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#1 g805ge
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFDBQmA6k68

Yeah, Halo is fun but nothing special and it's nothing compared to most PC shooters. It didn't do anything new, even in the console FPS department. GoldenEyewas a lot more revolutionary and innovative than Halo.

To call Halo a masterpiece in the art of video is like calling Titanic a brilliant film, its not.

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#2 heretrix
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People hate on Halo so much it's embarrassing.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFDBQmA6k68

Yeah, Halo is fun but nothing special and it's nothing compared to most PC shooters. It didn't do anything new, even in the console FPS department. GoldenEyewas a lot more revolutionary and innovative than Halo.

To call Halo a masterpiece in the art of video is like calling Titanic a brilliant film, its not.

g805ge

but see, the titanic is a brilliant film

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#4 g805ge
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People hate on Halo so much it's embarrassing.

heretrix

We don't hate Halo, it just doesn't deserve the AAA status it has been getting. I bet you haven't seen the video.

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#5 sikanderahmed
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the amount of hate halo gets alone proves how awesome it is ;)

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#6 treedoor
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I'm glad you like to talk about Halo so much since you obviously hate when people talk about Halo..............

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#7 mtradr43
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last i checked, it has scored overall higher on gamerankings than half life 2. besides, i can say the same thing about half life. i would have given hl2 somewhere in the AA range due to the stupidly easy puzzle like parts, and the fact that at times you had to drive a vehicle for 20 minutes to lengthen the game a bit.
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#8 g805ge
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[QUOTE="g805ge"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFDBQmA6k68

Yeah, Halo is fun but nothing special and it's nothing compared to most PC shooters. It didn't do anything new, even in the console FPS department. GoldenEyewas a lot more revolutionary and innovative than Halo.

To call Halo a masterpiece in the art of video is like calling Titanic a brilliant film, its not.

Mr_Apple_Soup

but see, the titanic is a brilliant film

Titanic is a cliche melodramatic teen romance movie, like how Halo is a generic by the number sci-fi FPS.

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#9 lvgaming
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Halo Series must be doing something right if it has such a huge following. I spent most of the time pistol whipping my buddy on the co-op side of Halo, but other than that I never got into it.

It's odd because I enjoy fps even if they have a generic feel to them, I played Gore for awhile on the PC.

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#10 -GeordiLaForge-
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I've been playing first person shooters since Wofenstein 3D came out... Halo on the XBox is the best first person shooter that I've ever played. And I've mainly been a PC gamer my whole life :o
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#11 majadamus
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This is a tired topic.
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#12 Myzz617
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[QUOTE="g805ge"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFDBQmA6k68

Yeah, Halo is fun but nothing special and it's nothing compared to most PC shooters. It didn't do anything new, even in the console FPS department. GoldenEyewas a lot more revolutionary and innovative than Halo.

To call Halo a masterpiece in the art of video is like calling Titanic a brilliant film, its not.

Mr_Apple_Soup

but see, the titanic is a brilliant film

LMAO thats a bad analogy
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#13 pyromaniac223
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But...Titanic was awesome.
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#14 Mr_Apple_Soup
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[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

[QUOTE="g805ge"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFDBQmA6k68

Yeah, Halo is fun but nothing special and it's nothing compared to most PC shooters. It didn't do anything new, even in the console FPS department. GoldenEyewas a lot more revolutionary and innovative than Halo.

To call Halo a masterpiece in the art of video is like calling Titanic a brilliant film, its not.

g805ge

but see, the titanic is a brilliant film

Titanic is a cliche melodramatic teen romance movie, like how Halo is a generic by the number sci-fi FPS.

while i can't say i agree with your taste in movies, why does generic = bad? halo didn't bring really anything new to the table, but it took elements from other things, brought them together and made one hell of a game. when the first halo came out, FPSs on consoles were still babies. halo was one of the first console FPSs to actually bring all the good things about them together (gameplay, story, graphics, music, multiplayer) successfully. not every game has to "change the face of gaming" to be good
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#15 VendettaRed07
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There have been so many freaking threads about how halo isnt special its driving me crazy

Well guess what, alot of people love it, and play it all the time, its one of the easiest shooters to just pick up and play and have fun, unlike some of those insanely frustrating pc shooters because everyone is so good its hard to get 1 kill in. Its fun, brightly colored has its own unique feel and style, not many console shooters have the same floaty unrealistic gameplay that it has thats so much fun, so im really sick of hearing about people saying halo is nothing special, if it really wasnt, NO ONE WOULD TALK ABOUT IT THIS MUCH

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#16 mitu123
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Oh boy, another Halo bashing thread, millions don't care BTW as they continue to enjoy Halo.

