The Xbox 360 is not selling poorly

Ms for the 1st year set their goal at 10 million. They achieved it.

Ms at the beginning of 07 stated until junish they hope to only sell 1 millionish. 

MS is a great marketer, they know what theyre doing.  They are, no doubt in my mind or the majoirty of people's, the best marketer in the entire bussiness industry. 

who the hell ever said the 360 was selling poorly?Solid-CELL

they did lower their target sales numbers by a few million, but it doesnt mean they are doing horrible. just not as good as they expected.

[QUOTE="Solid-CELL"]who the hell ever said the 360 was selling poorly?akuma303x

In some places being able to do that is a big accomplishment

IT IS SELLING AT THE SMAE RATE AS THE ORIGINAL XBOX 

IS HAS NOT SOLD 10MILL TO CONSUMERS YET VGCHARTS.ORG

IT IS SELLING AT THE SMAE RATE AS THE ORIGINAL XBOX 

IS HAS NOT SOLD 10MILL TO CONSUMERS YET VGCHARTS.ORG

winner-ps3

Everywhere I see, I see/hear people saying MS has sold 10 million. Gspot, IGN, Xplay, nextgenwars, Wikipedia.

I want one sooo bad.

I found a website where if you refer 10 people, you get one for free.  It's kinda like netwinner.  I just can't find any people to do it. 

It is selling poorly. It has not reached 10 million as of yet. It's doing horrible in Japan, somewhere around 300,000, M$ predicted it could sell 1 million the first year and failed to do so. Not doing so hot in Europe either.

It is selling poorly. It has not reached 10 million as of yet. It's doing horrible in Japan, somewhere around 300,000, M$ predicted it could sell 1 million the first year and failed to do so. Not doing so hot in Europe either.

ParasiteEveLust

Coming from a PS3 fan.  When Sony has failed to sell even 3 million consoles after 5 months.  360 is still destroying PS3 in sales.  Plus we have a lot of system selling games this year like Halo 3 and Mass Effect.

It is selling poorly. It has not reached 10 million as of yet. It's doing horrible in Japan, somewhere around 300,000, M$ predicted it could sell 1 million the first year and failed to do so. Not doing so hot in Europe either.

ParasiteEveLust

FFS PEOPLE THERE WAS AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT BY MICROSOFT SAYING THEY HAVE REACHED 10 MILLION SOLD.

MICROSOFT HAS SOLD 10 MILLION CONSOLES TO RETAILERS AS OF NOVEMBER 06. THIS Is FACT.

Ms for the 1st year set their goal at 10 million. They achieved it.

Ms at the beginning of 07 stated until junish they hope to only sell 1 millionish. 

MS is a great marketer, they know what theyre doing.  They are, no doubt in my mind or the majoirty of people's, the best marketer in the entire bussiness industry. 

Educated_Gamer

They sure are good marketers, I give them that, and also good at milking us but I will give it up to them for finally bringing good games onto there system, just wish the hardware was as good as the games, that is the only area they forgot to fix, but other then that, they have some good games coming and cant wait to play them, lets just hope my xbox 360 doesnt die on me before halo 3 comes out.

Considering that it is $400 , I would say it is doing pretty good so far but not great. If it was doing better I would assume that they are gaining fans from people who had the gamecube or ps2 but that doesn't seem to be the case yet. Nintendo fans seem to be going Wii crazy right now and Sony fans seem to be content with their ps2s for the time being.

IT IS SELLING AT THE SMAE RATE AS THE ORIGINAL XBOX 

IS HAS NOT SOLD 10MILL TO CONSUMERS YET VGCHARTS.ORG

winner-ps3

So your saying not a SINGLE person bout a 360 for the past 2 months? seeing as it says the same exact number as when I viewed it 2 months ago.

self ownage yet again

[QUOTE="ParasiteEveLust"]

It is selling poorly. It has not reached 10 million as of yet. It's doing horrible in Japan, somewhere around 300,000, M$ predicted it could sell 1 million the first year and failed to do so. Not doing so hot in Europe either.

El_Fanboy

FFS PEOPLE THERE WAS AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT BY MICROSOFT SAYING THEY HAVE REACHED 10 MILLION SOLD.

