This is ridiculous! If a product is improved, it isnt self-ownage nor cheating!

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#1 -JayWong-
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This is a new low for SW, well, not necessarily new, since everyone bags on the Nintendo fanboys when their DS or GBAs get upgraded.  Supposedly, its milking...or cheating its customers who already bought it.

Would you rather it NOT be upgraded?  Simply because you already bought it? If Nintendo didnt upgrade its DS, Sony fanboys will say it is ugly...when upgraded...they make fun of the fans because its milking.

The 360 NEEDS a bigger harddrive, the HDMI is a plus, and so is the black color.  You could argue that "they should've added those things in the first place!"  Blah blah blah, at least its being changed at all!  Whether you like it or not, it'll be a better product overall.

Get over it, stop grasping for ownage. :roll:
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#2 lawlessx
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dude..the picture of the black 360 came out before the 360 did..its fake
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#3 -JayWong-
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Reguardless, peopel need to stop being so negative when it coems to a product being upgraded.  Thats the point.  Fake or not.
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#4 Spartan070
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The real funny thing is people are under, to steal a word from Vandal, a "misconception" that the Zepher is replacing the others, it is only being added to the line-up.
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#5 justforlotr2004
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dude..the picture of the black 360 came out before the 360 did..its fakelawlessx


The Black Xbox 360's came out before the Xbox 360 did.  They are Dev kits.
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U  N  C  O  N  F  I  R  M  E  D  .  .  .  .
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#7 Hammerofjustice
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dude..the picture of the black 360 came out before the 360 did..its fakelawlessx
Dreams-Vision can confirm its not a fake and M$ is releasing a new xbox 360 model code named zephyr this year.
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#8 ps3-nikita
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Xbox 360 was only white, because of the Japanese market.
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U N C O N F I R M E D . . . .ColoradoKindBud



N O T   T H E  P O I N T
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]dude..the picture of the black 360 came out before the 360 did..its fakeHammerofjustice
Dreams-Vision can confirm its not a fake and M$ is releasing a new xbox 360 model code named zephyr this year.

MS is going to offer this Zephyr model, its commonsense
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#11 Basinboy
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Just like how the PSX and the Sega 32X weren't self-ownage.  Wait a minute...
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I dont care at all about it. I prefer a white one, HDMI cables dont make a big difference, and i havent even used my 20 GB. At the begginning i got down to 10GB- ive never dropped below (game saves dont take any space and i only keep demos that are really fun and replayable for a while)
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[QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"]U N C O N F I R M E D . . . .-JayWong-



N O T   T H E  P O I N T

It's totally the point.  You created the thread to tell people to stop claiming ownage or milkage over the new 360 when there is no new 360. 

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#14 swaginator
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dude..the picture of the black 360 came out before the 360 did..its fakelawlessx
The picture is... It's the only picture of a black xbox 360 that i know of. Now we all know that's fake, but the actual rumor could be real.
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#15 swaginator
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Just like how the PSX and the Sega 32X weren't self-ownage.  Wait a minute...Basinboy
Or the slimline ps2 or ds lite. Oh wait.
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#16 FrenziedRaldo24
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It screws over early-adpoters.

Youre going to make a system, the big three need to get it right the first time.

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[QUOTE="Basinboy"]Just like how the PSX and the Sega 32X weren't self-ownage. Wait a minute...swaginator
Or the slimline ps2 or ds lite. Oh wait.

slim ps2 and ds lite didn't add any new features. owned
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[QUOTE="Basinboy"]Just like how the PSX and the Sega 32X weren't self-ownage.  Wait a minute...swaginator
Or the slimline ps2 or ds lite. Oh wait.

But they actually replaced the older models, the Premium and Core models will still be made.
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[QUOTE="-JayWong-"][QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"]U N C O N F I R M E D . . . .ColoradoKindBud




N O T   T H E  P O I N T

It's totally the point.  You created the thread to tell people to stop claiming ownage or milkage over the new 360 when there is no new 360. 

