This Gen was all about being Nickled and Dimed for Overpriced DLC

Im not a fanboy of anything. I dont own a ps3 and my wiis collecting dust and has been for like 6 months, so the 360 is what ive been playing. And im not complaining about rock band dlc so please dont even bring that up :) please

Really its rediculous how much devs get away with. First off there have been countless overpriced 3-4 map Map Packs flooding the market for shooters that cost a good 10 dollars. When games these days already are $60, is it really necesarry for ONLY 3-4 maps for 10 dollars add on to that price? MAny shooters abuse that. Take Halo 3, probably the greatest example of this. You pay $60 for the game, your basically getting Campaign, Multiplayer, and forge (or whatever small feautures are included). However without the Map Packs, this limits how many playlists you can play on, really lowering the out of the box multiplayer experience. Alreadyhaving to pay for XBL is one thing, and being nickled and dimed all over the place is just wrong. If you add the two mythic map packs and the legendary one, this adds up to over $70! Very shameless on whoever prices this stuff! And look at Gearsof War 2! Assuming your copy came with the flashback maps, there are the 2 other maps out there already for 10 dollars each, making the full experience EIGHTY DOLLARS!

Also, OVERPRICED HARDDRIVES! So first they get you to pay the 50 dollars for xbox live and then persuade you to buy microsoft points. Have you noticed that whenever they advertise dlc on the 360, on the same page theres and ad that tells you to upgrade you harddrive to a 120gig? My 20gig hd isn't lasting long in all this. I only have 5 gigs left, Thats just from game saves and Map Packs and Expansion Packs! Ive only had my 360 for only a year! So how will I get more memory? Thats right Buy The Overpriced Harddrive! YAYYY. Its basically 100 dollars for 60 gigs and 150 dollars for 120 gigs. Overpriced we all know, but thats what we all get for downloading all that stuff.

And Day 1 dlc is purely shameless! Remember Modern Warfare 2 at E3 where they annouced that there will be 2 map packs to Buy at Launch? I would NOT at all be excited for that. Already they show us how greedy they are by making us pay for maps at launch. If I were there I would be booing. Its nothing to be excited for.

It is a scam, i only buy it if i believe its quality work and the devs deserve it. For example some of the only DLC i bought this gen has been for fallout 3 and KZ2. Killzone 2 i dont regret because the maps are great, each is unique and each has a element that makes it exciting(ex. one map has a random nuke explosion every few mins, or train map where you fight on moving train). Also GG's made a great game, runs a good website, so i believe they deserve the money for the maps. FO3 was a bit different, the broken steel DLC was good, but i wish i never bought the pitt DLC, complete waste of money.

Yeah I agree but I thinks it's here to stay. Devs have seen all the money they can make by doing this so I don't see it going away. It might get worst next gen since it's going to be even more expensive to make games.

I know, too many devs are taking out content from games and releasing it as overpriced DLC.

And it keeps getting worse with devs charging more money for less content.

This rarely happens on PC but I see your point about consoles. All DLC should be limited to stuff like GTA4 DLC. Everything else should be free imo.

I agree dood. The habit's of DLC are pretty disgusting. :? 800ms points for 3 maps? Meh...wont be getting my money.

I remember Ninja Gaiden DLC content being free on the Original XBox. The content added so much to the story mode plus about 2 hours of extended gameplay. 2 missions for free! I miss that.OldProf

that is microsoft , im getting nickled and dimed next month because their cheap , wifi adapter burns out ,

its ridiculous that ps3 and wii -which is cheaper then the 360 has wifi and more pain comes with that extra 50 dolars for xboxlive ya microsoft- some one who makes more pc software should know wifi was the standard by now,

forcing us to pay 99 for a wifi adapter when my linksys adapters that are on my pc is only 49,99 , lol

and last me since i got it ,

but the 360 one which is 40 more burned out twice already

and 60 for controllers, ? 60 for games, , that have less then half the content of most n64 games lol -play pd0 halo 3 lol , youll notice

