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#51 dc337
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I already lost my interest after watching the gametrailers preview. Sure the cinematics look great but where is the gameplay? The story looks like a snoozer. With so many great games coming out I could really care less if it bombs. I don't have time to play all these games anyways.
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#52 Sollet
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FF13 is really a LOVE or HATE it game... Much like FF8.
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#53 Articuno76
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I already lost my interest after watching the gametrailers preview. Sure the cinematics look great but where is the gameplay? The story looks like a snoozer. With so many great games coming out I could really care less if it bombs. I don't have time to play all these games anyways. dc337
I assure you. Almost the entire time spent with the game is actually playing it. You might be shocked as to how few cutscenes there are.
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#54 BattleTurtles
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I'm not going to lie, Asian media comes across to me as immature, stubborn, and unprofessional. Just because they don't like the storyline, they give it the lowest score possible? Come on now... :roll:KHAndAnime
I thought the storyine got the 9. If not, what did?
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#55 Urworstnhtmare
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I'm not going to lie, Asian media comes across to me as immature, stubborn, and unprofessional. Just because they don't like the storyline, they give it the lowest score possible? Come on now... :roll:KHAndAnime

Most of the worlds media is immature, stubborn, and unprofessional.

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#56 ForsakenWicked
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I hope a demo comes out or I'll have to rent it first to see if its really worth it.
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#57 SaltyMeatballs
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Well the score looks to be an average (20/5), so we should ignore it. From what I've read and seen, the bad points stand out too much.
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#58 Bubble_Man
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I'm not going to lie, Asian media comes across to me as immature, stubborn, and unprofessional. Just because they don't like the storyline, they give it the lowest score possible? Come on now... :roll:KHAndAnime

But the main reason given was because the game was too linear...

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#59 HAZE-Unit
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the game is the best RPG I've played this generation, let alone JRPG. If unoriginal, glitchy and ugly stuff like Dragon Age could score a 9.0, i don't see something as smooth, seamless and beautiful as FFXIII that couldn't score the same or even higher.

All this negative stuff is complete and utter nonsense from fanboys or people who just want to be different just to be cool or whatever.

FFXIII is going to get AAA without any bit of doubt about it, quote me on this,FFXIII gonna be the first JRPG that will score AAA.

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#60 Urworstnhtmare
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the game is the best RPG I've played this generation, let alone JRPG. If unoriginal, glitchy and ugly stuff like Dragon Age could score a 9.0, i don't see something as smooth, seamless and beautiful as FFXIII that couldn't score the same or even higher.

All this negative stuff is complete and utter nonsense from fanboys or people who just want to be different just to be cool or whatever.

FFXIII is going to get AAA without any bit of doubt about it, quote me on this,FFXIII gonna be the first JRPG that will score AAA.

HAZE-Unit

Some people find it cool to hate something that is popular for a good reason. The Dark Knight was a good example

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#61 fenwickhotmail
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this game is easily 11/10.

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So you've played it?
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#62 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="jwsoul"] Lets be honest here somthing aint right with these reiviewers. For a start Sound 7? Lets look at that WUT? The Music Score is available now to listen to and its epic and from what i have heard of the sound effects they are excellent....

Some people have different opinions on soundtracks. For instance, I can't believe that all you Final Fantasy fans call Uematsu the greatest composer ever when Akira Yamaoka blows him out of the water. *Shrugs*
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#63 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]I'm not going to lie, Asian media comes across to me as immature, stubborn, and unprofessional. Just because they don't like the storyline, they give it the lowest score possible? Come on now... :roll:Bubble_Man

But the main reason given was because the game was too linear...

Most of the games in the industry are linear and yet nobody complains, a rail shooter like Dead Space scored AA on the WII, a freaking rail shooter, can you believe that?

let alone a beast of a game like FFXIII, AAA guaranteed.

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#64 jg4xchamp
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I honestly think a lot of the FF 13 complaints are blown out of proportion. Then again I like very few JRPGs.
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#65 fenwickhotmail
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Bubble_Man"]

I'm not going to lie, Asian media comes across to me as immature, stubborn, and unprofessional. Just because they don't like the storyline, they give it the lowest score possible? Come on now... :roll:KHAndAnime

But the main reason given was because the game was too linear...

Most of the games in the industry are linear and yet nobody complains, a rail shooter like Dead Space scored AA on the WII, a freaking rail shooter, can you believe that?

let alone a beast of a game like FFXIII, AAA guaranteed.

