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I never said RE5 suggests this tension. I was only stating why there were no complaints about the European Spanish in RE4.

You can't call these people who got offended racicst.

1.) They are ignorant yes.
2.) They aren't gamers.
3.) They don't know the premise of RE5.
4.) They acted solely on knowing the footage of a white man shooing black people.
5.) They felt this way because of the racial tension and negative history between blacks and whites.

nintendo-4life

What i meant was RE5 was never about black vs. and will never be. Anyone who got offended by this only means they have the subject 24/7 on their heads and nit pick about every small detail, hence why I think they are racist.

Of course it was never about this black vs. white in Capcom's eyes. You have to take all sides into consideration (capcom's and black/white). The black people who were offended by the original RE5 trailer are not racist, and neither is Capcom. Now if they were gamers and knew the premise of the game this would be another story.

They are ignorant to the entire situation, mislead by the orginal trailer and quickly judged Capcom and RE5 and based it all on race. This does not make them racist though.

Just like the guy in this thread who said: "black people always think the world is against them." I don't think he's racist, just ignorant to the situation.

If you still believe they are racist then that's you, I'm not sure what to say.

European Spanish (RE4) and Hispanics from Latin Ametrica are two different people.

No joke. Why are you "laughing out loud"?

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Wait, according to that dog that talks with a cigar, they are just European Mexicans.

I'm laughing because the idea of this game being racist is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. So because of slavery we can't make video games that has Zombies in AFrica....or we can but we just can't have a white guy shoot them. Maybe Capcom should have Blade killing them.....that way no one can complain. When people say "black people always think the world is against them", its true if all you hear is Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. So if all your information came from these people, why would you not hold the belief black people think the owrld is against them?

Oh I'm laughing the most because you think slavery, prejudice, and segreation has ANYTHING to do with RE5. The fact you try to defend this way of thinking just makes me laugh. If it has a black guy getting shot by a white guy no matter the context....scream racisim. It's a game of zombies, the location just happens to be in Africa this time. The thought that we can't go to that location because they are black sounds more racists than anythign else.

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]Spanish people didnt complain about RE4, I dont mean to be rude but I dont understand why black people always think the world is against them.Episode_Eve

This post is ignorant. There is no racial tension or any history reltaed to slavery, hatred, or race bwtween white America and the Spanish. Therefore no need for any type of complaint.

You are further strengthening the stereo type that black people ALWAYS think the world is against them. *shakes head*

So since they don't have a history its ok to make a game where a white guy kills a whole village of spanish people?

Capcom is a Japanese company. So if the japanese don't have a history with black people than does that make it ok?

I'm shaking my head at you.

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European Spanish (RE4) and Hispanics from Latin Ametrica are two different people.

No joke. Why are you "laughing out loud"?

darthogre

Wait, according to that dog that talks with a cigar, they are just European Mexicans.

I'm laughing because the idea of this game being racist is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. So because of slavery we can't make video games that has Zombies in AFrica....or we can but we just can't have a white guy shoot them. Maybe Capcom should have Blade killing them.....that way no one can complain. When people say "black people always think the world is against them", its true if all you hear is Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. So if all your information came from these people, why would you not hold the belief black people think the owrld is against them?

Oh I'm laughing the most because you think slavery, prejudice, and segreation has ANYTHING to do with RE5. The fact you try to defend this way of thinking just makes me laugh. If it has a black guy getting shot by a white guy no matter the context....scream racisim. It's a game of zombies, the location just happens to be in Africa this time. The thought that we can't go to that location because they are black sounds more racists than anythign else.

No. You were laughing at my post. I never said RE5 has to do with slavery, prejudice, and segregation. I was only trying to prove a point as to why European Spanish don't complain about RE4 and why there is racial tension between blacks and whites.

If you re-read eveything I posted earlier you would see why what I said makes sense.

