These market moves should make PC more sales competitive with next gen consoles

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#101 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Man, I just love it when your argument starts crumbling and just have absolutly nothing to back up your things with.

ZombieKiller7

I love it when hermits spend 20 hours a day trying to convince people that their platform has a future.

And begging on forums.

Literally begging.

PLEEEEASE use a PC.

PLEEEEASE.

Yeah cause it's obviously better when a consolite spends 20 hours a day doing the opposite or even trying to convince console is the futur.

Again double standards.

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#102 AdrianWerner
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I don't see a future for desktop PC's.

ZombieKiller7

All analysts agree there's a good future for desktop PCs. What's more, laptops are still growing and gaming on them is booming.

meanwhile dvd players are crashing and burning, so are dvd sales. It's dying media. And since according to you people buy consoles primarly to play DVD movies..then well..

No matter how you look at it consoles will die out far sooner than PCs will

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#103 AdrianWerner
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Hey the post was about PC sales being competative.

ZombieKiller7

PCs sell more than consoles and their sales are growing each year. Not only that, they are projected to continue to grow. Even the hardcore pcgaming market of hig end hardware is projected to grow.

Meahwhile console sales are crashing and burning.

PCs doesn't have to change anything to be competitive with consoles, PCs already are crushing consoles in sales and the gap will only continue to widen.

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#104 NoodleFighter
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[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

Because most people don't need a desktop, they won't own one just for games.

Its market appeal is very limited.

Almost nobody will trade convenience for graphics.

p4s2p0

So what convenience do consoles have cause it doesn't seem like they have anything left that PC doesn't have.

I highly doubt people are only going to use their PC just for games.

I agree pc not going anywhere just too many uses for them. But for games I hated setting up my controller since most are set for mouse and keyboard.

Most games these days that can operate well with a controller usually support them? What controller you have?

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#105 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="FashionFreak"]

you talking about the obsidian series?

FashionFreak

Yep, that's the one.

You know anything about the "noise reduction"? Does it muffle GPU fans running at 100%?

That I don't know about.D=

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#106 dj_pulserfan
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Man, I just love it when your argument starts crumbling and just have absolutly nothing to back up your things with.

ZombieKiller7

I love it when hermits spend 20 hours a day trying to convince people that their platform has a future.

And begging on forums.

Literally begging.

PLEEEEASE use a PC.

PLEEEEASE.

Actually consoles are dead. If that weren't true please do explain why nearly every developer including Kojima says consoles "maybe" have one gen left? I left consoles because of this crap. If PC dies then I quit gaming. The only reason to even remotely own a console is for fighting games and even that's changing.

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#109 dontshackzmii
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[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Man, I just love it when your argument starts crumbling and just have absolutly nothing to back up your things with.

dj_pulserfan

I love it when hermits spend 20 hours a day trying to convince people that their platform has a future.

And begging on forums.

Literally begging.

PLEEEEASE use a PC.

PLEEEEASE.

Actually consoles are dead. If that weren't true please do explain why nearly every developer including Kojima says consoles "maybe" have one gen left? I left consoles because of this crap. If PC dies then I quit gaming. The only reason to even remotely own a console is for fighting games and even that's changing.

They are talking about how great ios is most of the time. They are not running to the pc.....

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#110 dj_pulserfan
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[QUOTE="dj_pulserfan"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

I love it when hermits spend 20 hours a day trying to convince people that their platform has a future.

And begging on forums.

Literally begging.

PLEEEEASE use a PC.

PLEEEEASE.

dontshackzmii

Actually consoles are dead. If that weren't true please do explain why nearly every developer including Kojima says consoles "maybe" have one gen left? I left consoles because of this crap. If PC dies then I quit gaming. The only reason to even remotely own a console is for fighting games and even that's changing.

They are talking about how great ios is most of the time. They are not running to the pc.....

Next Metal Gear game is coming to the PC. Not rising, but more than like MGS5 and 360. http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/721014/kojimas-next-metal-gear-coming-to-high-end-consoles-and-pc/
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#111 DarkOfKnight
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="dj_pulserfan"]

Actually consoles are dead. If that weren't true please do explain why nearly every developer including Kojima says consoles "maybe" have one gen left? I left consoles because of this crap. If PC dies then I quit gaming. The only reason to even remotely own a console is for fighting games and even that's changing.

dj_pulserfan

They are talking about how great ios is most of the time. They are not running to the pc.....