He's making a what if thread. If this does come to pass it shouldn't be considered ownage because it's just a general update. Like cars, some cars are the same from year too year, but there are always new features added do you see people complain about not having the features the news ones have?
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[QUOTE="-JayWong-"][QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"]U N C O N F I R M E D . . . .ColoradoKindBud




N O T T H E P O I N T

It's totally the point. You created the thread to tell people to stop claiming ownage or milkage over the new 360 when there is no new 360.



Read it again, or go back to school.  The thread was brought about by recent threads about "MS making a mistak" about the release of an upgraded model...  whether ot nbot its confirmed isnt the point.  If you didnt notice, I also mentioend people doing the same thing to Nintendo when the Lite was announced.

Its that people see an upgrade as ownage or cheating consumers.  THATS the point.
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[QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="Basinboy"]Just like how the PSX and the Sega 32X weren't self-ownage. Wait a minute...Hammerofjustice
Or the slimline ps2 or ds lite. Oh wait.

slim ps2 and ds lite didn't add any new features. owned

Yeah slimline ps2 just cut them out.
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#22 Hammerofjustice
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[QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"]

[QUOTE="-JayWong-"][QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"]U N C O N F I R M E D . . . .swaginator




N O T T H E P O I N T

It's totally the point. You created the thread to tell people to stop claiming ownage or milkage over the new 360 when there is no new 360.

He's making a what if thread. If this does come to pass it shouldn't be considered ownage because it's just a general update. Like cars, some cars are the same from year too year, but there are always new features added do you see people complain about not having the features the news ones have?

Consoles are not cars. /thread
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It screws over early-adpoters.

Youre going to make a system, the big three need to get it right the first time.

FrenziedRaldo24
I would've still gotten a Premium, I don't have an HDTV and I use my PC for trailers and such.
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[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="Basinboy"]Just like how the PSX and the Sega 32X weren't self-ownage. Wait a minute...swaginator
Or the slimline ps2 or ds lite. Oh wait.

slim ps2 and ds lite didn't add any new features. owned

Yeah slimline ps2 just cut them out.

like what?
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[QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="Basinboy"]Just like how the PSX and the Sega 32X weren't self-ownage. Wait a minute...Hammerofjustice
Or the slimline ps2 or ds lite. Oh wait.

slim ps2 and ds lite didn't add any new features. owned

Yeah slimline ps2 just cut them out.

like what?

harddrive support
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#26 swaginator
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[QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"]

[QUOTE="-JayWong-"][QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"]U N C O N F I R M E D . . . .Hammerofjustice




N O T T H E P O I N T

It's totally the point. You created the thread to tell people to stop claiming ownage or milkage over the new 360 when there is no new 360.

He's making a what if thread. If this does come to pass it shouldn't be considered ownage because it's just a general update. Like cars, some cars are the same from year too year, but there are always new features added do you see people complain about not having the features the news ones have?

Consoles are not cars. /thread

I know, it was an analogy. Did you eat paint chips as child?
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#27 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="Basinboy"]Just like how the PSX and the Sega 32X weren't self-ownage. Wait a minute...Hammerofjustice
Or the slimline ps2 or ds lite. Oh wait.

slim ps2 and ds lite didn't add any new features. owned

Yeah slimline ps2 just cut them out.

like what?

hard drive support
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#28 -JayWong-
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It screws over early-adpoters.

Youre going to make a system, the big three need to get it right the first time.

FrenziedRaldo24


True, but if a company can swallow their own balls and improve the mistakes that have already been made, than all the complaining worked.  Our voice, as consumers, have been heard.  How is that ever a bad thing?

To say, "they should have gotten it right the first time" is understandable, but is counter productive when they are rumored to improve those things already...

Its like the PS3 bashing, if Sony comes out and improves those things, hey, im a happy camper..if not, more bashing please.
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[QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"]

[QUOTE="-JayWong-"][QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"]U N C O N F I R M E D . . . .Hammerofjustice




N O T T H E P O I N T

It's totally the point. You created the thread to tell people to stop claiming ownage or milkage over the new 360 when there is no new 360.

He's making a what if thread. If this does come to pass it shouldn't be considered ownage because it's just a general update. Like cars, some cars are the same from year too year, but there are always new features added do you see people complain about not having the features the news ones have?

