There are only 5 System Sellers: Halo, GTA, Gran Turismo, Mario, Pokemon

Halo pretty much sold the original XBOX by itself, and I have never seen a gaming craze and hype like is going on right now for Halo 3. It was on the cover of Time magazine! Grand Theft Auto 3 helped move PS2 into the position that made it ultimately win (I personally bought a PS2 back in the day only to play GTA3). The next GTA will likely be a big event, and will sell like crazy. Gran Turismo, to a lesser extent, is also a system seller, but I imagine that upon release there will be less of an impact on the gaming community like Halo has and GTA probably will. When Mario releases on Wii, I imagine that it will sell well too, but there will not be much mainstream media hype. And Pokemon somehow manages to sell like crazy. These games make people BUY systems. IMO these are the only legit system sellers.

Final Fantasy and MGS are great, and they sell a lot, but don't expect even a fraction of the craze when they are released as you see right now with Halo 3 (I keep seeing people here say that MGS will sell like Halo 3- no way).

Halo pretty much sold the original XBOX by itself, and I have never seen a gaming craze and hype like is going on right now for Halo 3. It was on the cover of Time magazine! Grand Theft Auto 3 helped move PS2 into the position that made it ultimately win (I personally bought a PS2 back in the day only to play GTA3). The next GTA will likely be a big event, and will sell like crazy. Gran Turismo, to a lesser extent, is also a system seller, but I imagine that upon release there will be less of an impact on the gaming community like Halo has and GTA probably will. When Mario releases on Wii, I imagine that it will sell well too, but there will not be much mainstream media hype. And Pokemon somehow manages to sell like crazy. These games make people BUY systems. IMO these are the only legit system sellers.

Final Fantasy and MGS are great, and they sell a lot, but don't expect even a fraction of the craze when they are released as you see right now with Halo 3 (I keep seeing people here say that MGS will sell like Halo 3- no way).

accameron

mgs is in the same boat as halo was on the xbox.mmirza23

[QUOTE="mmirza23"] mgs is in the same boat as halo was on the xbox.nyoroism

MGS is awesome

Final Fantasy is definitely a system seller. Millions of people buy the console with the final fantasy loving.osirisomeomi

FF7 sold a ton of PS1s

[QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="mmirza23"] mgs is in the same boat as halo was on the xbox.ParasiteDemon

MGS is awesome

[QUOTE="mmirza23"] mgs is in the same boat as halo was on the xbox.nyoroism

Final Fantasy is a system seller.
So is Zelda. I'd say MGS too.DireToad

I agree with FF and Zelda. I think MGS is kind of a system seller.

Halo pretty much sold the original XBOX by itself, and I have never seen a gaming craze and hype like is going on right now for Halo 3. It was on the cover of Time magazine! Grand Theft Auto 3 helped move PS2 into the position that made it ultimately win (I personally bought a PS2 back in the day only to play GTA3). The next GTA will likely be a big event, and will sell like crazy. Gran Turismo, to a lesser extent, is also a system seller, but I imagine that upon release there will be less of an impact on the gaming community like Halo has and GTA probably will. When Mario releases on Wii, I imagine that it will sell well too, but there will not be much mainstream media hype. And Pokemon somehow manages to sell like crazy. These games make people BUY systems. IMO these are the only legit system sellers.

Final Fantasy and MGS are great, and they sell a lot, but don't expect even a fraction of the craze when they are released as you see right now with Halo 3 (I keep seeing people here say that MGS will sell like Halo 3- no way).

accameron

[QUOTE="accameron"]

Halo pretty much sold the original XBOX by itself, and I have never seen a gaming craze and hype like is going on right now for Halo 3. It was on the cover of Time magazine! Grand Theft Auto 3 helped move PS2 into the position that made it ultimately win (I personally bought a PS2 back in the day only to play GTA3). The next GTA will likely be a big event, and will sell like crazy. Gran Turismo, to a lesser extent, is also a system seller, but I imagine that upon release there will be less of an impact on the gaming community like Halo has and GTA probably will. When Mario releases on Wii, I imagine that it will sell well too, but there will not be much mainstream media hype. And Pokemon somehow manages to sell like crazy. These games make people BUY systems. IMO these are the only legit system sellers.

Final Fantasy and MGS are great, and they sell a lot, but don't expect even a fraction of the craze when they are released as you see right now with Halo 3 (I keep seeing people here say that MGS will sell like Halo 3- no way).

mmirza23

I keep seeing arguments like yours here on SW. MGS sells well, yes. However, most of my friends who own consoles either have never heard of it, or could care less about it. And I know a lot of people who own video games. They do care about Madden, NBA games, GTA, Halo, and maybe Mario, but MGS is not a factor for most people I know. MGS sells really well among its fans, but again it is a niche title that just happens to sell more copies than most. Outside of SW, there is almost no one who will buy a $600 PS3 just to play MGS. Also, another reason that Halo sells so well is that it is a social event- people get together to play Halo (like Madden), and it is a fun experience with friends, unlike MGS. It just will not compare to Halo 3.

