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#101 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="-Oath"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Yup, the Wii is the new PS2...minus good games :?Bigboi500

No, minus the INCREDIBLE library the PS2 had. The Wiis library is good at best.... for now ;)

Exactly. Fanboys need to acknowledge that the Wii does have SOME good games atleast, but seeing as how most of the bashers don't own one they wouldn't know that. Instead they go by SW for info on Wii games. :? how messed up is that?

Thats what I meant :p I didnt mean it literally didnt have ANY good games, I just meant that compared to the PS2, or any other console, the Wii has a suprisingly low amount of good games.
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#102 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="big_orc"]

Right...........

With its amazing games, such as

-snorlax-

Even the ps2 had its lemons.

Not like this though

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#104 Animal-Mother
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Big boi tell me, did the PS2 try to market to BABIES? In the slightest sense?

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#105 II_Seraphim_II
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Big boi tell me, did the PS2 try to market to BABIES? In the slightest sense?

Animal-Mother
Yeah I gotta agree with Animal-Mother here. Wii is far worse than the PS2 when it comes to shovelware and just whoring itself out. And Animal, did you change your avatar?
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#106 Bigboi500
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Big boi tell me, did the PS2 try to market to BABIES? In the slightest sense?

Animal-Mother

The point is who would buy those games anyways? Neither one represents their respective systems games.

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#107 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Big boi tell me, did the PS2 try to market to BABIES? In the slightest sense?

Bigboi500

The point is who would buy those games anyways? Neither one represents their respective systems games.

Atleast MotorCross Mania looks sort of interesting. Like Road Rash Motorcross edition or something. But Party Babyz? Honestly? really? seriously?
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#108 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Big boi tell me, did the PS2 try to market to BABIES? In the slightest sense?

II_Seraphim_II

The point is who would buy those games anyways? Neither one represents their respective systems games.

Atleast MotorCross Mania looks sort of interesting. Like Road Rash Motorcross edition or something. But Party Babyz? Honestly? really? seriously?

Like I said no knowledgeable gamer plays the crap so talking about that stuff is fail to begin with.

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#109 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Big boi tell me, did the PS2 try to market to BABIES? In the slightest sense?

II_Seraphim_II
Yeah I gotta agree with Animal-Mother here. Wii is far worse than the PS2 when it comes to shovelware and just whoring itself out. And Animal, did you change your avatar?

Yes Yes I did , thought it was time for something fresh
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#110 -snorlax-
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[QUOTE="-snorlax-"][QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"] Hmm... where are these games then? Its may already, where are they? I've not seen a single Wii game this year that really gets me exited bar LKS.

madsnakehhh

LKS is shovelware imo, but Conduit is an example of high quality exclusives coming out for the Wii.

OK, here is where i said, "This thread has to be a joke for TC own sake" Do you even know the meaning of shovelware, and this is comming from a proud Wii owner.

Harcor3 game: commercially successful, mature content Shovelware: panders to children, sales flop
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#111 PSdual_wielder
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The wii still doesn't have the games. And if you want to bring out the just wait statement, ok I'll wait and see if it actually happens. Right now it hasn't though.

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#112 Lionheart08
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In sales yes. In an overall library, hell no. The Wii has a solid lineup, with one of the best games of the generation, but the PS2 still far outshines it.

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#113 JediXMan
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The Wii's graphics and gameplay limits are the same as the PS2's. Yeah, it'll beat the PS2 for sales. But in no way can it beat the PS3. Most (90%) of Wii games don't work well, the controls suck, etc. Now, some games (that 10%) have great controls that work with the Wii. But the PS2 had an excuse for weak graphics. The Wii is too far behind in graphics and gaming limits.

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#114 metalisticpain
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There's a difference: The PS2 was filled with gems whereas the Wii isn't, it has a small selection of great titles.

Also I highly doubt the Wii will last as long as the PS2, Nintendo don't make their hardware last as long as Sony does.

But I guess business-wise, the Wii is a much bigger success.

lebanese_boy
Um what? Nintendo make the most durable hardware out of all 3.
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#115 rorskarch
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no....no, its not :|

nothing yousay will change that....

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#116 DSandPSP_owner
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[QUOTE="-snorlax-"]

Theres going to be many people who will deny this but thats okay. Its the truth. Ever since the Wiis release in 2006, it has been selling like hot cakes. It's only a matter of time b/f 3rd parties realize the potential of the Wii and ditch the HD twins altogether. I firmly believe that E3 this year will make people wonder why they didnt get one in the first place. Soon enough the Wii will have a library that will even make the PS2 green with envy.

