The Xbox 360 is the most innovative console of all time

[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

How is the Wii innovative?

Sweet_Genocide

You just described 'The Final Destination'

BTW, TC innovative, yes of all time, that's a stretch. The old Atarit consoles each did something that was never done on a home console before. The 2600, difficulty switches, games in rest changed color, the 5200, 1st with analog and had an automatic connector switch, the 7800, 1st backwards compatible machine...

[QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"][QUOTE="bronxxbombers"] The 360 is more innovative then the PS3. All the PS3 had, really was blu-ray.bronxxbombers

Guys guys lets be honest here TC is not going to backdown. He is a fanboy and as we all know fanboys are stubborn as a mule. Heres a visual aid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJJA1vvMc4ISo can someone lock this joke of a topic.

[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]

[QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"] Wireless built in? HDMI since launch? Support for 7 controllers at a time? Blue tooth, TOUCH SENSITIVE BUTTONS!!?!?!??!?!?!???!!!!, blu ray is no small deal either it made the Blu-Ray format win the war against the useless HDDVD. Hardware wise the PS3 is a lot better then the 360. That is no question y0. Gangstah-Fresh

Because wired is faster and not everyone needs it....

NATAL - doesn't need to be out... already super innovative

AHUGECAT

This is probably the dumbest thing I've read here... And this is System Wars. If it's not the absolute number one, at least it's up there with "PC can't do HD", "Metroid is a robot" and "Einstein and Hitler lived in different time periods".

Somebody give this kid a trophy... I mean, an achievement!

[QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"][QUOTE="bronxxbombers"] The 360 is more innovative then the PS3. All the PS3 had, really was blu-ray.AHUGECAT

I like how you say "useless HDDVD" - funny because Blu-ray is just as useless.

Guys guys lets be honest here TC is not going to backdown. He is a fanboy and as we all know fanboys are stubborn as a mule. Heres a visual aid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJJA1vvMc4ISo can someone lock this joke of a topic.

finalfantasy94

How am I a fanboy if I own a PS3 and have played every game I have reviewed? A fanboy would just make up reviews.

A few console innovations because of the Xbox 360:

- Achievements. Gaming without achievements is no longer the same.
- Wireless controller standard
- Guide button
- Detachable hard drive
- Free three year warranty
- RTS, WRPGs and FPS that actually work on a console (incredible)
- Best controller ever
- Project Natal.... best non-controller ever
- Xbox Live Arcade
- Netflix
- Xbox Live Primetime (ie 1vs100)
- NXE
- XNA
and so much more

Sony keeps trying to catch up but just looks a poor imitation (their triggers for their DS3 are garbage compared to 360's, PSN is a joke compared to LIVE, Resistance and Killzone 2 are nothing compared to Gears/Halo 3, trophies aren't as good as achievements, etc. etc.).

A lot of people like the SNES and PS2... but those weren't really innovative consoles. PS2 especially. PS2 was so outdated it even only included 2 controller ports AND had no ethernet/hard drive!

AHUGECAT

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="fguyhthfghfdsfs"]xbox360 controller is very innovative they were the first to put 2 analogs on a controller oh wait LOLZfguyhthfghfdsfs

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"] Wireless built in? HDMI since launch? Support for 7 controllers at a time? Blue tooth, TOUCH SENSITIVE BUTTONS!!?!?!??!?!?!???!!!!, blu ray is no small deal either it made the Blu-Ray format win the war against the useless HDDVD. Hardware wise the PS3 is a lot better then the 360. That is no question y0. Gangstah-Fresh

I like how you say "useless HDDVD" - funny because Blu-ray is just as useless.

Um games like MGS4 and Killzone 2 SUFFERED because of Blu-ray... how, you asked?

10 MINUTE INSTALL TIMES (at least for MGS4). Seriously, 15 seconds to switch a disc > 10 minutes of watching Snake smoke

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Guys guys lets be honest here TC is not going to backdown. He is a fanboy and as we all know fanboys are stubborn as a mule. Heres a visual aid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJJA1vvMc4ISo can someone lock this joke of a topic.

AHUGECAT

How am I a fanboy if I own a PS3 and have played every game I have reviewed? A fanboy would just make up reviews.

