There's not a single console game out that looks as good as Gears 2 *56k*

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for ironcreed
ironcreed

14195

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 46

User Lists: 0

#401 ironcreed
Member since 2005 • 14195 Posts

Gears has the wet plastic look? Then you must dislike MGS4 and Uncharted.wapahala

Nice flamebait there, buddy. Niether MGS4 or Uncharted come even close to the plastic, wet look that Gears has in certain places....not even close. If anything, both of those games have a far more crisp, 'dry' look to them....except when there is an environment with water, lol. Either way, I know what appeals to me personally, and what does not. Therefore, I am not going to sit here and get into a fanboy gRafFiX war with you. To each their own, my friend.

Avatar image for GreenGoblin2099
GreenGoblin2099

16988

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#402 GreenGoblin2099
Member since 2004 • 16988 Posts

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Lol you're so full of BS its hillarious. :lol:

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

The UE3 is garbagio.

stvee101

And talking about Bioshock:

Love the game,but hate the engine it runs on.

BioShockOwnz

Funny how opinions change when your own BS and Bias get in the way,isn't it.

Lmao!!! I always thought BioShockOwnz was one of the most unbiased 360 owners when I only used to frequent the PS3 board, but now that I started to come here to SW, my perception has changed big time

Nice ownage, man :lol:

Avatar image for Floppy_Jim
Floppy_Jim

25933

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

#403 Floppy_Jim
Member since 2007 • 25933 Posts
[QUOTE="stvee101"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

And talking about Bioshock:

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Love the game,but hate the engine it runs on.

GreenGoblin2099

Funny how opinions change when your own BS and Bias get in the way,isn't it.

Lmao!!! I always thought BioShockOwnz was one of the most unbiased 360 owners when I only used to frequent the PS3 board, but now that I started to come here to SW, my perception has changed big time

Nice ownage, man :lol:

I second that, that's the best ownage I've seen since PS_John :lol:

As for the graphics topic, I think Mirror's Edge gets ignored. I thought it looked fantastic just from the demo and easily rivals Gears 2.

Avatar image for BioShockOwnz
BioShockOwnz

52901

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#404 BioShockOwnz
Member since 2006 • 52901 Posts
Yeah, I must admit, I used to hate the UE3, but I've done a complete 180, and saw the light. It's the greatest engine in history. Nice ownage, though. I wear a badge with your name on it.
Avatar image for BioShockOwnz
BioShockOwnz

52901

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#405 BioShockOwnz
Member since 2006 • 52901 Posts

I'll agree with you that when it is used efficiently, it can look great, and Gears 2 is no exception. It is indeed a good looking game. Still though, Gears drips with that core UE wet, plastic, shiny look that is just getting a bit old for me, personally. Mainly due to capabilities of such engines as I mentioned previously in my last reply. What is appealing is all in the eye of the beholder though, I suppose.ironcreed

I'm guessing that's natural, though. The armor in Gears 2 is metal, so it's gonna have a shine to it. And things are gonna look wet in a lot of areas that involve rain or water. Actually, that level inside the worm has some very nice detail. The whole level is wet and bloody, and they took the extra step to make Marcus have a wet bandana. It goes along with the situation they're in, usually, so I don't get the shiny/wet complaint. Now, PDZ was a game that had wet textures in odd places.

Avatar image for mitu123
mitu123

155290

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 32

User Lists: 0

#406 mitu123
Member since 2006 • 155290 Posts

[QUOTE="ironcreed"]I'll agree with you that when it is used efficiently, it can look great, and Gears 2 is no exception. It is indeed a good looking game. Still though, Gears drips with that core UE wet, plastic, shiny look that is just getting a bit old for me, personally. Mainly due to capabilities of such engines as I mentioned previously in my last reply. What is appealing is all in the eye of the beholder though, I suppose.BioShockOwnz

I'm guessing that's natural, though. The armor in Gears 2 is metal, so it's gonna have a shine to it. And things are gonna look wet in a lot of areas that involve rain or water. Actually, that level inside the worm has some very nice detail. The whole level is wet and bloody, and they took the extra step to make Marcus have a wet bandana. It goes along with the situation they're in, usually, so I don't get the shiny/wet complaint. Now, PDZ was a game that had wet textures in odd places.