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You're setting yourself up for a big disappointment. The reason PS2 got such a strong support, is that it captured the Hardcore and Casual market. That meant, titles which were aimed at the core market sold. The Wii is different. It captured the Casual market, and the non-gaming market. It's market don't appreciate the core games released on it, and therefore, it will -never- receive the same amount of support as the PS2. Also, The Conduit -will- suck. Go buy Little King Story. That's a game -worth- supporting.

what is -with- all the dashes? there is a way to make bold text, you know.
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#117 DSandPSP_owner
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[QUOTE="-snorlax-"]

[QUOTE="big_orc"]

Right...........

With its amazing games, such as

Animal-Mother

Even the ps2 had its lemons.

Not like this though

believe it or not, the game has its audience and isn't as bad as the artwork suggests. IGN gave it a 7.5.
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#118 Syferonik  Online
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Oh it is but in a wrong way lol it has ps2 sales but where are the games? plus ps2 graphics were pretty good compared to Xbox/GC but Wii comparing to ps3/360 is kinda stupid cuz its pretty much like comparing pentium 2 to 4 :(
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#119 hrt_rulz01
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I think the PS2 was/is a better overall console package. It appeals to hardcore & casual gamers alike and arguably has the best games line-up ever. The Wii on the other hand appeals more to "family" gamers and casual gamers... AND, the PS2 is still selling well! Goes to show how popular it was/is!
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#120 M8ingSeezun
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After reading the TC's post, I couldn't help but just :lol: :lol:

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#121 Hungry_Jello
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="-snorlax-"] LKS is shovelware imo, but Conduit is an example of high quality exclusives coming out for the Wii.-snorlax-

OK, here is where i said, "This thread has to be a joke for TC own sake" Do you even know the meaning of shovelware, and this is comming from a proud Wii owner.

Harcor3 game: commercially successful, mature content Shovelware: panders to children, sells like hotcakes.

Fix'd your sentence. Shovelware sells. Ask Carnvial Games and Wii Fit.

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#122 Jekken6
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No way is the Wii better than or equal to PS2. Most of the games on Wii are terrible.

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#123 JasonDarksavior
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Theres going to be many people who will deny this but thats okay. Its the truth. Ever since the Wiis release in 2006, it has been selling like hot cakes. It's only a matter of time b/f 3rd parties realize the potential of the Wii and ditch the HD twins altogether. I firmly believe that E3 this year will make people wonder why they didnt get one in the first place. Soon enough the Wii will have a library that will even make the PS2 green with envy.

-snorlax-

Personally, I disagree. Sure it sells good, because of its low price and fun it can provide for the average family with children however, I'm sure that 3rd parties will not ditch the other two consoles as they have so much more potential, such as superior hardware, the games appeal to large audiences such as teenagers and just the fact that there are so many people still purchasing PS3 and XBOX 360 games....

But I could be wrong, as I'm not too good with facts.

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#124 intro94
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[QUOTE="-snorlax-"]

Theres going to be many people who will deny this but thats okay. Its the truth. Ever since the Wiis release in 2006, it has been selling like hot cakes. It's only a matter of time b/f 3rd parties realize the potential of the Wii and ditch the HD twins altogether. I firmly believe that E3 this year will make people wonder why they didnt get one in the first place. Soon enough the Wii will have a library that will even make the PS2 green with envy.

JasonDarksavior

Personally, I disagree. Sure it sells good, because of its low price and fun it can provide for the average family with children however, I'm sure that 3rd parties will not ditch the other two consoles as they have so much more potential, such as superior hardware, the games appeal to large audiences such as teenagers and just the fact that there are so many people still purchasing PS3 and XBOX 360 games....

But I could be wrong, as I'm not too good with facts.