MICROSOFT HAS SOLD 10 MILLION CONSOLES TO RETAILERS AS OF NOVEMBER 06. THIS Is FACT.

No, they lied. Also, M$ has been filling up unwanted 360s to retail channels just so they can announce their high shipped numbers.

Ms for the 1st year set their goal at 10 million. They achieved it.

Ms at the beginning of 07 stated until junish they hope to only sell 1 millionish. 

MS is a great marketer, they know what theyre doing.  They are, no doubt in my mind or the majoirty of people's, the best marketer in the entire bussiness industry. 

Educated_Gamer

10 million in 15 months through 2 holiday seasons is not impressive.  Their original goal was higher than 10 million.  They changed it when they realized they weren't going to meet it in order to keep the buzz down and keep their shareholders a little happier.  They gave low expectations for the beginning of this year in the obvious recognition that two new consoles (especially the Wii) were going to steal a lot of the 360's thunder, not to mention the DS, which is selling WAY faster than anything else in history at the moment. 

The 360 is not in a position to be a market leader through a generation.  It hasn't warranted enough purchases thus far, and it doesn't show a sign that it will in the future either.  Their is only one alpha dog of a pack, and this generation's seems to be the Wii.

Also, their marketing division does not have everything to do with how well the system sells.  You can't "trick" people into wasting $400 for long, especially when their are cheaper options (Wii), and more valuable options (PS3).  In the end, it has to be the games, and the 360 does not have what it takes to be the market leader.  Great games do not equal system sellers, necessarily.  Wii Sports, that is a system seller.  Nintendogs is a system seller.  Mass Effect is not a system seller.  Even Halo is not a system seller on that level.

[QUOTE="ParasiteEveLust"]

It is selling poorly. It has not reached 10 million as of yet. It's doing horrible in Japan, somewhere around 300,000, M$ predicted it could sell 1 million the first year and failed to do so. Not doing so hot in Europe either.

rexoverbey

Coming from a PS3 fan.  When Sony has failed to sell even 3 million consoles after 5 months.  360 is still destroying PS3 in sales.  Plus we have a lot of system selling games this year like Halo 3 and Mass Effect.

Do you work for MS?

The poster you attack stated that it is selling poorly and you come back with, "360 is still destroying PS3 in sales."  So are you admitting that the Xbox really has NOT sold 10 million units?

[QUOTE="rexoverbey"][QUOTE="ParasiteEveLust"]

It is selling poorly. It has not reached 10 million as of yet. It's doing horrible in Japan, somewhere around 300,000, M$ predicted it could sell 1 million the first year and failed to do so. Not doing so hot in Europe either.

Subcritical

Coming from a PS3 fan.  When Sony has failed to sell even 3 million consoles after 5 months.  360 is still destroying PS3 in sales.  Plus we have a lot of system selling games this year like Halo 3 and Mass Effect.

Do you work for MS?

The poster you attack stated that it is selling poorly and you come back with, "360 is still destroying PS3 in sales."  So are you admitting that the Xbox really has NOT sold 10 million units?

Funny how you fail to acknowledge that VGcharts hasnt updated the 360 sales for over 2 months. Like I said, are you admitting to thinking not a SINGLE person has purchased a 360 in the last 2-3 months?

/end

[QUOTE="El_Fanboy"][QUOTE="ParasiteEveLust"]

It is selling poorly. It has not reached 10 million as of yet. It's doing horrible in Japan, somewhere around 300,000, M$ predicted it could sell 1 million the first year and failed to do so. Not doing so hot in Europe either.

ParasiteEveLust

FFS PEOPLE THERE WAS AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT BY MICROSOFT SAYING THEY HAVE REACHED 10 MILLION SOLD.

MICROSOFT HAS SOLD 10 MILLION CONSOLES TO RETAILERS AS OF NOVEMBER 06. THIS Is FACT.

No, they lied. Also, M$ has been filling up unwanted 360s to retail channels just so they can announce their high shipped numbers.

I think you may be right.  MS is on damage control because of the hardware failures that the Xbox is suffering.  They are going to do everything they can to give the illusion that everything is just fine for the shareholders and public perception. 

