There's no defending Microsoft points

[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Ninja-Bear"]

Easily the worst aspect of xbox live in my opinion. Right now i want to rent the Hurt Locker, which is 350 MS points. I have 340. So i need to buy 10 - just 10 more. :( But Microsoft will only let me buy 500. Is that not just ridiculous? You need 10 points, and are forced to either do without whatever purchase you want to make or buy 500 points instead.

Microsoft would be much better off if they were more considerate of their customers and stopped trying to make a quick penny here and there through stuff like this. And aside from making you buy the points in blocks; why not just let you buy your stuff in ACTUAL MONEY?

johnusabeis

Same goes with PSN cards, you will always have left overs and have to buy more points regardless.

I actually prefer points because since it's "made up money", dozens of companies like Old Spice that will give you free points if you purchase their product. I haven't seen any promotion that gives away PSN cards. That's probably because it uses "real money".

Same goes with PSN cards, you will always have left overs and have to buy more points regardless.

I actually prefer points because since it's "made up money", dozens of companies like Old Spice that will give you free points if you purchase their product. I haven't seen any promotion that gives away PSN cards. That's probably because it uses "real money".

gago-gago

It's called a debit/credit card, you're old enough to own one right?

Same goes with PSN cards, you will always have left overs and have to buy more points regardless.

I actually prefer points because since it's "made up money", dozens of companies like Old Spice that will give you free points if you purchase their product. I haven't seen any promotion that gives away PSN cards. That's probably because it uses "real money".

gago-gago

Same goes with PSN cards, you will always have left overs and have to buy more points regardless.

I actually prefer points because since it's "made up money", dozens of companies like Old Spice that will give you free points if you purchase their product. I haven't seen any promotion that gives away PSN cards. That's probably because it uses "real money".

gago-gago

[QUOTE="gago-gago"]

Same goes with PSN cards, you will always have left overs and have to buy more points regardless.

I actually prefer points because since it's "made up money", dozens of companies like Old Spice that will give you free points if you purchase their product. I haven't seen any promotion that gives away PSN cards. That's probably because it uses "real money".

Gxgear

It's called a debit/credit card, you're old enough to own one right?

[QUOTE="gago-gago"]

Same goes with PSN cards, you will always have left overs and have to buy more points regardless.

I actually prefer points because since it's "made up money", dozens of companies like Old Spice that will give you free points if you purchase their product. I haven't seen any promotion that gives away PSN cards. That's probably because it uses "real money".

toast_burner

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[QUOTE="gago-gago"]

Same goes with PSN cards, you will always have left overs and have to buy more points regardless.

I actually prefer points because since it's "made up money", dozens of companies like Old Spice that will give you free points if you purchase their product. I haven't seen any promotion that gives away PSN cards. That's probably because it uses "real money".

gago-gago

I would like pinpoint buying methods like psn, but its not a big deal. I guess I am just happy to have extra on reserve even if I didnt want it.

Yeah, it's kinda crappy, but what other choice do you have? You might as well accept it, and move on with your life.

Easily the worst aspect of xbox live in my opinion. Right now i want to rent the Hurt Locker, which is 350 MS points. I have 340. So i need to buy 10 - just 10 more. :( But Microsoft will only let me buy 500. Is that not just ridiculous? You need 10 points, and are forced to either do without whatever purchase you want to make or buy 500 points instead.

Microsoft would be much better off if they were more considerate of their customers and stopped trying to make a quick penny here and there through stuff like this. And aside from making you buy the points in blocks; why not just let you buy your stuff in ACTUAL MONEY?

[QUOTE="fenwickhotmail"][QUOTE="nmaharg"] Yet PSN doesn't....Gxgear

Must be a EU thing then, because from my experience PSN charges exactly how much you spend, no more no less.

Hm, pretty sure PSN still has the 5 dollar minimum in the US. I purchased something about a month or so ago and it told me I to put five bucks into my "wallet", even though the item was cheaper than that.

