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#1 Blackbond
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I called it, I called it I so called it!

When I first heard that SNK was billing KOF XII as the Ultimate Fighter which would include completely redrawn HI-RES Sprites in HD I knew it that this was going to be the break through I was waiting for in what the next step 2D Sprite Fighters should look like.

First KOF XII Trailer

Is a comparison trailer comparing KOFXI to KOFXII. Kotaku didn't exactly get good vid quality but here it is for what its worth.

Confirmed for PS3 and 360 in 2009

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#2 HuusAsking
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I called it, I called it I so called it!

When I first heard that SNK was billing KOF XII as the Ultimate Fighter which would include completely redrawn HI-RES Sprites in HD I knew it that this was going to be the break through I was waiting for in what the next step 2D Sprite Fighters should look like.

First KOF XII Trailer

Is a comparison trailer comparing KOFXI to KOFXII. Kotaku didn't exactly get good vid quality but here it is for what its worth.

Confirmed for PS3 and 360 in 2009

Blackbond
First Street Fighter 4, now KOF12. Both 3D games using artistic shading to retain the 2D look. Sounds like fighters have a potential for a comeback.
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Well Kotaku said they called it too, so who do we believe? :P

Anyway, this is great to see and yes it would've been better for Capcom to stick strictly to 2D. It's nice to see SNK back in the game recently, hope they continue to compete with Arc Systems, Sammy and the like. 2009 is so far away though, oh well, there's always KoF XI.

p.s: Ash Crimson looks great as usual.

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#4 Blackbond
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Well Kotaku said they called it too, so who do we believe? :P

Anyway, this is great to see and yes it would've been better for Capcom to stick strictly to 2D. It's nice to see SNK back in the game recently, hope they continue to compete with Arc Systems, Sammy and the like. 2009 is so far away though, oh well, there's always KoF XI.

p.s: Ash Crimson looks great as usual.

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Did you see Kim Khapwans and his famous wavy pant legs :shock:

Man my has put on some weight though :P

Maybe SNK can ask Capcom to put Dudley in it 8)

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[QUOTE="DementedDragon"]

Well Kotaku said they called it too, so who do we believe? :P

Anyway, this is great to see and yes it would've been better for Capcom to stick strictly to 2D. It's nice to see SNK back in the game recently, hope they continue to compete with Arc Systems, Sammy and the like. 2009 is so far away though, oh well, there's always KoF XI.

p.s: Ash Crimson looks great as usual.

Blackbond

Did you see Kim Khapwans and his famous wavy pant legs :shock:

Man my has put on some weight though :P

Maybe SNK can ask Capcom to put Dudley in it 8)

Yeah, because in Street Fighter 4, Capcom is totally ignoring the real Street Fighter fans and taking every single Street Fighter III character out... I guess they aren't smart enough to have a look at the tournaments. 3s is more popular than SFII.

Oh well, enough of my rant.. Maybe they will realize and cater to the huge Street Fighter III fanbase.

I think it would have been better if Capcom did Street Fighter 4 the same way SNK is doing this game. The new clip looks great. They still look more like sprites.

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First Street Fighter 4, now KOF12. Both 3D games using artistic shading to retain the 2D look. Sounds like fighters have a potential for a comeback.HuusAsking

KOF XII is using sprites :evil:

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Did you see Kim Khapwans and his famous wavy pant legs :shock: Blackbond

Yeah I saw, I thought it was a strong breeze or something.

Maybe SNK can ask Capcom to put Dudley in it 8)Blackbond

lol, fat chance if they do put him in there, he'd be competing with Vanessa. :P

You better hope they bring Andy back. ^_^

And looks like there's a new boxer in SFIV: Meet Abel

Abel SFIV

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#8 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Did you see Kim Khapwans and his famous wavy pant legs :shock: DementedDragon

Yeah I saw, I thought it was a strong breeze or something.

