The Xbox 360 is blatantly better than the PS3 (EDITED VERSION)
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[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]I care a lot more about trophies, they're more meaningful and fun to get. An achievement just adds points to an already long boring number, that only means you play a lot of games. A platinum trophy means you did something really great.finalstar2007
Exactly, which is why:
Trophies> achievements
Diverse library> shooter library
Free online> Payed Online
PS3> 360
:oops:
Let the agrument begin!
Trophies are not better than Achievements, they're half-assed cheap rip offs. The Xbox 360 has a VERY diverse library. It has great RPGs (Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Elder Scrolls), Shooters (Gears of War, Halo, Call of Duty), Racers (Blur, Split/Second, Burnout), Platformers (Braid, Limbo, Banjo-Kazooie), RTS' (Halo Wars), Action Adventures (Ninja Gaiden, Devil May Cry, Bayonetta), Fighters (Street Fighter, Tekken, Soulcalibur) and a hell lot of stuff that will take A LOT of time to list. The paid online service is paid due to a reason- because it's much better. PSN can't imagine to offer the diversity, features and smoothness that Xbox LIVE does. Therefore, 360 > PS3.
Just because somebody is pushing a ridiculous opinion at you or one that you do not agree with, it does not mean he is trolling, even if much of it is subjective. Sorry.:Lol:
Can't you see?
The TC is making all of you (heck, all of SW) look like fools!
siddhu33
I agree. But you're wrong.[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]
Without achievements you're playing for nothing.
Silverbond
*reads statement*
What is this I don't even...
*mind explodes*
No need for mind exploding.I agree, but you're wrong.
This essentially means that his real opinion agrees with you, but the OP he made that is contrary to his beliefs does not.
That would be an interpretation :P
[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]
Woow im having a hard time to see if your joking or being serious :P.
from what i read i found multiple mistakes so it will be listed here :oops::
- 1-Valkyria Chronicles bad? Wrong!
- 2-360 has more jrpgs? wrong
- 3-LBP a kiddy game? OMG WRONG!
:(
Unlike many people i have the luxury to play all games because i own both consoles. Ive played the VC demo and ive also played disgea 3. Those may not be bad rpgs to you but compared to those on the 360 they dont stack up. Go play lost odyssey oddysey and or TOV and tell me how VC and disgea stack up to those. People on SW make it to easy to tell that they only own one system and havnt played many gamesThats the thing. the demo imo was crap. the actual full game is amazing and hard too if you like hard games like Demon Souls ( heck Demon Souls was mush harder). ToV. im waiting for ps3 verison lol.. LO im positive its an amazing game yea but its just not worth getting a new ocnsole for 1,2 or 3 games. too much spending tbh when i need like 6 more games for this year only for ps3 and psp.
Edit: besides VC is nowlike $29. seeing how you own both consoles and get most games i dont see $29 too much so try it out :)
If your reccomending it i have no prob dropping down 30 bucks for it, but it just irritating when someone says the 360 has nothing but shooters. Now if someone were to say that shooters are a dominant genre on the 360 than thats a more realistic argument. But the 360 is just as diverse as anyother system.PC owns both.
/thread.
[QUOTE="siddhu33"]Just because somebody is pushing a ridiculous opinion at you or one that you do not agree with, it does not mean he is trolling, even if much of it is subjective. Sorry. TC already admited he is doing this for the trullz...look go in the link at the beginning of the thread:Lol:
Can't you see?
The TC is making all of you (heck, all of SW) look like fools!
Racial_Slur
GAMES:The PS3 has the better exclusive library, I agree. But that doesn't mean the 360's exclusive library sucks. It has great exclusives too. It has Gears of War 2, Halo 3, Halo 3: ODST, Halo Wars, Forza Motorsport 2, Forza Motorsport 3 and a ton of other exclusives that are widely regarded as brilliant games. Not only that, it is a known fact multiplats are always better on the 360 than the PS3. Except for maybe Final Fantasy XII and Dragon Age: Origins, all multiplatform titles are obviously better on the X360.