[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"]

[QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"] Wireless built in? HDMI since launch? Support for 7 controllers at a time? Blue tooth, TOUCH SENSITIVE BUTTONS!!?!?!??!?!?!???!!!!, blu ray is no small deal either it made the Blu-Ray format win the war against the useless HDDVD. Hardware wise the PS3 is a lot better then the 360. That is no question y0. Gangstah-Fresh

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Guys guys lets be honest here TC is not going to backdown. He is a fanboy and as we all know fanboys are stubborn as a mule. Heres a visual aid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJJA1vvMc4ISo can someone lock this joke of a topic.

PannicAtack

How am I a fanboy if I own a PS3 and have played every game I have reviewed? A fanboy would just make up reviews.

How am I a fanboy?

[QUOTE="Sniper-PIG"]You didn't think this one through...lets have a look: Achievements - Basically unlockables with a new name and look. Wireless controller standard - This is innovative how? LOL Guide button - basically a start button with features, seen on the PSP b4 the 360 debuted. Detachable HDD - how is this innovative...consoles have had detachable units for years. warranty - NO, just NO...used only to mask the real issue and keep lawsuits out. Problem still lingers. Best controller - Its a dreamcast/cube controller thrown in one...nothing innovative..SORRY and besides...OPINION. Natal - isn't even OUT! haha Netflix - who cares. Xbox live - might give you this one. And yeah Sony is catching up, considering the 360 basically became the PS3 with its addons of HDMI, bigger HDD, HD-DVD, 1080p resolution. HAHA i'm done. :)AHUGECAT

Achievements - Basically unlockables that add to gamerscore and are very addicting

Wireless controller standard - no other system has had a wireless controller be standard

Guide button - a start button? LOL... it's NOTHNG like a start button and the PSP is a handheld machine. If the PSP innovated it then why is Sony's "guide button" a direct rip off of MS' guide button? That's right - MS innovated it

Detachable hard drive - the PS2 never came with a hard drive

Warranty - yes, just YES. When Sony's PS2's got DRE like crazy Sony said "HAHA! LOL @ YOU GUYS! NOW BUY ANOTHER PS2 SO WE CAN REACH 140 MILLION!" And the RROD is almost non-existant in new consoles

Best controller - yes, it is a dc/cube controller and it made it the best

NATAL - doesn't need to be out... already super innovative

Netflix - who cares? Tons of people do

HDMI, meh. Bigger HDD? That's not an innovation. HD DVD was for movies and not for games, and MS didn't even care about it all that much.

Wireless controller - the other 2 systems was long confirmed before launch that they were gonna have it anyways, the 360 came out a year earlier. Besides, both the PS3 and the wii does this better than the 360, who makes you add the big piece of weight to it. And don't say coming out a year later doesn't count, because you should take a look at your comment on Natal.

Warranty - Wow, this must be REALLY innovative. I guess its never happened in the world of business before. Microsoft must be geniuses for coming up with a PLAN that helps people repair things for free!

HDMI - you might not care because you can't afford a HDTV, but for those that do, it is an innovation.

HDD - This one came from your OP, the PS2 had it first, and the PS3 ALL have them, the 360 if anything is at the ps2 level.

A real innovation - I'll give you this one, the RRoD. Never before have so many gamers been swept by fear not unlike a terrorist attack, now that's something we've never seen before. ;)

[QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

I like how you say "useless HDDVD" - funny because Blu-ray is just as useless.

AHUGECAT

Um games like MGS4 and Killzone 2 SUFFERED because of Blu-ray... how, you asked?

10 MINUTE INSTALL TIMES (at least for MGS4). Seriously, 15 seconds to switch a disc > 10 minutes of watching Snake smoke

problem with the world everyone's turning into a bunch of wussy's.fguyhthfghfdsfs

Btw how 'bout the most important feature:

360 is so innovative and good and a prime work of God Himself that it made the TC act like a social failure braggin' how awesome it is instead of doing anything better. ;)

AHUGECAT forgot the 360's most pupular innovation... the RRoD.

[QUOTE="fguyhthfghfdsfs"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]So? You're still a ban-dodger and a troll.PannicAtack

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"] Watch Band of Brothers on Blu-ray. It's amazing. It also doesn't hurt having games that utilize the storage on the Blu Ray (MGS4/KZ2 etc). I guess if you are short on cash as I currently am blu-ray may not seem reasonable but if you got the cash the tech is great. Gangstah-Fresh

Um games like MGS4 and Killzone 2 SUFFERED because of Blu-ray... how, you asked?

10 MINUTE INSTALL TIMES (at least for MGS4). Seriously, 15 seconds to switch a disc > 10 minutes of watching Snake smoke

Yeah but the thing is I didn't buy PlayStation for Blu-ray movies, know what I mean? I mean DVDs were a huge leap of VHS and was going to be a big hit... Blu-ray just came out of nowhere and isn't really useful in the digital age.