Maybe SNK can ask Capcom to put Dudley in it 8)Blackbond

lol, fat chance if they do put him in there, he'd be competing with Vanessa. :P

You better hope they bring Andy back. ^_^

And looks like there's a new boxer in SFIV: Meet Abel

Abel SFIV

That's MMA not boxing. There is still hope for Dudley! If not then I shall destroy my Dreamcast.

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God that game looks incredible. I'm still looking forward to Blazblue the most.
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]First Street Fighter 4, now KOF12. Both 3D games using artistic shading to retain the 2D look. Sounds like fighters have a potential for a comeback.Blackbond

KOF XII is using sprites :evil:

Quoted from your 2nd link:

The last non-spinoff entry in the series was KOF XI in 2005, and the upcoming game is a 3D fighter that is shaded to look 2D. Koyama described it as "3D mixed with 2D."The kotaku article

(My emphasis.)

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Do you REALLY want to see Dudly turned into those horrid looking models that seem to plague the entire SFIV game?
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#12 Nickmanx5
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king of fighters xii looks awesome!
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#13 Blackbond
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Do you REALLY want to see Dudly turned into those horrid looking models that seem to plague the entire SFIV game?Verge_6

A playable appearance by Dudley is would bring much class and dignity to the game. Realisitically without Dudley this game will be reduced to Gutter Trash.

I mean Verge he's got a flying coat man....

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#14 Gunraidan
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]First Street Fighter 4, now KOF12. Both 3D games using artistic shading to retain the 2D look. Sounds like fighters have a potential for a comeback.HuusAsking

KOF XII is using sprites :evil:

Quoted from your 2nd link:

The last non-spinoff entry in the series was KOF XI in 2005, and the upcoming game is a 3D fighter that is shaded to look 2D. Koyama described it as "3D mixed with 2D."The kotaku article

(My emphasis.)

Kotauku was just kidding it is in 2D it's confirmed by SNK and the obvious look of the trailer.

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dudley and alex would rock in sfiv

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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Do you REALLY want to see Dudly turned into those horrid looking models that seem to plague the entire SFIV game?Blackbond

A playable appearance by Dudley is would bring much class and dignity to the game. Realisitically without Dudley this game will be reduced to Gutter Trash.

I mean Verge he's got a flying coat man....

I can say there is no possible way Dudley will be in SFIV. Reading translated notes on SFIV from Game Director Ono, he is very keen bringing back the "****c" SF2 feel. He also stated that "The SF3 characters were too distant". Basically saying it was hard to relate to the characters of SF3.

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#17 Blackbond
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dudley and alex would rock in sfiv

Nickmanx5

I can't believe Alex who was the main character of SFIII doesn't get more recognition in Capcom's games. He didn't even make it into CvS2. I would have liked to see Hugo as well. I mean Final Fight is an intergral part of the SF Universe and Capcom and Andore/Hugo fits the bill. At least give me a Cody or Guy.

As for KOF XII. Is this when we will finally see the Shiranui Ninja return?

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#18 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]First Street Fighter 4, now KOF12. Both 3D games using artistic shading to retain the 2D look. Sounds like fighters have a potential for a comeback.Gunraidan

KOF XII is using sprites :evil:

Quoted from your 2nd link:

The last non-spinoff entry in the series was KOF XI in 2005, and the upcoming game is a 3D fighter that is shaded to look 2D. Koyama described it as "3D mixed with 2D."The kotaku article

(My emphasis.)

Kotauku was just kidding it is in 2D it's confirmed by SNK and the obvious look of the trailer.

I normally don't see the trailers because of my NoScript, but I see your point. It's supposed to use the Taito Type X2 arcade architecture (probably PC-based). Well, we'll just have to wait and see. 2D and 3D have their ups and downs, after all.
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Do you REALLY want to see Dudly turned into those horrid looking models that seem to plague the entire SFIV game?Cute_Red_Panda

A playable appearance by Dudley is would bring much class and dignity to the game. Realisitically without Dudley this game will be reduced to Gutter Trash.

I mean Verge he's got a flying coat man....

I can say there is no possible way Dudley will be in SFIV. Reading translated notes on SFIV from Game Director Ono, he is very keen bringing back the "****c" SF2 feel. He also stated that "The SF3 characters were too distant". Basically saying it was hard to relate to the characters of SF3.