1.) RE5 is not racist
2.) Since when did Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton = All black people? They don't even always talk about race.
3.) Re-read my post. You are falsely accusing me and making yoursslf look dumb in the process. (No offense)

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[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]Spanish people didnt complain about RE4, I dont mean to be rude but I dont understand why black people always think the world is against them.sleepingzzz

This post is ignorant. There is no racial tension or any history reltaed to slavery, hatred, or race bwtween white America and the Spanish. Therefore no need for any type of complaint.

You are further strengthening the stereo type that black people ALWAYS think the world is against them. *shakes head*

So since they don't have a history its ok to make a game where a white guy kills a whole village of spanish people?

Capcom is a Japanese company. So if the japanese don't have a history with black people than does that make it ok?

I'm shaking my head at you.

Yes it's ok. It's a ******* video game. And RE5 is ok as well. I never said it was ok for black people to complain either. But since a couple ignorant people complained I understand why: racial tension and history between our races.

Why are you shaking your head? Do you even know why I called that man ignorant? Everything I postedis valid. I'm not calling anyone racist, I'm not saying it's ok for anyone to complain. I'm not saying RE5 is racist. WTF are yall coming at me for?

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Kez1984"]I met a black person once.astor47

:lol:

this is my sig now :P

This post is ignorant. There is no racial tension or any history reltaed to slavery, hatred, or race bwtween white America and the Spanish. Therefore no need for any type of complaint.

Episode_Eve

Capcom isn't exactly based in America either.

With situations like this a distinction needs to be made between African American's response and other black people. Due to the history of African American's and America generally, African Americans often react very differently to such situations. Sometimes rightly so and other this an over-reaction. I'm Nigerian born and brought up in the UK and this didn't even register with blacks in the UK. Often due to America's history African American's views on racism or what is perceived to be racist are more hardline and defensive that other blacks.

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This post is ignorant. There is no racial tension or any history reltaed to slavery, hatred, or race bwtween white America and the Spanish. Therefore no need for any type of complaint.

Hewkii

Capcom isn't exactly based in America either.

Of course they aren't in Americ :).

Like I said before: RE4 is not racist, RE5 is not racist, Capcom is not racist, a couple of offended black people are not racist.

Peolple are ignorant, mislead, and are too quick to judge things they don't know about. That's all this is about. And what Solid_Snake300 posted was out of line.

Whoever said this is racist clearly doesn't know the meaning. Look up the Holocaust and the slave trade if you thought this game having black africans is racist.hongkingkong

I guess minstrel shows aren't racist, because they don't pass the "Holocaust test".

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What Solid_Snake300 posted was ignorant. I addressed it. Point. Blank. Period.Episode_Eve

Yyou are making this a bigger deal then it is. This is why these treads always get ulgy. Why did you have to bring up slavery or segeration? This game is in africa and africans live there. NOTHING MORE!

[QUOTE="hongkingkong"]Whoever said this is racist clearly doesn't know the meaning. Look up the Holocaust and the slave trade if you thought this game having black africans is racist.sonicmj1

I guess minstrel shows aren't racist, because they don't pass the "Holocaust test".

:|

What part of my stement suggested that? :?

[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]What Solid_Snake300 posted was ignorant. I addressed it. Point. Blank. Period.lolkie_81

Actually your posts are ingorant, you are making this a bigger deal then it is. This is why these treads always get ulgy. Why did you have to bring up slavery or segeration? This game is in africa and africans live there. NOTHING MORE!

How are my post ignorant? Pless tell me. Because I'm insulted when some one says, "Black people always think the world is agaisnt them."??? What was ignorant about that? Do you even know what ignorant means?

What is ignorant about trying to explain why there were a couple of offended black people? I'm not supporting these complaints. I've always agreed they were out of line and ignorant for calling RE5 and Capcom racist. Explain your accusations.

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]Spanish people didnt complain about RE4, I dont mean to be rude but I dont understand why black people always think the world is against them.Episode_Eve

This post is ignorant. There is no racial tension or any history reltaed to slavery, hatred, or race bwtween white America and the Spanish. Therefore no need for any type of complaint.

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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]What Solid_Snake300 posted was ignorant. I addressed it. Point. Blank. Period.Episode_Eve

Actually your posts are ingorant, you are making this a bigger deal then it is. This is why these treads always get ulgy. Why did you have to bring up slavery or segeration? This game is in africa and africans live there. NOTHING MORE!

