Things that BOTHER Me about Halo..

How everyone in a multiplayer match is master chief. I mean how come in team battles it cant be one side of master cheif and the other side the aliens or something. in gears you have Locust vs Cog and resistance you have human VS chimera, that makes sense, not 2 teams of master cheifs lol.

No blood. I mean seriously, why do these games have M rating, its totally suitable for T rating.

Its too clean. I mean i want more wartorn enviroments, and wartorn atmosphere. "High Ground" map in the Halo 3 beta is a good start, snowbound and valhalla are awful, i admit that High ground is a great map.

All FPS this gen should ATLEAST be 32 Multiplayer online. Again getting back to the maps, Huge maps such as valhalla and snowbound are just boring with only 12-16 people, 32 people would be awesome.

And whats up with the matchmaking type system. One thing i Just love about Gears of war is being able to choose what type of match with ease. With Halo you have to sit and hope it puts you in a good match or else you have to either stick out and play that match or go to another match. (I hate when it puts me in a rockets match) man i hate playing rockets only

No it isn't. It's just the beta. You'll be able to play as the covenant and there's a new mode (infection) that'll have the flood.

Plus, have you never played this :?

No it isn't. It's just the beta. You'll be able to play as the covenant and there's a new mode (infection) that'll have floods.

Plus, have you never played this :?

kankthetank

Infection? Is that anything like Perfect Dark Zero?

Um, halo 2 had chief and elite models, and you can customize colors. Halo 3 will involve heavier customization.

There IS blood.

Matchmaking is opinion, though I do agree with you. I'd prefer to have matchmaking and an equally robust custom game searcher. It seems halo 3 will have this, but only time will tell.

32 players on Halo... sounds nice. Dunno if that'd be the best idea considering the gameplay, but I'd like to try that. 

I haven't played the beta but here's what bothers me.

1 dominant weapon (halo1 the pistol, halo2 the BR)

the needler is always useless.

stupid people in multiplayer (but hey it happens w/ every online game)

Videogamer1979 = BrutonNYC

Someone's ban dodging ;)

I haven't played the beta but here's what bothers me.

1 dominant weapon (halo1 the pistol, halo2 the BR)

the needler is always useless.

stupid people in multiplayer (but hey it happens w/ every online game)

jrhawk42

I think once I get this game, I will use this so called Needler. "Pff, why are you using such a useless weapon" *DEAD* Thats why!

I haven't played the beta but here's what bothers me.

1 dominant weapon (halo1 the pistol, halo2 the BR)

the needler is always useless.

stupid people in multiplayer (but hey it happens w/ every online game)

jrhawk42

heh. Then you should play the Beta. The weapons have become very balanced. The Needler has become an incredible weapon that a few people are complaining about it being powerful :lol: (you can't dual wield them anymore, though). Halo 3's multiplayer judging from the beta is better than both Halo 1 and 2.

The needler is pretty sweet in HALO3. I was shocked. It seems to do a lot more damage or something.JiveT

It does do more dmg,

Works best when the target is not dodging.

Since the rapid fire is not as fast.

[QUOTE="kankthetank"]

No it isn't. It's just the beta. You'll be able to play as the covenant and there's a new mode (infection) that'll have floods.

Plus, have you never played this :?

ArisShadows

Infection? Is that anything like Perfect Dark Zero?

Here: http://www.gamesradar.com/us/xbox360/game/news/article.jsp?articleId=20070518101018271074§ionId=1006&releaseId=2005000000000000000350

It's almost a confirmed rumor.

I haven't played the beta but here's what bothers me.

1 dominant weapon (halo1 the pistol, halo2 the BR)

the needler is always useless.

stupid people in multiplayer (but hey it happens w/ every online game)

jrhawk42

You havnt played Halo 3 beta then....

The AR is now the dominant weapon as you spawn with it, but because of this its a more even playing field for a newly spawned player, the needler is OMGWTF powerful now and cant be dual wielded because of the power increase.

Unfortunately there'll always be stupid people in multiplayer, no game is an exeption to that. 