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#17 jarhead20
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

People hate on Halo so much it's embarrassing.

g805ge

We don't hate Halo, it just doesn't deserve the AAA status it has been getting. I bet you haven't seen the video.

mmm yes it does.. Golden Eye is ALSO a masterpiece and very revolutionary for consoles, and yes there's a load of good PC shooters but Halo was excellent for his time and for the present time too so I dont see why it doesnt deserve AAA status, It had a great story, gameplay, visuals, etc.. The fact of the matter is that only 'cause is xbox and microsoft to the bone people bash it so hard..The game itself is pretty good and many lesser games had obtained AAA status in the past so is no big deal..

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#18 ActicEdge
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Why exactly are we still hating on halo like it the new kid? Its 2009, its getting old and stales now.

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#19 mariokart64fan
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the thing is, you cant compare that pos halo to titanic because titanic was only made a movie twice, once in black and white-different from 1996 film halo was since then made milked halo 3 was basically halo 2 with new missions, lo l not much else added and even then theres games that are actually better , and have twice the content ,eg goldeneye perfect dark 1 timesplitters .

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#20 Legendaryscmt
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The more you talk about Halo the more you add to it's popularity.

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#21 dragonfly110
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you can call Halo whatever you want, the point is that it is popular and its popularity revolutionized console FPS's.

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#22 flazzle
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[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

[QUOTE="g805ge"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFDBQmA6k68

Yeah, Halo is fun but nothing special and it's nothing compared to most PC shooters. It didn't do anything new, even in the console FPS department. GoldenEyewas a lot more revolutionary and innovative than Halo.

To call Halo a masterpiece in the art of video is like calling Titanic a brilliant film, its not.

g805ge

but see, the titanic is a brilliant film

Titanic is a cliche melodramatic teen romance movie, like how Halo is a generic by the number sci-fi FPS.

Actually, Titanic is pretty phenomenal when you consider that every scene of the ship that doesn't have the two fictional characters is historically based, either via documentation or photos or both. Much effort was to keep things as historically accurate as possible, especially in set design and props. You'll never get closer to seeing what the ship was like than watching that movie (unless they actually built the replica I heard about years ago).

Plus the fact of the amount it generated is pretty amazing as well.

So yes, I would call the Titanic moviebrilliant.

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#23 -GeordiLaForge-
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Actually, Titanic is pretty phenomenal when you consider that every scene of the ship that doesn't have the two fictional characters is historically based, either via documentation or photos or both. Much effort was to keep things as historically accurate as possible, especially in set design and props. You'll never get closer to seeing what the ship was like than watching that movie (unless they actually built the replica I heard about years ago

flazzle
They left out a few small details. Like the fact that the Titanic was actually a spy ship built to spy on the wealthy aristocrats, politicians, and government officials...
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#24 uglyhippos
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[QUOTE="g805ge"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]

but see, the titanic is a brilliant film

flazzle

Titanic is a cliche melodramatic teen romance movie, like how Halo is a generic by the number sci-fi FPS.

Actually, Titanic is pretty phenomenal when you consider that every scene of the ship that doesn't have the two fictional characters is historically based, either via documentation or photos or both. Much effort was to keep things as historically accurate as possible, especially in set design and props. You'll never get closer to seeing what the ship was like than watching that movie (unless they actually built the replica I heard about years ago).

Plus the fact of the amount it generated is pretty amazing as well.

So yes, I would call the Titanic moviebrilliant.