[QUOTE="fguyhthfghfdsfs"]problem with the world everyone's turning into a bunch of wussy's.fguyhthfghfdsfs

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Guys guys lets be honest here TC is not going to backdown. He is a fanboy and as we all know fanboys are stubborn as a mule. Heres a visual aid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJJA1vvMc4ISo can someone lock this joke of a topic.

AHUGECAT

How am I a fanboy if I own a PS3 and have played every game I have reviewed? A fanboy would just make up reviews.

AHUGECAT forgot the 360's most pupular innovation... the RRoD.

GreenGoblin2099

[QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"][QUOTE="bronxxbombers"] Wireless built in? Thats not really all too innovative. Who owns 7 controllers? What do you mean by touch sensitive buttons? None of that is really that innovative.

bronxxbombers

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

How am I a fanboy if I own a PS3 and have played every game I have reviewed? A fanboy would just make up reviews.

AHUGECAT

How am I a fanboy?

[QUOTE="fguyhthfghfdsfs"][QUOTE="fguyhthfghfdsfs"]problem with the world everyone's turning into a bunch of wussy's.PannicAtack

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Guys guys lets be honest here TC is not going to backdown. He is a fanboy and as we all know fanboys are stubborn as a mule. Heres a visual aid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJJA1vvMc4ISo can someone lock this joke of a topic.

AHUGECAT

How am I a fanboy if I own a PS3 and have played every game I have reviewed? A fanboy would just make up reviews.

Ah your one of those who thinks "I have all systems so im not a fanboy" there is a thing called being biased dude. Which you are 100% biased against the ps3. Just stop lieing to yourself.

[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"] Well when you have friends that also have PS3's and they come over to play some serious Fifa you enjoy the support of more then 4 controllers. Also if having built in wireless isn't innovative why doesn't the 360 have it? Gangstah-Fresh

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]That doesn't have anything to do with the definition of "fanboy."PannicAtack

How am I a fanboy?

Nope, I am not a fanboy. I just prefer the 360. I DID give the PS3 a fair chance - I own one, check my blog for proof. A fanboy would never buy another system.

A few console innovations because of the Xbox 360:

- Achievements. Gaming without achievements is no longer the same.
- Wireless controller standard
- Guide button
- Detachable hard drive
- Free three year warranty
- RTS, WRPGs and FPS that actually work on a console (incredible)
- Best controller ever
- Project Natal.... best non-controller ever
- Xbox Live Arcade
- Netflix
- Xbox Live Primetime (ie 1vs100)
- NXE
- XNA
and so much more

Sony keeps trying to catch up but just looks a poor imitation (their triggers for their DS3 are garbage compared to 360's, PSN is a joke compared to LIVE, Resistance and Killzone 2 are nothing compared to Gears/Halo 3, trophies aren't as good as achievements, etc. etc.).

A lot of people like the SNES and PS2... but those weren't really innovative consoles. PS2 especially. PS2 was so outdated it even only included 2 controller ports AND had no ethernet/hard drive!

AHUGECAT

Geez...where to start... It seems that a lot of what you said was actually available in the PS2 and the first Xbox. Achievements, Live, controller (not the wireless part) were all available on the first Xbox. You can't really call the console innovative becayse it had good RTS, RPG, and FPS games either. Also, you're calling it innovative because it had a warranty? Really? That's a business decision...it has nothing to do with the degree of "innovation" of the 360. Also, you have to remember, a lot of the features seem "innovative" only because 360 was first to market. The PS3 has some of these features (wireless controller, removable hard drive, etc.), and I'm sure that the PS3's core design was pretty much done by the time 360 was released. i.e. I don't think the the aformentioned 360 features caused the people at Sony to redesign the ps3 to copy these features (except for trophies later on lol)., they were just a natural progression of technology that had been talked about before the "next gen" consoles were announced/released. That being said, some things, like Natal (although still not fully proven), XNA, and Netflix were definitely innovative. So I do kind of agree with you on that point.

[QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Um games like MGS4 and Killzone 2 SUFFERED because of Blu-ray... how, you asked?

10 MINUTE INSTALL TIMES (at least for MGS4). Seriously, 15 seconds to switch a disc > 10 minutes of watching Snake smoke

AHUGECAT

Yeah but the thing is I didn't buy PlayStation for Blu-ray movies, know what I mean? I mean DVDs were a huge leap of VHS and was going to be a big hit... Blu-ray just came out of nowhere and isn't really useful in the digital age.

