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#51 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Epak_"]

He looks like someone from the Fable series.

Heil68

Hmm, perhaps..

fable.jpg

But they'd be crazy to try and match Fable's..... Foliage. :twisted:

How about make Kinect(lol) required for the MS version! lolz

:shock: Shhhh, it's Kinect 2 making the Next X version teh Definitive version since you truly feel like you are the Thief but how'd you get wind of that?

It's been an ancient Chinese secret 4ever.

Ob.... :P

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#53 ultraking
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] How about make Kinect(lol) required for the MS version! lolz blue_hazy_basic

It says better with Kinect right there on the cover. FACT :P

Mass-Effect-3-Xbox-360-Box-Art_0-650x650

has anyone used kinect with ME3? :? Does it actually do anything worthwhile?

I tried it at a friends house. its ok , but sometimes It had a hard time hearing my commands. and tbh , it all could have been done with just using a headset ala old school socoms

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#55 Heil68
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] has anyone used kinect with ME3? :? Does it actually do anything worthwhile?

I used it for dialogue choices and with that it worked well.
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#56 ultraking
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Today i feel console never exist. :(SNIPER4321
ill translate for you sniper if you don't mind.... " Today I wish consoles never existed "
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#57 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Hmm, perhaps..

fable.jpg

But they'd be crazy to try and match Fable's..... Foliage. :twisted:

SecretPolice

How about make Kinect(lol) required for the MS version! lolz

:shock: Shhhh, it's Kinect 2 making the Next X version teh Definitive version since you truly feel like you are the Thief but how'd you get wind of that?

It's been an ancient Chinese secret 4ever.

Ob.... :P

just like Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor? :o BTW SBHA can be bought new for $8.99 now, you should be all over that! YOU'RE THE CONTROLLER!!!1!!! :o
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#58 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]Another game ruined thanks to consoles.Goyoshi12

Was already

On consoles, mate.

The only good ones were PC exclusive.
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#59 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] has anyone used kinect with ME3? :? Does it actually do anything worthwhile?Heil68
I used it for dialogue choices and with that it worked well.

Seconded since it was nice that I could eat / drink / smoke whilst going through the dialog options without having to pick up the controller every time prompted with a new choice and it did make it a bit more like having real conversation.

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#60 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] How about make Kinect(lol) required for the MS version! lolz Heil68

:shock: Shhhh, it's Kinect 2 making the Next X version teh Definitive version since you truly feel like you are the Thief but how'd you get wind of that?

It's been an ancient Chinese secret 4ever.

Ob.... :P

just like Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor? :o BTW SBHA can be bought new for $8.99 now, you should be all over that! YOU'RE THE CONTROLLER!!!1!!! :o

Oh Verne, Verne, you'l soon learn, K2 isn't your granpa's Kinect plus the fact that had SB:HA offered traditional control, Fromsoft efed up the game so much that it wouldn't have mattered ... bad game is bad but g'head keep trying. :P

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#61 Mitazaki
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I would be lying if I said I wasn't worried about one of my favorite franchise but then again Thief 3 was also on Xbox and I found myself really liking that. Plus isn't this the same team that also made Deus Ex: HR? If so, then that's a very good team to have. While I am not a big fan of the new look, my main worries are the gameplay, Garrett is not a fighter and so I would hate to see any emphasis on combat and to me, the biggest deal breaker would be the voice actor, if it's not the original voice actor, I don't know if I could play it.

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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] the fact that garrett paints his fingernails is the only thing that made me connect to him. i thought, "here's one smart metrosexual thief, he understands the importance of treated nails". became a fan instantly. but now? i can't see that connection. i mean, there are no painted nails. how can i like him? this is a complete betrayal to the series.GD1551

"We wanted to bring him more for the modern audience of today's console market," Cantin carried on. "He's now in the game doing more action moves and that's how we wanted the costume and the suit to reflect that.