UPCOMING LINEUP: While the PS3 relies on exclusives to make its upcoming lineup strong, the Xbox 360 too will be getting a ton of good releases, contrary to what cows here think. Apart from multiplats like Crysis 2, Medal of Honor, Call of Duty: Black Ops and the like, it will also be getting exclusives like Forza 4, Halo: Reach, Gears of War 3, Mass Effect 3 and Fable III.
BETTER ONLINE COMMUNITY: Let's face it, people. Xbox LIVE >>>>> PSN. Many of you will say Xbox LIVE is not the better community because you have to pay for it, but it's worth it. The interface is smoother and more user-friendly, the support of third parties and and first party is very strong, XBLA exclusive games are spectacular, and games like Halo 3 simply cannot be played online on the PS3. The overall community of XBL is much better than PSN- one can never have as much fun playing on PSN as one would while using Xbox LIVE. Not only that, LIVE has great integration, and much, much, much better features than PSN.
ACHIEVEMNTS > TROHPIES:Trophies are half-baked afterthoughts. All PS3 games don't even have Trophies, while each and every Xbox 360 game ever released, and all that ever will be, HAVE to incorporate Achievements, and all of them do it quite brilliantly. Trophies are just not as interesting and fun as Achievements are. Achievements make us all wanna do stuff in game we wouldn't normally do. Trophies have never made me want to do anything like that.
BETTER THIRD PARTY SUPPORT: Developers like BioWare prefer developing their games on the 360 rather than the PS3, given the fact that the Xbox 360 is nothing but a PC, and PCs are very easy to develope games on. Not only that, as I mentioned above, multiplatform games are always better on the 360. Games like Fallout 3, Elder Scrolls IV, Bayonetta and a hell lot of other third party titles have recieved higher scores on GS AND Metacritic, and it is a generally accepted fact that... you know, multiplats are better on the 360.
Also, developers always develop their games on the 360, and then port them over to the PS3, for multiplatform releases. Which means, games are originally developed for the 360, not the PS3- just like multiplatform releases were originally developed on the PS2 last gen.
BETTER CONTROLLER: We all know it, this is the age of shooters, and the Xbox 360's controller is perfect for shooters. While playing FPS' on the 360, I don't fell the disconnect I usually do while playing shooters on the PS3. The 360 controller has better button mapping, and... it looks better (superficial, I know, but true). The PS3 controller is outdated. Dualshock 3 is same as Dualshock 3, which was the same as Dualshock. So what I am basically implying is that we have been using the same controller for three different platforms ever since the release of PSOne. That is just plain lazy on Sony's part. They need to think of something new. The Dualshock design is outdated, it has started showing it's age.
The 360 controller is also not as cramped as Dualshock 3 feels.
khoofia_pika
Lets break this down.
Games: You admitted the PS3 has the better exclusive line-up, So you already said PS3 has best games.
Also, multiplatforms are not obviously better. Experts have to break down games images and dissectgameplay video to determine which version is better now. Often the PS3 as a slight advantage (like frame rate) and 360 another (like sharpness of color).
Upcoming lineup: Again you said the PS3 "relies" on exclusives. Well that is the bloody point. The PS3 can play games the 360 can't. Though I can't say what games will be better, as I have not played them, but the PS3 seems to have the larger selection of exclusives.
Online Community: If we are talking about people the PSN community I would say is better as the average age of PS3 owners is over 20 (as in less 12 year olds), and we have the more team work shooter.
Now online network, yes the 360 has an edge. Though that is really only due to cross game chat. PSN is almost on par with XBLG, and it is a free service.
Trophies/achievements: They are almost identical, and really come down to preference. Also all current and future PS3 games will have trophies. Complaining about a few games not having them in the begging is pointless now. Also the advent of the platinumtrophies seems to set it apart from achievements (and the fact you get digital trophies.)
Third party support: Seems about equal now, with each company getting support from different 3rd parties. Sony has EA, and Microsoft has Activision.
And as of now there is no notable difference in most multiplats.
controller: all personal opinion and preference. Personally I can't stand having the secondary top triggers as primary fire. I grew up on R1= shoot, and am sticking with that.