the only 5 long lasting games all are in one genre - sandbox-

saints row 1 crackdown

gta iv

saints row 2 and test drive unlimited-which is a racing game, also midnight club la, other thtne that i can easily complete ANY 360 GAME WITHIN A DAY IF I SAT DOWN AND CONCENTRATED ON IT , LOL THAT IS how lazy devs have gotten , focus on the multiplayer which isnt offline , gets less active every day that passes by , ,

and they want to charge us for map packs songs and other material that more then 80 percent of the time was going to be in these games from the get go ,

re5 any one pd0 any one

pd0 even with all the downloads is nothing compared to the n64 version , and what downloadable maps did htey do oh thats right

temple-now this one is definatelly one of those that would have been in there on the xbox , because the floor plans where there from goldeneye and pd64 and felicity- again pd64 goldeneye and quantum of solace has it to

the other 4 im willing to bet were also ment to be in there the extra mission- we had 3 extras in pd64
and the more bots options, that should have been there because the n64 one had it

theres still more missing,

dont even get me started on the guitar hero crap ,

all 360s can play your own music, there for the 360 versions should let you play any song you shall please,

making us pay for songs we probably have on our hard drives is useless for htose who like metal and rock ,lol

we could be plaiying more hten double the songs ,

example

why pay 1350 for a whole ac dc album when we can go pick up the retail album and rip it to the xbox360 or ps3 hdd and not only can we do that but itll also work in our cars our cd players our steroes,

if they allowed us to play them in side hte game , we shouldnt be forced to buy a 2nd album on the game lol

thats where they are nickel and diming us each week

and netflix- go to you know where, 320 -560 points for a rental ,

i dont think so ,

i rather go to the store and own it for 20 , and play it when the heck i want to

i can even pay 4 dollars at a pawn for any dvd , -max payne- i just got today for 4 dollar so why would or does any one rent movies to their hdd,

thats rip off the minute ms or sony go digital distribution is the minute you wont see me buying their garbage i know nintendo they wont do this to its consumers

they dont nickel and dime us

they dont even charge for any thing that should be included- multiplayer is free , um we pay 10 dollars less in games

we pay no live fees no dlc fees

no nothing

just streigh up games

the way ps2 etc was

and thats the way it should be in fact i dont even think we should be paying 49,99 for games when movies are more time consuming money consuming, but they only cost at the most 30 dollars on bluray and 20 on dvd

that is the price i think games should cost at the most

out side bundles etc

as if 49,99 is enough ms and sony bumped the price of theirs to 60 ,.

and what about those halo expansions for 60 dollars,

give me a break ,

make sonthing new

this is like re releasing a last gen game with no updates for 10 dollars more- madden any one

Another reason I'm glad I get any multiplats I want on PC.

you're right. i feel like a total ass for wasting $30 on Fallout 3 DLC. should've just gotten the GOTY edition. :|

The developers are charging you people for stuff for people that should be free. But idiots keep buying in to this crap so we are gonna have to live with it.

Good DLC is stuff like GTA4 the lost and the damned. Great single player add on. Bad DLC is crap like map packs and CHEAT CODES. You know CHEAP CODES! Stuff that was always free until now? And also stuff like new units or vehicals. Again that stuff should be free. Developers should show their love for their fanbase! Not MILK them!!

The developers are charging you people for stuff for people that should be free. But idiots keep buying in to this crap so we are gonna have to live with it.

Good DLC is stuff like GTA4 the lost and the damned. Great single player add on. Bad DLC is crap like map packs and CHEAT CODES. You know CHEAP CODES! Stuff that was always free until now? And also stuff like new units or vehicals. Again that stuff should be free. Developers should show their love for their fanbase! Not MILK them!!