Well the red seems to be referring to gameplay, so yeah. It's obviously a bit more action oriented for the console audience, and I don't mind that at all.

Good thing action and combat aren't synonyms. He doesn't look suited for combat, he looks more agile though. Instead of jumping to conclusions like the crybabies that call themselves 'fans', how about you: 1- put some trust in the guys that gave us human revolution 2- look at what would actually make sense, a more acrobatic garrett, as seen by the concept art shown. 3- not assume that the game will have lots of combat because someone said the word 'action'. Unless you think mirror's edge doesn't count as action.
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#63 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]Today i feel console never exist. :(ultraking
ill translate for you sniper if you don't mind.... " Today I wish consoles never existed "

Your English isn't that great either. And we all know what he's saying.
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#64 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] How about make Kinect(lol) required for the MS version! lolz blue_hazy_basic

It says better with Kinect right there on the cover. FACT :P

Mass-Effect-3-Xbox-360-Box-Art_0-650x650

has anyone used kinect with ME3? :? Does it actually do anything worthwhile?

I hear tell the convo system is great with it, and it's easier to give orders to squadmates. But as people have said, it's essentially just a microphone. That seems to be it's best use, apart from "waggle games"
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#65 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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Did anyone actually care about Garret as a character? Thief games... beyond the first were mediocre.
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#66 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] has anyone used kinect with ME3? :? Does it actually do anything worthwhile?SecretPolice

I used it for dialogue choices and with that it worked well.

Seconded since it was nice that I could eat / drink / smoke whilst going through the dialog options without having to pick up the controller every time prompted with a new choice and it did make it a bit more like having real conversation.

Maybe I'll try it, replaying ME3 atm ... never actually used kinect with a proper game.
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#67 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] I used it for dialogue choices and with that it worked well. blue_hazy_basic

Seconded since it was nice that I could eat / drink / smoke whilst going through the dialog options without having to pick up the controller every time prompted with a new choice and it did make it a bit more like having real conversation.

Maybe I'll try it, replaying ME3 atm ... never actually used kinect with a proper game.

Yeah, it's no biggie and tbh, I never planned on using Kinect with the game but using it that way was kinda a nice plus. I need to get my ME3 back from my son cuz I have yet to play it with the new ending and frankly, lately, I've been thinking about it and would like to play through the game one more time.

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#68 ShadowDeathX
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I would be lying if I said I wasn't worried about one of my favorite franchise but then again Thief 3 was also on Xbox and I found myself really liking that. Plus isn't this the same team that also made Deus Ex: HR? If so, then that's a very good team to have. While I am not a big fan of the new look, my main worries are the gameplay, Garrett is not a fighter and so I would hate to see any emphasis on combat and to me, the biggest deal breaker would be the voice actor, if it's not the original voice actor, I don't know if I could play it.

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Keyword: Today's Console Market. Today's console market is full with a bunch of action kiddies, bro gamers, and tons of casuals. Xbox was a billion times more core than today's console word.

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#69 ShadowDeathX
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Can anyone remind me a time when the developers said they wanted to appeal to the current console market AND the game turned out better than before?? *crickets* *crickets* Anyone?
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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Can anyone remind me a time when the developers said they wanted to appeal to the current console market AND the game turned out better than before?? *crickets* *crickets* Anyone?

Resident Evil 6.
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Can anyone remind me a time when the developers said they wanted to appeal to the current console market AND the game turned out better than before?? *crickets* *crickets* Anyone?

Resident Evil 6.

That is a horrible game.
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#72 freedomfreak  Online
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That is a horrible game.faizan_faizan
That's not how you spell masterpiece.
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#73 Wasdie  Moderator
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Well the game needs to sell.

Like it or not, the series isn't huge at all and if they are going to put it on the consoles and drastically increase the production values, they have to make sure it sells. 