Also most people will say the PS3 controller is better universal controller for various genres (again preference).
Though for fighter the PS3 beats the ****** out of the 360.
.
Your arguments really are not that strong.
I care a lot more about trophies, they're more meaningful and fun to get. An achievement just adds points to an already long boring number, that only means you play a lot of games. A platinum trophy means you did something really great.tomarlyn
Exactly, which is why:
Trophies> achievements
Diverse library> shooter library
Free online> Payed Online
PS3> 360
:oops:
Let the agrument begin!
Trophies are not better than Achievements, they're half-assed cheap rip offs. The Xbox 360 has a VERY diverse library. It has great RPGs (Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Elder Scrolls), Shooters (Gears of War, Halo, Call of Duty), Racers (Blur, Split/Second, Burnout), Platformers (Braid, Limbo, Banjo-Kazooie), RTS' (Halo Wars), Action Adventures (Ninja Gaiden, Devil May Cry, Bayonetta), Fighters (Street Fighter, Tekken, Soulcalibur) and a hell lot of stuff that will take A LOT of time to list. The paid online service is paid due to a reason- because it's much better. PSN can't imagine to offer the diversity, features and smoothness that Xbox LIVE does. Therefore, 360 > PS3. XBL Gold is basically a Halo subscription, the other features are extra stuffing.[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"]Exactly my point, Post-2009 games have Trophies, but what about those which were released BEFORE 2009? More like post 2008 games...Sure sounds like a lot of OPINIONS there to me. Also all PS3 games are required to have trophies after 2009.
khoofia_pika
OMG Cowspot!
Edit: :P, definatly need the edit
Lets break this down.
Games: You admitted the PS3 has the better exclusive line-up, So you already said PS3 has best games.
Also, multiplatforms are not obviously better. Experts have to break down games images and dissectgameplay video to determine which version is better now. Often the PS3 as a slight advantage (like frame rate) and 360 another (like sharpness of color).
Upcoming lineup: Again you said the PS3 "relies" on exclusives. Well that is the bloody point. The PS3 can play games the 360 can't. Though I can't say what games will be better, as I have not played them, but the PS3 seems to have the larger selection of exclusives.
Online Community: If we are talking about people the PSN community I would say is better as the average age of PS3 owners is over 20 (as in less 12 year olds), and we have the more team work shooter.
Now online network, yes the 360 has an edge. Though that is really only due to cross game chat. PSN is almost on par with XBLG, and it is a free service.
Trophies/achievements: They are almost identical, and really come down to preference. Also all current and future PS3 games will have trophies. Complaining about a few games not having them in the begging is pointless now. Also the advent of the platinumtrophies seems to set it apart from achievements (and the fact you get digital trophies.)
Third party support: Seems about equal now, with each company getting support from different 3rd parties. Sony has EA, and Microsoft has Activision.
And as of now there is no notable difference in most multiplats.
controller: all personal opinion and preference. Personally I can't stand having the secondary top triggers as primary fire. I grew up on R1= shoot, and am sticking with that.
Also most people will say the PS3 controller is better universal controller for various genres (again preference).
Though for fighter the PS3 beats the ****** out of the 360.
.
Your arguments really are not that strong.
dercoo
I don't see how having the best exclusives means having the best games. The Wii has the best exclusives this gen, does that mean it has the best games? No. The system with the best overall library has the best games, and that system is 360. I'm not just talking about exclusives or multiplats.
Get this into your head: I'm not talking about how multiplats look, rather how they play. Multiplats always play better on the 360.
The 360 will also be getting a whole lot of games that can't be played on the PS3. Maybe you very conveniently missed reading those in the OP, so let me list them out for you: Fable III, Gears of War 3, Halo: Reach, Forza Motorsport 4 and Mass Effect 3.
Sony has EA? Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, the upcoming Mass Effect 3, all were NOT/will not be on the PS3. Also, Valve hates PS3, and they rarely publish a game for it. Portal 2 and The Orange Box (which, as usual was better on the 360) are exceptions.