Weapons are better balanced, huh? Where does the pistol fall in? It was arguably the best weapon in the original, but it just plain sucked in Halo 2. Does it fall in one of the extremes in the H3 beta, or somewhere in the middle?NamelessPlayer

The pistol is not in the Beta (However, there is a video on youtube where someone, somehow, got his game glitched and was able to create a custom game with the pistol included...It seemed more powerful than in Halo 1 but with no scope; then again, it isn't supposed to be in the beta so it's obvious Bungie is still working on it).

My friend and I somehow got into the custom games today and were messing around with all kinds of stuff.  There are so many option to toggle and stuff.  You can customize a match to do just about anything.  We had on 300% movement speed and 50% gravity and triple overshields and were doing all our fighting past the turrets on Snowbound.  It was pretty nuts.  At 300% you can run across Valhalla from one side to the other in about 10 seconds.   Believe me, if you can think of it, you can probably change the options on it in Halo 3.  The magnum is sweet too, 5 headshots and your opponent is dead, and it's dual weildable.  I can just see the new noob combo taking place already.  The plasma rifle/pistol and the magnum.  Take down their shields with a burst and BooM, one magnum headshot.THETRUEDOZAH

:o Don't tell me that was you who posted the youtube vid?

How everyone in a multiplayer match is master chief. I mean how come in team battles it cant be one side of master cheif and the other side the aliens or something. in gears you have Locust vs Cog and resistance you have human VS chimera, that makes sense, not 2 teams of master cheifs lol.

No blood. I mean seriously, why do these games have M rating, its totally suitable for T rating.

Its too clean. I mean i want more wartorn enviroments, and wartorn atmosphere. "High Ground" map in the Halo 3 beta is a good start, snowbound and valhalla are awful, i admit that High ground is a great map.

All FPS this gen should ATLEAST be 32 Multiplayer online. Again getting back to the maps, Huge maps such as valhalla and snowbound are just boring with only 12-16 people, 32 people would be awesome.

And whats up with the matchmaking type system. One thing i Just love about Gears of war is being able to choose what type of match with ease. With Halo you have to sit and hope it puts you in a good match or else you have to either stick out and play that match or go to another match. (I hate when it puts me in a rockets match) man i hate playing rockets only

VideoGamer1979

Halo 2 had Elite and MC models, but people didnt Elites since they had a slightly easier target to hit but that is fixed in halo 3. Also it seems they are adding in customization a lot to the character models now so you wont feel like your killing the same person over and over.

The blood splatters on the wall and ground as you get shot, thats something not even gears does surpsingly, but yes your body doesnt explode or anything.

Most players in Halo 2 played 4v4 maps at most so they didnt really try expanding on the ammount of players since its not something many would use.

The match making is better imo, its a pain in the ass waiting 20 mins sometimes for rooms to fill up in Gears.

Heres a preview of the customizable models in Halo 3.

Your are passing judgement on a BETA version? :| Wow...

Anyways, if you are talking about games on Halo 2 via Live, anyone who's a semi halo player knows that the Covenant aren't good choices in battles for obvious reasons.

How everyonge in a multiplayer match is master chief. I mean how come in team battles it cant be one side of master cheif and the other side the aliens or something. in gears you have Locust vs Cog and resistance you have human VS chimera, that makes sense, not 2 teams of master cheifs lol.

No blood. I mean seriously, why do these games have M rating, its totally suitable for T rating.

Its too clean. I mean i want more wartorn enviroments, and wartorn atmosphere. "High Ground" map in the Halo 3 beta is a good start, snowbound and valhalla are awful, i admit that High ground is a great map.

All FPS this gen should ATLEAST be 32 Multiplayer online. Again getting back to the maps, Huge maps such as valhalla and snowbound are just boring with only 12-16 people, 32 people would be awesome.