WTF @ Too distant. LOL, its a fighting game. Do they honestly think people play Street Fighter for the coming of age story of two friendly rivals set to the back drop of Guile and his international team of heroes trying to thwart the evil M. Bison from world domination? LMAO, I hope they don't think that people seriously care about this stuff.

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#20 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Do you REALLY want to see Dudly turned into those horrid looking models that seem to plague the entire SFIV game?Cute_Red_Panda

A playable appearance by Dudley is would bring much class and dignity to the game. Realisitically without Dudley this game will be reduced to Gutter Trash.

I mean Verge he's got a flying coat man....

I can say there is no possible way Dudley will be in SFIV. Reading translated notes on SFIV from Game Director Ono, he is very keen bringing back the "****c" SF2 feel. He also stated that "The SF3 characters were too distant". Basically saying it was hard to relate to the characters of SF3.

Yeah I remember the quote. But hell I guess that will only leave us with the SFII core cast and some newer characters then. But then again I can't see them not putting in some Alpha or SFIII characters. If they don't (which is seeming likely) it would be crazy.

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Do you REALLY want to see Dudly turned into those horrid looking models that seem to plague the entire SFIV game?Cute_Red_Panda

A playable appearance by Dudley is would bring much class and dignity to the game. Realisitically without Dudley this game will be reduced to Gutter Trash.

I mean Verge he's got a flying coat man....

I can say there is no possible way Dudley will be in SFIV. Reading translated notes on SFIV from Game Director Ono, he is very keen bringing back the "****c" SF2 feel. He also stated that "The SF3 characters were too distant". Basically saying it was hard to relate to the characters of SF3.

Ono will be forced to use SF3 characters since the game takes place between 2 and 3 and there is nothing distant about Dudley. What is he going to do ? Bring back Balrog who s ucks compared to Dudley lol
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#22 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Cute_Red_Panda"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Do you REALLY want to see Dudly turned into those horrid looking models that seem to plague the entire SFIV game?kage_53

A playable appearance by Dudley is would bring much class and dignity to the game. Realisitically without Dudley this game will be reduced to Gutter Trash.

I mean Verge he's got a flying coat man....

I can say there is no possible way Dudley will be in SFIV. Reading translated notes on SFIV from Game Director Ono, he is very keen bringing back the "****c" SF2 feel. He also stated that "The SF3 characters were too distant". Basically saying it was hard to relate to the characters of SF3.

Ono will be forced to use SF3 characters since the game takes place between 2 and 3 and there is nothing distant about Dudley. What is he going to do ? Bring back Balrog who s ucks compared to Dudley lol

This Kage guy has dignity 8)

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#23 Blackbond
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Balrog used to be pretty decent. I mean he looked like a big buff Mike Tyson at first. But then they made him look stupid and short looking. In SFII he literaly towered over everyone but Sagat. Balrog would get KO'd by Dudley in Round 1 anyways

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Ono will be forced to use SF3 characters since the game takes place between 2 and 3 and there is nothing distant about Dudley. What is he going to do ? Bring back Balrog who s ucks compared to Dudley lolkage_53

Not to cause a riot, but Balrog ST >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dudley. Dudley is cool, but Balrog will always be the best 2D boxer. Also, I would rather for Capcom to force him to bring back parrying, then SF3 characters.

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balrog can't take dudley
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[QUOTE="kage_53"] Ono will be forced to use SF3 characters since the game takes place between 2 and 3 and there is nothing distant about Dudley. What is he going to do ? Bring back Balrog who s ucks compared to Dudley lolCute_Red_Panda

Not to cause a riot, but Balrog ST >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dudley. Dudley is cool, but Balrog will always be the best 2D boxer. Also, I would rather for Capcom to force him to bring back parrying, then SF3 characters.

Tell me you did not just say that. Oh you just started a riot lol A one man riot! Balrog better then Dudley? No thank you :P

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#27 Blackbond
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balrog can't take dudleyNickmanx5

To Dudley, Balrog is simply a punching bag that bleeds.