Next Metal Gear game is coming to the PC. Not rising, but more than like MGS5 and 360. http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/721014/kojimas-next-metal-gear-coming-to-high-end-consoles-and-pc/

Whooopie!!!! I am shock anybody cares about that crappy series anymore.
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#112 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

So is CoDMW3 1080p high settings on the consoles?

ZombieKiller7

No but at least it's optimized for the platform.

APU will have the worst qualities of both PC and consoles.

Weak graphics like console, crap optimization like PC.

I don't recall the current consoles delivering 1080p CoDMW 3. Your "weak graphics like console" is a LOL material.
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#113 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

I don't see a future for desktop PC's.

AdrianWerner

All analysts agree there's a good future for desktop PCs. What's more, laptops are still growing and gaming on them is booming.

meanwhile dvd players are crashing and burning, so are dvd sales. It's dying media. And since according to you people buy consoles primarly to play DVD movies..then well..

No matter how you look at it consoles will die out far sooner than PCs will

Consoles will more than likely just evolve not die.

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#114 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

apus wont change anything its a cheap atholon 2 with a krappy gpu slaped on it.

dontshackzmii

COD Modern Warfare 3 @ 1080p high settings on AMD A8-3850 APU Sony PS3 and Xbox 360 is not capable in delivering the same gaming performance.

AMD A8-3850 Llano APU was recently replaced by a faster AMD A10 Trinity APU.

fail it can run a game on a low end engine. not impressed at all sir try harder.

I'm not impress with barely-720p consoles.
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#115 hillyboy1234
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Why would you want XBL on your PC. If you want it you would get an xbox. Plus it would mean less exclusives for Xbox because PC can have them too.
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#116 hillyboy1234
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="ionusX"] with 575 bucks you can curbstomp next gen consoles. @ 800 your doing 1080p high settings gameplay on most games

NoodleFighter

always hate how hermits usually lie. Its still rare to find a pc for less than 800 or even a 1000 that is going to be able to play all the latest games today are their highest settings and maintain that for more than a year before your lowering settings just to keep up. P.S: Maybe f2p games.

The latest games can very whether high settings or not. cause derp not every game is at the same technical level.

The consoles don't even play games at high settings and low settings in some games is already beating it.

You dont find many PC's that are cheap and can play games on high becuase PC gamers build their own systems or get someone else to build it for them which is cheaper than buying it pre built.
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#117 DarkOfKnight
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Why would you want XBL on your PC. If you want it you would get an xbox. Plus it would mean less exclusives for Xbox because PC can have them too.hillyboy1234
XBL on PC doesn't equal next gen Xbox games being on PC. XBL is an online service, not a gaming format. If anything it will be an online service along side MS's gaming service on PC.
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#118 DarkOfKnight
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

I don't see a future for desktop PC's.

razgriz_101

All analysts agree there's a good future for desktop PCs. What's more, laptops are still growing and gaming on them is booming.

meanwhile dvd players are crashing and burning, so are dvd sales. It's dying media. And since according to you people buy consoles primarly to play DVD movies..then well..

No matter how you look at it consoles will die out far sooner than PCs will

Consoles will more than likely just evolve not die.

Like they have been forever.
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#119 hillyboy1234
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

I don't see a future for desktop PC's.

razgriz_101

All analysts agree there's a good future for desktop PCs. What's more, laptops are still growing and gaming on them is booming.

meanwhile dvd players are crashing and burning, so are dvd sales. It's dying media. And since according to you people buy consoles primarly to play DVD movies..then well..

No matter how you look at it consoles will die out far sooner than PCs will

Consoles will more than likely just evolve not die.

That is the point consoles only evolve when they release the next gen PC's are always evolving because there's always new hardware or software coming out.
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#120 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]All analysts agree there's a good future for desktop PCs. What's more, laptops are still growing and gaming on them is booming.

meanwhile dvd players are crashing and burning, so are dvd sales. It's dying media. And since according to you people buy consoles primarly to play DVD movies..then well..