Just because games are linear doesnt necessarily mean they're bad. Super Mario World for example. However, RPG's are generally thought to have an element of exploration. So if it is indeed linear, it is not a good thing.
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#66 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Bubble_Man"]

But the main reason given was because the game was too linear...

fenwickhotmail

Most of the games in the industry are linear and yet nobody complains, a rail shooter like Dead Space scored AA on the WII, a freaking rail shooter, can you believe that?

let alone a beast of a game like FFXIII, AAA guaranteed.

Just because games are linear doesnt necessarily mean they're bad. Super Mario World for example. However, RPG's are generally thought to have an element of exploration. So if it is indeed linear, it is not a good thing.

The game opens up in the later portions, doesn't mean it is boring in the beginning at all.

FF series is constant from the first FF I've played to FFXIII, all of the games I've played they were always linear in the beginning then later in the game they become explorable, it was always like this, the only exception was FFXII.

As for RPGs in general there are alot of linear RPGs too and I don't remember any reviewer who complained of linearity of RPGs at all ( any legit reviewer ).

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#67 lundy86_4
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Hmmm, i'll wait to get my hands on it.

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#68 AnnoyedDragon
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This isn't the first time I have seen a negative response to the game, Amazon has a very negative buyer review spread.

With so many sources criticising the game, both professional reviewers and the general public, it makes you think.

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#69 Yandere
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FFXIII is going to get AAA without any bit of doubt about it, quote me on this,FFXIII gonna be the first JRPG that will score AAA.

HAZE-Unit

Chrono Cross.

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#70 Vandalvideo
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This isn't the first time I have seen a negative response to the game, Amazon has a very negative buyer review spread.

With so many sources criticising the game, both professional reviewers and the general public, it makes you think.

AnnoyedDragon
Unless you're a Final Fantasy fanboy who thinks all this is just one massive conspiracy on the part of trolls world wide.
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#71 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

FFXIII is going to get AAA without any bit of doubt about it, quote me on this,FFXIII gonna be the first JRPG that will score AAA.

Yandere

Chrono Cross.

"this gen" :P

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#72 Yandere
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

FFXIII is going to get AAA without any bit of doubt about it, quote me on this,FFXIII gonna be the first JRPG that will score AAA.

HAZE-Unit

Chrono Cross.

"this gen" :P

Wouldn't Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story count?

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#73 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

Chrono Cross.

Yandere

"this gen" :P

Wouldn't Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story count?

Nitpicking haha, Ok, I'll rephrase, it's gonna be the first HD console JRPG this gen that will score AAA from GS :P

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#74 jwsoul
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[QUOTE="jwsoul"]

Chill out mate. At the end of the day the game has been reviewed highly in a lot of places and by a lot of people so which one is true is it good or bad. Your just looking at all the negativity when in fact there is loads of positivity around the title so yeah your wrong....

This isn't the first time I have seen a negative response to the game, Amazon has a very negative buyer review spread.

With so many sources criticising the game, both professional reviewers and the general public, it makes you think.

Vandalvideo

Unless you're a Final Fantasy fanboy who thinks all this is just one massive conspiracy on the part of trolls world wide.

Chill out mate. At the end of the day the game has been reviewed highly in a lot of places and by a lot of people so which one is true is it good or bad? Your just looking at the negativety when in fact there is loads of positivity around the title so yeah your wrong....

Next time you take a pot shot how about you try and disguise it better.

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#75 DivineSword  Moderator
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I don't know if this game is destined to be a complete failure since I having gotten the chance to try out this game yet, which means my opinion is the most important for me so I won't get too discouraged by all these low score. I really hope I can enjoyed this game despite those bad score.

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#76 AnnoyedDragon
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snipjwsoul

So basically you are saying to ignore feedback like this, despite it coming from people who have played the game?

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#77 jwsoul
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[QUOTE="jwsoul"]snipAnnoyedDragon

So basically you are saying to ignore feedback like this, despite it coming from people who have played the game?

Uh no what lol im saying there are 2 TYPES of feedback so stop trying to twist my words thanx very much and next time read what i wrote correctly.

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#78 oajlu
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hong kong. lol

hk is just a little more trustworthy than nigeria...i wouldnt bother to use their review.

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#79 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

This isn't the first time I have seen a negative response to the game, Amazon has a very negative buyer review spread.

With so many sources criticising the game, both professional reviewers and the general public, it makes you think.

Vandalvideo

Unless you're a Final Fantasy fanboy who thinks all this is just one massive conspiracy on the part of trolls world wide.

Cmon now, so amazon users or/and unknown flamebait Chinese magazine respectable now?

