There is no such thing as a console seller.

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#1 Ptolemaueus
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No one game can sell a console.  People won't buy a PS3 just to play MGS4 alone.  They won't buy the 360 just to play Halo 3, or a Wii for Smash Bros.  These games may influence their decisions, sure, but they won't make a person buy it just for that game.  It's all the games on that system combined that will determine whether a person buys a system or not.  You people don't seem to know this.

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GTA... PS2... Oh, I see.
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No one game can sell a console. People won't buy a PS3 just to play MGS4 alone. They won't buy the 360 just to play Halo 3, or a Wii for Smash Bros. These games may influence their decisions, sure, but they won't make a person buy it just for that game. It's all the games on that system combined that will determine whether a person buys a system or not. You people don't seem to know this.

Ptolemaueus
Xbox1 - Halo = nothing..... People bought the Xbox for Halo and not the other way around....
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#4 deadmeat59
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yes and no i am 50 50 on that! nintendo fans get nintendo system for mario and zelda.
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I bought a gamecube just for RE4.. and eventaully bought Remake and 0.. the only two i hadent played..(and double dash for the g/f .. girls love them some mario kart)  so.. ya.. theres such thing as a system seller... I've bought a few games other than RE4.. but, if it wasent for RE4 I never would have bought the system or those other games... ill probably pick up a few others at some point too (MP, the zeldas... possibly RE2 since my ps1 disc's are rediculusly messed up and that game f'in rocks).

And, i'll probably buy a ps3 for super rub-a-dub.. though the ps3 was just a matter of time.
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#6 Ptolemaueus
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[QUOTE="Ptolemaueus"]

No one game can sell a console. People won't buy a PS3 just to play MGS4 alone. They won't buy the 360 just to play Halo 3, or a Wii for Smash Bros. These games may influence their decisions, sure, but they won't make a person buy it just for that game. It's all the games on that system combined that will determine whether a person buys a system or not. You people don't seem to know this.

Viviath

Xbox1 - Halo = nothing..... People bought the Xbox for Halo and not the other way around....

Halo influenced their decision.  It held a greater influence than the other games, but still.  Would they have bought the Xbox if Halo was the only game?

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No one game can sell a console.  People won't buy a PS3 just to play MGS4 alone.  They won't buy the 360 just to play Halo 3, or a Wii for Smash Bros.Ptolemaueus

yes they will. :|

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#8 Ptolemaueus
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Would you people have bought the system if your "system seller" was the only game on there?  No, I don't think so.

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#9 Viviath
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[QUOTE="Viviath"][QUOTE="Ptolemaueus"]

No one game can sell a console. People won't buy a PS3 just to play MGS4 alone. They won't buy the 360 just to play Halo 3, or a Wii for Smash Bros. These games may influence their decisions, sure, but they won't make a person buy it just for that game. It's all the games on that system combined that will determine whether a person buys a system or not. You people don't seem to know this.

Ptolemaueus

Xbox1 - Halo = nothing..... People bought the Xbox for Halo and not the other way around....

Halo influenced their decision. It held a greater influence than the other games, but still. Would they have bought the Xbox if Halo was the only game?

About 3 out of the 9 people i know who have Xboxs only Have Halo 1 and 2 then they have a PS2.
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#10 Thug_Pikachu
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Halo CE sold xbox , not the other way around . /thread
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#11 cheatymcshifty
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Well.. since i've probably played Re4 for more than 70-80 hours.. and both the other re's for about 8.. and double dash for about 2.. ya.. i probably woudla bought it jsut for re4.. that game rocked.. it made capcom one of the top devolpers in my mind, and ya.. it sold the system.. 
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#12 nnavidson
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Would you people have bought the system if your "system seller" was the only game on there?  No, I don't think so.

Ptolemaueus

If one game pushes you into buying the system, it's a system seller.  Sure there's other games on the system, but you don't really want them.  You just name them to justify spending so much money to play one game.  For example, I bought the PS1 to play FF7.  I ended up buying other games in the long run, but if FF7 wasn't released, I'm not sure I would have ever purchased it.

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#13 aroxx_ab
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I know many that buy new console just for 1 game, all other games just a bonus. I will buy Ps3 mainly because of MGS4, blue ray player just a bonus :)

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#14 CJL13
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No one buys a console because they feel like it, they buy it for games.