It did, I don't remember that, maybe I should replay that game again, I still have it.
Avatar image for deactivated-5b1e62582e305
deactivated-5b1e62582e305

30778

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#407 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
Member since 2004 • 30778 Posts
[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"][QUOTE="stvee101"] Funny how opinions change when your own BS and Bias get in the way,isn't it.

Floppy_Jim

Lmao!!! I always thought BioShockOwnz was one of the most unbiased 360 owners when I only used to frequent the PS3 board, but now that I started to come here to SW, my perception has changed big time

Nice ownage, man :lol:

I second that, that's the best ownage I've seen since PS_John :lol:

As for the graphics topic, I think Mirror's Edge gets ignored. I thought it looked fantastic just from the demo and easily rivals Gears 2.

I'm not the dude who will defend BioShockOwnz but look how long ago that was...:|
Avatar image for W1NGMAN-
W1NGMAN-

10109

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#408 W1NGMAN-
Member since 2008 • 10109 Posts
[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Lol you're so full of BS its hillarious. :lol:

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

The UE3 is garbagio.

stvee101

And talking about Bioshock:

Love the game,but hate the engine it runs on.

BioShockOwnz

Funny how opinions change when your own BS and Bias get in the way,isn't it.

ouch that's some major ownage:lol:

Avatar image for ZimpanX
ZimpanX

12636

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 21

User Lists: 0

#409 ZimpanX
Member since 2005 • 12636 Posts
LMFAO! OFF SCREEN SHOTS, to hide flaws and darken the image making it to look better than it is....PRICELESS.Eyezonmii


And yet that second pic you're using is off screen, or did I simply miss that Sony Viera logo at the top left of the screen while playing it?
Avatar image for Floppy_Jim
Floppy_Jim

25933

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

#410 Floppy_Jim
Member since 2007 • 25933 Posts
[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Lmao!!! I always thought BioShockOwnz was one of the most unbiased 360 owners when I only used to frequent the PS3 board, but now that I started to come here to SW, my perception has changed big time

Nice ownage, man :lol:

Aljosa23

I second that, that's the best ownage I've seen since PS_John :lol:

As for the graphics topic, I think Mirror's Edge gets ignored. I thought it looked fantastic just from the demo and easily rivals Gears 2.

I'm not the dude who will defend BioShockOwnz but look how long ago that was...:|

Dunno, 6/7 months ago? Ah, PS_John was awesome.

Avatar image for BioShockOwnz
BioShockOwnz

52901

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#411 BioShockOwnz
Member since 2006 • 52901 Posts

I'm not the dude who will defend BioShockOwnz but look how long ago that was...:|Aljosa23

I won't lie. I've had a long on and off battle with the engine, but I've realized that it's a great engine when used properly. There are a ton of games that look and run really bad on it, but that's the developers fault, I'm thinking. I used to think it was the engines fault, but I've been seeing a lot of games that use it just fine. Mirror's Edge is a game that's not from Epic, and it really shows what the engine is capable of. Not everything has to be grey and brown, or run like a crippled dog.

Avatar image for BioShockOwnz
BioShockOwnz

52901

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#412 BioShockOwnz
Member since 2006 • 52901 Posts

It did, I don't remember that, maybe I should replay that game again, I still have it.mitu123

Yup. PDZ has walls that were insanely wet and shiny looking, kinda like they've been caked with vaseline. And they weren't around any water, so it didn't look right.

Avatar image for deactivated-5b1e62582e305
deactivated-5b1e62582e305

30778

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#413 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
Member since 2004 • 30778 Posts
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"][QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"] I second that, that's the best ownage I've seen since PS_John :lol:

As for the graphics topic, I think Mirror's Edge gets ignored. I thought it looked fantastic just from the demo and easily rivals Gears 2.

Floppy_Jim

I'm not the dude who will defend BioShockOwnz but look how long ago that was...:|

Dunno, 6/7 months ago? Ah, PS_John was awesome.

PS_John is a legend. It would be awesome if Twin_Blade105, PS_John, and Saolin all came back.

The internetz would explod of awesomeness.

Avatar image for BioShockOwnz
BioShockOwnz

52901

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#414 BioShockOwnz
Member since 2006 • 52901 Posts
PS_John is a legend. It would be awesome if Twin_Blade105, PS_John, and Saolin all came back.

