The Wii will fail because it has bad graphics

Many sheep say you don't need to have good graphics to have a good game, yet every great amazing game also was backed up with great amazing graphics, examples include:

• The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - Considered one of the best, if not the best, game of all time, and of course had incredible graphics.
• Metroid Prime - Praised for its atmosphere, which was due to the power of the GameCube.
• Grand Theft Auto III - The Grand Theft Auto series wasn't popular until they went to full 3D instead of bird eye's view, which was due to the PS2's power.
• Resident Evil 4 - Because of the power of the GameCube, this is the first Resident Evil (at least I think) to use fully 3-dimensional in-game graphics, of course is considered one of the best games ever.
• Halo: Combat Evolved - The most praised Xbox game had some of the best graphics when it first launched.
• Metal Gear Solid (series) - Due to its amazing graphics, it immerses people into the game like no other games.
• Final Fantasy VII - The series amazing graphics and videos got RPG's popular outside of Japan, and forever changed the console industry.

These are just a few examples of great games that are great partly due to their graphics. Of course this is not always true. The Bouncer had amazing graphics but trash gameplay, while Katamary had trash graphics but amazing gameplay. But the general rule is still the same. This is why instead of getting games like Assassin's Creed and Resident Evil 5 Wii gamers get Prince of Persia: Rival Swords and Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles. Since most of the Wii powered is realized due to the fact it's just an overclocked GameCube, don't expect games to look much better than Xbox games, and because of this expect less amazing games.

Nintendo thought they could just overclock a GameCube, add a laughable online scheme and use a primitive controller as an excuse to make it cost $249, but hopefully they fail. Sure, the Wii is a success right now, but that's only because we are transitioning from the last generation, and are still used to last generation games, however the status quo is changing and the Wii will be left in the dust. The Wii is for gimmicks like Wii Sports and WarioWare: Smooth Moves, while the Xbox 360 is for real games like Mass Effect and Halo 3.

Are you serious? Or is this a joke thread?Pangster007

I am dead serious.

[QUOTE="Pangster007"]Are you serious? Or is this a joke thread?AHUGECAT

I am dead serious.

I dont think the graphics have anything to do with the wii's failure.

indeed. i think that lends to lack of game support.  

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[QUOTE="Pangster007"]Are you serious? Or is this a joke thread?Tylendal

I am dead serious.

The consoles were not generation behinds. Could the PS2 have won with N64 graphics?

I dont think the graphics have anything to do with the wii's failure.

 

indeed. i think that lends to lack of game support.  

shadow_lord_11

And this is due to the lack of power.

[QUOTE="Pangster007"]Are you serious? Or is this a joke thread?AHUGECAT

I am dead serious.

I seriously doubt the Wii will have strong legs. It's going to be really popular for the next few months, but next year I think it's going to fall fast and hard when Xbox 360 and especially PS3 are flexing their massive next-gen muscles. People will not be interested in Wii when they can get something that has enough power to show improvement with each wave of games released.Timstuff

[QUOTE="shadow_lord_11"]

I dont think the graphics have anything to do with the wii's failure.

 

indeed. i think that lends to lack of game support.

AHUGECAT

And this is due to the lack of power.

and then i look at the nintendo DS success... this TC put no thought into his thread. graphics dont make a successful console, games do, and the ability to play many different kinds of game adds to that success. Rahnyc4

The handheld wars are totally different from the console wars, especially since most of the DS' games are pretty much MADE for handhelds, unlike PSP games. If anything, your post proves how right I am.

The Wii is trying to be like the DS console wise while the PSP tried to be like the PS2 handheld wise, and we knew how that turned out.

The DS WAS an improvement over the GBA, while the Wii is WORSE than the GameCube.

and then i look at the nintendo DS success... this TC put no thought into his thread. graphics dont make a successful console, games do, and the ability to play many different kinds of game adds to that success. Rahnyc4

I seriously doubt the Wii will have strong legs. It's going to be really popular for the next few months, but next year I think it's going to fall fast and hard when Xbox 360 and especially PS3 are flexing their massive next-gen muscles. People will not be interested in Wii when they can get something that has enough power to show improvement with each wave of games released.Timstuff

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[QUOTE="Pangster007"]Are you serious? Or is this a joke thread?Tylendal

I am dead serious.

[QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]and then i look at the nintendo DS success... this TC put no thought into his thread. graphics dont make a successful console, games do, and the ability to play many different kinds of game adds to that success. Idonomeus

Exactly, good point. The DS WAS an improvement over the GBA, while the Wii is WORSE than the GameCube.

PS1, PS2, DS all did/are doing well and were/are not the most powerful system..chicken008

[QUOTE="Idonomeus"][QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]and then i look at the nintendo DS success... this TC put no thought into his thread. graphics dont make a successful console, games do, and the ability to play many different kinds of game adds to that success. AHUGECAT

Exactly, good point. The DS WAS an improvement over the GBA, while the Wii is WORSE than the GameCube.