nah, it provides fun to the average human being,dont split gamers and families like they were different species. I think that in many aspects ps2 had a stronger library.But counting non shovelware titles of exclusive games for wii in 2009(which are twice as last year) things are getting even and even in terms of PER year releases(comparing to good Ps2 years).Biggest wii selling titles are not the shovelware but AAA titles as MK ,although some have some luck.Is hard to match the ps2 library of games, but is fairly possible with the increasing interest.For instance, for 2 years wii had not a single rpg launch.Between november of last year and end of this one, its 7 in a single one(Arc rise phantasia, Tales of Symphonia, Tales of Graces, Phantom Brave,FF CC,FF Crystal bearers,Dragon Quest X to name confirmed ones).So 2 years(2006-2008 ) with 2 rpgs, 1 year with 7?big jump. Horror games are being more common(the grudge, Fframe..), exclusive shooters breaking in(2 confirmations so far this year)...Comparing year to year figures, the releases for wii have been increasing really fast(compare 2k7 first half, or 2k8 first half, with 2k9 first half in launch terms). Twice the amount of real games(and the shovelware titles fortunately have not increased comparatively).The overall quality has also increased.Third party companies are working as hard as they did on PS3/360 but they are lending INCREASING resources to wii development(Capcom and Square working hard on wii for instance).The consoles are already sold, they noticed, and now they are churning the games specifically for it, something they didnt foresee in the first years.In the starting years, they didnt imagine the wii to sell so much, now the base is installed, and they are redirecting strenghts, without sacrificing their PS3-360 market. This was done by shovelware publishers right from the start, but the big companies are devoting to the wii as well.In the very end, wii could really come for the most part, as its all about moneymaking in the end.Small markets only produce so much profit and this is no business to cater to niche tastes(like the Neo Geo consoles did back in the day).

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#125 LordXelNaga
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"Just wait" seems to be the hope that the Sheep cling to. We've been told for over two years now that as soon as the developers see the sales, the killer third party apps would come.
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#126 -snorlax-
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"Just wait" seems to be the hope that the Sheep cling to. We've been told for over two years now that as soon as the developers see the sales, the killer third party apps would come. LordXelNaga
It started with Couduit, HOTD, Mario Tennis and NMH 2, Red Steel 2, Ju-On is on the way. The Wii is turning heads tbh even if some people would rather turn a blind eye.
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#127 Number_1_Gamer
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"Just wait" seems to be the hope that the Sheep cling to. We've been told for over two years now that as soon as the developers see the sales, the killer third party apps would come. LordXelNaga
Wrong. "Just wait" is the mantra of the cows. They've been using it since the PS3 launched.
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#128 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="-snorlax-"][QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"]

The games are coming out this year. 2009 is the Wii's year to dominate-snorlax-
Hmm... where are these games then? Its may already, where are they? I've not seen a single Wii game this year that really gets me exited bar LKS.

LKS is shovelware imo, but Conduit is an example of high quality exclusives coming out for the Wii.

Dude, good luck in this pointless fight. If you like the Wii cool. But the PS2's history is not a figment of peoples imaginations. The Wii is a hot seller, but library wise, no comparison, imo. Ok, the games are coming you say? Then calm down and wait and watch and play these games when they come. But comparing what might be to what has passed is a little desperate, imo.
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#129 Vambran
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I belive the Xbox360 = The new PS2 in north america and the PS3 = the New PS2 in japan.

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#130 gamefan274
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I see your argument but this is different from last gen. The wii has isolated it self, the PS2 did not. The wii is aimed at a casual market. The PS2 wasn't for a long time (a # of years). The Wii has no good games. The PS2 did. So basically you're right and wrong. History only repeats itself if events re occur.
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#131 Mr_Splosher
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[QUOTE="-snorlax-"][QUOTE="lantus"]

I can say without a shred of disbelief, Wii will never be as good--in terms of games and their quality--as the PS2. You're right about sales, though, it is selling better than the PS2.

Just wait.

That's all Nintendo fanboys ever say.
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#132 Number_1_Gamer
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I see your argument but this is different from last gen. The wii has isolated it self, the PS2 did not. The wii is aimed at a casual market. The PS2 wasn't for a long time (a # of years). The Wii has no good games. The PS2 did. So basically you're right and wrong. History only repeats itself if events re occur. gamefan274
The PS2 is the most casual console ever made. Do you really think there are 135 million "hardcore gamers"? The majority of gamers are casual, which is why the PS2 sold so well.

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#133 Darkman2007
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the Wii doesnt have too much in common with the PS2

I see your point, both are mass selling consoles, but there is a difference.

the Wii took the PS2 logic, and simply took it further

the PS2 tried to appeal to both the "traditional" gaming crowd and the "younger" adults (20-40 years old), but it still resembled in its concept to more traditional consoles

the Wii tries to stretch the target demographic to a significantly "gamerless" demographic (40+) and so is totally different in concept. and as as a result its games are different from what the PS2 offered.

