This is EASILY the worst decision that could be made! (COD related)

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#1 REforever101
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we've all known that cod5 is going back to WWII, and its being made by treyarch. which guarantees it will suck something awful

i dont know why the cod franchise is shared, but who ever decided to give cod5 to treyarch made a big big mistake.

cod4 owned, its agreed on. It took a little while, but many casuals have switched onto the game. hell, even the psycho halo players in my school have moved on to playing it. Almost everyone that plays it, loves it

the problem is this. most casuals wont have ANY idea that cod5 isnt being made by infinity ward. They're going to get all excited and go out and buy it almost as soon as it comes out. Then in about two seconds they will immediately realize that something has gone horribly wrong. They'll hate it, and then they'll be turned off from the cod series forever

they wont have any idea how their newly beloved cod could have gone so wrong. i guarantee none of them will realize its a different dev who made it.

so then IW made cod6 comes out, all pretty and awesome....but then none of the new guys who joined the series with cod4 are going to buy it....cause they'll think it sucks like cod5 will

i came to this realization after some guy asked why cod3 sucked so badly when compared to cod4. i explained that it was made by different people but he still didnt quite get it

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#2 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Is there a link that its going bak to WW2 ?
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#3 jethrovegas
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I don't think that Infinity Ward is going to do any more Call of Duty games, period.

I think they are going to work on a new IP.

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#4 pDbOy_26
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I agree, just like COD2 to COD3 cod2's online was and is far better then cod3, thethis is just was shceme for them to make as much money as possible on the COD franchise. Hopefully all the online players, will realized this and just stick with cod4, and ingnore the 5th installment.
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#5 hate19
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Why is Treyarch being bashed so much for this? What made CoD 3 so horrible?
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#6 wmc540
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Why is Treyarch being bashed so much for this? What made CoD 3 so horrible?hate19

The fact that it was.

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#7 REforever101
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I don't think that Infinity Ward is going to do any more Call of Duty games, period.

I think they are going to work on a new IP.

jethrovegas

it would be cool to see what they could do with a new IP (id sure as hell buy it), im a huge cod fan

i have been ever since the day cod1 came out....and i still want more

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#8 prodiqy32
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Why is Treyarch being bashed so much for this? What made CoD 3 so horrible?hate19

agreed. it was a good game. not as good as 2 but still better then most crap released.

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#9 TheGTAvaccine
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Acutally, I just basically said everything in your post to my friend last night.

Kind of creepy. It's sad though really, that they areletting Treyarch make CoD5.

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[QUOTE="hate19"]Why is Treyarch being bashed so much for this? What made CoD 3 so horrible?prodiqy32

agreed. it was a good game. not as good as 2 but still better then most crap released.

i had fun with cod3 online....but it was pretty bad

i still havent even beaten the sp. i just dont want to

not to mention most players couldnt even join into games easily because they didnt realize they had to set themselves to a static ip and forward the correct ports

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#11 REforever101
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Why is Treyarch being bashed so much for this? What made CoD 3 so horrible?hate19

treyarch is a terrible dev that ruins the great IP of an amazing dev

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#12 KingStoph
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How is it the Worst Decision ever made? people StillEnjoy the WWII Setting

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#13 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="hate19"]Why is Treyarch being bashed so much for this? What made CoD 3 so horrible?REforever101

treyarch is a terrible dev that ruins the great IP of an amazing dev

I ask again is there a link of them saying that there going to back to ww2 ?
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#14 Lord_Ahti
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They should atleast make some new WWII stuff and not the typical normandy kind of used material
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#15 REforever101
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[QUOTE="REforever101"]

[QUOTE="hate19"]Why is Treyarch being bashed so much for this? What made CoD 3 so horrible?Gh0st_Of_0nyx

treyarch is a terrible dev that ruins the great IP of an amazing dev

I ask again is there a link of them saying that there going to back to ww2 ?

its old news man, i dont have the link anymore. i just thought it was common knowledge on this forum now

ive seen a lot of threads about it

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#16 rcignoni
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I thought you were killed by zombies... Hm.

I agree with the fact that it's a very bad decision. COD can't go from bad to good like that, or it will leave people fed up with the entire series.

