The Wii might turn out to be the next dreamcast

Nintendo hasn't expanded the market as much as they like to think considering that 250$ system has sold less than 9 millions not even the half of what the gamecube sold and considering that the Wii is not intended to have a long lifespan on the market I can see the imminent downfall of Nintendo looming on the horizon, a massive killer sales slump maybe or perhaps a killer blow by the competition ( 360'S Halo3 , Kz2 Ps3 , 360's Mass effect , Ps3's FFXIII,360's Forza , Ps3's GT, PsHome) lets check out the following points:

1) The System was almost maxed out at launch with zelda and will be totally done with ssbb

2) Worldwide labeled as "kid's console"

3) lacks variety on it's library

4) Does not have an appealing online service compared to Xlive and PSN

5) Most of it's franchises died long ago ( I meanthey re no longer atractive to gamers Mario, Super Smash B , Mario Party)

6) Labeled as the home of remakes

7) Considered by respected anilystsand most of Gsusers as the console thatthreats theindustry itself with it's low graphic standards and shallowgames.

8) New controller last gen Hardware that will be absolutely obsolete very Soon.

9) Along with all the Faddish qualities it lacks a decent third party support (Many 3rd party Devs make downgraded multiplats and Party games for it , very few are making big hitter projects )

I encourage you to consider the points depicted in herein and post your coments, is the Wii's self-manufactured failure imminent?

Any system can become the next Dreamcast. Whats your point?

Nintendo hasn't expanded the market as much as they like to think considering that 250$ system has sold less than 9 millions not even the half of what the gamecube sold and considering that the Wii is not intended to have a long lifespan on the market I can see the imminent downfall of Nintendo looming on the horizon, a massive killer sales slump maybe or perhaps a killer blow by the competition ( 360'S Halo3 , Kz2 Ps3 , 360's Mass effect , Ps3's FFXIII,360's Forza , Ps3's GT, PsHome) lets check out the following points:

1) The System was almost maxed out at launch with zelda and will be totally done with ssbb - No it was not. Zelda was a GC game. And games with those graphics can be awesome.

2) Worldwide labeled as "kid's console" - Not here. And if it was... There are lots of kids.

3) lacks variety on it's library - Nintendo has never released all their top franchises in one year. + 3rd party's have some great ones coming too. Like Zack and Wiki and Dewy.

4) Does not have an appealing online service compared to Xlive and PSN - The online works great. But im sure you never tried it.

5) Most of it's franchises died long ago ( I meanthey re no longer atractive to gamers Mario, Super Smash B , Mario Party) - They are everythng but dead. Still selling hell of a lot and the quality is great too.

6) Labeled as the home of remakes - Label on.

7) Considered by respected anilystsand most of Gsusers as the console thatthreats theindustry itself with it's low graphic standards and shallowgames. - Wont be noticed.

8) New controller last gen Hardware that will be absolutely obsolete very Soon. - Still working great dont know what you are talking about.

9) Along with all the Faddish qualities it lacks a decent third party support (Many 3rd party Devs make downgraded multiplats and Party games for it , very few are making big hitter projects )

I encourage you to consider the points depicted in herein and post your coments, is the Wii's self-manufactured failure imminent?

AgentA-Mi6

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My brain hurts from all the intellegence being sucked out of it by this intellegence vacuum.

There is just "fail" written all over this thread.

Nintendo hasn't even announced their games for next year. The Wii is the fastest selling console and has already over taken the 360 in sales.

Did you just say, that selling 9 million units in less than a year was a bad thing?Sir-Marwin105

Not at all but with the Wii's lifespan even those high sales migh not be enough to save it when it's hardware becomes 100% obsolete and devs quit developing for it.

DAMAGE CONTROL

AgentA-Mi6

So in other words you cant stand that people like the Wii and that it sells?

Your right, selling 10 million units in less than a year is so Dreamcast-like :roll:

[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"]Did you just say, that selling 9 million units in less than a year was a bad thing?AgentA-Mi6

Not at all but with the Wii's lifespan even those high sales migh not be enough to save it when it's hardware becomes 100% obsolete and devs quit developing for it.

i've seen articles about increasing development for the wii. where have you read otherwise? your diary?

[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"]Did you just say, that selling 9 million units in less than a year was a bad thing?AgentA-Mi6

Not at all but with the Wii's lifespan even those high sales migh not be enough to save it when it's hardware becomes 100% obsolete and devs quit developing for it.

Hear about Wii Fit? No matter how much people are hating on it, that will sell so many Wiis that it won't even be funny.

250$ system has sold less than 9 millions not even the half of what the gamecube sold

Wow.

4) Does not have an appealing online service compared to Xlive and PSN - The online works great. But im sure you never tried it.

There are what 3 games that have online after 9 months? Right now, online is anything but great.

