these 360 Exclusive guys.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="Ultimaspooges"]

A console FPS IS NEVER the best.

Half Life, Half Life 2, Doom, Wolfenstein 3-D, Unreal Tournament and Quake are better FPS'

Ultimaspooges

Did you play Doom in 1993?

Doom came out before the average Halo gamer was born.

Did you play Doom in 1993?

Doom came out before the average Halo gamer was born.

Ultimaspooges

:D I played it in 1994 on my sega 32x.

[QUOTE="Ultimaspooges"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"] Doom? Wolfenstein? Come on now. I'm more of a PC gamer than anything, but even I'd never make that claim. Doom and Wolfenstein are so archaic and outdated, even by the standards of when Perfect Dark came out. PD is a much better FPS, it shouldn't even be an arguement.Skittles_McGee

Did you play Doom in 1993?

Doom came out before the average Halo gamer was born.

Right, and Dark Cloud 2 > Ocarina of time right?

Half Life and Half Life 2, are still definitely, way better than any console FPS. Goldeneye and Perfect Dark are no exception.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="Ultimaspooges"]

Did you play Doom in 1993?

Doom came out before the average Halo gamer was born.

Ultimaspooges

Right, and Dark Cloud 2 > Ocarina of time right?

Half Life and Half Life 2, are still definitely, way better than any console FPS. Goldeneye and Perfect Dark are no exception.

Yes I did, and FPS has evolved by leaps and bounds since then. It doesn't matter when it came out if games in the genre coming after it were better. I don't live in the past. Games get better as the years go on. Its just a fact of life.Skittles_McGee

I agree that games evolve, but not always essentually for the better. The timeline or era in which a game is released in has a big impact on how you should judge it's greatness. Just because the standards change for each upcomming year that passes dosen't mean the quality of the game made is better than an older game.

Marrowind:Elder Scrolls 3 >>> Oblvion is a good example.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]Yes I did, and FPS has evolved by leaps and bounds since then. It doesn't matter when it came out if games in the genre coming after it were better. I don't live in the past. Games get better as the years go on. Its just a fact of life.playharderfool

I agree that games evolve, but not always essentually for the better. The timeline or era in which a game isreleased in has a big impact on you should judge it's greatness. Just because the standards change for each upcomming year that passes dosen't mean the quality of the game made is better than an older game.

Marrowind:Elder Scrolls 3 >>> Oblvion is a good example.

[QUOTE="playharderfool"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]Yes I did, and FPS has evolved by leaps and bounds since then. It doesn't matter when it came out if games in the genre coming after it were better. I don't live in the past. Games get better as the years go on. Its just a fact of life.Skittles_McGee

I agree that games evolve, but not always essentually for the better. The timeline or era in which a game isreleased in has a big impact on you should judge it's greatness. Just because the standards change for each upcomming year that passes dosen't mean the quality of the game made is better than an older game.

Marrowind:Elder Scrolls 3 >>> Oblvion is a good example.

:? I thought marrowind was a good example...

How about

KOTOR>Mass Effect?

Sonic Adventure DC >>>>>>> any sonic this gen?

King of the Fighters 98 >> King of the Fighters XII?

MGS 3> MGS4?

I didn't think the graphics would improve that much. I'll definitely get it. It's my favourite FPS ever.

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="playharderfool"]

I agree that games evolve, but not always essentually for the better. The timeline or era in which a game isreleased in has a big impact on you should judge it's greatness. Just because the standards change for each upcomming year that passes dosen't mean the quality of the game made is better than an older game.

Marrowind:Elder Scrolls 3 >>> Oblvion is a good example.

playharderfool

:? I thought marrowind was a good example...

How about

KOTOR>Mass Effect?

Well that doesn't work because I could understand people liking Mass Effect more than KOTOR. I just mean in general, games get better as they go. There are always exceptions, as with any rule, but in general thats how it goes.Skittles_McGee

Well I'm only referring to people who've actually played both games (me) and can make realistic comparison between both games. The general concensus among people who've both of these games too is that the older game (KOTOR) is better.