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balrog can't take dudleyNickmanx5

WHAT!? That's like saying an eagle can't take an earthworm.

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[QUOTE="Nickmanx5"]balrog can't take dudleyBlackbond

To Balrog, Dudley is simply a punching bag that bleeds.

fixed. :)

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="Nickmanx5"]balrog can't take dudleyCute_Red_Panda

To Balrog, Dudley is simply a punching bag that bleeds.

fixed. :)

Balrog is too damn predictable, Dudley you don't know what to expect.

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[QUOTE="Cute_Red_Panda"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="Nickmanx5"]balrog can't take dudleyCJL13

To Balrog, Dudley is simply a punching bag that bleeds.

fixed. :)

Balrog is too damn predictable, Dudley you don't know what to expect.

WTH? Balrog is like an enigma trapped in a puzzle. Have you played ST? Balrog is top tier in that game. Power and skills. Dudley is just that... A DUD.

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#32 Nickmanx5
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dudley thinks balrog is gutta trash but terry could take them both

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When Balrog can last through Tea time come call me.
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[QUOTE="CJL13"][QUOTE="Cute_Red_Panda"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="Nickmanx5"]balrog can't take dudleyCute_Red_Panda

To Balrog, Dudley is simply a punching bag that bleeds.

fixed. :)

Balrog is too damn predictable, Dudley you don't know what to expect.

WTH? Balrog is like an enigma trapped in a puzzle. Have you played ST? Balrog is top tier in that game. Power and skills. Dudley is just that... A DUD.

Yeah this is how Dudley dominates

Even Umehara falls before his might.

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#35 Blackbond
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dudley thinks balrog is gutta trash but terry could take them both

Nickmanx5

Classic Terry or MOTW Terry.

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When Balrog can last through Tea time come call me.Blackbond

:lol: good one. We all know that American Boxing > British Boxing.

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classic terry of course! no one can beat his rising tacos!
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#38 Cute_Red_Panda
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Yeah this is how Dudley dominates

Even Umehara falls before his might.

Blackbond

Lucky for you I read Kanji...That isn't Umehara. It reads "Misawa" Anyways, this is about Dudley, not Ken.

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I gotta be honest, I didn't understand a word you just said. What the hell do all these letters stand for?
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#40 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Yeah this is how Dudley dominates

Even Umehara falls before his might.

Cute_Red_Panda

Lucky for you I read Kanji...That isn't Umehara. It reads "Misawa" Anyways, this is about Dudley, not Ken.

No but this would be. I only said he did I didn't link it but here it is

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#41 Ishdul
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SFIV looks really good in motion. People should really stop complaining specifically about the graphics for it.
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Ah, but there is one thing that Dudely does that Balrog could only dream of doing. And that's fighting like a gentleman.8)
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#43 Nickmanx5
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just to keep this on topic does the new kim really look like jae hon from mark of the wolves to anyone else

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Kool knowing that they are coming up with KoF XII...I have KoF XI and that game is wicked fun...
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just to keep this on topic does the new kim really look like jae hon from mark of the wolves to anyone else

Nickmanx5

You mean stylistically? Garou did feature some of the better SNK sprites.

Jae HoonJae Hoon 2Jae Hoon1

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Awesome, nice to see they are sticking to the roots of the series and stay 2D ;)
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#47 Blackbond
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just to keep this on topic does the new kim really look like jae hon from mark of the wolves to anyone else

Nickmanx5

Not really, his pants are caught in a wind tunnel though lol. Looks to be a little bit bulkier as well Not quite taking the juice like Terry did though lol.

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#48 Nickmanx5
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never mind now that i think about it he look like his artwork.

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this is going to be a good year for fighting games :D
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#50 HuusAsking
Member since 2006 • 15270 Posts
SFIV looks really good in motion. People should really stop complaining specifically about the graphics for it. Blaxploitation
That's what I'm noting. Going 3D allows for smoother motion (Capcom's trying to split the difference by their artistic rendering technique).