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[QUOTE="Idonomeus"][QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]and then i look at the nintendo DS success... this TC put no thought into his thread. graphics dont make a successful console, games do, and the ability to play many different kinds of game adds to that success. curono

Exactly, good point. The DS WAS an improvement over the GBA, while the Wii is WORSE than the GameCube.

For now? Yes. Hardly any games out look better than GC games.

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[QUOTE="curono"]Suuuuure... Like Wii is worst than GC...AHUGECAT

[QUOTE="curono"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Idonomeus"][QUOTE="Rahnyc4"]and then i look at the nintendo DS success... this TC put no thought into his thread. graphics dont make a successful console, games do, and the ability to play many different kinds of game adds to that success. AHUGECAT

Exactly, good point. The DS WAS an improvement over the GBA, while the Wii is WORSE than the GameCube.

For now? Yes. Hardly any games out look better than GC games.

AHUGECAT..... How many times do you need to be proved wrong before you shut up?? Are you trying to be the next PS3_FTW, because your doing a fine good job of it. Honstly no one cares if you think the wii will fail, so just save yourself some time and not post about it.Hockey_Slayer

LOL.... funny post. Thanks for the laugh.

Are you serious? Or is this a joke thread?Pangster007

Are you aware that you are comparing two consoles with similar graphic powerhouse, that Wii is like half a year out in the market and GC is already dead??
Second of all. Welcome to 2005 news. Wii isn´t about looks, but feels. And most games I have, even though their "mediocre scores, are great. curono

The Wii won't look much better than the GameCube and won't "feel" much better either. Most games on the Wii flop.

[QUOTE="Hockey_Slayer"]AHUGECAT..... How many times do you need to be proved wrong before you shut up?? Are you trying to be the next PS3_FTW, because your doing a fine good job of it. Honstly no one cares if you think the wii will fail, so just save yourself some time and not post about it.AHUGECAT

LOL.... funny post. Thanks for the laugh.

[QUOTE="curono"]
Are you aware that you are comparing two consoles with similar graphic powerhouse, that Wii is like half a year out in the market and GC is already dead??
Second of all. Welcome to 2005 news. Wii isn´t about looks, but feels. And most games I have, even though their "mediocre scores, are great. AHUGECAT

The Wii won't look much better than the GameCube and won't "feel" much better either. Most games on the Wii flop.

Hugecat you are obviously a fanboy so there is nothing that can be said to persuade you. You think you have logical reasons for the Wii to fail. Its makes me laugh to read your posts.

 the 360 already has the market where ps3 is trying to tread. The Wii is just simply more fun than the ps3. You honestly think graphics mean a damn thing? Remember this day .. when the ps3 fails... the 360 comes in 2nd.. and the Wii wins.

What else ya got fanboy?

[QUOTE="curono"]
Are you aware that you are comparing two consoles with similar graphic powerhouse, that Wii is like half a year out in the market and GC is already dead??
Second of all. Welcome to 2005 news. Wii isn´t about looks, but feels. And most games I have, even though their "mediocre scores, are great. AHUGECAT

The Wii won't look much better than the GameCube and won't "feel" much better either. Most games on the Wii flop.

In short...

:roll:

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[QUOTE="curono"]
Are you aware that you are comparing two consoles with similar graphic powerhouse, that Wii is like half a year out in the market and GC is already dead??
Second of all. Welcome to 2005 news. Wii isn´t about looks, but feels. And most games I have, even though their "mediocre scores, are great. Teh_Stevz

The Wii won't look much better than the GameCube and won't "feel" much better either. Most games on the Wii flop.

2 examples - one of which is something you should be doing in real life, and another which isn't as responsive as it should be.

And it could be done on the Xbox, Conker > Galaxy.

I seriously doubt the Wii will have strong legs. It's going to be really popular for the next few months, but next year I think it's going to fall fast and hard when Xbox 360 and especially PS3 are flexing their massive next-gen muscles. People will not be interested in Wii when they can get something that has enough power to show improvement with each wave of games released.Timstuff

The PS3 and Xbox 360 alreayd look far better then the Wii... and people bought it... People know what they are getting....

Also the Waves of the Wii games show improvements too.  

Hugecat you are obviously a fanboy so there is nothing that can be said to persuade you. You think you have logical reasons for the Wii to fail. Its makes me laugh to read your posts.

 the 360 already has the market where ps3 is trying to tread. The Wii is just simply more fun than the ps3. You honestly think graphics mean a damn thing? Remember this day .. when the ps3 fails... the 360 comes in 2nd.. and the Wii wins.