However, I do understand the general idea of what you're saying and I "understand" that with the higher standards and increased power of the consoles the games should "theoretically" be better than older games...I'm just saying that's not always the result.

[QUOTE="playharderfool"]

[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

I havent really talked about it because I know that despite it being an enitrly new remake, with better graphics, and online play cows will just call it a port and claim ownage by some god forsaken reason that i have no clue about.

mitu123

:D you mean like lemmings originally did with NGS when it scored a 9.0 in 2007? Yeah that does suk, but I know exactly whatcha mean.

Whatare you talking about?

Who was talking to you and who asked you to show anything? Nobody cares about you posting pictures. :| I owned EVERY version of NG and what of it?

:lol: a few extra things? Your doing the same thing he was assuming PS3 fanboys would do with Perfect Dark...good going.

So a Custom engine built from the gound up for next gen gfx, realtime cutscenes that were previously ALLCGI, pervious portions of CGI cutscenes turned into all out sections of realtime gameplay,new missions, new weapons, new abilities (duel wheelding katanas), and the ability to play a new character with seperate missions of her own= a few exta things to you...cool beans buddy. :D Nice to find out what an objective poster you are!!!

You must think the updates revealed for Perfect Dark suk huh?

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="playharderfool"]

:D you mean like lemmings originally did with NGS when it scored a 9.0 in 2007? Yeah that does suk, but I know exactly whatcha mean.

playharderfool

WTH are you talking about?

Who was talking to you and who asked you to show anything? Nobody cares about you posting pictures. :| I owned EVERY version of NG and what?

:lol: a few extra things? Your doing the same thing he was assuming PS3 fanboys would do with Perfect Dark...good going.

So a Custom engine built from the gound up for next gen gfx, realtime cutscenes that were previously ALLCGI, pervious portions of CGI cutscenes turned into all out sections of realtime gameplay,new missions, new weapons, new abilities (duel wheelding katanas), and the ability to play a new character with seperate missions of her own= a few exta things to you...cool beans buddy. :D Nice to find out what an objective poster you are!!!

You must think the updates revealed for Perfect Dark suk huh?

The reason I brought that up is to start an argument with you, LOL, it's all on me. I never counted either game as an exclusive anyways, thanks to the same story, genre and gameplay of the games.

[QUOTE="Sully28"]

maybe because its not exclusive, its on n64!

LegatoSkyheart

and I still have my Copy. :) sadly all of our controllers have broken joysticks from countless use of Playing Zelda and Star Fox, Golden Eye and (said game) Perfect Dark....and Banjo Kazooie.......and Donkey Kong 64.........Rouge Squadran.......

Im still waiting for many GREAT games to come to wii ware!!! WTF Ninteindo.... does it take MS to get you moving???

Dam had this game and would still be playing it but alast I can't. still good times. Good times... will not pay MS for it though. if there is a way to down load it and transfer it to another HDD then I have a chance

Definite buy. Hopefully it has online.

That's it, that is only a few things, man. that's only 6 things you listed, the Perfect Dark XBLA has about that many new features as well but that doesn't make it "new" and "entirely different" now does it?

The reason I brought that up is to start an argument with you, LOL, it's all on me. I never counted either game as an exclusive anyways, thanks to the same story, genre and gameplay of the games.

mitu123

Well next time make an appointment, there are alot of other people in front of you who've been making attempts to get in arguemts with me to see if I'll fall, but in the end I just think im making you guys better at finding ways to talk down other posters who make arguemts on my side.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

That's it, that is only a few things, man. that's only 6 things you listed, the Perfect Dark XBLA has about that many new features as well but that doesn't make it "new" and "entirely different" now does it?

The reason I brought that up is to start an argument with you, LOL, it's all on me. I never counted either game as an exclusive anyways, thanks to the same story, genre and gameplay of the games.

playharderfool

Well next time make an appointment, there are alot of other people in front of you who've been making attempts to get in arguemts with me to see if I'll fall, but in the end I just think im making you guys better at finding ways to talk down other posters who make arguemts on my side.