Alot of better movies do that too, like Cinderella Man and Saving Private Ryan. The production value were great not going to lie about that. They had alot of money to make the movie look and feel like you on the Titanic. But the story itself was not great. Its was generic and I felt like I watched this movie a billions times over with a bigger budget. In my opinion is was really overrated and was not one of the best romance movies ever like alot of people said it was. But if you like the movie, thats cool. Not trying to give you grief for liking a movie. I just want to say my opinion.

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#25 Rob-Belmont
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Stop trying to get more views.

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#26 g805ge
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[QUOTE="flazzle"]

[QUOTE="g805ge"]Titanic is a cliche melodramatic teen romance movie, like how Halo is a generic by the number sci-fi FPS.

uglyhippos

Actually, Titanic is pretty phenomenal when you consider that every scene of the ship that doesn't have the two fictional characters is historically based, either via documentation or photos or both. Much effort was to keep things as historically accurate as possible, especially in set design and props. You'll never get closer to seeing what the ship was like than watching that movie (unless they actually built the replica I heard about years ago).

Plus the fact of the amount it generated is pretty amazing as well.

So yes, I would call the Titanic moviebrilliant.

Alot of better movies do that too, like Cinderella Man and Saving Private Ryan. The production value were great not going to lie about that. They had alot of money to make the movie look and feel like you on the Titanic. But the story itself was not great. Its was generic and I felt like I watched this movie a billions times over with a bigger budget. In my opinion is was really overrated and was not one of the best romance movies ever like alot of people said it was. But if you like the movie, thats cool. Not trying to give you grief for liking a movie. I just want to say my opinion.

The same analogy can be said for Halo.

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#27 flazzle
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[QUOTE="uglyhippos"]

[QUOTE="flazzle"]

Actually, Titanic is pretty phenomenal when you consider that every scene of the ship that doesn't have the two fictional characters is historically based, either via documentation or photos or both. Much effort was to keep things as historically accurate as possible, especially in set design and props. You'll never get closer to seeing what the ship was like than watching that movie (unless they actually built the replica I heard about years ago).

Plus the fact of the amount it generated is pretty amazing as well.

So yes, I would call the Titanic moviebrilliant.

g805ge

Alot of better movies do that too, like Cinderella Man and Saving Private Ryan. The production value were great not going to lie about that. They had alot of money to make the movie look and feel like you on the Titanic. But the story itself was not great. Its was generic and I felt like I watched this movie a billions times over with a bigger budget. In my opinion is was really overrated and was not one of the best romance movies ever like alot of people said it was. But if you like the movie, thats cool. Not trying to give you grief for liking a movie. I just want to say my opinion.

The same analogy can be said for Halo.

BINGO

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people still hating on halo? its time to move on and hate on something else, geez
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#29 MortalDecay
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFDBQmA6k68

Yeah, Halo is fun but nothing special and it's nothing compared to most PC shooters. It didn't do anything new, even in the console FPS department. GoldenEyewas a lot more revolutionary and innovative than Halo.

To call Halo a masterpiece in the art of video is like calling Titanic a brilliant film, its not.

g805ge
Halo is a good game...Saying that it brought nothing new to the table is just showing jealousy of it's success. Why bother? KZ2 brought nothing new to the table, either...As a matter of fact, when has any recent console FPS been revolutionary?
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#30 pyromaniac223
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[QUOTE="uglyhippos"]

[QUOTE="flazzle"]

Actually, Titanic is pretty phenomenal when you consider that every scene of the ship that doesn't have the two fictional characters is historically based, either via documentation or photos or both. Much effort was to keep things as historically accurate as possible, especially in set design and props. You'll never get closer to seeing what the ship was like than watching that movie (unless they actually built the replica I heard about years ago).

Plus the fact of the amount it generated is pretty amazing as well.

So yes, I would call the Titanic moviebrilliant.

g805ge

Alot of better movies do that too, like Cinderella Man and Saving Private Ryan. The production value were great not going to lie about that. They had alot of money to make the movie look and feel like you on the Titanic. But the story itself was not great. Its was generic and I felt like I watched this movie a billions times over with a bigger budget. In my opinion is was really overrated and was not one of the best romance movies ever like alot of people said it was. But if you like the movie, thats cool. Not trying to give you grief for liking a movie. I just want to say my opinion.