And whats up with the matchmaking type system. One thing i Just love about Gears of war is being able to choose what type of match with ease. With Halo you have to sit and hope it puts you in a good match or else you have to either stick out and play that match or go to another match. (I hate when it puts me in a rockets match) man i hate playing rockets only

VideoGamer1979

good point about not being able to be aliens...that is completely bogus for a next gen. game.  Look how popular Gears of War multiplayer becuase you really feel like there is a war between two factions not all master chief's. 

Another thing is the fact that Halo 3's graphics can't be described as anything but lackluster.  WTF how long has bungie had to develope this game and make a new engine or use the unreal engine and they didn't do squat.  Halo3 is Halo2 in HD with slightly more detail.  Very unimpressive

Your are passing judgement on a BETA version? :| Wow...

Anyways, if you are talking about games on Halo 2 via Live, anyone who's a semi halo player knows that the Covenant aren't good choices in battles for obvious reasons.

yoshi_64

Which they have said they have fixed thankfully. 

*blinks* Erm, you CAN be Elites, there IS blood, there ARE maps where there is rubble everywhere...are you sure you've even played Halo?Verge_6

 This is another alternate account from BrutonNYC/BigBoss

[QUOTE="VideoGamer1979"]

How everyonge in a multiplayer match is master chief. I mean how come in team battles it cant be one side of master cheif and the other side the aliens or something. in gears you have Locust vs Cog and resistance you have human VS chimera, that makes sense, not 2 teams of master cheifs lol.

No blood. I mean seriously, why do these games have M rating, its totally suitable for T rating.

Its too clean. I mean i want more wartorn enviroments, and wartorn atmosphere. "High Ground" map in the Halo 3 beta is a good start, snowbound and valhalla are awful, i admit that High ground is a great map.

All FPS this gen should ATLEAST be 32 Multiplayer online. Again getting back to the maps, Huge maps such as valhalla and snowbound are just boring with only 12-16 people, 32 people would be awesome.

And whats up with the matchmaking type system. One thing i Just love about Gears of war is being able to choose what type of match with ease. With Halo you have to sit and hope it puts you in a good match or else you have to either stick out and play that match or go to another match. (I hate when it puts me in a rockets match) man i hate playing rockets only

lawsonboy

good point about not being able to be aliens...that is completely bogus for a next gen. game.  Look how popular Gears of War multiplayer becuase you really feel like there is a war between two factions not all master chief's. 

Another thing is the fact that Halo 3's graphics can't be described as anything but lackluster.  WTF how long has bungie had to develope this game and make a new engine or use the unreal engine and they didn't do squat.  Halo3 is Halo2 in HD with slightly more detail.  Very unimpressive

:|

Are you being sarcastic or just plain ignorant? Read through all the messages in the thread before you post.

Oooh, I can play as an alien..taht is next gen :roll:

P.S: If you're still too bothered to check on the previous posts, i'll give you an answer: Yes, you can play as the covenant.

Plus, Halo 3's graphics are just fine. Nothing major but nothing bad either; and it's the MULTIPLAYER BETA.

[QUOTE="VideoGamer1979"]

How everyone in a multiplayer match is master chief. I mean how come in team battles it cant be one side of master cheif and the other side the aliens or something. in gears you have Locust vs Cog and resistance you have human VS chimera, that makes sense, not 2 teams of master cheifs lol.

No blood. I mean seriously, why do these games have M rating, its totally suitable for T rating.

Its too clean. I mean i want more wartorn enviroments, and wartorn atmosphere. "High Ground" map in the Halo 3 beta is a good start, snowbound and valhalla are awful, i admit that High ground is a great map.

All FPS this gen should ATLEAST be 32 Multiplayer online. Again getting back to the maps, Huge maps such as valhalla and snowbound are just boring with only 12-16 people, 32 people would be awesome.

And whats up with the matchmaking type system. One thing i Just love about Gears of war is being able to choose what type of match with ease. With Halo you have to sit and hope it puts you in a good match or else you have to either stick out and play that match or go to another match. (I hate when it puts me in a rockets match) man i hate playing rockets only

justforlotr2004

Halo 2 had Elite and MC models, but people didnt Elites since they had a slightly easier target to hit but that is fixed in halo 3. Also it seems they are adding in customization a lot to the character models now so you wont feel like your killing the same person over and over.