List of franchises with more than 10 million units sold.

1. Mario (193 million)[155]
2. Pokémon (155 million)[155]
3. The Sims (90 million)[108]
4. Final Fantasy (75 million)[156]
5. Tetris (60 million)[157]
6. Madden NFL (60 million)[158]
7. The Legend of Zelda (52 million)[159]
8. Grand Theft Auto (48 million)[160]
9. Donkey Kong (48 million)[160][155]
10. Gran Turismo (44 million)[161]

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best_selling_video_games

Mario and Pokemon, yes

Gta, yes

GT, yes

HALO?

Add Zelda and Final fantasy`?

38. Halo (15 million)

Oh yeah! SYSTEM SELLER!

And don't "it have 2 games in series only" because same NINTENDOGS which beat it.

Brain Age is probably a system seller too.DireToad

Nintendogs with that also

There are too many games that sell consoles to count. Period. Here are some:

• Mario (+ Mario Kart, SSB)
• Pokemon (handhelds only)
• Final Fantasy
• Metal Gear Solid
• Zelda
• Halo
• Gran Turismo
• GTA
• Hot Shots Golf (Japan)
• Wii Sports
• Nintendogs
• Brain Training
• WiiFit (believe)
• Dragon Quest (Japan)

really any gamecan be a system seller. maybe not to a mass like halo, or gran turismo, i bought the ps 2 because of onimusia.

[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="mmirza23"] mgs is in the same boat as halo was on the xbox.nyoroism

EDIT: So you're saying Halo sold so much because there was nothing else? That's stupid, if there wasn't anything else nobody would have bought the XBOX.

Halo pretty much sold the original XBOX by itself, and I have never seen a gaming craze and hype like is going on right now for Halo 3. It was on the cover of Time magazine! Grand Theft Auto 3 helped move PS2 into the position that made it ultimately win (I personally bought a PS2 back in the day only to play GTA3). The next GTA will likely be a big event, and will sell like crazy. Gran Turismo, to a lesser extent, is also a system seller, but I imagine that upon release there will be less of an impact on the gaming community like Halo has and GTA probably will. When Mario releases on Wii, I imagine that it will sell well too, but there will not be much mainstream media hype. And Pokemon somehow manages to sell like crazy. These games make people BUY systems. IMO these are the only legit system sellers.

Final Fantasy and MGS are great, and they sell a lot, but don't expect even a fraction of the craze when they are released as you see right now with Halo 3 (I keep seeing people here say that MGS will sell like Halo 3- no way).

accameron

You do realize that FF is the 4th best selling franchise of all time? Yes, there have been more FF games than Halo, but FF7 alone sold better than Halo 1 or 2. I'm not saying Halo is not a system seller, but there are a lot more system selling games than just Mario, pokemon (1st and 2nd best selling franchises) GT, GTA and Halo (which was 40th, prior to H3's release). FF have always sold systems. Metroid sells systems, and Zelda. MGS sells systems. RE was a system seller before it went all multiplat. It's still a system seller, just not limited to one system. There are something like 50-60 video games franchises that have sold over 10 million units. Any one of them can justifiably be called a system seller. Actually, for that matter, any individual game that sells more than 1 or 2 million is a system seller, as chances are out of that 1 or 2 million there are a lot of people who buy the system just for that one game.

[QUOTE="nyoroism"]

[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="mmirza23"] mgs is in the same boat as halo was on the xbox.mmirza23

EDIT: So you're saying Halo sold so much because there was nothing else? That's stupid, if there wasn't anything else nobody would have bought the XBOX.

Lack of quality? You gave these scores

Heavenly Sword (PS3)8.5S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl (PC)9.0Supreme Commander (PC)8.5Command & Conquer 3 Tiberium Wars (PC)9.0Virtua Fighter 5 (PS3)8.5BioShock (PC)9.5Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 (PS3)9.0MLB 07: The Show (PS3)8.5Ninja Gaiden Sigma (PS3)9.5The Darkness (PS3)9.0

It has 3 AAA and 3 high AA, that's not so bad after less than a year...

[QUOTE="accameron"]

Halo pretty much sold the original XBOX by itself, and I have never seen a gaming craze and hype like is going on right now for Halo 3. It was on the cover of Time magazine! Grand Theft Auto 3 helped move PS2 into the position that made it ultimately win (I personally bought a PS2 back in the day only to play GTA3). The next GTA will likely be a big event, and will sell like crazy. Gran Turismo, to a lesser extent, is also a system seller, but I imagine that upon release there will be less of an impact on the gaming community like Halo has and GTA probably will. When Mario releases on Wii, I imagine that it will sell well too, but there will not be much mainstream media hype. And Pokemon somehow manages to sell like crazy. These games make people BUY systems. IMO these are the only legit system sellers.