Nintendo hasn't expanded the market as much as they like to think considering that 250$ system has sold less than 9 millions not even the half of what the gamecube sold and considering that the Wii is not intended to have a long lifespan on the market I can see the imminent downfall of Nintendo looming on the horizon, a massive killer sales slump maybe or perhaps a killer blow by the competition ( 360'S Halo3 , Kz2 Ps3 , 360's Mass effect , Ps3's FFXIII,360's Forza , Ps3's GT, PsHome) lets check out the following points:

1) The System was almost maxed out at launch with zelda and will be totally done with ssbb

2) Worldwide labeled as "kid's console"

3) lacks variety on it's library

4) Does not have an appealing online service compared to Xlive and PSN

5) Most of it's franchises died long ago ( I meanthey re no longer atractive to gamers Mario, Super Smash B , Mario Party)

6) Labeled as the home of remakes

7) Considered by respected anilystsand most of Gsusers as the console thatthreats theindustry itself with it's low graphic standards and shallowgames.

8) New controller last gen Hardware that will be absolutely obsolete very Soon.

9) Along with all the Faddish qualities it lacks a decent third party support (Many 3rd party Devs make downgraded multiplats and Party games for it , very few are making big hitter projects )

I encourage you to consider the points depicted in herein and post your coments, is the Wii's self-manufactured failure imminent?

AgentA-Mi6

bolded= things only hardcore gamers really care about. do non gamers really care if people here think the system is kiddie, gets to many ports, or is supposedly a threat to the video game industry? didnt think so.

bold/italic/underlined= random lies. how could you know that SSBB will be the last great wii game or that its controller will be obsolete? you gotta give something to back yourself up or your claims just look stupid.

Not to mention the huge step backwards it was to not design it with at least a 720p outputAgentA-Mi6

the vast majority of people with next gen consoles dont even use their HD features, so why would it matter if they wii could do 720 or not. there was a poll here today and less then 50% said they used the HD features, and this in on a gaming website.

3) lacks variety on it's library - The Wii has a platformer, an FPA, a fighter, an RTS, an RPG, a Point and Click Adventure Game, a racing game, a scuba diving game, several action titles, 2 light gun games, a surgery sim, a sandbox game, and tons more coming in 2007 alone. The Wii's library is the most diverse by FAR!

5) Most of it's franchises died long ago ( I meanthey re no longer atractive to gamers Mario, Super Smash B , Mario Party) - yea... thats why each sells like crazy and the "Big 4" are all hyped to oblivion by gamers on SW.

Those are the 2 that I had the most troubles with, the rest of your statements are opinons and have not been done by factual data collection and are completely false. I understand the online part, and a few others, but your "lables" and your "obsolete" talking is complete trash talk and is not supported by any factual data what so ever.

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Not to mention the huge step backwards it was to not design it with at least a 720p outputthe_wet_mop

the vast majority of people with next gen consoles dont even use their HD features, so why would it matter if they wii could do 720 or not. there was a poll here today and less then 50% said they used the HD features, and this in on a gaming website.

The vast majority of customers don't even care about 720p, they probably don't even know what it is.

First when the Wii came out I was interested. I wanted to see how the controls are, how the graphics are...how the system is as a whole. Well I never got a chance to buy one because I got the PS3 before the Wii lounched and I didn't had enough money to get the Wii after that. But I had the opportunity to try one of my friends' Wii. Well I played about 3hours trying out a couple of games. Man I was dissapointed. Controls where terrible, graphics where terrible. I Tried Wii sports, Wii Play, Legend of Zelda TP, TMNT, Red Steal, Mortal Kombat Armageddon, Rayman, Prince of Persia RS....and I got to tell you that all of these games where horribly bad. At least to my standards. The grphics where slightly better than on my PS2 and again...the controls...oh the terrible controls. The Wiimote doesn't respont the way you want it to be....just play the baseball game in Wii sports, the little dude will only swing in one hight. Anyways, I lookt at it closely and there is no DVD, no HD-DVD, no Blu-ray support. No hard drive and the controls work with.....AAA batteries??????!!!?????? (what a joke) To me this machine seamed like a rip off! I told my friend what I tought and he said the same thing. he said that this was a dissapointing console and a waste of money. Now he will sell it and get a PS3 insted of this worthless dated gimmick! (before Xbots go crazy, he already has a 360) I figured that this is mainly for kids and it will never run games that I enjoy, such as MGS, any kind of shooters that I like (UT3, Killzone 2, Halo3 so on) Tekken will never run on a Wii. SO what are we left with??? A Bunch of PS2 ports and trillions of Mario games. So no thanx!! Wii can go back to where it came from! What a gimmick!

So that is MY OPINION of the Wii

The vast majority of customers don't even care about 720p, they probably don't even know what it is.

umcommon

the "Big 4" are all hyped to oblivion by gamers on SW.

Big 4?

the "Big 4" are all hyped to oblivion by gamers on SW.

Big 4?

manningbowl135

Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Smash... you know, Nintendo's top 4 titles? Just like how every console has their top titles, these are Nintendo's.