The rest, as you said, are all based on prefernces, so let's not argue over them.
[QUOTE="dercoo"]
Lets break this down.
Games: You admitted the PS3 has the better exclusive line-up, So you already said PS3 has best games.
Also, multiplatforms are not obviously better. Experts have to break down games images and dissectgameplay video to determine which version is better now. Often the PS3 as a slight advantage (like frame rate) and 360 another (like sharpness of color).
Upcoming lineup: Again you said the PS3 "relies" on exclusives. Well that is the bloody point. The PS3 can play games the 360 can't. Though I can't say what games will be better, as I have not played them, but the PS3 seems to have the larger selection of exclusives.
Online Community: If we are talking about people the PSN community I would say is better as the average age of PS3 owners is over 20 (as in less 12 year olds), and we have the more team work shooter.
Now online network, yes the 360 has an edge. Though that is really only due to cross game chat. PSN is almost on par with XBLG, and it is a free service.
Trophies/achievements: They are almost identical, and really come down to preference. Also all current and future PS3 games will have trophies. Complaining about a few games not having them in the begging is pointless now. Also the advent of the platinumtrophies seems to set it apart from achievements (and the fact you get digital trophies.)
Third party support: Seems about equal now, with each company getting support from different 3rd parties. Sony has EA, and Microsoft has Activision.
And as of now there is no notable difference in most multiplats.
controller: all personal opinion and preference. Personally I can't stand having the secondary top triggers as primary fire. I grew up on R1= shoot, and am sticking with that.
Also most people will say the PS3 controller is better universal controller for various genres (again preference).
Though for fighter the PS3 beats the ****** out of the 360.
.
Your arguments really are not that strong.
khoofia_pika
I don't see how having the best exclusives means having the best games. The Wii has the best exclusives this gen, does that mean it has the best games? No. The system with the best overall library has the best games, and that system is 360. I'm not just talking about exclusives or multiplats.
Get this into your head: I'm not talking about how multiplats look, rather how they play. Multiplats always play better on the 360.
The 360 will also be getting a whole lot of games that can't be played on the PS3. Maybe you very conveniently missed reading those in the OP, so let me list them out for you: Fable III, Gears of War 3, Halo: Reach, Forza Motorsport 4 and Mass Effect 3.
Sony has EA? Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, the upcoming Mass Effect 3, all were NOT/will not be on the PS3. Also, Valve hates PS3, and they rarely publish a game for it. Portal 2 and The Orange Box (which, as usual was better on the 360) are exceptions.
The rest, as you said, are all based on prefernces, so let's not argue over them.
the wii is not even close to have the best exclusives...
You mean before Trophies were even real? Some developers have gone back and patched them up with Trophies. Besides Trophies and achievements are not what make a game.[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] Exactly my point, Post-2009 games have Trophies, but what about those which were released BEFORE 2009?Silverbond
Without achievements you're playing for nothing.
I use to have that exact same quote in my signature. The dude was actually serious.[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="dercoo"]
Lets break this down.
Games: You admitted the PS3 has the better exclusive line-up, So you already said PS3 has best games.
Also, multiplatforms are not obviously better. Experts have to break down games images and dissectgameplay video to determine which version is better now. Often the PS3 as a slight advantage (like frame rate) and 360 another (like sharpness of color).
Upcoming lineup: Again you said the PS3 "relies" on exclusives. Well that is the bloody point. The PS3 can play games the 360 can't. Though I can't say what games will be better, as I have not played them, but the PS3 seems to have the larger selection of exclusives.
Online Community: If we are talking about people the PSN community I would say is better as the average age of PS3 owners is over 20 (as in less 12 year olds), and we have the more team work shooter.
Now online network, yes the 360 has an edge. Though that is really only due to cross game chat. PSN is almost on par with XBLG, and it is a free service.
Trophies/achievements: They are almost identical, and really come down to preference. Also all current and future PS3 games will have trophies. Complaining about a few games not having them in the begging is pointless now. Also the advent of the platinumtrophies seems to set it apart from achievements (and the fact you get digital trophies.)