Aw come on, Sony read everyones mind with Bluray. Everyone was just dying to rebuy BD 80's movies for 4x as much as the regular DVD version, just for the heck of it :roll:

Ah your one of those who thinks "I have all systems so im not a fanboy" there is a thing called being biased dude. Which you are 100% biased against the ps3. Just stop lieing to yourself.

finalfantasy94

Those are rich fanboys. :)

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

How am I a fanboy?

AHUGECAT

Nope, I am not a fanboy. I just prefer the 360. I DID give the PS3 a fair chance - I own one, check my blog for proof. A fanboy would never buy another system.

[QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Um games like MGS4 and Killzone 2 SUFFERED because of Blu-ray... how, you asked?

10 MINUTE INSTALL TIMES (at least for MGS4). Seriously, 15 seconds to switch a disc > 10 minutes of watching Snake smoke

AHUGECAT

Yeah but the thing is I didn't buy PlayStation for Blu-ray movies, know what I mean? I mean DVDs were a huge leap of VHS and was going to be a big hit... Blu-ray just came out of nowhere and isn't really useful in the digital age.

And MGS4 and Infamous better than Halo 3?

L. O. L.

AHUGECAT

I don't know about Infamous, but according to System Wars Rule: MGS4 (AAAAE) > Halo 3 (AAAE).

L. O. L.

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

How am I a fanboy?

AHUGECAT

Nope, I am not a fanboy. I just prefer the 360. I DID give the PS3 a fair chance - I own one, check my blog for proof. A fanboy would never buy another system.

No you are fanboy because you have the audacity to play games on other systems and provide truthful reviews for them instead of caving into what everyone else says....:roll:

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[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"] Because MS gives you the option to buy one. If you need it, go buy one, if you dont, then dont buy it. The 360 was really the first home console to seamlessly combine your console with the internet and other users all around the world. Even the PS3 isnt as good yet.bronxxbombers

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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Die-hard favoritism for a certain thing, being a vocal member of a fandom, and touting a system amounts to near-advertising.PannicAtack

Nope, I am not a fanboy. I just prefer the 360. I DID give the PS3 a fair chance - I own one, check my blog for proof. A fanboy would never buy another system.

Okay so how am I a fanboy? Because I prefer the 360?

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"] That actually is true lol I guess the tech is more appreciated by the 300+lbs kids in society, but still movies on blu-ray are amazing. Gangstah-Fresh

Yeah but the thing is I didn't buy PlayStation for Blu-ray movies, know what I mean? I mean DVDs were a huge leap of VHS and was going to be a big hit... Blu-ray just came out of nowhere and isn't really useful in the digital age.

Why spend $600 for a stand alone when you can get one for $150?

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Nope, I am not a fanboy. I just prefer the 360. I DID give the PS3 a fair chance - I own one, check my blog for proof. A fanboy would never buy another system.

AHUGECAT

Okay so how am I a fanboy? Because I prefer the 360?

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

How am I a fanboy?

AHUGECAT

Nope, I am not a fanboy. I just prefer the 360. I DID give the PS3 a fair chance - I own one, check my blog for proof. A fanboy would never buy another system.

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"] Die-hard favoritism for a certain thing, being a vocal member of a fandom, and touting a system amounts to near-advertising.MizFitAwesome

Nope, I am not a fanboy. I just prefer the 360. I DID give the PS3 a fair chance - I own one, check my blog for proof. A fanboy would never buy another system.

No you are fanboy because you have the audacity to play games on other systems and provide truthful reviews for them instead of caving into what everyone else says....:roll:

A fanboy protecting a fanboy.

Ouch, you just dissed up the SNES, and PS2. You really don't want to be liked around here.siLVURcross

Sexy sig :D

But I liked the one with the Otaku girl a bit better :|...

[QUOTE="bronxxbombers"][QUOTE="Gangstah-Fresh"] Wow, so paying 299 for a 360 without wifi instead of a PS3 with Wifi is actually a benefit for the consumer from the thoughtful people at Microsofts gaming division? The Wii, PSP, and the DS have Wifi built in how does the 360 not?

Gangstah-Fresh

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

Nope, I am not a fanboy. I just prefer the 360. I DID give the PS3 a fair chance - I own one, check my blog for proof. A fanboy would never buy another system.

AHUGECAT

Okay so how am I a fanboy? Because I prefer the 360?