[QUOTE="KittenWishes"]You're not forced to buy them, get over it. Do you walk around shops complaining they they sell products at $5.99 or $8.95? I doubt it.InsaneBasura

^^This.

It's ingenious way for MS to keep your change. Why do you think themes, profile pictures and avatar clothes cost like 100 MS points? It's so that you're tempted to purchase them with your left over points.

this is one of the moments where I forget why some PS3 owners are considered "Cows"....this the true definition of milking.

It's not even an opinion. It's a fact that the system's currencies order PS3 > Wii > 360.

PSN - Pay the exact price. No extra charging. No calculating.

Wii - You can only buy points by the 1000's ($10). So if I game is 700 points ($7), you must buy 1000 points ($10).

360 - I don't understand why they would make a dumb system like this. Not even the fact that you have left over points/money, it's just they made it one some absolute random scale. 1500 points is some stupid amount. The system doesn't even make sense. At least with the Nintendo one, you can calculate points to dollars without thinking.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

[QUOTE="fenwickhotmail"] You have to buy at least 5 pounds last time I used it.TreyoftheDead

Must be a EU thing then, because from my experience PSN charges exactly how much you spend, no more no less.

Hm, pretty sure PSN still has the 5 dollar minimum in the US. I purchased something about a month or so ago and it told me I to put five bucks into my "wallet", even though the item was cheaper than that.

Download the zune software on your computer. Then you can use it to listen to music and use the zune marketplace on your computer. Also MS points are sold in values of400 points ($5) on zune

was that movie the LAST thing you will buy on XBL? most likely not... so big deal, buy some extra points.... you will have points left over for future purchases.

and where did TC find the hurt locker on xbl? i cant find it anywhere.johnusabeis

psn is terribleAD216

You probably haven't even spent a second on PSN. All you got is 360 games.

[QUOTE="AD216"]psn is terribleConjuration

You probably haven't even spent a second on PSN. All you got is 360 games.

[QUOTE="Conjuration"]

[QUOTE="AD216"]psn is terribleAD216

You probably haven't even spent a second on PSN. All you got is 360 games.

Ever heard of PS John?
I'm having a flashback to that scenario.

[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="Conjuration"]

You probably haven't even spent a second on PSN. All you got is 360 games.

Conjuration

Ever heard of PS John?
I'm having a flashback to that scenario.

i never understood why ppl get on here representin companies who really couldnt care less about em. PS3 is a great system with a terrible network. accept it and move on.

AD216

Ok,let's just move on.

[QUOTE="AD216"]

i never understood why ppl get on here representin companies who really couldnt care less about em. PS3 is a great system with a terrible network. accept it and move on.

Ok,let's just move on.

[QUOTE="johnusabeis"]and where did TC find the hurt locker on xbl? i cant find it anywhere.Ninja-Bear

Easily the worst aspect of xbox live in my opinion. Right now i want to rent the Hurt Locker, which is 350 MS points. I have 340. So i need to buy 10 - just 10 more. :( But Microsoft will only let me buy 500. Is that not just ridiculous? You need 10 points, and are forced to either do without whatever purchase you want to make or buy 500 points instead.

Microsoft would be much better off if they were more considerate of their customers and stopped trying to make a quick penny here and there through stuff like this. And aside from making you buy the points in blocks; why not just let you buy your stuff in ACTUAL MONEY?

Ninja-Bear

was that movie the LAST thing you will buy on XBL? most likely not... so big deal, buy some extra points.... you will have points left over for future purchases.

ogvampire

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

was that movie the LAST thing you will buy on XBL? most likely not... so big deal, buy some extra points.... you will have points left over for future purchases.

Javy03

thats true, but XBL has some cheap games too... with a little planning, im sure you can use just the right amount of points or close to it....