The internetz would explod of awesomeness.

Aljosa23

I miss Saolin. :( Those were the guys that made System Wars a lot of fun.

Avatar image for mitu123
mitu123

155290

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 32

User Lists: 0

#415 mitu123
Member since 2006 • 155290 Posts

[QUOTE="mitu123"]It did, I don't remember that, maybe I should replay that game again, I still have it.BioShockOwnz

Yup. PDZ has walls that were insanely wet and shiny looking, kinda like they've been caked with vaseline. And they weren't around any water, so it didn't look right.

Oh yeah, it was too shiny, now I remember, it's been a while since I played it, and yet it got a 9 for graphics from Gamespot.
Avatar image for Floppy_Jim
Floppy_Jim

25933

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

#416 Floppy_Jim
Member since 2007 • 25933 Posts
[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]I'm not the dude who will defend BioShockOwnz but look how long ago that was...:|Aljosa23

Dunno, 6/7 months ago? Ah, PS_John was awesome.

PS_John is a legend. It would be awesome if Twin_Blade105, PS_John, and Saolin all came back.

The internetz would explod of awesomeness.

PS_John still makes rare appearances now and then. And Saolin is back with a new account, it shouldn't be too hard to spot him :P

Avatar image for deactivated-5b1e62582e305
deactivated-5b1e62582e305

30778

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#417 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
Member since 2004 • 30778 Posts
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]PS_John is a legend. It would be awesome if Twin_Blade105, PS_John, and Saolin all came back.

The internetz would explod of awesomeness.

BioShockOwnz

I miss Saolin. :( Those were the guys that made System Wars a lot of fun.

Same! :lol:

Were you around when Twin_Blade105 was still here? He was the dude who said Hitler and Einstein weren't in the same time period. :lol:

Avatar image for ninjaxmas
ninjaxmas

244

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#418 ninjaxmas
Member since 2008 • 244 Posts

[QUOTE="stvee101"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

And talking about Bioshock:

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Love the game,but hate the engine it runs on.

GreenGoblin2099

Funny how opinions change when your own BS and Bias get in the way,isn't it.

Lmao!!! I always thought BioShockOwnz was one of the most unbiased 360 owners when I only used to frequent the PS3 board, but now that I started to come here to SW, my perception has changed big time

Nice ownage, man :lol:

yeah, not sure what it is, but the guy seems to have a grudge against the ps3. he always claims to be unbiased however...
Avatar image for ninjaxmas
ninjaxmas

244

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#419 ninjaxmas
Member since 2008 • 244 Posts
[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]PS_John is a legend. It would be awesome if Twin_Blade105, PS_John, and Saolin all came back.

The internetz would explod of awesomeness.

I miss Saolin. :( Those were the guys that made System Wars a lot of fun.

what made SW fun is when we used not to get mod'd for every little thing. i remember the days of tchbo, tlhbo, so on and so forth. been here since 2003 and this place has changed alot. not for the better either...
Avatar image for jack_michael
jack_michael

1162

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#420 jack_michael
Member since 2007 • 1162 Posts
Yeah, I must admit, I used to hate the UE3, but I've done a complete 180, and saw the light. It's the greatest engine in history. Nice ownage, though. I wear a badge with your name on it.BioShockOwnz
and just like that bioshock greaseballs his way out of another corner. give it up dude you've lost your battle. im a 360 owner (just been playing gears2) and even i agree uncharted looks better :|
Avatar image for BioShockOwnz
BioShockOwnz

52901

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#421 BioShockOwnz
Member since 2006 • 52901 Posts

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Yeah, I must admit, I used to hate the UE3, but I've done a complete 180, and saw the light. It's the greatest engine in history. Nice ownage, though. I wear a badge with your name on it.jack_michael
and just like that bioshock greaseballs his way out of another corner. give it up dude you've lost your battle. im a 360 owner (just been playing gears2) and even i agree uncharted looks better :|

You're allowed to have an opinion, but I don't have to agree with it. :) Glad you like Uncharted so much. It's a great looking game.