Nintendo hasn't expanded the market as much as they like to think considering that 250$ system has sold less than 9 millions not even the half of what the gamecube sold and considering that the Wii is not intended to have a long lifespan on the market I can see the imminent downfall of Nintendo looming on the horizon, a massive killer sales slump maybe or perhaps a killer blow by the competition ( 360'S Halo3 , Kz2 Ps3 , 360's Mass effect , Ps3's FFXIII,360's Forza , Ps3's GT, PsHome) lets check out the following points:

1) The System was almost maxed out at launch with zelda and will be totally done with ssbb

2) Worldwide labeled as "kid's console"

3) lacks variety on it's library

4) Does not have an appealing online service compared to Xlive and PSN

5) Most of it's franchises died long ago ( I meanthey re no longer atractive to gamers Mario, Super Smash B , Mario Party)

6) Labeled as the home of remakes

7) Considered by respected anilystsand most of Gsusers as the console thatthreats theindustry itself with it's low graphic standards and shallowgames.

8) New controller last gen Hardware that will be absolutely obsolete very Soon.

9) Along with all the Faddish qualities it lacks a decent third party support (Many 3rd party Devs make downgraded multiplats and Party games for it , very few are making big hitter projects )

I encourage you to consider the points depicted in herein and post your coments, is the Wii's self-manufactured failure imminent?AgentA-Mi6

as for the other points,

1. You make it sound like there will be nothing comming out for the wii after SSBB. Do you think nothing new is going to be announced?
2. Nintendo is working to lose that, and i think it's working. Alot of older people are getting Wii's.
3. It has about as much variety as any other console.
4. I'll give you the online
5. I don't understand what you mean by the franchises died long ago. Alot of people are looking forward to SMG and MP3
6. How many ermakes have there been? 3 or 3? It's not a problem. The remakes are good, anyway.
7. "Respected analysts" can be wrong. And they are alot. Remember analysts saying the psp would kill the ds? THe industry is in no danger of collapsing.
8. It's not last gen hardware. This is the same old tired excuse, which is false.
9. as sales grow, 3rd parties have been moving support over to it. And it is getting 3rd party games.

:lol:

the best selling console in the world is the next dreamcast. holy crap that's a new level of stupidity!!!!!

[QUOTE="manningbowl135"]

the "Big 4" are all hyped to oblivion by gamers on SW.

Big 4?

kansasdude2009

Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Smash... you know, Nintendo's top 4 titles? Just like how every console has their top titles, these are Nintendo's.

He was talking about the Wii. Are you talking about this holiday season or overall Wii franchises? Because this holiday Zelda isn't coming out for the Wii.

:lol:

the best selling console in the world is the next dreamcast. holy crap that's a new level of stupidity!!!!!

bulletmath

[QUOTE="umcommon"]

The vast majority of customers don't even care about 720p, they probably don't even know what it is.

nintendofreak_2

Someone here obviously doesn't know jack **** about gaming history. Not only are most of those reasons you posted false, they're also are not even CLOSE to the reason dreamcast died.

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"]Did you just say, that selling 9 million units in less than a year was a bad thing?Sir-Marwin105

Not at all but with the Wii's lifespan even those high sales migh not be enough to save it when it's hardware becomes 100% obsolete and devs quit developing for it.

Hear about Wii Fit? No matter how much people are hating on it, that will sell so many Wiis that it won't even be funny.

i've already told a few mother's and they are like yeah and i want one, then when i tell them it not out yes, it's unhappy faces.

1. Theres tons of great games coming this year
2. Online games are coming (DBZ, Ghost squad, SSBB, Mario & Sonic, Fifa etc.)
3. It has sold 9 million in less than ten months
4. There are great games available right now
5. Its Kicking the Ps3 and 360 A$$

He might actually be on to something!

Both consoles are white

Both have a power button

Both have a sonic the hedgehog game

Both have Japanese developers

Run for the hills the second coming of the dreamcast has arrived!!

1. Theres tons of great games coming this year
2. Online games are coming (DBZ, Ghost squad, SSBB, Mario & Sonic, Fifa etc.)
3. It has sold 9 million in less than ten months
4. There are great games available right now
5. Its Kicking the Ps3 and 360 A$$

SuperMario_46

He might actually be on to something!

Both consoles are white

Both have a power button

Both have a sonic the hedgehog game

Both have Japanese developers

Run for the hills the second coming of the dreamcast has arrived!!

ic3freeze2

Both us disc drives, both have online functionality, both are played with a controller :o

the similarities are staggering!

[QUOTE="SuperMario_46"]

1. Theres tons of great games coming this year
2. Online games are coming (DBZ, Ghost squad, SSBB, Mario & Sonic, Fifa etc.)
3. It has sold 9 million in less than ten months
4. There are great games available right now
5. Its Kicking the Ps3 and 360 A$$

Sir-Marwin105

NBA Live 08, GH3, and Mario Kart will also be online.

Mario Strikers Charged and Madden 08 are online now too.

I'm not even gonna try, thread already pwnd

[QUOTE="SuperMario_46"]

1. Theres tons of great games coming this year
2. Online games are coming (DBZ, Ghost squad, SSBB, Mario & Sonic, Fifa etc.)
3. It has sold 9 million in less than ten months
4. There are great games available right now
5. Its Kicking the Ps3 and 360 A$$

Sir-Marwin105

Only on the wii ;)