The same analogy can be said for Halo.

The fact is, even though it wasn't necessarily something NEW, Titanic was an incredibly well made movie. If you want to say the same about Halo, then that's fine.
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#31 Camer999
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFDBQmA6k68

Yeah, Halo is fun but nothing special and it's nothing compared to most PC shooters. It didn't do anything new, even in the console FPS department. GoldenEyewas a lot more revolutionary and innovative than Halo.

To call Halo a masterpiece in the art of video is like calling Titanic a brilliant film, its not.

g805ge

You make accounts bashing halo all the time and millions of people disagree with you. The fact that you are talking about it still, is a compliment to the game.

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#32 PAL360
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Halo is so bad ppl need to talk about it dozens of times a day

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#33 g805ge
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[QUOTE="g805ge"]

[QUOTE="uglyhippos"] Alot of better movies do that too, like Cinderella Man and Saving Private Ryan. The production value were great not going to lie about that. They had alot of money to make the movie look and feel like you on the Titanic. But the story itself was not great. Its was generic and I felt like I watched this movie a billions times over with a bigger budget. In my opinion is was really overrated and was not one of the best romance movies ever like alot of people said it was. But if you like the movie, thats cool. Not trying to give you grief for liking a movie. I just want to say my opinion.

flazzle

The same analogy can be said for Halo.

BINGO

What can I say? I've been playing FPS since Catacomb 3D to say so. :)

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#34 rybe1025
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I love that so many try to bring Halo down. All it shows it just how big Halo really is. There is so many AAA fps shooters that have come and gone to never be talked much about again. Halo is not like that though. The fanbase grows more and more. Also the haters keep hating but if Halo was not such a major force in FPS games then the haters would not have to keep trying to bring it down. In the end Halo is one of the best FPS to come along. To all the haters please by all means keep posting these lame thread because it spreads the Halo popularity.
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#35 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="flazzle"]

[QUOTE="g805ge"]The same analogy can be said for Halo.

g805ge

BINGO

What can I say? I've been playing FPS since Catacomb 3D to say so. :)

My first FPS was Wolfenstien. I also played all the other so called classics like Doom, Quake, Duke Nuke em, Half-Life and so on. My point is many people have been playing FPS for a LONG time so who cares when you your first one was? Just because you started playing at some certain time does in no means make you a expert. I think Halo is without a doubt of of the best FPS games ever. For me it is tied with the best ever. Opinions are fun aren't they. No one here is some expert.

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#36 PAL360
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I love that so many try to bring Halo down. All it shows it just how big Halo really is. There is so many AAA fps shooters that have come and gone to never be talked much about again. Halo is not like that though. The fanbase grows more and more. Also the haters keep hating but if Halo was not such a major force in FPS games then the haters would not have to keep trying to bring it down. In the end Halo is one of the best FPS to come along. To all the haters please by all means keep posting these lame thread because it spreads the Halo popularity.rybe1025

True. And sometimes we see a post like "i was wrong ppl. the game is actually great" :P

The other hater probably never played the game!

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#37 mayforcebeyou
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i disagrree with what that video says and its been said many times over which is tiring. I don't think what u said about not being special about fps shooters is true Also people titanic wasn't thsat great.
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*facepalm*

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#39 g805ge
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*facepalm*

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A Sony fanboy that disagrees? That's the first.

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#40 everythingsux50
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That dude's calling bioshock and gears of war innovative and downing halo franchise LOL. halo was more innovative than those games. halo brought front and rear wheel steering to first person shooters on vehicles brought melee with weapon ability to shoot 2 different weapons individually im sure i could think of more. all bioshock did was rip off systemshock and gears of war ripped off duke nukem time to kill/winback and killswitch.
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#41 everythingsux50
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halo did some bad things too though, it brought aim assist to games, aim assist is when the game will pull the crosshairs on ur enemy for you.
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#42 everythingsux50
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if they stopped adding aim assist for the goddamn console noobs halo might be decent, people should force bungie to take this out of the game and actually require people to aim the crosshair themselves, instead of the game pulling the crosshair on enemy for u.
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#43 SMR-Venom
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Oh boy, another Halo bashing thread, millions don't care BTW as they continue to enjoy Halo.

mitu123

Tell me about it.