JangoWuzHere

the LBP DLC annoys me the most. when i ever i play a user created level its says you do not own all the content in this level. im not paying £3 for a sackboy outfit.

but the flip side stuff like GTALOTD, BP Big surf island, Fallout 3 DLC, Shimering ilse keep it coming

^ that one made my eyes bleed.pyromaniac223

LMAO...LMAO.

Oh, gawd.

I have tried, and tried, to read his posts day in and day out, but I can never make it to the end, it's like a maze...I feel like the Devil is trying to blind me, or something,lol.

Even the sig is out of control!

As far as DLC, I agree, too much exploitation, but once the wolves got whiff of the fresh meat, there was no turning back I'm afraid.

Bear in mind, that some DLC is excellent and welcome, it's just a shame that 60% or more is exploitive in nature.

Agreed. What's next dlc for better graphics ? Dlc these days are riduculous 10$ for a map pack?

True, but by supporting MS you are supporting what they do.

True, but by supporting MS you are supporting what they do.

-Reggaeton-

Funny, I haven't bought any DLC since the Mythic maps came with my Halo Wars and I enjoy them. Lost and the Damned is considered amazing DLC well worth the price as well.

You only get ripped off if you bought it and didn't like it. If it looked bad/too expensive to you however, why the hell would you buy it?

Don't support costume updates and game mode unlock DLCs if you think they are a waste of money.

Thing is some people must have bought them, and been happy or it wouldn't continue.

In an age where games cost multi millions to develop over usually 2 or more years these devs are going to take ANY opportunity to make more money. It is a business. I would do the same thing and so would most of you.

Obviously you want some of the stuff these devs are offering or you wouldn't be complaining about missing out because you don't think its worth money.

The sense of entitlement some gamers have is down right scary. No one owes you anything. I see extra content as an incentive to re-visit games. If you don't then just ignore it like I do for the vast majority of the DLC that hits. I don't however believe that it should be free just because I want it. Regardless of how much time is spent developing the stuff, it is a product made to make money. Why is this so hard for people to grasp and or looked upon as a bad thing? Because people are cheep ass tightwads that think EVERYTHING should be free :roll:

If the DLC is good in my opinion and reasonably priced I see no problem with buying it. If the DLC looks like a rip to me, but someone else wants to spend their money on it then why the hell should I stop them from buying it or stop the developers from making it? There is always going to be a difference of opinion in value and quality, and I say live and let live.

[QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"]

True, but by supporting MS you are supporting what they do.

IronBass

Bu bu bu teh MS invented teh DLC to milk people. Anyone pay $2 for a tihirt in HOME?

100$ for a 60GB HD??? With that price I can get a 1TB HD, this (live,dlc and 10$ more)is the reason I haven't bought a console.

^ that one made my eyes bleed.pyromaniac223

[QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"]

True, but by supporting MS you are supporting what they do.

IronBass

I had to buy that rip off wifi adapter. Sold my gamecube for it :( Justinge3

I just know someones going to think this is just a MS slam and are going to go at it. Anyway DLC is a rip. Heck I don't like downloading anything to consoles. I'll get free stuff and maybe a DLC that's an extension but that's about it.

The Sims 3 Alone has been nickle'd and dime'd probably the hardest...I mean they didn't even release that much content on the frickin retail disc for gods sake!

[QUOTE="Justinge3"]I had to buy that rip off wifi adapter. Sold my gamecube for it :( WilliamRLBaker

All this DLC is in direct response to increase development costs and the used game market.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="Justinge3"]I had to buy that rip off wifi adapter. Sold my gamecube for it :( Justinge3

its what i've done in the past drill a hole get some long ethernet cable then plaster the hole with the cable in it with good equal lenghts on each side you wont have to pull, hell you dont even have to plaster it if you drill a small enough hole then crimp the end which is easy you can slide the cable through freely without much air transfer. then there's the wireless option you don't HAVE to buy the wireless adaptor you can buy a wireless bridge.