What else ya got fanboy?

natebayne

The Wii won't win. Sure you can bring up the DS but the DS also has conventional games like Mario Kart, New Super Mario Brothers and Castlevania to back it up. The Wii is nothing but a failed gimmick.

[QUOTE="natebayne"]

Hugecat you are obviously a fanboy so there is nothing that can be said to persuade you. You think you have logical reasons for the Wii to fail. Its makes me laugh to read your posts.

the 360 already has the market where ps3 is trying to tread. The Wii is just simply more fun than the ps3. You honestly think graphics mean a damn thing? Remember this day .. when the ps3 fails... the 360 comes in 2nd.. and the Wii wins.

What else ya got fanboy?

AHUGECAT

The Wii won't win. Sure you can bring up the DS but the DS also has conventional games like Mario Kart, New Super Mario Brothers and Castlevania to back it up. The Wii is nothing but a failed gimmick.

The Ds didn't have those games when it launched...  

You know what I think, I think that the games you mention are good because there was a lot of time and effort put into making them, largely in comparison to other games. These are the games that get pushed back release dates and it is understandable that in that time the art department would be doing something other than sitting on their hands, waiting for the rest of the game to come together. Games like this are great because they are cared for, not because they have great graphics.coreygames

Exactly, thanks for proving my point.

Many sheep say you don't need to have good graphics to have a good game, yet every great amazing game also was backed up with great amazing graphics, examples include:

• The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - Considered one of the best, if not the best, game of all time, and of course had incredible graphics.
• Metroid Prime - Praised for its atmosphere, which was due to the power of the GameCube.
• Grand Theft Auto III - The Grand Theft Auto series wasn't popular until they went to full 3D instead of bird eye's view, which was due to the PS2's power.
• Resident Evil 4 - Because of the power of the GameCube, this is the first Resident Evil (at least I think) to use fully 3-dimensional in-game graphics, of course is considered one of the best games ever.
• Halo: Combat Evolved - The most praised Xbox game had some of the best graphics when it first launched.
• Metal Gear Solid (series) - Due to its amazing graphics, it immerses people into the game like no other games.
• Final Fantasy VII - The series amazing graphics and videos got RPG's popular outside of Japan, and forever changed the console industry.

These are just a few examples of great games that are great partly due to their graphics. Of course this is not always true. The Bouncer had amazing graphics but trash gameplay, while Katamary had trash graphics but amazing gameplay. But the general rule is still the same. This is why instead of getting games like Assassin's Creed and Resident Evil 5 Wii gamers get Prince of Persia: Rival Swords and Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles. Since most of the Wii powered is realized due to the fact it's just an overclocked GameCube, don't expect games to look much better than Xbox games, and because of this expect less amazing games.

Nintendo thought they could just overclock a GameCube, add a laughable online scheme and use a primitive controller as an excuse to make it cost $249, but hopefully they fail. Sure, the Wii is a success right now, but that's only because we are transitioning from the last generation, and are still used to last generation games, however the status quo is changing and the Wii will be left in the dust. The Wii is for gimmicks like Wii Sports and WarioWare: Smooth Moves, while the Xbox 360 is for real games like Mass Effect and Halo 3.

AHUGECAT

this game sold more than 50 million copies worldwide (all versions) the living proof that gameplay >>>> graphics

[QUOTE="natebayne"]

Hugecat you are obviously a fanboy so there is nothing that can be said to persuade you. You think you have logical reasons for the Wii to fail. Its makes me laugh to read your posts.

 the 360 already has the market where ps3 is trying to tread. The Wii is just simply more fun than the ps3. You honestly think graphics mean a damn thing? Remember this day .. when the ps3 fails... the 360 comes in 2nd.. and the Wii wins.

What else ya got fanboy?

AHUGECAT

The Wii won't win. Sure you can bring up the DS but the DS also has conventional games like Mario Kart, New Super Mario Brothers and Castlevania to back it up. The Wii is nothing but a failed gimmick.

Grand Theft Auto never had amazing graphics
Metal Gear does not sell because of it's graphics
Final Fantasy VII didn't have amazing graphics either
going by your logic, Final Fantasy VIII should've sold MUCH better and should be loved much more than VII.forgot_it

Grand Theft Auto didn't become popular until it got out of bird's eye mode.

Metal Gear Solid has always had incredible graphics.

Final Fantasy VII had the best graphics for a PlayStation game then, a VIII is just as praised nearly except it suffered from hype of FFVII.

You crack me up fanboy... get over it the ps3 has already lost.

When FF comes to the 360 ... who is going to be stupid enough to buy a Ps3? well... i guess you.

this is yet another thread where instead of rebutting the threa ditself, sheep take aim at the creator so that they dont have to face the points made.

 it would be nice if they bothered to accually refute the points. which are quite valid imo.