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#15 lawsonboy
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No one game can sell a console. People won't buy a PS3 just to play MGS4 alone. They won't buy the 360 just to play Halo 3, or a Wii for Smash Bros. These games may influence their decisions, sure, but they won't make a person buy it just for that game. It's all the games on that system combined that will determine whether a person buys a system or not. You people don't seem to know this.

Ptolemaueus


Wrong!  Halo became the only reason to buy an original xbox and I know 5 people personally that went and bought one after playing that game.  I think Gears of War is a system seller, but Halo3 will be a system seller for a lot of people sitting on the fence about next gen. consoles.

GTA is a system seller for me.  If it wasn't coming to the 360, I would find a way to buy a PS3 just for that one game.  As it stands, their aren't any system sellers for the PS3 that I can see.
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No one game can sell a console.  People won't buy a PS3 just to play MGS4 alone.  They won't buy the 360 just to play Halo 3, or a Wii for Smash Bros.  These games may influence their decisions, sure, but they won't make a person buy it just for that game.  It's all the games on that system combined that will determine whether a person buys a system or not.  You people don't seem to know this.

Ptolemaueus
xbox1 and halo2 sales disagree with you.  most games are multi platform,  so people know they aren't limited to one game,  but one game can lead people to get the console that single game is on in addition to the mutli platform.  console makers dont invest in exclusives just to waste money.
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#17 Ptolemaueus
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So you people are telling me that you bought your systems to play ONE game only and not to play any of the other games?
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No one game can sell a console.  People won't buy a PS3 just to play MGS4 alone.  They won't buy the 360 just to play Halo 3, or a Wii for Smash Bros.  These games may influence their decisions, sure, but they won't make a person buy it just for that game.  It's all the games on that system combined that will determine whether a person buys a system or not.  You people don't seem to know this.

Ptolemaueus

i know people who buy an entire system just for one game.

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#19 ringuzi
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i bought my xbox for halo 2 alone and sure i bought other games later but if halo 2 was the onyl game on xbox i would still buy it
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So you people are telling me that you bought your systems to play ONE game only and not to play any of the other games?Ptolemaueus

You need to take all multiplatform games out of the equation.  One exclusive will sway a huge portion of the general public.

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#21 CJL13
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So you people are telling me that you bought your systems to play ONE game only and not to play any of the other games?Ptolemaueus

I'm saying when people buy a console it's usually because of at least one game that looks intresting to them. That doesn't mean when they finish the game they'll never play the console again.

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[QUOTE="Ptolemaueus"]So you people are telling me that you bought your systems to play ONE game only and not to play any of the other games?nnavidson

You need to take all multiplatform games out of the equation.  One exclusive will sway a huge portion of the general public.

What I can't believe people are telling me is they will buy a console only for one game and not that game AND all the good exclusives for that console.

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#23 coasterlove
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There is no point arguing on either side of this debate. It's all a matter of opinion as everybody has a reason as to why they buy a system. For me personally, one or two games could heavily influence me to buy a system but it's much more complicated than that. Price comes into the equation as well. The PS3 for example, I would not buy for one or two games. A $600 price would not be justified for because of one or two games.

Now with the Wii, there was no real standout game for me. I'm not a Zelda fan but I realize the importance of that series for Nintendo. My reasons for getting a Wii were due to a very reasonable price, some fun interesting games and the games to come in the very near future. So I'm not one to usually buy a system because of just one or two games but I can see why many other gamers do.

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#24 BigDizz
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Halo is the ONLY reason I bought a xbox.

Halo is the ONLY reason there is even xbox 360 today

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Pokemon heavily disagrees with the TC.  It single-handedly brought the GB into a whole new era.
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So you people are telling me that you bought your systems to play ONE game only and not to play any of the other games?Ptolemaueus

Yepp, bought Wii ONLY because i wanted try play Zelda TP with wii-mote.

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There is no point arguing on either side of this debate. It's all a matter of opinion as everybody has a reason as to why they buy a system. For me personally, one or two games could heavily influence me to buy a system but it's much more complicated than that. Price comes into the equation as well. The PS3 for example, I would not buy for one or two games. A $600 price would not be justified for because of one or two games.

