are the physical parts that make a computer run.

If you still don't get the article, then I'm done arguing. This is getting ridiculous.

"Though, fret not, Miyamoto notes that the Wii does have better graphic capabilities than the GameCube, and there will be eye candy games for the Wii. So, it's the GameCube, but better. What's wrong with that? "

/thread

[QUOTE="jmorey01"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]

October, 2006 eh?

Should we also discuss the hype surrounding GeOW while we're here?

Jandurin

Geow is gonna flop Resistance:FOM is gonna get a better score.

:lol: 

[QUOTE="jmorey01"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]

October, 2006 eh?

Should we also discuss the hype surrounding GeOW while we're here?

Jandurin

Geow is gonna flop Resistance:FOM is gonna get a better score.

R:FOM is gonna get 9.7 it's already in the books. 

The hardware is basically a GC. We've upgraded our development

he didnt say it was a gamecube read bewteen the lines

Let's see the sheep try to get out of this one.:lol:Gamer556

That was discussed here sooooo long ago. :|Kaze_no_Mirai

[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"]That was discussed here sooooo long ago. :|Jandurin

Surely Zelda: TP will be GOTY in GS.

Surely. 

[QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"]That was discussed here sooooo long ago. :|Jandurin

If Motorstorm doesn't get AAA I'll shoot myself. 

so people did really pay an extra $250 for a re vised GC?PSP107

[QUOTE="Iyethar"][QUOTE="Silvereign"]

whats going on here? SOo your basically admitting you paid 250$ for a 150$ system or less but bash "Cows" when they buy a 600$ system worth 840$ or more. The logic:roll:

Jandurin

PS3 isn't worth $840. The way it's selling is a strong indicator that it's not even worth $600.

I see you caught the subtext.  Value is subjective, and if Nintendo is profiting from the Wii hardware while Sony takes a loss on PS3, that means that Nintendo created a machine that consumers would want to own, whereas Sony created a machine that they want consumers to own.  Nintendo's strategy is better; better for them and better for the consumer.

Let's see the sheep try to get out of this one.:lol:Gamer556

So I spend $250 for a repackage GC??? *Puts WiiSports on the GC* Oh wait, it doesn't fit!!!!!!!!!!FireEmblem_Man

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Kaze_no_Mirai"]That was discussed here sooooo long ago. :|jmorey01

If Motorstorm doesn't get AAA I'll shoot myself. 

[QUOTE="Gamer556"]Let's see the sheep try to get out of this one.:lol:Tylendal

I demand to know what I win. 

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]Let's see the sheep try to get out of this one.:lol:Redmoonxl2

I demand to know what I win. 

Will Silvereign is back to his old fanboyismhttp://wii.ign.com/articles/726/726749p1.html

This is what he said, the article you linked just changed his words

 "The machine is based on GC. We'll be upgrading the development tools, but GameCube code can be used for the most part as is"

Better Luck next time buddy.

[QUOTE="Silvereign"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="Silvereign"]

[QUOTE="sHaDyCuBe321"][QUOTE="Article"]Though, fret not, Miyamoto notes that the Wii does have better graphic capabilities than the GameCube, and there will be eye candy games for the Wii.GundamGuy0

But by how much... There will be eye candy on the PS3 and 360 that will put Gears of war to shame.

Do you think the people who buy the Wii think it's just as powerfull as the PS3? Doesn't seem to bother them now... what makes you think it'll bother them later.

Because the graphics gap will continue to grow. It's like N64 competing against PS2 and XBox.

Do you think the people who buy the Wii don't realize this also? It's not like the gap isn't apparent now... It's clear as day, yet people still are picking the wii over the PS3.

ummm no. Hence the "casual and non gamer a.k.a uneduacated gammer.. No  they don't know the gap will continue to grow. All they do know is the 250$ affordable price tag. Have you ever pulled your Mom or grandfather to the side and asked them which one they would get. They would say the Wii solely off the price tag. Right now the graphics aren't too much night and day. Yes it is significantly better but only a few stand out. Imagine Gears of War new standard for graphics and anything below that is bad. Thats wat Im trying to say. Ever played Halo 1? Big difference between that and Halo 2. 

[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]Let's see the sheep try to get out of this one.:lol:Jandurin

I demand to know what I win.

Damn you, Miyamoto! Damn you and your trickery!

"Though, fret not, Miyamoto notes that the Wii does have better graphic capabilities than the GameCube, and there will be eye candy games for the Wii. So, it's the GameCube, but better. What's wrong with that? "

/thread

anasbouzid

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"]

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Gamer556"]Let's see the sheep try to get out of this one.:lol:Redmoonxl2

I demand to know what I win.

Damn you, Miyamoto! Damn you and your trickery!

[QUOTE="anasbouzid"]

"Though, fret not, Miyamoto notes that the Wii does have better graphic capabilities than the GameCube, and there will be eye candy games for the Wii. So, it's the GameCube, but better. What's wrong with that? "

/thread

Tylendal

[QUOTE="wooooode"]That article is over 6 months old and has been brought up. But everyone knows it is very simular to the GC's architecture. That is why it will be easy to develop for.Silvereign

and thats why your games look like this...

Metroid Prime 2 for GC...

Metroid Prime 3 for Wii...

whats going on here? SOo your basically admitting you paid 250$ for a 150$ system or less but bash "Cows" when they buy a 600$ system worth 840$ or more. The logic:roll:

exactly 

http://kotaku.com/gaming/shiggy/miyamoto-on-the-wii-the-hardware-is-basically-a-gc-205086.php

discuss...... 8)

Silvereign