Why exactly are we still hating on halo like it the new kid? Its 2009, its getting old and stales now.

ActicEdge

Agreed.

The more you talk about Halo the more you add to it's popularity.

Legendaryscmt

LOL How very old...

So many Halo threads...I feel like...snapping a mutha******* neck! (+5 for anyone who gets the reference)

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#44 everythingsux50
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If aim assist is so required for console shooters how come quake 4 which is a faster game goddamn twitch shooter has no aim assist on xbox360 when playing online. lol and the freelook is still more smooth/accurate than halo's. it's just bungie suck at programming their freelookin.
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#45 kingtito
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the thing is, you cant compare that pos halo to titanic because titanic was only made a movie twice, once in black and white-different from 1996 film halo was since then made milked halo 3 was basically halo 2 with new missions, lo l not much else added and even then theres games that are actually better , and have twice the content ,eg goldeneye perfect dark 1 timesplitters .

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So if a if 2 sequals equal milkage then what does that make the Final Fantasy series? Or the Mario series, how about Metal gear series? Halo is and was a great game. Like someone already said "if it wasn't a great game no one would be talking about it this much".
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#46 chicagodon
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HALO is a casual game with casual appeal. It sells like a casual game because it is. Just like wii fit and the GTA series. Its great and accessable for FPS noobs and just fun enuf for hardcore FPS players (most will tell you it not the best FPS eva). If you love HALO cool if you think its overrated cool. what difference does it make.

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#47 kingtito
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[QUOTE="g805ge"]

[QUOTE="flazzle"]

[QUOTE="g805ge"]The same analogy can be said for Halo.

BINGO

What can I say? I've been playing FPS since Catacomb 3D to say so. :)

That doesn't make your OPINION any more valid than a person that just started playing games. When all is said and done it's just an OPINION, nothing more.
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#48 chicagodon
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if they stopped adding aim assist for the goddamn console noobs halo might be decent, people should force bungie to take this out of the game and actually require people to aim the crosshair themselves, instead of the game pulling the crosshair on enemy for u.everythingsux50
they added aim assist because it is a casual FPS. Loved by noobs. anyone who has been playing FPSs from the time of Doom 1 or UT1 will tell you it a casual Fps.
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#49 kingtito
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[QUOTE="everythingsux50"]if they stopped adding aim assist for the goddamn console noobs halo might be decent, people should force bungie to take this out of the game and actually require people to aim the crosshair themselves, instead of the game pulling the crosshair on enemy for u.chicagodon
they added aim assist because it is a casual FPS. Loved by noobs. anyone who has been playing FPSs from the time of Doom 1 or UT1 will tell you it a casual Fps.

What are you talking about???? It's not anymore casual than any other FPS. Just because it's popular doesn't make it casual. The game is fun PERIOD. Oh yeah and I've been playing video games since Pong. Guess that makes my opinion more valid.
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#50 FonkeyMunky7
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[QUOTE="g805ge"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFDBQmA6k68

Yeah, Halo is fun but nothing special and it's nothing compared to most PC shooters. It didn't do anything new, even in the console FPS department. GoldenEyewas a lot more revolutionary and innovative than Halo.

To call Halo a masterpiece in the art of video is like calling Titanic a brilliant film, its not.

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Halo is a good game...Saying that it brought nothing new to the table is just showing jealousy of it's success. Why bother? KZ2 brought nothing new to the table, either...As a matter of fact, when has any recent console FPS been revolutionary?

That's the point I wanted to bring up. There really hasn't been too much innovation in the FPS series in general for a while. Halo 3 was a very solid game with good co-op and solid online multiplayer. I haven't played Killzone 2, but I am pretty sure the same can be said for it too.