How are my post ignorant? Pless tell me. Because I'm insulted when some one says, "Black people always think the world is agaisnt them."??? What was ignorant about that? Do you even know what ignorant means?

What is ignorant about trying to explain why there were a couple of offended black people? I'm not supporting these complaints. I've always agreed they were out of line and ignorant for calling RE5 and Capcom racist. Explain your accusations.

You should have ignored his post. Instead you went on and on bringing up slavery in the process. There are more than just a few offended black people. If it were only a few, this wouldnt have made so much news. I think solid-snake300 worded it wrong,but I see where he is coming from. I have used this example before, but its a good one. It is accepted by everyone if a black comic raggs on the "goofy" whit guy, but if a whit comic raggs on the stereotypical black man its racist. This is exactly what is happening with this game. If this was set in america and "white" americans were getting killed, no one would say a word.

BTW, Im spanish and my grandma and grandpa are from spain. The thought of re4 being racist or wrong, Never even crossed my mind. Hell it never crossed my mind about re5 until people starting making a big deal about it.

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[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]Spanish people didnt complain about RE4, I dont mean to be rude but I dont understand why black people always think the world is against them.Hexagon_777

This post is ignorant. There is no racial tension or any history reltaed to slavery, hatred, or race bwtween white America and the Spanish. Therefore no need for any type of complaint.

Here's the thing:

RE4 and RE5 are OK. Neither one of those games are racist. When did I ever say it was wrong to kill Africans in RE5? When did I ever say it was wrong to kill Spaniards in RE4?

I was only explaining why a couple of Spanish people didn't complain about RE4. There is no racial tension or historybetween the two. I understand why a couple of black people were offended by RE5. They were ignorant to the premise, gaming in genreal, and were too quick to judge.

But you have to understand WHY they complained in the first place. I don't agree with their accusations of RE5, but I understand why they would be ignorant, mislead, and relate it to race..

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[QUOTE="hongkingkong"]Whoever said this is racist clearly doesn't know the meaning. Look up the Holocaust and the slave trade if you thought this game having black africans is racist.hongkingkong

I guess minstrel shows aren't racist, because they don't pass the "Holocaust test".

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What part of my stement suggested that? :?

Suggesting that one doesn't know the 'meaning' of racism, and advising they look up the slave trade or the Holocaust for examples (some of the most extreme out there), seems like your setting a pretty high baseline for what racism requires. That may not have been what you meant, but that's how it seemed to me.

The racially charged elements of earlier promotional materials were a good deal more complex than just "black zombies", and something as small as stereotyped representations of blacks in a media product can still be damaging and racist without physically harming or hurting anyone.

[QUOTE="Solid_Snake300"]Spanish people didnt complain about RE4, I dont mean to be rude but I dont understand why black people always think the world is against them.Episode_Eve

This post is ignorant. There is no racial tension or any history reltaed to slavery, hatred, or race bwtween white America and the Spanish. Therefore no need for any type of complaint.

You are further strengthening the stereo type that black people ALWAYS think the world is against them. *shakes head*

Thank You

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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]What Solid_Snake300 posted was ignorant. I addressed it. Point. Blank. Period.lolkie_81

Actually your posts are ingorant, you are making this a bigger deal then it is. This is why these treads always get ulgy. Why did you have to bring up slavery or segeration? This game is in africa and africans live there. NOTHING MORE!

How are my post ignorant? Pless tell me. Because I'm insulted when some one says, "Black people always think the world is agaisnt them."??? What was ignorant about that? Do you even know what ignorant means?

What is ignorant about trying to explain why there were a couple of offended black people? I'm not supporting these complaints. I've always agreed they were out of line and ignorant for calling RE5 and Capcom racist. Explain your accusations.