Presently, Xbox and MS lovers really have nothing to brag about.  The system has been out for 1.5 years and two holiday periods.  They are being outsold by Nintendo.  Sony is just entering the market and has the more powerful, better built piece of equipment.

IT IS SELLING AT THE SMAE RATE AS THE ORIGINAL XBOX 

IS HAS NOT SOLD 10MILL TO CONSUMERS YET VGCHARTS.ORG

winner-ps3

[QUOTE="Subcritical"][QUOTE="rexoverbey"][QUOTE="ParasiteEveLust"]

It is selling poorly. It has not reached 10 million as of yet. It's doing horrible in Japan, somewhere around 300,000, M$ predicted it could sell 1 million the first year and failed to do so. Not doing so hot in Europe either.

DoctorBunny

Coming from a PS3 fan.  When Sony has failed to sell even 3 million consoles after 5 months.  360 is still destroying PS3 in sales.  Plus we have a lot of system selling games this year like Halo 3 and Mass Effect.

Do you work for MS?

The poster you attack stated that it is selling poorly and you come back with, "360 is still destroying PS3 in sales."  So are you admitting that the Xbox really has NOT sold 10 million units?

Funny how you fail to acknowledge that VGcharts hasnt updated the 360 sales for over 2 months. Like I said, are you admitting to thinking not a SINGLE person has purchased a 360 in the last 2-3 months?

/end

Funny how you mention a site like that to reference how many 360s have sold.  Shall we talk about nexgenwars?  nexgenwars had the 360 at 10.4 million in the beginning of January.  Care to visit the site and see what the 360 is at now?  10.5 million.  They LOWERED the 360 total drastically when they got new sales data (likely the same sales data that vgcharts had already).  vgcharts has proven itself to never be that far off.  Personally, I think they're about 600,000 low right now on the 360, and a little high on the PS3, but it's not that big of a difference from what anyone else is saying. 

For all you know, vgcharts could be right.  Either way, they're certainly not that far off.

[QUOTE="Subcritical"][QUOTE="rexoverbey"][QUOTE="ParasiteEveLust"]

It is selling poorly. It has not reached 10 million as of yet. It's doing horrible in Japan, somewhere around 300,000, M$ predicted it could sell 1 million the first year and failed to do so. Not doing so hot in Europe either.

DoctorBunny

Coming from a PS3 fan.  When Sony has failed to sell even 3 million consoles after 5 months.  360 is still destroying PS3 in sales.  Plus we have a lot of system selling games this year like Halo 3 and Mass Effect.

Do you work for MS?

The poster you attack stated that it is selling poorly and you come back with, "360 is still destroying PS3 in sales."  So are you admitting that the Xbox really has NOT sold 10 million units?

Funny how you fail to acknowledge that VGcharts hasnt updated the 360 sales for over 2 months. Like I said, are you admitting to thinking not a SINGLE person has purchased a 360 in the last 2-3 months?

/end

No, I'm sure they are still selling some units and many are being sent back for repairs too.  I'm also confident that Nintendo's system is doing better then MS's, that in the long run, Sony will outpace the Xbox and that MS is suffering from bad press because of quality issues, they are losing money and shareholders are probably a little concerned.

Ms for the 1st year set their goal at 10 million. They achieved it.

Ms at the beginning of 07 stated until junish they hope to only sell 1 millionish. 

MS is a great marketer, they know what theyre doing.  They are, no doubt in my mind or the majoirty of people's, the best marketer in the entire bussiness industry. 

Educated_Gamer

their goal was 12 million later cut back to 10 million
and hoping to selling 1 million in 6 months is pretty bad
what ur saying is if i set the bar low and achieve it ... i win

WHAT!! THEY ARE SELLING 360S POORLY!! PS3 EXPECTED AT LEAST 500,000 PEOPLE TO BUY A PS3 BUT THEY GOT 800,000 PEOPLE BUYING THE PS3! XBOX ONLY HAD 200,000 WOW I GUESE EUROPEANS LOVE PS3!! YAY!!

Ackad

EXCEPT the fact that 360 was already a year out !!! Now PS3 went back to selling lower !!!

[QUOTE="Educated_Gamer"]

Ms for the 1st year set their goal at 10 million. They achieved it.