Avatar image for f50p90
f50p90

3767

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 9

User Lists: 0

#422 f50p90
Member since 2008 • 3767 Posts
MGS4 looks better than GeOW2 but it's a nice second place right now
Avatar image for SolidTy
SolidTy

49991

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#423 SolidTy
Member since 2005 • 49991 Posts
[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"][QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Lmao!!! I always thought BioShockOwnz was one of the most unbiased 360 owners when I only used to frequent the PS3 board, but now that I started to come here to SW, my perception has changed big time

Nice ownage, man :lol:

Aljosa23

I second that, that's the best ownage I've seen since PS_John :lol:

As for the graphics topic, I think Mirror's Edge gets ignored. I thought it looked fantastic just from the demo and easily rivals Gears 2.

I'm not the dude who will defend BioShockOwnz but look how long ago that was...:|

It hasn't even been a full year, it wasn't that long ago at all. Thanks for making me go back and recheck the date, I thought it was a few year old or something. Nope, it was 2008, clear as day.

Avatar image for eNT1TY
eNT1TY

1319

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#424 eNT1TY
Member since 2005 • 1319 Posts
Lol, is this a last hoorah for Gears 2 thread? Why even bother when it will be totally and unquestionably beaten by a large margin in a few weeks. Did it not get enough time in the spot-light. The game does look good but it is not technichal graphics king. Gears one has sharper textures in many places and superior draw distance (not by much). Not to be confused with depth of field, the blurry distant backgrounds is just a method of obscuring the draw distance flaws. If it were depth of field the foreground too would blur as well as the background with the object in focus and immediate surrounding remaining sharp; but after the focus is shifted the background and/or foreground should focus back into sharpness where in gears 2 the background never does and the foreground is always unaffected. The only place where gears 2 shines texture wise over gear 1 is the vast variety of unique textures and overall quality of those textures considering it has like 4 times (at the very least in my opinion) the amount as opposed to the noticably re-used very high quality textures of the 1st. The levels that look good are tiny corridors with many twists again to hide the draw distance when they dont want to use blur. Racing games of the past did similar things (lots of turns and twists to hide pop-up). Where gears 2 excels is in its art direction, very cool architecture and environment choices, gritty western comic like characters. Unreal engine 3 is old hat and hasn't produced a graphics king since Gears 1 and nothing that is said about gears 2 will change that in my opinion. I acknowledge that it looks fantastic and among the better looking games but not because its a technical master piece (though the way epic cuts corners with its engine in a good way is a feat in its self). In relation to uncharted, i think Uncharted is more consistently better looking, also has a wide array of high quality textures, but is also tiny corridors placed in gorgeous environments on can't set a foot in. In conclusion the only thing gears does well is textures, and textures are easy to make look good.
Avatar image for carljohnson3456
carljohnson3456

12489

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 19

User Lists: 0

#425 carljohnson3456
Member since 2007 • 12489 Posts
Uncharted FTW!!! I'm surprised this thread has kept going. Mostly by a handful of people, but impressive none the less. This is what System Wars is made of!!! lol.
Avatar image for st1ka
st1ka

8179

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#426 st1ka
Member since 2008 • 8179 Posts
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]Uncharted FTW!!! I'm surprised this thread has kept going. Mostly by a handful of people, but impressive none the less. This is what System Wars is made of!!! lol.

did you see my marriage proposal?
Avatar image for killerfist
killerfist

20155

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#427 killerfist
Member since 2005 • 20155 Posts
[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]Uncharted FTW!!! I'm surprised this thread has kept going. Mostly by a handful of people, but impressive none the less. This is what System Wars is made of!!! lol.

did you see my marriage proposal?

Orly? congrats
Avatar image for eNT1TY
eNT1TY

1319

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#428 eNT1TY
Member since 2005 • 1319 Posts
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]Uncharted FTW!!! I'm surprised this thread has kept going. Mostly by a handful of people, but impressive none the less. This is what System Wars is made of!!! lol.

I just noticed it today.
Avatar image for st1ka
st1ka

8179

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#429 st1ka
Member since 2008 • 8179 Posts

[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]Uncharted FTW!!! I'm surprised this thread has kept going. Mostly by a handful of people, but impressive none the less. This is what System Wars is made of!!! lol.killerfist
did you see my marriage proposal?