You should have ignored his post. Instead you went on and on bringing up slavery in the process. There are more than just a few offended black people. If it were only a few, this wouldnt have made so much news. I think solid-snake300 worded it wrong,but I see where he is coming from. I have used this example before, but its a good one. It is accepted by everyone if a black comic raggs on the "goofy" whit guy, but if a whit comic raggs on the stereotypical black man its racist. This is exactly what is happening with this game. If this was set in america and "white" americans were getting killed, no one would say a word.

He worded this wrong???: "Black people always think the world is against them". Black people have their issues yes. That does not make anyone racist. For people to not understand why there are bound to be complaints is beyond me.

Why would ignore his post? People call each other out all of the time when it releates to video games on SW. I'll do the same thing when it concerns race (which is truly more improtant than video games).

[QUOTE="Kez1984"]I met a black person once.nintendo-4life

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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]What Solid_Snake300 posted was ignorant. I addressed it. Point. Blank. Period.Episode_Eve

Actually your posts are ingorant, you are making this a bigger deal then it is. This is why these treads always get ulgy. Why did you have to bring up slavery or segeration? This game is in africa and africans live there. NOTHING MORE!

You should have ignored his post. Instead you went on and on bringing up slavery in the process. There are more than just a few offended black people. If it were only a few, this wouldnt have made so much news. I think solid-snake300 worded it wrong,but I see where he is coming from. I have used this example before, but its a good one. It is accepted by everyone if a black comic raggs on the "goofy" whit guy, but if a whit comic raggs on the stereotypical black man its racist. This is exactly what is happening with this game. If this was set in america and "white" americans were getting killed, no one would say a word.

He worded this wrong???: "Black people always think the world is against them". Black people have their issues yes. That does not make anyone racist. For people to not understand why there are bound to be complaints is beyond me.

Why would ignore his post? People call each other out all of the time when it releates to video games on SW. I'll do the same thing when it concerns race (which is truly more improtant than video games).

I apologize for for calling you post ignorant, I worded it wrong as well. I felt you were hurting the situation more than helping it. People call each other out all the time about video games. Racisism is not even a valid topic in SW. I dont understand why there are bound to be complaints, no body complained about killing the spanish. Seems to me like people have double standards.

africans seem to think everythings racist to them, there the only black people i see pulling the race cardhellrazor06

Are you of any African decent?

I apologize for for calling you post ignorant, I worded it wrong as well. I felt you were hurting the situation more than helping it. People call each other out all the time about video games. Racisism is not even a valid topic in SW. I dont understand why there are bound to be complaints, no body complained about killing the spanish. Seems to me like people have double standards.

lolkie_81

I apologize if I am hurting a situation by telling the truth.

You also did not read my previous posts. There is a very logical explaination as to why some European Spanish did not complain. And why there were bound to be complaints from black people who first of: do not play video games and are ignorant to the premise of RE5.

I'm not justifying their complaints. I just understand why. Race is very touchy we just have to talk about it like adults.

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I apologize for for calling you post ignorant, I worded it wrong as well. I felt you were hurting the situation more than helping it. People call each other out all the time about video games. Racisism is not even a valid topic in SW. I dont understand why there are bound to be complaints, no body complained about killing the spanish. Seems to me like people have double standards.

Episode_Eve

I apologize if I am hurting a situation by telling the truth.

You also did not read my previous posts. There is a very logical explaination as to why some European Spanish did not complain. And why there were bound to be complaints from black people who first of: do not play video games and are ignorant to the premise of RE5.

I'm not justifying their complaints. I just understand why. Race is very touchy we just have to talk about it like adults.

Its hard for me to understand racism since I not racist.:? I really dont care, I am sick of this double standard. Jesse Jackson is going to castrait the developers of RE5.:P

..in a recent MTV interview with Resident Evil 5 producer he was asked about the "racism" reactions to the game...

Q-... how that reaction affected you?

A-No, we certainly didn't anticipate the reaction. We were quite surprised by the reaction that came out. I think everyone understands that we never set out to with the intention to make anything that was racist — that was never our intention. We think it was a bit of a misunderstanding when we published the first images of the game back in the day. And we think that as we move along and allow people to see more the game and more of what's going on and more of the story, people will get a better idea of the game. I think you can see that that reaction has started to die down a little bit. To answer the question that was posted on your blog, there are black members in the development team. We do have staff working on the game, who are aware of the historical background and we are constantly checking these kinds of things with them.