I have an old 5-6 year old linksys G/A gaming adaptor i used on my ps2 and original xbox and it worked fine on the 360 there are quite a few wireless bridges that officially work on the 360, if a wireless bridge is certified to work on XP or vista it will invariably work on the 360, you can pay as little as 30-40 dollars for some wireless bridges there is an official list of wireless bridges that work with 360 on the xbox.com website and that doesn't include the fact ones that aren't officially recognized on that site will work any ways as i said XP and vista ceritified wireless bridges will invariably work on the 360. you weren't forced to buy the 100 dollar or less wireless usb dongle *i''ve found them for as little as 80 bux online*

YOU didn't do the research into alternatives whether that alternative be geting some ethernet cable and drilling a small hole in your ceiling or wall, or going a wireless bridge route.

My nephew recently wanted xbox live and for a while i had it setup on my pro launch console in his room with my old wireless linksys bridge then i decided id pay 24 dollars for 100 foot of cable and i routed it through my closet wall into his closet for a direct link thus ensuring the top speed i could get out of it.

Given how expensive development costs are these days, devs need to do what they can to recoup costs.

This gen is all about everybody wanting a handout. You want a free game? There are plenty out there. The term "nickle and diming" is way overused by people who don't want to be charged for anything. Guess what? Stuff costs money to make, businesses need to stay open and people that work at those places need to eat. It's too bad for somebody that wants to sit on their butt all day and get free entertainment, but it's real life.

If it's free, then good. You got lucky. If it ain't then you have to realize that these things are products and the people that make them want to get paid. I'm not mad at them for that.

*shrug*

I just haven't bought anything that I didn't think was worth it. If you don't want the horse armor...don't buy the horse armor.

Having DLC is better than having none at all, the only problem I find is when devs release prenium DLC 2-3 weeks after they released their new game.

It is better for gamers to have options for new content for their games, devs also generate revenue from DLC and in the end both parties win. People seem to be forgetting that nobody is forcing you to buy DLC.

*shrug*

I just haven't bought anything that I didn't think was worth it. If you don't want the horse armor...don't buy the horse armor.

Teufelhuhn

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

*shrug*

I just haven't bought anything that I didn't think was worth it. If you don't want the horse armor...don't buy the horse armor.

heretrix

Doesn't really bother me, I'm not a huge MP fan so I don't find myself paying for map packs.

The developers are charging you people for stuff for people that should be free. But idiots keep buying in to this crap so we are gonna have to live with it.

Good DLC is stuff like GTA4 the lost and the damned. Great single player add on. Bad DLC is crap like map packs and CHEAT CODES. You know CHEAP CODES! Stuff that was always free until now? And also stuff like new units or vehicals. Again that stuff should be free. Developers should show their love for their fanbase! Not MILK them!!

JangoWuzHere

first part i agree with. we only see premium dlc because people are buying it, so somebody out there--probably half of you raging about it--this is literally your fault. because almost everyone i see who is flaming angry about dlc is one way or another usually has purchased some kind of silly stuff like horse armor, sfiv outfits, dead space skins, etc. dont talk a big game about how dlc is so awful and then turn around and buy into it.

the second part i totally disagree with in terms of not milking your fanbase. if your fanbase is stupid enough to pay for map packs/cosmetic changes/stuff that is obviously on the disc, as a developer, youre an idiot to turn down almost-free money.

therehas been some commendable use of dlc. some of the fallout expansions have been very nice. lost and the damned was fantastic. burnout paradise has seen the greatest use of dlc out of any console game yet imo. for the most part its been a terrible waste of something with so much potential.

then again, this is why i usually stick to pc gaming. too bad steam is ruining that at a pretty good clip.

I blame you guys..who buy the crap..YEAH I'M LOOKING AT YOU :evil:

*shrug*

I just haven't bought anything that I didn't think was worth it. If you don't want the horse armor...don't buy the horse armor.

Teufelhuhn

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

*shrug*

I just haven't bought anything that I didn't think was worth it. If you don't want the horse armor...don't buy the horse armor.