No matter how you look at it consoles will die out far sooner than PCs will

DarkOfKnight

Consoles will more than likely just evolve not die.

Like they have been forever.

Exactly the biggest gap in terms of features has probaably been this gen, theres a lot more things like on demand television and the likes.All i see is consoles becoming more an entertainment hub than just a device purely for playing games, basically something to sit beside the tv like the set top box (sony's already moved into that area with play tv).

Its just the way it is, a console will be more a multimedia device rather than one for purely gaming.Which suits me tbh as long as im still getting decent games.Since i got netflix i cancelled my Sky Movies subscription because it was a better service and it was cheaper.

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#121 DarkOfKnight
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]All analysts agree there's a good future for desktop PCs. What's more, laptops are still growing and gaming on them is booming.

meanwhile dvd players are crashing and burning, so are dvd sales. It's dying media. And since according to you people buy consoles primarly to play DVD movies..then well..

No matter how you look at it consoles will die out far sooner than PCs will

hillyboy1234

Consoles will more than likely just evolve not die.

That is the point consoles only evolve when they release the next gen PC's are always evolving because there's always new hardware or software coming out.

How much of that power is really used or even needed for games? PC's do a lot of things. That and it is not impossible to make consoles upgradable.
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#122 ronvalencia
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Why would you want XBL on your PC. If you want it you would get an xbox. Plus it would mean less exclusives for Xbox because PC can have them too.hillyboy1234
MS already ported XBL to Windows 8. PC covers mobility devices such as tablets, ultrabooks and laptops.

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#123 DarkOfKnight
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[QUOTE="hillyboy1234"]Why would you want XBL on your PC. If you want it you would get an xbox. Plus it would mean less exclusives for Xbox because PC can have them too.ronvalencia
MS already ported XBL to Windows 8.

I can access my XBL on Xp and 7. Is there something different?
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#124 AdrianWerner
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Consoles will more than likely just evolve not die.

razgriz_101

Maybe. But one thing is sure: PC will outlive them.

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#125 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

Consoles will more than likely just evolve not die.

AdrianWerner

Maybe. But one thing is sure: PC will outlive them.

they are just essentially going to evolve into other products and morph much like the mobile phone has morphed into a device which does much mroe than a simple phone call, or the humble iPod has evolved over iterations.The consoles will morph and adapt.

PC will just do its own thing, but for one thing console gaming wont die, to say it is, is honestly a tad short sighted and biased.

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#126 AdrianWerner
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they are just essentially going to evolve into other products and morph much like the mobile phone has morphed into a device which does much mroe than a simple phone call, or the humble iPod has evolved over iterations.The consoles will morph and adapt.

PC will just do its own thing, but for one thing console gaming wont die, to say it is, is honestly a tad short sighted and biased.

razgriz_101

I think otherwise. Saying consoles won't die is very short sighted. In near future they might survive, but I don't see how anyone can expect them to survive for decades to come. They will die out eventually. What has potential to survive is console-style of gaming (couches, pads etc), it just won't be supplied by consoles themselvs.

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#127 razgriz_101
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

they are just essentially going to evolve into other products and morph much like the mobile phone has morphed into a device which does much mroe than a simple phone call, or the humble iPod has evolved over iterations.The consoles will morph and adapt.

PC will just do its own thing, but for one thing console gaming wont die, to say it is, is honestly a tad short sighted and biased.

AdrianWerner

I think otherwise. Saying consoles won't die is very short sighted. In near future they might survive, but I don't see how anyone can expect them to survive for decades to come. They will die out eventually. What has potential to survive is console-style of gaming (couches, pads etc), it just won't be supplied by consoles themselvs.

As i will reiterate they will evolve and morph.

Guess you didnt read that part, fantastic how you have selective reading.Consoles WILL eventually morph into a cable like set top box and its already apparent, and its fantastic how oblivious you are to this.

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#128 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

I don't see a future for desktop PC's.

razgriz_101

All analysts agree there's a good future for desktop PCs. What's more, laptops are still growing and gaming on them is booming.

meanwhile dvd players are crashing and burning, so are dvd sales. It's dying media. And since according to you people buy consoles primarly to play DVD movies..then well..