Ms at the beginning of 07 stated until junish they hope to only sell 1 millionish. 

MS is a great marketer, they know what theyre doing.  They are, no doubt in my mind or the majoirty of people's, the best marketer in the entire bussiness industry. 

i_like_pizza

10 million in 15 months through 2 holiday seasons is not impressive.  Their original goal was higher than 10 million.  They changed it when they realized they weren't going to meet it in order to keep the buzz down and keep their shareholders a little happier.  They gave low expectations for the beginning of this year in the obvious recognition that two new consoles (especially the Wii) were going to steal a lot of the 360's thunder, not to mention the DS, which is selling WAY faster than anything else in history at the moment. 

The 360 is not in a position to be a market leader through a generation.  It hasn't warranted enough purchases thus far, and it doesn't show a sign that it will in the future either.  Their is only one alpha dog of a pack, and this generation's seems to be the Wii.

Also, their marketing division does not have everything to do with how well the system sells.  You can't "trick" people into wasting $400 for long, especially when their are cheaper options (Wii), and more valuable options (PS3).  In the end, it has to be the games, and the 360 does not have what it takes to be the market leader.  Great games do not equal system sellers, necessarily.  Wii Sports, that is a system seller.  Nintendogs is a system seller.  Mass Effect is not a system seller.  Even Halo is not a system seller on that level.

Agree...and it's been almost 17 months actually.

Maybe people are realizing the only thing 360 has that other consoles don't is futuristic first person shooters...parts 250 thru 300.

[QUOTE="i_like_pizza"][QUOTE="Educated_Gamer"]

Ms for the 1st year set their goal at 10 million. They achieved it.

Ms at the beginning of 07 stated until junish they hope to only sell 1 millionish. 

MS is a great marketer, they know what theyre doing.  They are, no doubt in my mind or the majoirty of people's, the best marketer in the entire bussiness industry. 

FullMetal22

10 million in 15 months through 2 holiday seasons is not impressive.  Their original goal was higher than 10 million.  They changed it when they realized they weren't going to meet it in order to keep the buzz down and keep their shareholders a little happier.  They gave low expectations for the beginning of this year in the obvious recognition that two new consoles (especially the Wii) were going to steal a lot of the 360's thunder, not to mention the DS, which is selling WAY faster than anything else in history at the moment. 

The 360 is not in a position to be a market leader through a generation.  It hasn't warranted enough purchases thus far, and it doesn't show a sign that it will in the future either.  Their is only one alpha dog of a pack, and this generation's seems to be the Wii.

Also, their marketing division does not have everything to do with how well the system sells.  You can't "trick" people into wasting $400 for long, especially when their are cheaper options (Wii), and more valuable options (PS3).  In the end, it has to be the games, and the 360 does not have what it takes to be the market leader.  Great games do not equal system sellers, necessarily.  Wii Sports, that is a system seller.  Nintendogs is a system seller.  Mass Effect is not a system seller.  Even Halo is not a system seller on that level.

Agree...and it's been almost 17 months actually.

Maybe people are realizing the only thing 360 has that other consoles don't is futuristic first person shooters...parts 250 thru 300.

So, Ninja Gaiden 2, Blue dragon, Lost odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, Cry On, Eternal Sonata, Bioshock, Alan Wake, Two Worlds, Elveon, Overlord, Fable 2, Mass Effect 1-2-3, Too Human, Kotor 3, Fallout 3, Project Offset

are all ............... futuristic first person shooters ??????????

[QUOTE="Educated_Gamer"]

Ms for the 1st year set their goal at 10 million. They achieved it.

Ms at the beginning of 07 stated until junish they hope to only sell 1 millionish. 

MS is a great marketer, they know what theyre doing.  They are, no doubt in my mind or the majoirty of people's, the best marketer in the entire bussiness industry. 

xxgunslingerxx

their goal was 12 million later cut back to 10 million
and hoping to selling 1 million in 6 months is pretty bad
what ur saying is if i set the bar low and achieve it ... i win

Actually their initial goal was 15million the first year? Then cut it back to 10million.

[QUOTE="FullMetal22"][QUOTE="i_like_pizza"][QUOTE="Educated_Gamer"]

Ms for the 1st year set their goal at 10 million. They achieved it.