Third party support: Seems about equal now, with each company getting support from different 3rd parties. Sony has EA, and Microsoft has Activision.
And as of now there is no notable difference in most multiplats.
controller: all personal opinion and preference. Personally I can't stand having the secondary top triggers as primary fire. I grew up on R1= shoot, and am sticking with that.
Also most people will say the PS3 controller is better universal controller for various genres (again preference).
Though for fighter the PS3 beats the ****** out of the 360.
.
Your arguments really are not that strong.
lightleggy
I don't see how having the best exclusives means having the best games. The Wii has the best exclusives this gen, does that mean it has the best games? No. The system with the best overall library has the best games, and that system is 360. I'm not just talking about exclusives or multiplats.
Get this into your head: I'm not talking about how multiplats look, rather how they play. Multiplats always play better on the 360.
The 360 will also be getting a whole lot of games that can't be played on the PS3. Maybe you very conveniently missed reading those in the OP, so let me list them out for you: Fable III, Gears of War 3, Halo: Reach, Forza Motorsport 4 and Mass Effect 3.
Sony has EA? Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, the upcoming Mass Effect 3, all were NOT/will not be on the PS3. Also, Valve hates PS3, and they rarely publish a game for it. Portal 2 and The Orange Box (which, as usual was better on the 360) are exceptions.
The rest, as you said, are all based on prefernces, so let's not argue over them.
the wii is not even close to have the best exclusives... How bout you make a poll on SW? We'll see who wins.... :( I wanted to fight some more... :cry:Yeah, I just caut a look at your other topic "the PS3 is the best console this gen".
Now I see your just doing this for the lolz/trullz.
dercoo
[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="dercoo"]
Lets break this down.
Games: You admitted the PS3 has the better exclusive line-up, So you already said PS3 has best games.
Also, multiplatforms are not obviously better. Experts have to break down games images and dissectgameplay video to determine which version is better now. Often the PS3 as a slight advantage (like frame rate) and 360 another (like sharpness of color).
Upcoming lineup: Again you said the PS3 "relies" on exclusives. Well that is the bloody point. The PS3 can play games the 360 can't. Though I can't say what games will be better, as I have not played them, but the PS3 seems to have the larger selection of exclusives.
Online Community: If we are talking about people the PSN community I would say is better as the average age of PS3 owners is over 20 (as in less 12 year olds), and we have the more team work shooter.
Now online network, yes the 360 has an edge. Though that is really only due to cross game chat. PSN is almost on par with XBLG, and it is a free service.
Trophies/achievements: They are almost identical, and really come down to preference. Also all current and future PS3 games will have trophies. Complaining about a few games not having them in the begging is pointless now. Also the advent of the platinumtrophies seems to set it apart from achievements (and the fact you get digital trophies.)
Third party support: Seems about equal now, with each company getting support from different 3rd parties. Sony has EA, and Microsoft has Activision.
And as of now there is no notable difference in most multiplats.
controller: all personal opinion and preference. Personally I can't stand having the secondary top triggers as primary fire. I grew up on R1= shoot, and am sticking with that.
Also most people will say the PS3 controller is better universal controller for various genres (again preference).
Though for fighter the PS3 beats the ****** out of the 360.
.
Your arguments really are not that strong.
lightleggy
I don't see how having the best exclusives means having the best games. The Wii has the best exclusives this gen, does that mean it has the best games? No. The system with the best overall library has the best games, and that system is 360. I'm not just talking about exclusives or multiplats.
Get this into your head: I'm not talking about how multiplats look, rather how they play. Multiplats always play better on the 360.
The 360 will also be getting a whole lot of games that can't be played on the PS3. Maybe you very conveniently missed reading those in the OP, so let me list them out for you: Fable III, Gears of War 3, Halo: Reach, Forza Motorsport 4 and Mass Effect 3.
Sony has EA? Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, the upcoming Mass Effect 3, all were NOT/will not be on the PS3. Also, Valve hates PS3, and they rarely publish a game for it. Portal 2 and The Orange Box (which, as usual was better on the 360) are exceptions.