I don't know about you but when I see a score of 4/10 for a game like FFXIII ( the main FF game ), its just utter bs.

These are two quotes from the review.

"A button mashing puzzle game with no real strategy or RPG elements and a plethora of annoying features, game as a whole is little more than a digital novel of sorts."


"For such a game to approach 2 million copies sold must be due solely to the strength of the Final Fantasy brand".

Flamebait much? SW material much?

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#80 AnnoyedDragon
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Uh no what lol im saying there are 2 TYPES of feedback so stop trying to twist my words thanx very much and next time read what i wrote correctly.

jwsoul

Yeah two types of feedback, the type you accept and the type you ignore. You said stuff like this is negated by the amount of positive review.

Amazon is a popular site, surely the game should be getting an overall positive review to reflect what you are claiming? Not a fairly even spread of opinion, some liking it and some hating it.

As with HAZE-Unit, some people seem intent on criticising anyone who points out opinion of the game isn't positive overall. It's not wrong for me to recognise response to the game is mixed, it is wrong for you to discard any opinion that doesn't fit what you want.

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#81 teh_shogun
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what FF hasn't been linear? only one that wasn't linear was FF12 and that was the weakest FF.

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#82 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="jwsoul"]

Uh no what lol im saying there are 2 TYPES of feedback so stop trying to twist my words thanx very much and next time read what i wrote correctly.

AnnoyedDragon

Yeah two types of feedback, the type you accept and the type you ignore. You said stuff like this is negated by the amount of positive review.

Amazon is a popular site, surely the game should be getting an overall positive review to reflect what you are claiming? Not a fairly even spread of opinion, some liking it and some hating it.

As with HAZE-Unit, some people seem intent on criticising anyone who points out opinion of the game isn't positive overall. It's not wrong for me to recognise response to the game is mixed, it is wrong for you to discard any opinion that doesn't fit what you want.

Sorry but Im not falling for some unknown amazon users who

  1. might or might not have the game.
  2. might be fanboys or haters.

I mean just look at gears 2 and Resistance 2 users scores on Metacritic and see how flawed user scores are.

As for the Chinese mag, it is from an unknown mag and the review is full of flamebait to attract users and they sure did a good job with it.

a 4 out of 10 for the main FF game, are you freaking serious?

I say lets wait for the real reviews from the real pros in this industry.

I say lets wait until you play the game and judge for yourself.

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#83 Vandalvideo
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Cmon now, so amazon users or/and unknown flamebait Chinese magazine respectable now? I don't know about you but when I see a score of 4/10 for a game like FFXIII ( the main FF game ), its just utter bs. These are two quotes from the review. "A button mashing puzzle game with no real strategy or RPG elements and a plethora of annoying features, game as a whole is little more than a digital novel of sorts." "For such a game to approach 2 million copies sold must be due solely to the strength of the Final Fantasy brand".Flamebait much? SW material muchHAZE-Unit
It is mighty sophist of you to pretend that you have a monoply on opinions. Who are you to decide whose opinions are respectable?
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#84 Vandalvideo
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Chill out mate. At the end of the day the game has been reviewed highly in a lot of places and by a lot of people so which one is true is it good or bad? Your just looking at the negativety when in fact there is loads of positivity around the title so yeah your wrong....Next time you take a pot shot how about you try and disguise it better.jwsoul
Where in my post do I claim that there aren't good reviews out there for the game? I'm merely criticizing people for ignoring the negative.
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#85 AnnoyedDragon
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Sorry but Im not falling for some unknown amazon users who

  1. might or might not have the game.
  2. might be fanboys or haters.

I mean just look at gears 2 and Resistance 2 users scores on Metacritic and see how flawed user scores are.

As for the Chinese mag, it is from an unknown mag and the review is full of flamebait to attract users and they sure did a good job with it.

a 4 out of 10 for the main FF game, are you freaking serious?

I say lets wait for the real reviews from the real pros in this industry.

I say lets wait until you play the game and judge for yourself.

HAZE-Unit

If I were to completely discard all the positive reviews and accept only the bad ones, based on your own standard of 'evidence', you wouldn't be able to prove me wrong. You have chosen only to recognise the reviews that reinforce your existing expectations, rejecting everything else as being questionable on the basis of 'because'.

You have given no criteria for judging whether a source is valid, only whether you have chosen to recognise it or not.