Consoles are not cars. /thread

dude did you even read his post?
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#30 rockydog1111
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You are comparing a 120 Gameboy to a $399 console. I figured it would be year 4 before a revised system. Not before year 2. If true MS needs to admit it so people who are about to buy one, know there is another option coming. If I had've known they would do this, I wouldnt have bought one at launch.
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#31 Hammerofjustice
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[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"]

[QUOTE="-JayWong-"][QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"]U N C O N F I R M E D . . . .lawlessx




N O T T H E P O I N T

It's totally the point. You created the thread to tell people to stop claiming ownage or milkage over the new 360 when there is no new 360.

He's making a what if thread. If this does come to pass it shouldn't be considered ownage because it's just a general update. Like cars, some cars are the same from year too year, but there are always new features added do you see people complain about not having the features the news ones have?

Consoles are not cars. /thread

dude did you even read his thread?

no I was busy playing ogame :lol:
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You are comparing a 120 Gameboy to a $399 console. I figured it would be year 4 before a revised system. Not before year 2. If true MS needs to admit it so people who are about to buy one, know there is another option coming. If I had've known they would do this, I wouldnt have bought one at launch. rockydog1111


Should've, could've, would've..who cares...why bash if its going to be improved (rumored..for the nitpicky word pickers out there).  DS Lite was announced 6 months - 1 year after the original's release. 

Like some dude already said, it isnt confirmed, if it was, MS would announce it, and even then would sitll have a coupel of months before release.

Whether it be a $120 GBA or a $399 console, money is money and an improved product is an improved product.
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Theres nothing really wrong with releasing new models but the new 360 is making some 360 owners feel liek they've been kicked in the nuts by MS.  It still plays the same games and all that but for people like me certain features do matter for consoles and handheld which is why I didn't buy a 360 right off the bat, I mean my $130 DS Lite has Wifi support but a $300 - $400 360 requires an add-on for it? To me thats BS.
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[QUOTE="rockydog1111"]You are comparing a 120 Gameboy to a $399 console. I figured it would be year 4 before a revised system. Not before year 2. If true MS needs to admit it so people who are about to buy one, know there is another option coming. If I had've known they would do this, I wouldnt have bought one at launch. -JayWong-


Should've, could've, would've..who cares...why bash if its going to be improved (rumored..for the nitpicky word pickers out there). DS Lite was announced 6 months - 1 year after the original's release.

Like some dude already said, it isnt confirmed, if it was, MS would announce it, and even then would sitll have a coupel of months before release.

Whether it be a $120 GBA or a $399 console, money is money and an improved product is an improved product.

Whoever bought one at launch is being cheated out of the new features such as HDMI output.
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[QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="Basinboy"]Just like how the PSX and the Sega 32X weren't self-ownage. Wait a minute...Hammerofjustice
Or the slimline ps2 or ds lite. Oh wait.

slim ps2 and ds lite didn't add any new features. owned



Actually if I remember correctly the slimline PS2 added the online adapter, something that everyone else HAD to buy to play online. 

Anyway, I really don't care about this new 360, since the one I have now works fine and still plays all the awesome games.  The hard drive has plenty of space...if I really want more room all I have to do is delete a few demos and videos (that I can download again if I really want them).  HDMI?  I have a 1080p TV, but I could really care less.  It looks perfectly fine at 720p.
 

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Theres nothing really wrong with releasing new models but the new 360 is making some 360 owners feel liek they've been kicked in the nuts by MS. It still plays the same games and all that but for people like me certain features do matter for consoles and handheld which is why I didn't buy a 360 right off the bat, I mean my $130 DS Lite has Wifi support but a $300 - $400 360 requires an add-on for it? To me thats BS.
Tiefster


Finally, a good point...and for the most part, I agree...
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#37 swaginator
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Theres nothing really wrong with releasing new models but the new 360 is making some 360 owners feel liek they've been kicked in the nuts by MS.  It still plays the same games and all that but for people like me certain features do matter for consoles and handheld which is why I didn't buy a 360 right off the bat, I mean my $130 DS Lite has Wifi support but a $300 - $400 360 requires an add-on for it? To me thats BS.
Tiefster
But the fact that it comes with a mic, hd cables, coax cable, and a wireless controller must suck too huh?
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[QUOTE="-JayWong-"][QUOTE="rockydog1111"]You are comparing a 120 Gameboy to a $399 console. I figured it would be year 4 before a revised system. Not before year 2. If true MS needs to admit it so people who are about to buy one, know there is another option coming. If I had've known they would do this, I wouldnt have bought one at launch. Hammerofjustice


Should've, could've, would've..who cares...why bash if its going to be improved (rumored..for the nitpicky word pickers out there). DS Lite was announced 6 months - 1 year after the original's release.