The blood splatters on the wall and ground as you get shot, thats something not even gears does surpsingly, but yes your body doesnt explode or anything.

Most players in Halo 2 played 4v4 maps at most so they didnt really try expanding on the ammount of players since its not something many would use.

The match making is better imo, its a pain in the ass waiting 20 mins sometimes for rooms to fill up in Gears.

Heres a preview of the customizable models in Halo 3.

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I actually don't like huge groups of people, 32 is too huge I think. I like to get semi-know who I am killing and getting killed by.ArisShadows

 Noobs generally like those big groups because it takes no skills, it just a noobfest. I prefer ~14, around that range is good for a balance game.

[QUOTE="VideoGamer1979"]

How everyonge in a multiplayer match is master chief. I mean how come in team battles it cant be one side of master cheif and the other side the aliens or something. in gears you have Locust vs Cog and resistance you have human VS chimera, that makes sense, not 2 teams of master cheifs lol.

No blood. I mean seriously, why do these games have M rating, its totally suitable for T rating.

Its too clean. I mean i want more wartorn enviroments, and wartorn atmosphere. "High Ground" map in the Halo 3 beta is a good start, snowbound and valhalla are awful, i admit that High ground is a great map.

All FPS this gen should ATLEAST be 32 Multiplayer online. Again getting back to the maps, Huge maps such as valhalla and snowbound are just boring with only 12-16 people, 32 people would be awesome.

And whats up with the matchmaking type system. One thing i Just love about Gears of war is being able to choose what type of match with ease. With Halo you have to sit and hope it puts you in a good match or else you have to either stick out and play that match or go to another match. (I hate when it puts me in a rockets match) man i hate playing rockets only

lawsonboy

good point about not being able to be aliens...that is completely bogus for a next gen. game.  Look how popular Gears of War multiplayer becuase you really feel like there is a war between two factions not all master chief's. 

Another thing is the fact that Halo 3's graphics can't be described as anything but lackluster.  WTF how long has bungie had to develope this game and make a new engine or use the unreal engine and they didn't do squat.  Halo3 is Halo2 in HD with slightly more detail.  Very unimpressive

It was arguably the best weapon in the original, but it just plain sucked in Halo 2.NamelessPlayer

Funny, I do have fond memories of kickin' posterior with the Magnum, especially dual wielded (with anything but the needler). It was fast and precise, even if it lacked a scope. 

I might be remembering incorrectly, but I think I recall it having a better damage/second ratio than the SMG if you had a good enough trigger finger. 

I actually don't like huge groups of people, 32 is too huge I think. I like to get semi-know who I am killing and getting killed by.ArisShadows

I agree 100%.  More than 16 people on a map ruins all stragedy.  You cant effectively communicate with the other people on your team and form a cohesive stragegy when you have tons of people on your team.  

[QUOTE="NamelessPlayer"] It was arguably the best weapon in the original, but it just plain sucked in Halo 2.Grive

Funny, I do have fond memories of kickin' posterior with the Magnum, especially dual wielded (with anything but the needler). It was fast and precise, even if it lacked a scope.

I might be remembering incorrectly, but I think I recall it having a better damage/second ratio than the SMG if you had a good enough trigger finger.

Not in close-quarters death-dances.  

I have to agree about the enviroments, many of them are just to open. The game is trying to be to much like Unreal Tounry, which a lot of people like.

But your other points I don't see eye to eye. I like 16 players online. If the maps are made correctly, 16 people is just as chatoic as 32+, but not so chaotic where you lose control. 16 is a great number for a console game. You don't want 32 people fighting for mic time either.

A 32 option would be nice except people without a good connection(Like me) would suffer big time.I get a horrendus lag in 4 vs 4 matches already,32 no thnx.Maybe in the future.

Also for what i know Halo 3 is gonna be "T",Halo 2 only got "M" because  the bare naked *ss that someone thought it was funny.

About the environments,i thought they were cool,each one of them has a different way to be played.