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I honestly think a lot of the FF 13 complaints are blown out of proportion. Then again I like very few JRPGs. jg4xchamp
I agree. And we're going to have to change that last bit :P
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#87 Zero5000X
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Hasn't this game been n development for 5 years and usig Sqaures top team? I always expected versus to be better anyway.
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#88 jherbach1222
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I'm not going to lie, Asian media comes across to me as immature, stubborn, and unprofessional. Just because they don't like the storyline, they give it the lowest score possible? Come on now... :roll:KHAndAnime

Did you play the game? and how the hell would you know they didnt like the story and gave it a 4 automaticly? maybe the game isnt all that you shouldnt just assume that just because you perceive the asain media to come across "unprofessional"

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#89 Drakes_Fortune
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Hasn't this game been n development for 5 years and usig Sqaures top team? I always expected versus to be better anyway. Zero5000X
No, the development time was 2 years. And Versus team is being made by the same guys that worked on 13, they just moved to Versus team now that they finished 13.
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I'm not going to lie, Asian media comes across to me as immature, stubborn, and unprofessional. Just because they don't like the storyline, they give it the lowest score possible? Come on now... :roll:KHAndAnime

Are you joking? Storyline to most RPG gamers is on the highest priority. If the storyline blows, that takes 40% off the score IMO.

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#91 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]Cmon now, so amazon users or/and unknown flamebait Chinese magazine respectable now? I don't know about you but when I see a score of 4/10 for a game like FFXIII ( the main FF game ), its just utter bs. These are two quotes from the review. "A button mashing puzzle game with no real strategy or RPG elements and a plethora of annoying features, game as a whole is little more than a digital novel of sorts." "For such a game to approach 2 million copies sold must be due solely to the strength of the Final Fantasy brand".Flamebait much? SW material muchVandalvideo
It is mighty sophist of you to pretend that you have a monoply on opinions. Who are you to decide whose opinions are respectable?

When a highly anticipated budgeted project like FFXIII scores like a trashy game called Rogue Warrior I will instantly question the source, below average, are you kidding me ?

"biggest joke of 09" thats another hater attitude, Im sure there are bigger jokes in 09 than FFXIII, as I said, rogue warrior anyone?

"I had heard the opinion that "It's amazing once you get to Chapter 11," but why should you spend 20 or 30 hours on a game to get to the only enjoyable part? Just how do they intend to make me play this? Do they think I'm some kind of masochist?

twist of words just to help his agenda for the next pot shot at the game, people are saying the game will be more open and nobody said anything about the quality of the open areas, replace "it's amazing" with "it opens up".

This is what the reviewer intended to conclude with his earlier comment, another flamebait comment.

You would say Im taking it out of context or about the conspiracy thoughts or something like that but Im seeing what this source is doing crystal clear.

I will dismiss such a thing instantly.

As for Amazon, as I said, look at metacritic user reviews, flawed as ****.

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#92 destro123
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Lol. I bet Microsoft is second thinking getting this game on the 360. If its actually that bad then I know I would.

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#93 Chutebox
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Their comments besides the scores are(what the link translated was somewhat off btw):

Content: 2.0

Story is exaggerated into the point of being a pile of mess.

System: 1.0

Combat system is way too boring, you call this an RPG?

Graphics : 9.0

The only thing that is satisfactory.

Sound: 7.0

*can't read the last few words clearly* It says 5 of those points are ____.

Replay Value: 1.0

100 hours? even 8 hours is too much.

Final Score: 4.0

You think its bad enough? It'll get worse.

^that was my own translation, but literally what I read. :(

PSdual_wielder
What a stupid review lol.
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#94 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]I honestly think a lot of the FF 13 complaints are blown out of proportion. Then again I like very few JRPGs. SilverChimera
I agree. And we're going to have to change that last bit :P

I like ones that I find to be good. Persona Final Fantasy(well except 11 and 12, didn't like those 2 and everything before FF 6, never played the first 5. So i never bothered getting into them since everyone says 6 is vastly superior to those 5). The Tales series is inconsistent, but I like it. Suikoden, Legend of Dragoon, DragonQuest, Skies of Arcadia, Valkyria Chronicles, Mother series, Fire emblem series....and maybe a few more if I remember. Like the chrono series. In general though there are certain aspects of the genre i don't like.
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#95 HAZE-Unit
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Sorry but Im not falling for some unknown amazon users who

  1. might or might not have the game.
  2. might be fanboys or haters.

I mean just look at gears 2 and Resistance 2 users scores on Metacritic and see how flawed user scores are.

As for the Chinese mag, it is from an unknown mag and the review is full of flamebait to attract users and they sure did a good job with it.

a 4 out of 10 for the main FF game, are you freaking serious?