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#17 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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I didnt know they were going back to WW2 but if its true the they better make it like battelfeild bad company and have a totally destrctuble battlefeild. Or Im not buying.
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#18 Sparky04
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Why is Treyarch being bashed so much for this? What made CoD 3 so horrible?hate19

It did almost nothing to push the series forward in anyway and the online was worse.

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#19 lawlessx
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for those who asked

http://xbox360focus.com/2007/12/07/call-of-duty-5-may-be-going-back-to-wwii.aspx

i guess it was never confrimed..unless somebody has the article saying otherwise

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[QUOTE="hate19"]Why is Treyarch being bashed so much for this? What made CoD 3 so horrible?wmc540

The fact that it was.

it wasnt. it was the same exact as cod2 but the levels just werent quite as fun. there was nothing horrible about it and the mace was the best cod level ever and yes its on cod3. but overall cod2 and 4 blow it away

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#21 chansaet
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Treyarch is not a bad developer. It's just that IW is so much better. Treyarch is what EA needs however. I think everyone would be happier if Treyarch was bought out by EA and if they make the MOH series from now on. Since that's not going to happen Treyarch should make a new series of FPS which stay in WWII while IW keeps the COD series and keeps it in modern times.

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#22 Saturos3091
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[QUOTE="hate19"]Why is Treyarch being bashed so much for this? What made CoD 3 so horrible?wmc540

The fact that it was.



It wasn't that bad. Just nothing special like the original COD was.

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#23 VoodooHak
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I still don't understand what was so bad about CoD3? Maybe people didn't like the class-based multiplayer? I dunno. CoD2 was more intense, but 3 wasn't terrible at all.

Someone enlighten me.

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#24 Heil68
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The WWII games must of sold well enough to warrant another one is my guess.
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#25 AvIdGaMeR444
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But the real question hasn't been answered...Why isIW sharing a franchise with Treyarch? It makes no sense. Does IW get proceeds from Treyarch's projects or something? You don't see other franchises sharing with other devs. Yes, Obsidian Entertainment made KOTOR 2, not Bioware. But, this was because Bioware had decided (at the time...may not be true now) that they wouldn't make another KOTOR for a long while. If Treyarch didn't make CoD games, then IW would have a CoD game every 2 years. This seems fine to me. But Treyarch ruins each CoD game that releases imo.
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#26 mistervengeance
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I don't think that Infinity Ward is going to do any more Call of Duty games, period.

I think they are going to work on a new IP.

jethrovegas

good

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#27 7fold
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COD 4 is a great game, especially the graphics and the story. But the AI is retarded at best. Still fun though
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#28 lawlessx
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But the real question hasn't been answered...Why isIW sharing a franchise with Treyarch? It makes no sense. Does IW get proceeds from Treyarch's projects or something? You don't see other franchises sharing with other devs. Yes, Obsidian Entertainment made KOTOR 2, not Bioware. But, this was because Bioware had decided (at the time...may not be true now) that they wouldn't make another KOTOR for a long while. If Treyarch didn't make CoD games, then IW would have a CoD game every 2 years. This seems fine to me. But Treyarch ruins each CoD game that releases imo. AvIdGaMeR444

that could be the reason why..IW must want a new COD game out every year like madden. its more money for them anyway right?

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#29 leonjuretic
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treyarch cant make a decent game from my experience its all mediocre...but damn those spider-man games draw me in
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#30 whoody12
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I don't think that Infinity Ward is going to do any more Call of Duty games, period.

I think they are going to work on a new IP.

jethrovegas

I agree, btw what does IP meen ?