Orly? congrats

here :P

Avatar image for deactivated-5b1e62582e305
deactivated-5b1e62582e305

30778

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#430 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
Member since 2004 • 30778 Posts

[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="st1ka"] did you see my marriage proposal?st1ka

Orly? congrats

here :P

You gotta show everyone? :lol:
Avatar image for st1ka
st1ka

8179

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#431 st1ka
Member since 2008 • 8179 Posts
[QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="killerfist"] Orly? congratsAljosa23

here :P

You gotta show everyone? :lol:

well it was a pretty epic/awkward moment
Avatar image for killerfist
killerfist

20155

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#432 killerfist
Member since 2005 • 20155 Posts

[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="st1ka"] did you see my marriage proposal?st1ka

Orly? congrats

here :P

I like Kameo too.. marry me.
Avatar image for carljohnson3456
carljohnson3456

12489

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 19

User Lists: 0

#433 carljohnson3456
Member since 2007 • 12489 Posts
[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]Uncharted FTW!!! I'm surprised this thread has kept going. Mostly by a handful of people, but impressive none the less. This is what System Wars is made of!!! lol.

did you see my marriage proposal?

lol No I didnt, but I see now. Kameo... psh! You coulda done so much better!!! lol Just kidding.
Avatar image for carljohnson3456
carljohnson3456

12489

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 19

User Lists: 0

#434 carljohnson3456
Member since 2007 • 12489 Posts
[QUOTE="st1ka"]

[QUOTE="killerfist"] Orly? congratskillerfist

here :P

I like Kameo too.. marry me.

Meanwhile I'm getting a restraining order. ;) :lol:
Avatar image for killerfist
killerfist

20155

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#435 killerfist
Member since 2005 • 20155 Posts
[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] Meanwhile I'm getting a restraining order. ;) :lol:

Why? I did nothing wrong! (I thought I successfully killed the thread btw:lol)
Avatar image for carljohnson3456
carljohnson3456

12489

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 19

User Lists: 0

#436 carljohnson3456
Member since 2007 • 12489 Posts
[QUOTE="killerfist"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] Meanwhile I'm getting a restraining order. ;) :lol:

Why? I did nothing wrong! (I thought I successfully killed the thread btw:lol)

From Kameo, not you Killerfist!!! Come as close as you want!!! *pats empty seat beside me*
Avatar image for Wasdie
Wasdie

53622

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 23

User Lists: 0

#437 Wasdie  Moderator
Member since 2003 • 53622 Posts
I wouldn't disagree.
Avatar image for Afro_Samurai1
Afro_Samurai1

522

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 9

User Lists: 0

#438 Afro_Samurai1
Member since 2008 • 522 Posts
This is getting out of hand it is obvious the tc is wrong and that this thread is going off topic.
Avatar image for killerfist
killerfist

20155

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#439 killerfist
Member since 2005 • 20155 Posts
Come as close as you want!!! *pats empty seat beside me*carljohnson3456
Ditch Ellen first... [spoiler] :evil: :lol: [/spoiler]
Avatar image for carljohnson3456
carljohnson3456

12489

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 19

User Lists: 0

#441 carljohnson3456
Member since 2007 • 12489 Posts

you people who make these threads all day really have no livesAndrovinus
And yet you still find a reason to sign up, sign in, and comment... odd.

Oh, and just for the record, your sig says "pround" instead of "proud". Good day.

Avatar image for killa4lyfe
killa4lyfe

3849

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#442 killa4lyfe
Member since 2008 • 3849 Posts

Beauty follows...

bra mce_thref=

bra mce_thref=

bra mce_thref=

bra mce_thref=

bra mce_thref=

bra mce_thref=

bra mce_thref=

bra mce_thref=

Truly the best looking game on consoles this generation thus far.

BioShockOwnz
Abit too many of these topics are postin up nowadayss dont u get that each game has different things that it is bettr at like MGS4 for example has the best detail on face and cinematics for sure but not enviroment,....like seriously STHU and play the game and enjoy it.
Avatar image for mitu123
mitu123

155290

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 32

User Lists: 0

#443 mitu123
Member since 2006 • 155290 Posts
you people who make these threads all day really have no livesAndrovinus
Your post has nothing to do with this topic, System Wars or anything for that matter, your post fails.