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#74 runbleduck
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Cool they made Garrett a super ninja now (with goth makeup to look extra deadly). Hopefully it will be like Ninja Gaiden 3 where he pulls off many deadly killing moves and dodging explosions through QTE.
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I really, really hate the new look for garret from those shots in the OP. What's with the F*cking eye shadow?

he looks far too young as well.

most of my hype is gone now, you can say blah blah blah it doesn't effect the gameplay, but the fact of the matter is that Garret was an awesome character and really didn't need to be changed this drastically.

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#76 locopatho
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I really, really hate the new look for garret from those shots in the OP. What's with the F*cking eye shadow?

he looks far too young as well.

most of my hype is gone now, you can say blah blah blah it doesn't effect the gameplay, but the fact of the matter is that Garret was an awesome character and really didn't need to be changed this drastically.

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Appearance is definitely the most important thing in a FIRST PERSON game!?
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We already have Assassin's Creed series and Metal Gear and Splinter Cell.

Thief is just one more stealth game more or less.

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#78 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I really, really hate the new look for garret from those shots in the OP. What's with the F*cking eye shadow?

he looks far too young as well.

most of my hype is gone now, you can say blah blah blah it doesn't effect the gameplay, but the fact of the matter is that Garret was an awesome character and really didn't need to be changed this drastically.

locopatho

Appearance is definitely the most important thing in a FIRST PERSON game!?

Where did I say it was the most important thing?

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#79 PernicioEnigma
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As long as they don't ruin the gameplay to appeal to kids with the attention span of a gold fish, but we all know they probably will.
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#80 PernicioEnigma
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We already have Assassin's Creed series and Metal Gear and Splinter Cell.

Thief is just one more stealth game more or less.

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Assassins's Creed and MGS were never pure stealth games, and Splinter Cell hasn't been good since last gen.
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#81 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

I really, really hate the new look for garret from those shots in the OP. What's with the F*cking eye shadow?

he looks far too young as well.

most of my hype is gone now, you can say blah blah blah it doesn't effect the gameplay, but the fact of the matter is that Garret was an awesome character and really didn't need to be changed this drastically.

ReadingRainbow4

Appearance is definitely the most important thing in a FIRST PERSON game!?

Where did I say it was the most important thing?

Well his appearence is enough to kill most of your hype apparently, despite anything else.
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#82 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] Appearance is definitely the most important thing in a FIRST PERSON game!?locopatho

Where did I say it was the most important thing?

Well his appearence is enough to kill most of your hype apparently, despite anything else.

And that would be called my opinion, I really liked the original garrett from thief 1-3.

Of course that's only one part of the game and garrett was a big reason why, but it's a cumulation of all design aspects that make a game. And a drastic change of a characters design can in some ways spell out a change in gameplay elements also. I'm fully expecting a larger focus on combat this time around despite what they say.

call me cautiously pessimistic.

I don't think Stephen Russell is reprising his role as garret now especially if they are going for a younger image. Something I'm not excited about.

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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

Where did I say it was the most important thing?

ReadingRainbow4

Well his appearence is enough to kill most of your hype apparently, despite anything else.

And that would be called my opinion, I really liked the original garrett from thief 1-3.

Yeah,

And he looks

Pretty much the same.

 

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080624225509/thief/images/7/7c/Garrett2.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thief Image

Oh

Wait...my

Bad. He's weairng

A mask now; damn you

Edios for covering 50% of his

Face. I am no longer emotionally attached

To this character. How can I be when I can't even see

His lips? I am no longer connected nor do I like this character

Any more.

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#84 ultraking
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[QUOTE="ultraking"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]Today i feel console never exist. :(faizan_faizan
ill translate for you sniper if you don't mind.... " Today I wish consoles never existed "

Your English isn't that great either. And we all know what he's saying.

well aren't you fun
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#85 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] Well his appearence is enough to kill most of your hype apparently, despite anything else.Goyoshi12

And that would be called my opinion, I really liked the original garrett from thief 1-3.