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#134 tbone_772
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Just to do a Comparison:

Wii Came out in 2006, its now mid-2009. It has been out for about 2 1/2 years:

PS2 AAAA-AAA games from Launch to mid-2002

AAAA
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3

AAA:
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
Grand Theft Auto 3
Tekken Tag Tournament
NFL 2k2
Twisted Metal: Black
SSX Tricky
Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec
SSX

Wii Games to now

AAA
Super Smash Bros Brawl
Super Mario Galaxy
Warioware Smooth Moves
World of Goo
No More Heroes

AAA Wii Ware:

Super Mario Bros 3

Not included is RE 4, which both consoles share, and Okami, which both consoles also share.

This is off the Gamespot "Top Games" thing- please correct if there is a mistake, but to me, the PS2 had some fantastic games in its first two years. The Wii does too, but its no comparison.

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#135 stayblazed
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[QUOTE="LordXelNaga"]"Just wait" seems to be the hope that the Sheep cling to. We've been told for over two years now that as soon as the developers see the sales, the killer third party apps would come. -snorlax-
It started with Couduit, HOTD, Mario Tennis and NMH 2, Red Steel 2, Ju-On is on the way. The Wii is turning heads tbh even if some people would rather turn a blind eye.

The Conduit looks like crap,wtf is HOTD, Mario tennis?c'mon man get real,red steel 1 was mediocre,again wtf is Ju-On?idk about you but the wii doesnt even deserve to be compared to the awesome console that is the ps2.

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#136 lebanese_boy
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Yup, the Wii is the new PS2...minus good games :?II_Seraphim_II

That pretty much sums it up.

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#137 PandaBear86
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The PS2 was superb in all genres and had lots of mature-rated titles as well as family-friendly games. The Wii on the other hand is 99% kid-oriented. There is nothing wrong with being family friendly, but if you are ONLY family friendly, thats a differnet story. You need to have variety, something the Wii does not have.

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#138 Kenny789
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I love the Wii and all but no, I don't think it's as good as the PS2 games-wise. Hell, I don't think ANY of the consoles this gen are as good as the PS2 games-wise.

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#139 metalmaggot46
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One Little Problem:

The Wii Has Almost No Good Games

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#140 pppjjj
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Lmao no just no dont even compare lmao:cry::D

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#141 creativeminded
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I can say without a shred of disbelief, Wii will never be as good--in terms of games and their quality--as the PS2. You're right about sales, though, it is selling better than the PS2.

lantus
You just made me laugh, lol. The sames side can be debated since the PS2 is such a massive success but to say the Wii will never and has not already passed the PS2 is real funny in itself hehe
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#142 darthogre
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No 3rd party support.......and you think it's the second coming of the PS2. You're joking right? What made the PS2 great was not the sales, it was the software they were able to get. So far even sheep can't deny most of the software is shovelware.
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#143 SpideR_CentS
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Wii ='sPS2 - good games

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#144 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="-snorlax-"][QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

OK, here is where i said, "This thread has to be a joke for TC own sake" Do you even know the meaning of shovelware, and this is comming from a proud Wii owner.

Hungry_Jello

Harcor3 game: commercially successful, mature content Shovelware: panders to children, sells like hotcakes.

Fix'd your sentence. Shovelware sells. Ask Carnvial Games and Wii Fit.

wait wait wait.... Wii fit is not shovelware :|
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#145 F4t4lity
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But the ps2 was a good console

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#146 GANGSTASAN
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Theres going to be many people who will deny this but thats okay. Its the truth. Ever since the Wiis release in 2006, it has been selling like hot cakes. It's only a matter of time b/f 3rd parties realize the potential of the Wii and ditch the HD twins altogether. I firmly believe that E3 this year will make people wonder why they didnt get one in the first place. Soon enough the Wii will have a library that will even make the PS2 green with envy.

-snorlax-
It's a little too late for that...
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#147 ShadowedSight
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I can sort of see it.

I mean the Wii has an excellent selection of backwards compatible GC games just like the PS2 had the PS1 games.

I agree, though, that to live up to the PS2's legacy, Nintendo has to branch out its game selection.

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#148 -Traveller-
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Considering how far we are into this gen. Wii is not the PS2 of this gen. It has the sales, it does not have the games. The library, whilst having quite a few gems, does not equal the PS2's in any shape or form.

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#149 OneShot112
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I think the 360 is this gen's new 'PS2'.

In terms of sales, the wii is a in a whole new catagory on it own

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#150 nintendo-4life
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I think the 360 is this gen's new 'PS2'.

In terms of sales, the wii is a in a whole new catagory on it own

OneShot112

nope, not even the 360 matches the PS2 in terms of games.