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#31 Not-A-Stalker
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Wasn't it already confirmed IW was working on a new IP? Pretty sure it was.
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#32 The_Caesar
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this is the same thing with the splinter cell series, development it shared between Ubisoft montreal and Ubisoft shanghai. Montreal developed the first and third games, and are now working on conviction. Splinter cells two and four just weren't up to par, imo.
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we've all known that cod5 is going back to WWII, and its being made by treyarch. which guarantees it will suck something awful

i dont know why the cod franchise is shared, but who ever decided to give cod5 to treyarch made a big big mistake.

cod4 owned, its agreed on. It took a little while, but many casuals have switched onto the game. hell, even the psycho halo players in my school have moved on to playing it. Almost everyone that plays it, loves it

the problem is this. most casuals wont have ANY idea that cod5 isnt being made by infinity ward. They're going to get all excited and go out and buy it almost as soon as it comes out. Then in about two seconds they will immediately realize that something has gone horribly wrong. They'll hate it, and then they'll be turned off from the cod series forever

they wont have any idea how their newly beloved cod could have gone so wrong. i guarantee none of them will realize its a different dev who made it.

so then IW made cod6 comes out, all pretty and awesome....but then none of the new guys who joined the series with cod4 are going to buy it....cause they'll think it sucks like cod5 will

i came to this realization after some guy asked why cod3 sucked so badly when compared to cod4. i explained that it was made by different people but he still didnt quite get it

REforever101

Do you own stocks in Activision or something?

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#34 Wasdie  Moderator
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It is a genious stratagy. Hear me out.

With the other developer working on CoD 5, IW now can put more time and effort into CoD6. CoD 4 is selling like hotcakes and making a massive profit, CoD 5 will as well no matter how bad it is (but really, CoD 3 wasn't that bad guys).

This is good because IW has much more time to make a really good CoD 6, probably back in modern times or another war (WWI anybody?). They will beable to address the minor issues in CoD 4 and make a killer CoD 6. I am actually happy that they are able to take their time and refine the game agian like they could with CoD 4.

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#35 rocktimusprime
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i wouldnt mind it if they went back to all major wars in one game like WW1, WW2, Korea, Nam, Desert Storm, then Now.

Would make an interesting campaign.

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#36 MoldOnHold
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It's not so much the fact that Treyarch is making it that annoys me. They're quite talented people.

It's just that I'm sick of WWII at this point.
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#37 MoldOnHold
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It is a genious stratagy. Hear me out.

With the other developer working on CoD 5, IW now can put more time and effort into CoD6. CoD 4 is selling like hotcakes and making a massive profit, CoD 5 will as well no matter how bad it is (but really, CoD 3 wasn't that bad guys).

This is good because IW has much more time to make a really good CoD 6, probably back in modern times or another war (WWI anybody?). They will beable to address the minor issues in CoD 4 and make a killer CoD 6. I am actually happy that they are able to take their time and refine the game agian like they could with CoD 4.

Wasdie
I actually think that IW should branch out and make a new IP, focusing on modern warfare or future warfare or whatever it wants. Treyarch can focus on WWII as much as it wants.

Really, the only thing that makes CoD 4 a CoD game is the fact that it has "Call of Duty" in it's name. :?
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#38 krp008
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Whoever owns the COD franchise demands a new COD game every year, so IW lets Treyarch handle the next COD game so they can have more time to complete the "real" sequel.

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#39 MoldOnHold
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Whoever owns the COD franchise demands a new COD game every year, so IW lets Treyarch handle the next COD game so they can have more time to complete the "real" sequel.

krp008
Actually, Activision is the one who calls all the shots here. They just choose to flip-flop developers.
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[QUOTE="hate19"]Why is Treyarch being bashed so much for this? What made CoD 3 so horrible?Sparky04

It did almost nothing to push the series forward in anyway and the online was worse.

it wasstill better than most MoH games:o

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#41 jethrovegas
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[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

I don't think that Infinity Ward is going to do any more Call of Duty games, period.

I think they are going to work on a new IP.

whoody12

I agree, btw what does IP meen ?

In this sense it means Intellectual Property.

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[QUOTE="wmc540"]

[QUOTE="hate19"]Why is Treyarch being bashed so much for this? What made CoD 3 so horrible?blues3531

The fact that it was.

it wasnt. it was the same exact as cod2 but the levels just werent quite as fun. there was nothing horrible about it and the mace was the best cod level ever and yes its on cod3. but overall cod2 and 4 blow it away

no it wasent the exact same. The weapons felt wayyyy different in cod 3 over 2, they had no kick to them and felt very toyish. The game modes in the game felt alot different compared to cod2, hell i dont even remember cod 3 having search and destory. Also its map designs were terrible compared to cod 2. Cod 2 honestly has some of the funnest maps ive ever played on games before, i dont recall their names but i can easily picture over 5 right now from cod2, i can picture 1 for cod3. Last but not least the graphics were crap compared to 2. Cod 3 looked like COD big red one with more detailed character models, depth of field, and a little more detail to maps.