Final Fantasy and MGS are great, and they sell a lot, but don't expect even a fraction of the craze when they are released as you see right now with Halo 3 (I keep seeing people here say that MGS will sell like Halo 3- no way).

ianuilliam

You do realize that FF is the 4th best selling franchise of all time? Yes, there have been more FF games than Halo, but FF7 alone sold better than Halo 1 or 2. I'm not saying Halo is not a system seller, but there are a lot more system selling games than just Mario, pokemon (1st and 2nd best selling franchises) GT, GTA and Halo (which was 40th, prior to H3's release). FF have always sold systems. Metroid sells systems, and Zelda. MGS sells systems. RE was a system seller before it went all multiplat. It's still a system seller, just not limited to one system. There are something like 50-60 video games franchises that have sold over 10 million units. Any one of them can justifiably be called a system seller. Actually, for that matter, any individual game that sells more than 1 or 2 million is a system seller, as chances are out of that 1 or 2 million there are a lot of people who buy the system just for that one game.

Yeah, I know that Final Fantasy has sold a ton. But my biggest complaint is that the biggest selling one (FF7) was like 10 years ago. Also, when you have 12 main FF games, plus COUNTLESS spinoffs and remakes, you are bound to have huge sales. My definition of a true system seller is what you see right now with Halo 3- lines at the store of people buying the game + the system.

GTA is multiplat, so no, it is NOT a system seller.l-_-l

:lol: Why not? It'll just push sales up for ALL the consoles its on. lol.

MGS and Final Fantasy are system sellers. I bought my ps3 mostly for those two games.:|

I think any game that can sell 3 million units worldwide on any system at any time is a system seller. I think you are just picking out some of the top tier games and forgetting the rest.

Gears of War , Wii Sports , and Zelda TP are systems sellers for their respective platforms so far and obviously Halo 3 will be the next one.

Halo pretty much sold the original XBOX by itself, and I have never seen a gaming craze and hype like is going on right now for Halo 3. It was on the cover of Time magazine! Grand Theft Auto 3 helped move PS2 into the position that made it ultimately win (I personally bought a PS2 back in the day only to play GTA3). The next GTA will likely be a big event, and will sell like crazy. Gran Turismo, to a lesser extent, is also a system seller, but I imagine that upon release there will be less of an impact on the gaming community like Halo has and GTA probably will. When Mario releases on Wii, I imagine that it will sell well too, but there will not be much mainstream media hype. And Pokemon somehow manages to sell like crazy. These games make people BUY systems. IMO these are the only legit system sellers.

Final Fantasy and MGS are great, and they sell a lot, but don't expect even a fraction of the craze when they are released as you see right now with Halo 3 (I keep seeing people here say that MGS will sell like Halo 3- no way).accameron

Actually, Final Fantasy and MGS are far bigger system sellers than GTA and Gran Turismo. So is Zelda. Many people bought a Wii for that version of Twilight Princess, and Ocarina of Time was a major selling point for the N64 as well. And Final Fantasy 7 paved the way for the PS1 to be winning console of it's generation, which Metal Gear Solid also played a major role in that.

GTA and Gran Turismo are large sellers, but they don't have nearly the influence on which console people will buy as FF, MGS, and Zelda.

However, I predict GTA and Resident Evil will become system sellers. Already Resident Evil 4 could be held responsible for part of the Gamecube's success.

Gran Turismo will probably just stay forever a really good selling racing game, unless somehow they become really popular.

[QUOTE="l-_-l"]GTA is multiplat, so no, it is NOT a system seller.groudyogre

:lol: Why not? It'll just push sales up for ALL the consoles its on. lol.

The next GTA will likely be a big event, and will sell like crazy. Gran Turismo, to a lesser extent, is also a system seller, but I imagine that upon release there will be less of an impact on the gaming community like Halo has and GTA probably will.

accameron

Yea, that's why Gran Turismo has contiously outsold Halo right? Nice try, Sony hater.

You left out Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid.

But yes, the ones you mentioned are system sellers (Mario platfomers, and Pokemon handheld RPGs only).

he next GTA will likely be a big event, and will sell like crazy. Gran Turismo, to a lesser extent, is also a system seller, but I imagine that upon release there will be less of an impact on the gaming community like Halo has and GTA probably will.

accameron

I personally think GT5 will outsell both GTAIV and Halo 3. And with a significant difference too. A few million, not just 1 or 2.

I'm not gonna guess it will be the best selling game of the gen though, cause Nintendo could bring out something like Nintendogs for Wii and cause a sales storm.

[QUOTE="mmirza23"] mgs is in the same boat as halo was on the xbox.nyoroism