Ms at the beginning of 07 stated until junish they hope to only sell 1 millionish. 

MS is a great marketer, they know what theyre doing.  They are, no doubt in my mind or the majoirty of people's, the best marketer in the entire bussiness industry. 

greg_splicer

10 million in 15 months through 2 holiday seasons is not impressive.  Their original goal was higher than 10 million.  They changed it when they realized they weren't going to meet it in order to keep the buzz down and keep their shareholders a little happier.  They gave low expectations for the beginning of this year in the obvious recognition that two new consoles (especially the Wii) were going to steal a lot of the 360's thunder, not to mention the DS, which is selling WAY faster than anything else in history at the moment. 

The 360 is not in a position to be a market leader through a generation.  It hasn't warranted enough purchases thus far, and it doesn't show a sign that it will in the future either.  Their is only one alpha dog of a pack, and this generation's seems to be the Wii.

Also, their marketing division does not have everything to do with how well the system sells.  You can't "trick" people into wasting $400 for long, especially when their are cheaper options (Wii), and more valuable options (PS3).  In the end, it has to be the games, and the 360 does not have what it takes to be the market leader.  Great games do not equal system sellers, necessarily.  Wii Sports, that is a system seller.  Nintendogs is a system seller.  Mass Effect is not a system seller.  Even Halo is not a system seller on that level.

Agree...and it's been almost 17 months actually.

Maybe people are realizing the only thing 360 has that other consoles don't is futuristic first person shooters...parts 250 thru 300.

So, Ninja Gaiden 2, Blue dragon, Lost odyssey, Infinite Undiscovery, Cry On, Eternal Sonata, Bioshock, Alan Wake, Two Worlds, Elveon, Overlord, Fable 2, Mass Effect 1-2-3, Too Human, Kotor 3, Fallout 3, Project Offset

are all ............... futuristic first person shooters ??????????

I'm sorry but that list fails.

who the hell ever said the 360 was selling poorly?Solid-CELL

Ms for the 1st year set their goal at 10 million. They achieved it.

Ms at the beginning of 07 stated until junish they hope to only sell 1 millionish.

MS is a great marketer, they know what theyre doing. They are, no doubt in my mind or the majoirty of people's, the best marketer in the entire bussiness industry.

Educated_Gamer

 They're not exactly selling a bunch either. Your logic is flawed, how bout I predict I sell 1 of my new console. Instead I sell 2, I doubled my original spectations but should nI really pat myself in the back for achieving that?

[QUOTE="winner-ps3"]

IT IS SELLING AT THE SMAE RATE AS THE ORIGINAL XBOX 

IS HAS NOT SOLD 10MILL TO CONSUMERS YET VGCHARTS.ORG

DoctorBunny

So your saying not a SINGLE person bout a 360 for the past 2 months? seeing as it says the same exact number as when I viewed it 2 months ago.

self ownage yet again

you obviously were not watching vgcharts then because two months ago it was not the same here is my proof.

 http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25382324

i love proving people wrong :lol:

[QUOTE="winner-ps3"]

IT IS SELLING AT THE SMAE RATE AS THE ORIGINAL XBOX 

IS HAS NOT SOLD 10MILL TO CONSUMERS YET VGCHARTS.ORG

pundog

:lol: thats the funniest thing i heard all day. if they didnt sell to consumers do you think stores would keep ordering them?

[QUOTE="xxgunslingerxx"][QUOTE="Educated_Gamer"]

Ms for the 1st year set their goal at 10 million. They achieved it.

Ms at the beginning of 07 stated until junish they hope to only sell 1 millionish. 

MS is a great marketer, they know what theyre doing.  They are, no doubt in my mind or the majoirty of people's, the best marketer in the entire bussiness industry. 

Goku004

their goal was 12 million later cut back to 10 million
and hoping to selling 1 million in 6 months is pretty bad
what ur saying is if i set the bar low and achieve it ... i win

Actually their initial goal was 15million the first year? Then cut it back to 10million.

your both wrong it was originaly 13-15 million by the end of june then they lowered it just 12 million by the end of june. google is your friend.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/759/759228p1.html