Yeah,

And he looks

Pretty much the same.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080624225509/thief/images/7/7c/Garrett2.jpg

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thief Image

Oh

Wait...my

Bad. He's weairng

A mask now; damn you

Edios for covering 50% of his

Face. I am no longer emotionally attached

To this character. How can I be when I can't even see

His lips? I am no longer connected nor do I like this character

Any more.

I really, really hate the new look for garret from those shots in the OP. What's with the F*cking eye shadow?

thankfully he looks better in game, I thought they changed his design based on those game informer shots, dude looks like **** voldermort otherwise.

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#86 biggest_loser
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I don't blame consoles. I blame the foolish developers who think that everything has to be new again. If you ask the fans they'll tell you they want the old Garrett. God save them if they don't have Russell as the voice actor. There will be riots. They haven't done their research. They're just creating more work for themselves.
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#87 ReadingRainbow4
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I don't blame consoles. I blame the foolish developers who think that everything has to be new again. If you ask the fans they'll tell you they want the old Garrett. God save them if they don't have Russell as the voice actor. There will be riots. They haven't done their research. They're just creating more work for themselves. biggest_loser

Finally, someone who isn't an idiot in this thread.

and I agree whole heartedly on Russell, he is Garrett plain and simple.

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#88 Cherokee_Jack
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No f*cking sh!t.

If this was the hardcore unforgiving Thief sequel of your dreams, it would never have been made with a decent budget. If you don't like what they're doing, go do a Kickstarter or something instead of bellyaching.

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Thanks Obama.
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#90 Goyoshi12
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I don't blame consoles. I blame the foolish developers who think that everything has to be new again. If you ask the fans they'll tell you they want the old Garrett. God save them if they don't have Russell as the voice actor. There will be riots. They haven't done their research. They're just creating more work for themselves. biggest_loser

It has to be a new

At this point. Games have

Evolved and grown and so has

The community. There's now a whole

Generation that has never heard of or known

Of the Thief seires. This is a way of bringing that series

Back into the modern day for the new audiences. Of course

Hardcore, old school gamers don't like the change and want it all to be

Just like the original. No changes. No nothing. Just reinstall Deus Ex, will you?

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#91 biggest_loser
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]I don't blame consoles. I blame the foolish developers who think that everything has to be new again. If you ask the fans they'll tell you they want the old Garrett. God save them if they don't have Russell as the voice actor. There will be riots. They haven't done their research. They're just creating more work for themselves. Goyoshi12

It has to be a new

At this point. Games have

Evolved and grown and so has

The community. There's now a whole

 



I challenge you to find any pure stealth game that is as good as Thief.  

I'm serious here: have you played the series before? If you haven't they're dirt cheap on Steam.  

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#92 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]I don't blame consoles. I blame the foolish developers who think that everything has to be new again. If you ask the fans they'll tell you they want the old Garrett. God save them if they don't have Russell as the voice actor. There will be riots. They haven't done their research. They're just creating more work for themselves. Goyoshi12

It has to be a new

At this point. Games have

Evolved and grown and so has

The community. There's now a whole

Generation that has never heard of or known

Of the Thief seires. This is a way of bringing that series

Back into the modern day for the new audiences. Of course

Hardcore, old school gamers don't like the change and want it all to be

Just like the original. No changes. No nothing. Just reinstall Deus Ex, will you?

so the call of duty franchise has evolved and grown past the days of Quake?

Change is not always a method of furthering a medium into something more, rarely it is. It's funny you mention Deus Ex, because the original is still a vastly superior game aside from production values.

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#93 ReadingRainbow4
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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]I don't blame consoles. I blame the foolish developers who think that everything has to be new again. If you ask the fans they'll tell you they want the old Garrett. God save them if they don't have Russell as the voice actor. There will be riots. They haven't done their research. They're just creating more work for themselves. biggest_loser

It has to be a new

At this point. Games have

Evolved and grown and so has

The community. There's now a whole



I challenge you to find any pure stealth game that is as good as Thief.