Believe me i own and played every cod on PC and consoles(not handhelds), and cod 1, 2, and 4 are the only ones that can be called COD because they are each fun and awsome with very little flaws. COD 3, finest hour, and big red one were trash compared to 1 2 and 4.

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#44 michael098
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How is it the Worst Decision ever made? people StillEnjoy the WWII Setting

KingStoph

Its not the WW11 part its the Treyarch part that was a bad decision.

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#45 REforever101
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[QUOTE="KingStoph"]

How is it the Worst Decision ever made? people StillEnjoy the WWII Setting

michael098

Its not the WW11 part its the Treyarch part that was a bad decision.

yup

though im REALLY tired of the wwii setting. thats why i was so glad when IW first said cod4 was set in modern times

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#46 StarkJJ
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[QUOTE="prodiqy32"]

[QUOTE="hate19"]Why is Treyarch being bashed so much for this? What made CoD 3 so horrible?REforever101

agreed. it was a good game. not as good as 2 but still better then most crap released.

i had fun with cod3 online....but it was pretty bad

i still havent even beaten the sp. i just dont want to

not to mention most players couldnt even join into games easily because they didnt realize they had to set themselves to a static ip and forward the correct ports

I had fun playing COD3 online...never had any problems getting into matches either. Maybe we should...actually wait for the game to come out and judge it then??? I guess doom and gloom will get you more replies though....

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#47 biggamerhk
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you're logic is so poorly thought out. and also, I honestly dont understand why people hate Treyarch so much, and why they think CoD3 sucks.
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#48 Spartan_024
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I think that they're doing the same thing with CoD3 and 4.Infinity Wardlet Treyarch create CoD3 while they are busy developing CoD4. I guess they are developing CoD6 right now...lol
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#49 HAZE-Unit
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COD series is going to be just like madden and any sport game.

LINK

"In a conference call today meant to hash out plansfor the newly-merged Activision Blizzard, Activision CEO Robert Kotick has laid out thefuture ofthe publisher's marquee franchises: sequels will be forthcoming in a big way.

In his own words, Kotick explained that gamers should "expect virtually every one of those properties (its 10 multi-million-unit selling franchises) will be exploited on an annual or close to annual basis." In other words, expect yearly installments of all the big hitters, including Call of Duty, Guitar Hero, and Tony Hawk.

Following that announcement was the confirmation that Call of Duty 5, Guitar Hero 4, a new DreamWorks game, a new Marvel game, and a new racing game by Activision's recently-acquired Bizarre Creations are all in the works.

One need only look to recent Tony Hawk games and the abomination that was Call of Duty 3 to realize why this strategy, while good for business, may be bad for the games themselves. Haphazard development can and will lead to subpar entries in these otherwise acclaimed series, and itlooks like the cashmay be rushing to Activision's head."

Expect COD4 to be the best in the series.

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#50 Wartzay
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

It is a genious stratagy. Hear me out.

With the other developer working on CoD 5, IW now can put more time and effort into CoD6. CoD 4 is selling like hotcakes and making a massive profit, CoD 5 will as well no matter how bad it is (but really, CoD 3 wasn't that bad guys).

This is good because IW has much more time to make a really good CoD 6, probably back in modern times or another war (WWI anybody?). They will beable to address the minor issues in CoD 4 and make a killer CoD 6. I am actually happy that they are able to take their time and refine the game agian like they could with CoD 4.

MoldOnHold

I actually think that IW should branch out and make a new IP, focusing on modern warfare or future warfare or whatever it wants. Treyarch can focus on WWII as much as it wants.

Really, the only thing that makes CoD 4 a CoD game is the fact that it has "Call of Duty" in it's name. :?

not really, its a call of duty game exactly like the other 3 but with models and skins/textures for a modern setting.

Expect COD4 to be the best in the series.

HAZE-Unit

LIES :cry:

COD: UO 4ever!