Now with the Wii, there was no real standout game for me. I'm not a Zelda fan but I realize the importance of that series for Nintendo. My reasons for getting a Wii were due to a very reasonable price, some fun interesting games and the games to come in the very near future. So I'm not one to usually buy a system because of just one or two games but I can see why many other gamers do.

coasterlove

That's pretty much the reason I get a console.  I don't understand why people would spend money on a console that has one game that really appeals to them.  I have to see if a game has a bunch of games that appeal to me.

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No one game can sell a console.  People won't buy a PS3 just to play MGS4 alone.  They won't buy the 360 just to play Halo 3, or a Wii for Smash Bros.  These games may influence their decisions, sure, but they won't make a person buy it just for that game.  It's all the games on that system combined that will determine whether a person buys a system or not.  You people don't seem to know this.

Ptolemaueus
Halo may not be the sole reason people bought an Xbox, but it WAS the one game that MADE people finally give in to buy an Xbox (why is still beyond me, but its the truth). Same with Gears of war for the 360 for instance. There were games worth owning sure, but there really wasn't any game that made you say "I need to play that game" until gears came out. It isn't the sole game correct, but it is that specific game that is the final nail in the coffin for many, hense why games like that are called System Sellers. Sure no one is going to by a system for one game. You are an idiot if you do, but people will make their decision over one game.
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No one game can sell a console.  People won't buy a PS3 just to play MGS4 alone.  They won't buy the 360 just to play Halo 3, or a Wii for Smash Bros.  These games may influence their decisions, sure, but they won't make a person buy it just for that game.  It's all the games on that system combined that will determine whether a person buys a system or not.  You people don't seem to know this.

Ptolemaueus
Thats really the point. Tipping the balance in either direction.
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#30 coasterlove
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Also keep in mind that it might not always be the game itself but the hype a system gets based on one game. Halo would be the best example. For the Xbox, that game made so much hype, it helped sell the system for those who may not have even got the game. The Wii could be a good example with Wii Sports. A lot of people like or love the game but some may not. Although the hype of that game help gets a lot of publicity for the system. So there may be people who haven't any serious interest but due to always hearing about it and it's unique control style could interest people.

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No one game can sell a console. People won't buy a PS3 just to play MGS4 alone. They won't buy the 360 just to play Halo 3, or a Wii for Smash Bros. These games may influence their decisions, sure, but they won't make a person buy it just for that game. It's all the games on that system combined that will determine whether a person buys a system or not. You people don't seem to know this.

Ptolemaueus
wth? I don't know about you but a lot of people buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games, you know, games like pokemon, zelda, mario etc.
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#32 amtentori
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yes there are...

smash brothers, halo, and gta were all console sellers..
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#33 inter_wog
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No one game can sell a console. People won't buy a PS3 just to play MGS4 alone. They won't buy the 360 just to play Halo 3, or a Wii for Smash Bros. These games may influence their decisions, sure, but they won't make a person buy it just for that game. It's all the games on that system combined that will determine whether a person buys a system or not. You people don't seem to know this.

Ptolemaueus
wtf? i'm buying a ds lite for pokemon diamond. that's it. no other games. ever (can't afford it cos then i'll have too many systems). just a ds lite and pokemon diamond.
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I will prove there is such a thing as a system seller. The thing is no game is worth $650 but when RE4 came out GC's started to sell very well. Truely no one will buy a console for one game there are always others but one can sway your desicion one way or another.
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#35 Ptolemaueus
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[QUOTE="Ptolemaueus"]

No one game can sell a console. People won't buy a PS3 just to play MGS4 alone. They won't buy the 360 just to play Halo 3, or a Wii for Smash Bros. These games may influence their decisions, sure, but they won't make a person buy it just for that game. It's all the games on that system combined that will determine whether a person buys a system or not. You people don't seem to know this.

inter_wog

wtf? i'm buying a ds lite for pokemon diamond. that's it. no other games. ever (can't afford it cos then i'll have too many systems). just a ds lite and pokemon diamond.

No offense, but that doesn't seem very smart.