..phew....now that's clear..who would have thought that there were black people in africa :o

Source..

Angakua

It has kid been over for a while.

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I apologize for for calling you post ignorant, I worded it wrong as well. I felt you were hurting the situation more than helping it. People call each other out all the time about video games. Racisism is not even a valid topic in SW. I dont understand why there are bound to be complaints, no body complained about killing the spanish. Seems to me like people have double standards.

lolkie_81

I apologize if I am hurting a situation by telling the truth.

You also did not read my previous posts. There is a very logical explaination as to why some European Spanish did not complain. And why there were bound to be complaints from black people who first of: do not play video games and are ignorant to the premise of RE5.

I'm not justifying their complaints. I just understand why. Race is very touchy we just have to talk about it like adults.

Its hard for me to understand racism since I not racist.:? I really dont care, I am sick of this double standard. Jesse Jackson is going to castrait the developers of RE5.:P

Jesse Jackson is a fool sometimes :P. Double standards are bad. Please don't think black people in general are like this though.

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"]

I never said RE5 suggests this tension. I was only stating why there were no complaints about the European Spanish in RE4.

You can't call these people who got offended racicst.

1.) They are ignorant yes.
2.) They aren't gamers.
3.) They don't know the premise of RE5.
4.) They acted solely on knowing the footage of a white man shooing black people.
5.) They felt this way because of the racial tension and negative history between blacks and whites.

Episode_Eve

What i meant was RE5 was never about black vs. and will never be. Anyone who got offended by this only means they have the subject 24/7 on their heads and nit pick about every small detail, hence why I think they are racist.

Of course it was never about this black vs. white in Capcom's eyes. You have to take all sides into consideration (capcom's and black/white). The black people who were offended by the original RE5 trailer are not racist, and neither is Capcom. Now if they were gamers and knew the premise of the game this would be another story.

They are ignorant to the entire situation, mislead by the orginal trailer and quickly judged Capcom and RE5 and based it all on race. This does not make them racist though.

Just like the guy in this thread who said: "black people always think the world is against them." I don't think he's racist, just ignorant to the situation.

If you still believe they are racist then that's you, I'm not sure what to say.

[QUOTE="lolkie_81"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="lolkie_81"]

I apologize for for calling you post ignorant, I worded it wrong as well. I felt you were hurting the situation more than helping it. People call each other out all the time about video games. Racisism is not even a valid topic in SW. I dont understand why there are bound to be complaints, no body complained about killing the spanish. Seems to me like people have double standards.

Episode_Eve

I apologize if I am hurting a situation by telling the truth.

You also did not read my previous posts. There is a very logical explaination as to why some European Spanish did not complain. And why there were bound to be complaints from black people who first of: do not play video games and are ignorant to the premise of RE5.

I'm not justifying their complaints. I just understand why. Race is very touchy we just have to talk about it like adults.

Its hard for me to understand racism since I not racist.:? I really dont care, I am sick of this double standard. Jesse Jackson is going to castrait the developers of RE5.:P

Jesse Jackson is a fool sometimes :P. Double standards are bad. Please don't think black people in general are like this though.

Can someone please lock or delete this thread

Can someone please lock or delete this thread

J_Swayze

my creation is out of my hands now..."shoots self"

the majority of people living in africa are black?? AFRICA IS RACIST!!!

I fail to see how RE5 is even remotely racist, and I really don't see how anyone could possibly say otherwise.

My god, who gives a ****.

People need to stop instigating stuff that doesnt need it.

I hate N'Gai Croal for stirring racist **** up about this game. You'd think being a game journalist would make him know better but all he did was confuse people while there was only ONE trailer out. Never liked that chubby bastard anyway...Trelaf_TheWise

eat him ...

Domo-Kun!!

This whole situation is stupid.

SolidTy

That was all you needed to post. There's nothing more to add to this conversation.