The rest, as you said, are all based on prefernces, so let's not argue over them.
the wii is not even close to have the best exclusives... Wii: Super Mario Galaxy Super Mario Galaxy 2 Super Smash Bros Brawl New Super Mario Bros Mario Kart Wii The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Metroid Prime 3: Corruption Metroid Prime Trilogy No More Heroes No More Heroes 2 PS3: Uncharted 2 God of War III God of War Collection Killzone 2 Resistance: Fall of Man Resistance 2 Metal Gear Solid 4 And I'm only talking about major, qualitative releases.GAMES: OK, you listed 3 shooters, a huge flop, and two racing games. Also, most of the time, the only advantage the 360 has for multi-plats is minor graphical upgrades
UPCOMING LINEUP: I actually like this point. Pass.
BETTER ONLINE COMMUNITY: Sure is opinions in here.
ACHIEVEMNTS > TROHPIES: All PS3 games released now have trophies. It's no longer an option. Also, I like having a little virtual trophy rather than numbers. But again, OPNIONS.
BETTER THIRD PARTY SUPPORT: True. Pass.
BETTER CONTROLLER: Opnion
khoofia_pika
I give it a 5/10.
[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]
GAMES: OK, you listed 3 shooters, a huge flop, and two racing games. Also, most of the time, the only advantage the 360 has for multi-plats is minor graphical upgrades
UPCOMING LINEUP: I actually like this point. Pass.
BETTER ONLINE COMMUNITY: Sure is opinions in here.
ACHIEVEMNTS > TROHPIES: All PS3 games released now have trophies. It's no longer an option. Also, I like having a little virtual trophy rather than numbers. But again, OPNIONS.
BETTER THIRD PARTY SUPPORT: True. Pass.
BETTER CONTROLLER: Opnion
jman1553
I give it a 5/10.
What flop are you talking about? :? Multiplats on the 360 PLAY BETTER AS WELL. They run smoothly, have smoother textures, lesds frame rate drops, and seeing as multiplats are developed FOR the 360, it's quite understandable they wouldn't run as good on the PS3. PS3 games released before 2008 did not have trophies.Your arguments as to why Achievements> Trophies don't actually involve anything to do with the systems themselves. The second argument doesn't even make sense considering its up to the developer, not the systems. Plus, every multiplat has the same Trophies/ Achievements on each console :SIndie_HitmanGames make a system, so I wouldn't be comparing the devs, would I? I'm not talking about the Trophies/Achievements that are given out in the games. I'm talking about the Trophies/Achievements systems and how well they're implemented.
[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]the wii is not even close to have the best exclusives... How bout you make a poll on SW? We'll see who wins.I don't see how having the best exclusives means having the best games. The Wii has the best exclusives this gen, does that mean it has the best games? No. The system with the best overall library has the best games, and that system is 360. I'm not just talking about exclusives or multiplats.
Get this into your head: I'm not talking about how multiplats look, rather how they play. Multiplats always play better on the 360.
The 360 will also be getting a whole lot of games that can't be played on the PS3. Maybe you very conveniently missed reading those in the OP, so let me list them out for you: Fable III, Gears of War 3, Halo: Reach, Forza Motorsport 4 and Mass Effect 3.
Sony has EA? Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, the upcoming Mass Effect 3, all were NOT/will not be on the PS3. Also, Valve hates PS3, and they rarely publish a game for it. Portal 2 and The Orange Box (which, as usual was better on the 360) are exceptions.
The rest, as you said, are all based on prefernces, so let's not argue over them.
khoofia_pika
all heil wii shovelware...
[QUOTE="finalstar2007"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"]I care a lot more about trophies, they're more meaningful and fun to get. An achievement just adds points to an already long boring number, that only means you play a lot of games. A platinum trophy means you did something really great.khoofia_pika
Exactly, which is why:
Trophies> achievements
Diverse library> shooter library
Free online> Payed Online
PS3> 360
:oops:
Let the agrument begin!