[QUOTE="Ninja-Bear"]

Easily the worst aspect of xbox live in my opinion. Right now i want to rent the Hurt Locker, which is 350 MS points. I have 340. So i need to buy 10 - just 10 more. :( But Microsoft will only let me buy 500. Is that not just ridiculous? You need 10 points, and are forced to either do without whatever purchase you want to make or buy 500 points instead.

Microsoft would be much better off if they were more considerate of their customers and stopped trying to make a quick penny here and there through stuff like this. And aside from making you buy the points in blocks; why not just let you buy your stuff in ACTUAL MONEY?

mythrol

thats true, but XBL has some cheap games too... with a little planning, im sure you can use just the right amount of points or close to it....

ogvampire

There is nothing wrong with complaining or wanting better. We are consumers, don't make it easy for companies to take your money.

Simply put; we disagree. I find your logic to be the exact problem really - you want to put the blame on the customer, defending the practice of the company when it should be the other way around. Companies CAN get away with stuff like this because apologists tell the people who have to put up with it that it's their own fault.

Ninja-Bear

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

thats true, but XBL has some cheap games too... with a little planning, im sure you can use just the right amount of points or close to it....

Javy03

There is nothing wrong with complaining or wanting better. We are consumers, don't make it easy for companies to take your money.

well, i dont think XBL will be going away anytime soon... im sure we would be adding and subtracting points for years to come... plus, with this lawsuit, maybe ms will change their system

i dont really care tbh.

But i will say i prefer the use of currency like the £ or the$ as i feel more aware as to whats value for money tbh.Where as with say a points system i dont feel as in control in a sense.Cause it translates to my head and me working out how much wiill be left in my bank account much easier than that of a points system.

[QUOTE="Javy03"]

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

thats true, but XBL has some cheap games too... with a little planning, im sure you can use just the right amount of points or close to it....

ogvampire

There is nothing wrong with complaining or wanting better. We are consumers, don't make it easy for companies to take your money.

well, i dont think XBL will be going away anytime soon... im sure we would be adding and subtracting points for years to come... plus, with this lawsuit, maybe ms will change their system

Needless to say, I just don't care about the points system... I just bought PD on xbox live, had 400 pts, needed 400 more... could only buy 500 more... doesn't really affect me... so what I have an extra dollar and a quarter that I cant spend... way I see it, I buy enough stuff on XBLA that I will EVENTUALLY spend it all.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="Javy03"] Exactly, and that why the system sucks. You have to plan carefully your purchases buying things you wouldn't just to use credits you can't get back because you don't want to dump in another 10 to use your three remaining dollars. Again it's a system that has 0 benefit for the consumer and is just a way to milk them. So let's not defend it, let people complain, complaining lowered the price of the PS3, gave us a three year warranty for the 360, 1080p and HDMI for 360, dualshock for the PS3, etc..

There is nothing wrong with complaining or wanting better. We are consumers, don't make it easy for companies to take your money.

gamer620

well, i dont think XBL will be going away anytime soon... im sure we would be adding and subtracting points for years to come... plus, with this lawsuit, maybe ms will change their system

true, but you know how lawyers are...

Let's talk about what they sell in retail, they sell MS point cards, PSN cards, and Wii point cards. From what I mostly see, they sell 1600 & 4000 MS points, they sell $20 and $50 PSN cards, and I don't know about the Wii.

Most Arcade games on XBL are 800 MS points, so you can exactly buy two 800 MS points priced Arcade games with no left over with your purchase of a 1600 MS point card.

The problem with PSN cards is that items on the PSN store mostly ends with .99 cents. So if you buy two of the same priced games that were on XBL that cost 800 MS points, $10 each, you have to pay $9.99 for each on PSN which leaves you .02 cents.

If you buy these cards from retail, you will always have left overs and have to buy more regardless.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

thats true, but XBL has some cheap games too... with a little planning, im sure you can use just the right amount of points or close to it....

Javy03

There is nothing wrong with complaining or wanting better. We are consumers, don't make it easy for companies to take your money.