I have to agree about the enviroments, many of them are just to open. The game is trying to be to much like Unreal Tounry, which a lot of people like.

But your other points I don't see eye to eye. I like 16 players online. If the maps are made correctly, 16 people is just as chatoic as 32+, but not so chaotic where you lose control. 16 is a great number for a console game. You don't want 32 people fighting for mic time either.

Wasdie

16 is BAD for halo.  i'll stick with 4v4 and 2v2.  :D

[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="VideoGamer1979"]

How everyone in a multiplayer match is master chief. I mean how come in team battles it cant be one side of master cheif and the other side the aliens or something. in gears you have Locust vs Cog and resistance you have human VS chimera, that makes sense, not 2 teams of master cheifs lol.

No blood. I mean seriously, why do these games have M rating, its totally suitable for T rating.

Its too clean. I mean i want more wartorn enviroments, and wartorn atmosphere. "High Ground" map in the Halo 3 beta is a good start, snowbound and valhalla are awful, i admit that High ground is a great map.

All FPS this gen should ATLEAST be 32 Multiplayer online. Again getting back to the maps, Huge maps such as valhalla and snowbound are just boring with only 12-16 people, 32 people would be awesome.

And whats up with the matchmaking type system. One thing i Just love about Gears of war is being able to choose what type of match with ease. With Halo you have to sit and hope it puts you in a good match or else you have to either stick out and play that match or go to another match. (I hate when it puts me in a rockets match) man i hate playing rockets only

RawDeal_basic

Halo 2 had Elite and MC models, but people didnt Elites since they had a slightly easier target to hit but that is fixed in halo 3. Also it seems they are adding in customization a lot to the character models now so you wont feel like your killing the same person over and over.

The blood splatters on the wall and ground as you get shot, thats something not even gears does surpsingly, but yes your body doesnt explode or anything.

Most players in Halo 2 played 4v4 maps at most so they didnt really try expanding on the ammount of players since its not something many would use.

The match making is better imo, its a pain in the ass waiting 20 mins sometimes for rooms to fill up in Gears.

Heres a preview of the customizable models in Halo 3.

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That model reminds me of Robocop.

Not in close-quarters death-dances.

jachichorro

It's not a CQC weapon, though. It's a mid range one. I meant at this range... I never actually intentionally used the magnum in close quarters... and that meant that when I did, I had the short end of the stick before the first bullet (or plasma glob) was fired.

How everyone in a multiplayer match is master chief. I mean how come in team battles it cant be one side of master cheif and the other side the aliens or something. in gears you have Locust vs Cog and resistance you have human VS chimera, that makes sense, not 2 teams of master cheifs lol.

No blood. I mean seriously, why do these games have M rating, its totally suitable for T rating.

Its too clean. I mean i want more wartorn enviroments, and wartorn atmosphere. "High Ground" map in the Halo 3 beta is a good start, snowbound and valhalla are awful, i admit that High ground is a great map.

All FPS this gen should ATLEAST be 32 Multiplayer online. Again getting back to the maps, Huge maps such as valhalla and snowbound are just boring with only 12-16 people, 32 people would be awesome.

And whats up with the matchmaking type system. One thing i Just love about Gears of war is being able to choose what type of match with ease. With Halo you have to sit and hope it puts you in a good match or else you have to either stick out and play that match or go to another match. (I hate when it puts me in a rockets match) man i hate playing rockets only

VideoGamer1979

Gears of War online is awful. And in online im less concerned about the look of things and more concerned about the actual level design, balance, fun, etc... 

Also you can be aliens if you want. I dont really care what skin people have personally. And if you want to rationalize it just say theyre all different Spartans i guess. 

[QUOTE="jachichorro"]

Not in close-quarters death-dances.

Grive

It's not a CQC weapon, though. It's a mid range one. I meant at this range... I never actually intentionally used the magnum in close quarters... and that meant that when I did, I had the short end of the stick before the first bullet (or plasma glob) was fired.

Now that is something I agree with. Magnum+charged plasma pistol=almost instant death.