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No one game can sell a console.  People won't buy a PS3 just to play MGS4 alone.  They won't buy the 360 just to play Halo 3, or a Wii for Smash Bros.  These games may influence their decisions, sure, but they won't make a person buy it just for that game.  It's all the games on that system combined that will determine whether a person buys a system or not.  You people don't seem to know this.

Ptolemaueus
Hate to burst your bubble but I owned a PS2 for only one reason...GTA series. That's right just 3 games, all GTA's. The only reason I got them for the PS2 instead of my Xbox was because the PS2 got them first and I didn't want to wait for them to come to the Xbox ( Patience is NOT one of my virtues.) So in my case yes there was a system seller involved and it proves that system sellers do exist. I bought my PS2 for the one and only use of playing GTA's.
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Would you people have bought the system if your "system seller" was the only game on there?  No, I don't think so.

Ptolemaueus
Halo? GTA? Yes I would buy a system just for these games if they were the only games on a system.
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#38 Wintry_Flutist
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Halo is the ONLY reason I bought a xbox.

Halo is the ONLY reason there is even xbox 360 today

BigDizz

And thanks to Halo, Halo isn't anymore the ONLY reason why one should own a 360.

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[QUOTE="ringuzi"]i bought my xbox for halo 2 alone and sure i bought other games later but if halo 2 was the onyl game on xbox i would still buy it

Me to.
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Amidst everything else a console may come with, if a certain game influenced you to lean over to the purchase of a console, than in that respect, that game was a system seller.

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[QUOTE="inter_wog"][QUOTE="Ptolemaueus"]

No one game can sell a console. People won't buy a PS3 just to play MGS4 alone. They won't buy the 360 just to play Halo 3, or a Wii for Smash Bros. These games may influence their decisions, sure, but they won't make a person buy it just for that game. It's all the games on that system combined that will determine whether a person buys a system or not. You people don't seem to know this.

Ptolemaueus

wtf? i'm buying a ds lite for pokemon diamond. that's it. no other games. ever (can't afford it cos then i'll have too many systems). just a ds lite and pokemon diamond.

No offense, but that doesn't seem very smart.

Why? I'm not exactly poor. and regardless, it doesn't matter whether that 'seems' smart to you, i'm doing it, therefore disproving your thread.
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[QUOTE="Ptolemaueus"]

No one game can sell a console. People won't buy a PS3 just to play MGS4 alone. They won't buy the 360 just to play Halo 3, or a Wii for Smash Bros. These games may influence their decisions, sure, but they won't make a person buy it just for that game. It's all the games on that system combined that will determine whether a person buys a system or not. You people don't seem to know this.

Viviath
Xbox1 - Halo = nothing..... People bought the Xbox for Halo and not the other way around....


    Seconded. And PS2 without GTA3 would not have been so successful. Games sell systems, not the other way around.
    Why do you think PS3 sales are so slow? There are not "must own" games for it yet. I guarantee, when some "must own" games release, sales pick up greatly.
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#43 solidgamer
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70-80% of xbox owners had halo or halo2
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#44 Richyd13
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 if the wii wasnt getting a new smash bros i would not be getting it. sure i'll get other games, but if there was no smash bros then i would not own a wii.
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#45 godhandiscen
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I got my 360 to play Halo.
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No one game can sell a console.Ptolemaueus

Yes it can. Just ask Bungie and Epic.

They won't buy the 360 just to play Halo 3 Ptolemaueus

Yes they will. Just ask...well anyone with a brain.

You people don't seem to know this.Ptolemaueus

And you dont seem to get that games do in fact sell consoles.

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#47 Roysensei
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I disagree. The console seller is the SOFTWARE.
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#48 TroublemakerTM
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Ptolemareus, that is just an ignorant statement. Saying something like that without proof or considering the possibilities isn't the best way to speak your mind. Of course there are people that will buy the console just for one game. I know some people myself as do other people have already posted. So your statement becomes invalid. So next time, don't make comments that sound like it's a fact when it really isn't. People will just prove you wrong and it makes you look like an idiot. Have a nice day. *dun dun nneee*
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#49 gingerdivid
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Super Mario bros NES, and Halo for the Xbox beg to differ.
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#50 HeedleGlavin
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Super Mario bros NES, and Halo for the Xbox beg to differ.gingerdivid
My thoughts exactly.