I'm serious here: have you played the series before? If you haven't they're dirt cheap on Steam.

He's just a taffer, let him be.

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#94 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]I don't blame consoles. I blame the foolish developers who think that everything has to be new again. If you ask the fans they'll tell you they want the old Garrett. God save them if they don't have Russell as the voice actor. There will be riots. They haven't done their research. They're just creating more work for themselves. biggest_loser

It has to be a new

At this point. Games have

Evolved and grown and so has

The community. There's now a whole

 



I challenge you to find any pure stealth game that is as good as Thief.  

I'm serious here: have you played the series before? If you haven't they're dirt cheap on Steam.  

*sigh*

I mean evolve

And grow as in we're

Not still churning out the same

Game from several years ago (shut up

About Call of Duty). Take Hitman. It evolved

In that it now used semi-conventional modern day

Gameplay to hook in new gamers while still trying to retain

That Hitman itch of the previous games. I wouldn't call it a success,

Obviously, but they brought Hitman back into the modern day gaming media.

Same with Tomb Raider. It's a resurection of a "dead" franchise and as we know

Resurections are never straight forward copies of what was once a living, breathing series.

Anyways, we still have a LONG way to go for Thief to even come out (we haven't even seen any gameplay

Footage, just heard "rumors" and even if those rumors are true they're still time to change) so try not to lose hope

Too soon. Also, aside from you and your opinion on their games...er...game, Edios Montreal sounds like the kind of company

That would listen to their fans. So...maybe...not saying you should but...er....write them a letter or pettition for certain things to be changed

With the game? I don't know. Weird things can happen with pettitions, especially the really strong, backed up ones (see Dark Souls).

 

I must shamefully say,

I have not yet played any of

The Thief games. I hope to correct

This flaw of my gaming backgruond in the

Coming year. Although, would Mark of the Ninja

Work? I've heard it's a really good game and has great

Pure stealth mechanics to it.

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[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

And that would be called my opinion, I really liked the original garrett from thief 1-3.

ReadingRainbow4

Yeah,

And he looks

Pretty much the same.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080624225509/thief/images/7/7c/Garrett2.jpg

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Thief Image

Oh

Wait...my

Bad. He's weairng

A mask now; damn you

Edios for covering 50% of his

Face. I am no longer emotionally attached

To this character. How can I be when I can't even see

His lips? I am no longer connected nor do I like this character

Any more.

I really, really hate the new look for garret from those shots in the OP. What's with the F*cking eye shadow?

thankfully he looks better in game, I thought they changed his design based on those game informer shots, dude looks like **** voldermort otherwise.

Yeah, f*ck eyeshadow, i want my painted fingernails again. If they don't fix that, the series is ruined, and dead to me.
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#96 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]

[QUOTE="Goyoshi12"]

It has to be a new

At this point. Games have

Evolved and grown and so has

The community. There's now a whole

 

ReadingRainbow4



I challenge you to find any pure stealth game that is as good as Thief.

I'm serious here: have you played the series before? If you haven't they're dirt cheap on Steam.

He's just a taffer, let him be.

I, sir, am a

Follower of the Builder.

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Is theif franchise similar to AC? If so, totally looking foward to it :3
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Is theif franchise similar to AC? If so, totally looking foward to it :3narutosup

Not.

Even.

F*cking.

Similar.

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[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Can anyone remind me a time when the developers said they wanted to appeal to the current console market AND the game turned out better than before?? *crickets* *crickets* Anyone?

Well you can keep invisible war, i'd rather play human revolution. And while its quality compared to the original is arguable, the new XCOM is undeniably a good game.
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[QUOTE="narutosup"]Is theif franchise similar to AC? If so, totally looking foward to it :3Goyoshi12

Not.

Even.

F*cking.

Similar.

Let's hope it doesn't become similar then.