I say lets wait for the real reviews from the real pros in this industry.

I say lets wait until you play the game and judge for yourself.

AnnoyedDragon

If I were to completely discard all the positive reviews and accept only the bad ones, based on your own standard of 'evidence', you wouldn't be able to prove me wrong. You have chosen only to recognise the reviews that reinforce your existing expectations, rejecting everything else as being questionable on the basis of 'because'.

You have given no criteria for judging whether a source is valid, only whether you have chosen to recognise it or not.

No way Im dismissing the negative reviews from the likes of Eurogamer, GS, GT, IGN....etc here is your answer.

There is nothing wrong for anybody to dismiss review sources they don't like or sources they see as questionable and recommend others to do the same.

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[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]Hasn't this game been n development for 5 years and usig Sqaures top team? I always expected versus to be better anyway. Drakes_Fortune
No, the development time was 2 years. And Versus team is being made by the same guys that worked on 13, they just moved to Versus team now that they finished 13.

well it was first unveiled even before the PS3 came out.
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No way Im dismissing the negative reviews from the likes of Eurogamer, GS, GT, IGN....etc here is your answer.

There is nothing wrong for anybody to dismiss review sources they don't like or sources they see as questionable and recommend others to do the same.

HAZE-Unit

So you only accept feedback from English speaking sites?

The language of the source is irrelevant to me provided that the source is reliable, personally I'd take actual user feedback more seriously than any review site. I remember when Oblivion launched and every site pushed it as being the God of RPGs, even though it was a terrible sequel to Morrowind and targeted a very different audience.

Review sites can be biased, they can be paid off or encouraged to give a higher rating. Although us consumers can be equally as biased, look at our opinion on the macro scale; and you start to get a decent impression. Japan is the home of Final Fantasy, for it to get mixed user reviews says allot to me.

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I like ones that I find to be good. Persona Final Fantasy(well except 11 and 12, didn't like those 2 and everything before FF 6, never played the first 5. So i never bothered getting into them since everyone says 6 is vastly superior to those 5). The Tales series is inconsistent, but I like it. Suikoden, Legend of Dragoon, DragonQuest, Skies of Arcadia, Valkyria Chronicles, Mother series, Fire emblem series....and maybe a few more if I remember. Like the chrono series. In general though there are certain aspects of the genre i don't like. jg4xchamp

Oh. I feel the same way to a certain extent. I don't like the Tales series that much. I wouldn't classify Fire Emblem as a JRPG, but I still like it.

Have you played Vagrant Story? You might like it if you like action RPGs.

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Get ready for a flop people, I can smell it.
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]Cmon now, so amazon users or/and unknown flamebait Chinese magazine respectable now? I don't know about you but when I see a score of 4/10 for a game like FFXIII ( the main FF game ), its just utter bs. These are two quotes from the review. "A button mashing puzzle game with no real strategy or RPG elements and a plethora of annoying features, game as a whole is little more than a digital novel of sorts." "For such a game to approach 2 million copies sold must be due solely to the strength of the Final Fantasy brand".Flamebait much? SW material muchHAZE-Unit

It is mighty sophist of you to pretend that you have a monoply on opinions. Who are you to decide whose opinions are respectable?

When a highly anticipated budgeted project like FFXIII scores like a trashy game called Rogue Warrior I will instantly question the source, below average, are you kidding me ?

"biggest joke of 09" thats another hater attitude, Im sure there are bigger jokes in 09 than FFXIII, as I said, rogue warrior anyone?

"I had heard the opinion that "It's amazing once you get to Chapter 11," but why should you spend 20 or 30 hours on a game to get to the only enjoyable part? Just how do they intend to make me play this? Do they think I'm some kind of masochist?

twist of words just to help his agenda for the next pot shot at the game, people are saying the game will be more open and nobody said anything about the quality of the open areas, replace "it's amazing" with "it opens up".

This is what the reviewer intended to conclude with his earlier comment, another flamebait comment.

You would say Im taking it out of context or about the conspiracy thoughts or something like that but Im seeing what this source is doing crystal clear.

I will dismiss such a thing instantly.

As for Amazon, as I said, look at metacritic user reviews, flawed as ****.

Merely because you disagree with their opinions and find them contrary to your own does not mean they are wrong. Merely because you think that the biggest joke of 2009 is Rogue Warrior does not mean it necessarily is. You're treating your own opinion like a fact. I hate to break it to you, but different people have different opinions. Why should I listen to yours any more than this Chinese website or the "trolls"? I have no more reason to listen to you than I do to doubt these sources.