Trophies are not better than Achievements, they're half-assed cheap rip offs. The Xbox 360 has a VERY diverse library. It has great RPGs (_______), Shooters ( Halo), Racers (Forza), Platformers (Braid, Limbo, Banjo-Kazooie), RTS' (Halo Wars), Action Adventures (_____), Fighters (_____) and a hell lot of stuff that will take A LOT of time to list. The paid online service is paid due to a reason- because it's much better. PSN can't imagine to offer the diversity, features and smoothness that Xbox LIVE does. Therefore, 360 > PS3.Took out all those pesky multiplatforms for you, TC.
[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]the wii is not even close to have the best exclusives... Wii: Super Mario Galaxy Super Mario Galaxy 2 Super Smash Bros Brawl New Super Mario Bros Mario Kart Wii The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Metroid Prime 3: Corruption Metroid Prime Trilogy No More Heroes No More Heroes 2 PS3: Uncharted 2 God of War III God of War Collection Killzone 2 Resistance: Fall of Man Resistance 2 Metal Gear Solid 4 And I'm only talking about major, qualitative releases.I don't see how having the best exclusives means having the best games. The Wii has the best exclusives this gen, does that mean it has the best games? No. The system with the best overall library has the best games, and that system is 360. I'm not just talking about exclusives or multiplats.
Get this into your head: I'm not talking about how multiplats look, rather how they play. Multiplats always play better on the 360.
The 360 will also be getting a whole lot of games that can't be played on the PS3. Maybe you very conveniently missed reading those in the OP, so let me list them out for you: Fable III, Gears of War 3, Halo: Reach, Forza Motorsport 4 and Mass Effect 3.
Sony has EA? Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, the upcoming Mass Effect 3, all were NOT/will not be on the PS3. Also, Valve hates PS3, and they rarely publish a game for it. Portal 2 and The Orange Box (which, as usual was better on the 360) are exceptions.
The rest, as you said, are all based on prefernces, so let's not argue over them.
khoofia_pika
yeah thats why you forgot heavy rain, uncharted 1 and infamous
edit: you forgot LBP as well :P
edit again: and motorstorm and mod nation racers
How bout you make a poll on SW? We'll see who wins.[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] the wii is not even close to have the best exclusives...lightleggy
all heil wii shovelware...
How convenient of you to not read my later posts. Btw, I think you meany "hail."Trophies are not better than Achievements, they're half-assed cheap rip offs. The Xbox 360 has a VERY diverse library. It has great RPGs (_______), Shooters ( Halo), Racers (Forza), Platformers (Braid, Limbo, Banjo-Kazooie), RTS' (Halo Wars), Action Adventures (_____), Fighters (_____) and a hell lot of stuff that will take A LOT of time to list. The paid online service is paid due to a reason- because it's much better. PSN can't imagine to offer the diversity, features and smoothness that Xbox LIVE does. Therefore, 360 > PS3.[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]
Exactly, which is why:
Trophies> achievements
Diverse library> shooter library
Free online> Payed Online
PS3> 360
:oops:
Let the agrument begin!
jman1553
Took out all those pesky multiplatforms for you, TC.
Since Mass Effect, ME2, Gears, and all the others you;ve removed can't be played on the PS3, I think listing them in a X360 VS PS3 argument in favour of the Xbox 360 would be fair.Wii: Super Mario Galaxy Super Mario Galaxy 2 Super Smash Bros Brawl New Super Mario Bros Mario Kart Wii The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Metroid Prime 3: Corruption Metroid Prime Trilogy No More Heroes No More Heroes 2 PS3: Uncharted 2 God of War III God of War Collection Killzone 2 Resistance: Fall of Man Resistance 2 Metal Gear Solid 4 And I'm only talking about major, qualitative releases.[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] the wii is not even close to have the best exclusives...lightleggy
yeah thats why you forgot heavy rain, uncharted 1 and infamous
Oh yeah, sorry, I knew I was forgetting something. Anyway, it is something that is widely agreed upon, even in SW aka cowland- Wii has the best exclusive library.[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] How bout you make a poll on SW? We'll see who wins. khoofia_pika
all heil wii shovelware...
