Theres still yet a FPS on console that come close to Half Life 2 on PC.

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#51 Spartan070
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Halo is a simple shooter because it is dumbed down to the lowest common denominator, IE the casual market.

Lilac_Benjie

How come every game that caters to all audiences and is inviting to all types of players is always categorized as casual? Can a game not appeal to casual fans as well as hardcore fans and everyone in between?

Since when does mass appeal = casual appeal?:?

I thought casual appeal = casual appeal?:?

People, just because a FPS novice can get a grasp of the controls does not in any way mean that he can be as good as a pro Halo player. There is a MASSIVE difference in skill level for Halo 2 online between players ranked 20 and under and people ranked 30 and up.

Easy to grasp controls =/= easy to become L33T.:|

I swear some of you must have been brainwashed to consistently have such dumbfounded ideas...

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#52 Spartan070
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[QUOTE="Echo13791"][QUOTE="Miyomatic"]Thats probably because Metroid Prime 3 and COD4 arent out yet.....norfair_dweller


haha, i understand COD4 but MP3. Btw, any game on the Wii will never compare, lol

If you told me you've ever played a Metroid Prime game, I would severely doubt it.

Same here.

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#53 skrat_01
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I stand by HL2 being the best FPS currently, and im sure many people, and critics would.

At the end of this year, I have a hunch that times are changing though. I mean it has been 3 years.

edit* MP feels like an adventure game in FP perspective.

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#54 OoSuperMarioO
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[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"][QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"][QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"][QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"][QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"][QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"]I thought that The Darkness was better than Half-Life 2.Sir-Marwin105
Wow man thats really shocking.Im speechless..Cant believe I heard that.

The Darkness had more personality and had a better script imo.

Are you sure you talking about Half Life 2 for the pc not the xbox port?

I am talking about the PC version. Nothing in Half-Life 2 came close to the emotional level in The Darkness when you sit with Jenny and and watch To Kill a Mocking Bird.

The intro to Half life 2 alone has a stronger presentation then The Darkness has to offer as a whole game.The feel of Half Life 2 is incredible and certaintly shows what a game is all about, its a masterpiece of art.The Darkness was good but it get so repetitive in about 10 mins clock of gameplay it also lack story however I did like the characters and they feel but it felt that the game coulded had some more time to make it solid.The controls in The Darkness was flat out terrible and gave me them old moments of Max Payne.Lets face Half Life 2 equals a work of art.The Darkness is good but it certainly is no Half Life...

The controls were not terrible, not at all. And the characters in The Darkness were more appealing than in Half-Life. While Gordan is a legendary character and deserves that status, I liked Jackie more. It seemed he had a purpose. They way he talked and felt made him stand out more to me. And this by no means means I want Gordan to talk. I also felt that the driving mechanics in Half-Life felt tacked on, although I would definetly not want to walk that long of a distance. But all in all, they are both terrific titles. Lets just agree to disagree. What do you say?

Thats fair I say but Half life 2 still has a better art style along with graphics heh.. even though Im a big fan of the The Darkness comic due to Im an artist myself.Also The Darkness controls were terrible bud and felt clumsy and lackluster.
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#55 OoSuperMarioO
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Why do people insist on making these comparisons?

Yes HalfLife is a great series, but you know what? So is Halo and so is Metroid Prime. Just because you like one over the others doesn't mean other people will share your opinion. I mean, I have played pretty much every single player iteration of Half-Life and Half-Life 2 possible, and I still personally like the Halo series more.

It seems like every time people mention a console FPS being great there will always be some computer fanboy that shouts "Bu Teh HalfLifes." Well guess what, there are console FPS's out there that are comparable in quality to the HalfLife series, whether you like it or not.

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I love Halo dont get me wrong and I put more then 1000+hrs in both Halo 1 and 2 but its honesty and theres no console fps on the market today that comes close to Half Life 2.The only game that will rival it is Half Life 2 itself on next-gen consoles.
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#56 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="KodiakGTS"]

Why do people insist on making these comparisons?

Yes HalfLife is a great series, but you know what? So is Halo and so is Metroid Prime. Just because you like one over the others doesn't mean other people will share your opinion. I mean, I have played pretty much every single player iteration of Half-Life and Half-Life 2 possible, and I still personally like the Halo series more.

It seems like every time people mention a console FPS being great there will always be some computer fanboy that shouts "Bu Teh HalfLifes." Well guess what, there are console FPS's out there that are comparable in quality to the HalfLife series, whether you like it or not.

OoSuperMarioO

I love Halo dont get me wrong and I put more then 1000+hrs in both Halo 1 and 2 but its honesty and theres no console fps on the market today that comes close to Half Life 2.The only game that will rival it is Half Life 2 itself on next-gen consoles.

Ya agreed!

And BTW even though im yet to play The Darkness im loving the comics art design. Hell ive even got it as my current wallpaper. And im a budding artist / designer. But still Giger's DARK SEED ftw! Some of the best art design EVER. And Shadow of the Colossus.

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#58 catlin_czirr
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Uhhh HL2 is also on a console (xbox) so this topic fails, and also mabey you didn't hear but the Orange Box is coming out for xbox 360 and PS3 (both consoles) as well as PC.
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#59 OoSuperMarioO
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Uhhh HL2 is also on a console (xbox) so this topic fails, and also mabey you didn't hear but the Orange Box is coming out for xbox 360 and PS3 (both consoles) as well as PC.catlin_czirr
Half Life 2 for the xbox had bad performance along with a 640x480 resolution and no hdr lighting.
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#60 skrat_01
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Uhhh HL2 is also on a console (xbox) so this topic fails, and also mabey you didn't hear but the Orange Box is coming out for xbox 360 and PS3 (both consoles) as well as PC.catlin_czirr
HL2 on Xbox bit the big ones.