No matter how you look at it consoles will die out far sooner than PCs will

Consoles will more than likely just evolve not die.

Then I don't see how PC will die...

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#129 ZombieKiller7
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PC = dead platform

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#130 Arach666
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[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]All analysts agree there's a good future for desktop PCs. What's more, laptops are still growing and gaming on them is booming.

meanwhile dvd players are crashing and burning, so are dvd sales. It's dying media. And since according to you people buy consoles primarly to play DVD movies..then well..

No matter how you look at it consoles will die out far sooner than PCs will

Bebi_vegeta

Consoles will more than likely just evolve not die.

Then I don't see how PC will die...

Well that´simply because it never will.
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#131 Bebi_vegeta
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PC = dead platform

ZombieKiller7

Evidence?

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#132 ZombieKiller7
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[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

PC = dead platform

Bebi_vegeta

Evidence?

All the fanboys begging all the time

Pleeeeease

Use a PC

Pleeeease

A good product sells itself, you don't have to beg.

---

Seriously tho, I just say that to get you guys riled up.

PC users are supposed to be a more elite crowd.

Acting like little console kiddies in here.

You wreak of anxiety and desperation.

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#133 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

PC = dead platform

ZombieKiller7

Evidence?

All the fanboys begging all the time

Pleeeeease

Use a PC

Pleeeease

A good product sells itself, you don't have to beg.

---

Seriously tho, I just say that to get you guys riled up.

PC users are supposed to be a more elite crowd.

Acting like little console kiddies in here.

You wreak of anxiety and desperation.

So your here because you want to make PC gamers angry and you say they wreak of anxiety and desperation... Wow, I see the logic now!

But again, you still can't provide evidence that PC is dead or going to die, but I guess you rather be a troll... have fun.

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#134 ZombieKiller7
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If you get angry from me then you need to grow a brain.

360 vs PS3 fanboy BS (for entertainment) is the sum total of why I'm here.

PC isn't dead, it's just irrelevant.

Carry on.

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#136 xboxownzuall545
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Look at this whole generation it's been trash why? BECAUSE OF CASUALS DEATH TO CASUALS!
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#137 bblundell
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If you get angry from me then you need to grow a brain.

360 vs PS3 fanboy BS (for entertainment) is the sum total of why I'm here.

PC isn't dead, it's just irrelevant.

Carry on.

ZombieKiller7
How do you know he was angry? Are you watching him outside his window or something? Sounds to me like he was asking you a question about your statement/opinion.
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#138 xboxownzuall545
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They honestly dont make real video games anymore they're too **** babyish now. all the games gotta hold ur hand and guide your path like a baby and aim your crosshair for you.
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#139 xboxownzuall545
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Last generation you had console shooters that shipped without aim assist or gave you the option as the host of your own game to force everyones aim assist off and it cant be enabled by anyone. In todays shooters like call of duty you can disable your aim assist but everyone else is still using aim assist how's that balanced? plus the game doesnt even truly turn it off. LOL MODERN SHOOTERS=GIANT FOOKING N00BFEST
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#140 Bebi_vegeta
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If you get angry from me then you need to grow a brain.

360 vs PS3 fanboy BS (for entertainment) is the sum total of why I'm here.

PC isn't dead, it's just irrelevant.

Carry on.

ZombieKiller7

Well i'm not even angry, because I know your main goal here to be a troll... you come here and make poor arguments for flame bait. And for some reason this seems to amuse you.

Again, how is PC irrelevant?

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#141 xboxownzuall545
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Where's the shooters around today like blood,redneck rampage,shadow warrior Oh yea there are none it's just a bunch of halo or call of duty little fooking baby games.
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#142 kraken2109
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="ZombieKiller7"]

PC = dead platform

ZombieKiller7

Evidence?

All the fanboys begging all the time

Pleeeeease

Use a PC

Pleeeease

A good product sells itself, you don't have to beg.

---

Seriously tho, I just say that to get you guys riled up.

PC users are supposed to be a more elite crowd.

Acting like little console kiddies in here.

You wreak of anxiety and desperation.

PCs sell more than consoles, guess it's a better product then...