How convenient of you to not read my later posts. Btw, I think you meany "hail." grammar cop I see? ich bin gramatikal NWii: Super Mario Galaxy Super Mario Galaxy 2 Super Smash Bros Brawl New Super Mario Bros Mario Kart Wii The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Metroid Prime 3: Corruption Metroid Prime Trilogy No More Heroes No More Heroes 2 PS3: Uncharted 2 God of War III God of War Collection Killzone 2 Resistance: Fall of Man Resistance 2 Metal Gear Solid 4 And I'm only talking about major, qualitative releases.[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] the wii is not even close to have the best exclusives...lightleggy
yeah thats why you forgot heavy rain, uncharted 1 and infamous
edit: you forgot LBP as well :P
edit again: and motorstorm and mod nation racers
I forgot many Wii and PS3 games, man. The basic point is that Wii has the best exclusive library. It is something that is agreed upon by almost everyone.grammar cop I see? ich bin gramatikal Nlightleggy:P I have a thing for pointing stuff like this out. :P
You mean before Trophies were even real? Some developers have gone back and patched them up with Trophies. Besides Trophies and achievements are not what make a game.[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] Exactly my point, Post-2009 games have Trophies, but what about those which were released BEFORE 2009?Silverbond
Without achievements you're playing for nothing.
Lol? People play games to have fun.[QUOTE="Silverbond"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"] You mean before Trophies were even real? Some developers have gone back and patched them up with Trophies. Besides Trophies and achievements are not what make a game. Easyle
Without achievements you're playing for nothing.
Lol? People play games to have fun. And Achievements are fun.[QUOTE="jman1553"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] Trophies are not better than Achievements, they're half-assed cheap rip offs. The Xbox 360 has a VERY diverse library. It has great RPGs (_______), Shooters ( Halo), Racers (Forza), Platformers (Braid, Limbo, Banjo-Kazooie), RTS' (Halo Wars), Action Adventures (_____), Fighters (_____) and a hell lot of stuff that will take A LOT of time to list. The paid online service is paid due to a reason- because it's much better. PSN can't imagine to offer the diversity, features and smoothness that Xbox LIVE does. Therefore, 360 > PS3.khoofia_pika
Took out all those pesky multiplatforms for you, TC.
Since Mass Effect, ME2, Gears, and all the others you;ve removed can't be played on the PS3, I think listing them in a X360 VS PS3 argument in favour of the Xbox 360 would be fair. Well it's quite obvious that PS3 gamers can play all of those. We all have high-end gaming comuters.And Achievements are fun.[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="jman1553"] Lol? People play games to have fun.jman1553
Achievements don't make the game.
Of course they don't. But they're still fun.Since Mass Effect, ME2, Gears, and all the others you;ve removed can't be played on the PS3, I think listing them in a X360 VS PS3 argument in favour of the Xbox 360 would be fair. Well it's quite obvious that PS3 gamers can play all of those. We all have high-end gaming comuters. But those games can't be played on the PS3, can they? That way, even the 360 owners can play PS3 games- by buying a PS3 and playing them. [[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="jman1553"]
Took out all those pesky multiplatforms for you, TC.
jman1553
The ps3 has been holdin down as of late the 360 has been lacking since late 08.
[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"]Your arguments as to why Achievements> Trophies don't actually involve anything to do with the systems themselves. The second argument doesn't even make sense considering its up to the developer, not the systems. Plus, every multiplat has the same Trophies/ Achievements on each console :Skhoofia_pikaGames make a system, so I wouldn't be comparing the devs, would I? I'm not talking about the Trophies/Achievements that are given out in the games. I'm talking about the Trophies/Achievements systems and how well they're implemented. Yet, in the OP, you stated that there were achievements that made you try new things but not Trophies. What these Trophies / Achievements represent is the developers responsibility. So, in actual fact, you were comparing devs. In addition, the achievements / Trophies are awarded in exactly the same way, they represent the same accompaniments - They're almost identical. The only difference is that one is level based. The ironic thing is that the Trophy system is slightly more complicated and would require more time to perfect. How then, is it the cheap knockoff? XD
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