And all other versions are lacking the phenominal mod community.

The huge amount of awesome HL2 mods, that could be sold - or have been sold, as retail games is amazing.

Not to mention the ever so awesome steam platform. FTW!

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#61 123Dan123
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I do agree that Half-Life is one of the best, if not the best FPS's of all time. But I don't agree that there isn't a console FPS that comes close and that Halo is a toy. But I guess thats just your guys's oppinion...
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Even if its releasing for the consoles the performance wont come close to a high end pc.OoSuperMarioO

id disagree, the xbox 1 port of half life 2 looks absolutely fantastic considering the hardware its running on, yeah the geometric detail is slightly lower on some objects, but im going to be very shocked if the 360 and the ps3 dont make absolute mincemeat of the half life 2 engine at 1080p60fps.

i would go as far as saying the ps3 and 360 ports of half life 2 will probably look like lost coast at 1080p, full HDR and everything, and i expect the particle effects of episode 2 to be now upgraded into half life 2 and half life 2 episode 1.

i think in all honnestly there will be no difference between the pc/ps3/360 versions of half life 2, im going to go out on a limb and say that if you buy the off the shelf version of hl2 for the ps3/360 it will be better looking than an off the shelf version of hl2 for the pc.

however i think once episode 2 is released valve will release a patch for hl2 with upgraded lighting and particle effects to come into line with episode 2.

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#63 trix5817
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The thing that makes HL2 so great is the presentation. The way the tell the story is just awesome. The whole game is a roller coaster ride that never bores you. It's extremely immersive and it feels as if your in a movie rather than playing a game. No FPS has come close to it in that aspect. It's makes for an awesome experiance which is unmatched in a singleplayer FPS IMO. I'm playing through it again, but this time with the FakeFactory Cinematic mod installed. It's awesome and makes the game much better IMO. The music they add is cool too. It makes it feel more "epic".
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[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Even if its releasing for the consoles the performance wont come close to a high end pc.iamsickofspam

id disagree, the xbox 1 port of half life 2 looks absolutely fantastic considering the hardware its running on, yeah the geometric detail is slightly lower on some objects, but im going to be very shocked if the 360 and the ps3 dont make absolute mincemeat of the half life 2 engine at 1080p60fps.

i would go as far as saying the ps3 and 360 ports of half life 2 will probably look like lost coast at 1080p, full HDR and everything, and i expect the particle effects of episode 2 to be now upgraded into half life 2 and half life 2 episode 1.

i think in all honnestly there will be no difference between the pc/ps3/360 versions of half life 2, im going to go out on a limb and say that if you buy the off the shelf version of hl2 for the ps3/360 it will be better looking than an off the shelf version of hl2 for the pc.

however i think once episode 2 is released valve will release a patch for hl2 with upgraded lighting and particle effects to come into line with episode 2.

Of course the PS3 and 360 versions are going to look better. HL2 came out in 2004 and was run at maxxed on much less powerful hardware.

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#65 Fignewton50
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Hell yeah man, I completely agree. I just played through it for the 4th time. I've played every respectable console FPS, and nothing comes close. Maybe people will understand this fall when it comes to the 360 and PS3.
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-.-' This is what blogs are for.
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#67 iamsickofspam
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I would agree with peoples points that HL2 is currently the best FPS Singleplayer experience out there.

As a gamer i absolutely hated the Citadel levels in HL2 and HL2: Episode 1.

The rest of the games locales however were amazing, the urban start, the waterways, the lab, ravenholm, the beach, the prison.

some of the best levels ever in a game.

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Says you........ Blog it.
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#69 dackchaar
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Ummm, Half-Life 2 is on console
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#70 drnick7
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And Half-Life 2 doesn't come close to Half-Life. :D

In my opinion anyway.

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[QUOTE="OoSuperMarioO"]Even if its releasing for the consoles the performance wont come close to a high end pc.iamsickofspam

id disagree, the xbox 1 port of half life 2 looks absolutely fantastic considering the hardware its running on, yeah the geometric detail is slightly lower on some objects, but im going to be very shocked if the 360 and the ps3 dont make absolute mincemeat of the half life 2 engine at 1080p60fps.

i would go as far as saying the ps3 and 360 ports of half life 2 will probably look like lost coast at 1080p, full HDR and everything, and i expect the particle effects of episode 2 to be now upgraded into half life 2 and half life 2 episode 1.

i think in all honnestly there will be no difference between the pc/ps3/360 versions of half life 2, im going to go out on a limb and say that if you buy the off the shelf version of hl2 for the ps3/360 it will be better looking than an off the shelf version of hl2 for the pc.

however i think once episode 2 is released valve will release a patch for hl2 with upgraded lighting and particle effects to come into line with episode 2.

True it will run smooth during single player but to bad there wont be Half Life 2 deathmatch cause Im sure the fps willl dip due to alot action on screen rather then pc version.Also a 1080p resolution isnt a pc limit you can exceed the limits with the currrent hardware on pc todays making it look a whole lot better then console ports.
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#72 youngtongue
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I agree with TC 110% Seriously half life 2is the best if not at least in the top five of best fps ever made. Yes I have played other shooters and enjoyed them but theres something about the half life series that makes them better then the rest.
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#73 ps3rulezzggdff
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Hl2 FTW