Like some dude already said, it isnt confirmed, if it was, MS would announce it, and even then would sitll have a coupel of months before release.

Whether it be a $120 GBA or a $399 console, money is money and an improved product is an improved product.

Whoever bought one at launch is being cheated out of the new features such as HDMI output.



No one is being cheated...MS is addressing the bashes that people like you give them...ocne they improve it, now they're an even worst company for "cheating its early adopters."

Please. You sound like a whiny kid, who's girlfriend you just dumped gave out to the new guy shes dating and not you. :roll:
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[QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="Basinboy"]Just like how the PSX and the Sega 32X weren't self-ownage. Wait a minute...Hammerofjustice
Or the slimline ps2 or ds lite. Oh wait.

slim ps2 and ds lite didn't add any new features. owned

Didn't PS2 add ethernet on later models?

Anyone who owns an original DS can say the DS Lite was vastly superior in the visual department because of screen brightness.  The original DS is basically unplayable once you have a DSlite.

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[QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="Basinboy"]Just like how the PSX and the Sega 32X weren't self-ownage. Wait a minute...Hammerofjustice
Or the slimline ps2 or ds lite. Oh wait.

slim ps2 and ds lite didn't add any new features. owned

The slimline built in the network adapter.
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[QUOTE="-JayWong-"][QUOTE="rockydog1111"]You are comparing a 120 Gameboy to a $399 console. I figured it would be year 4 before a revised system. Not before year 2. If true MS needs to admit it so people who are about to buy one, know there is another option coming. If I had've known they would do this, I wouldnt have bought one at launch. Hammerofjustice


Should've, could've, would've..who cares...why bash if its going to be improved (rumored..for the nitpicky word pickers out there). DS Lite was announced 6 months - 1 year after the original's release.

Like some dude already said, it isnt confirmed, if it was, MS would announce it, and even then would sitll have a coupel of months before release.

Whether it be a $120 GBA or a $399 console, money is money and an improved product is an improved product.

Whoever bought one at launch is being cheated out of the new features such as HDMI output.

HDMI is only important if the only way you can see HD is through HDMI, which is usually not the case (and in any event, if you were restricted as such, you wouldn't have gotten the 360). HD (even 1080p) is completely possible on both component and VGA output.
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#42 Hammerofjustice
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[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="-JayWong-"][QUOTE="rockydog1111"]You are comparing a 120 Gameboy to a $399 console. I figured it would be year 4 before a revised system. Not before year 2. If true MS needs to admit it so people who are about to buy one, know there is another option coming. If I had've known they would do this, I wouldnt have bought one at launch. -JayWong-


Should've, could've, would've..who cares...why bash if its going to be improved (rumored..for the nitpicky word pickers out there). DS Lite was announced 6 months - 1 year after the original's release.

Like some dude already said, it isnt confirmed, if it was, MS would announce it, and even then would sitll have a coupel of months before release.

Whether it be a $120 GBA or a $399 console, money is money and an improved product is an improved product.

Whoever bought one at launch is being cheated out of the new features such as HDMI output.



No one is being cheated...MS is addressing the bashes that people like you give them...ocne they improve it, now they're an even worst company for "cheating its early adopters."

Please. You sound like a whiny kid, who's girlfriend you just dumped gave out to the new guy shes dating and not you. :roll:

:lol:
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#43 -JayWong-
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[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="swaginator"][QUOTE="Basinboy"]Just like how the PSX and the Sega 32X weren't self-ownage. Wait a minute...nnavidson

Or the slimline ps2 or ds lite. Oh wait.

slim ps2 and ds lite didn't add any new features. owned

Didn't PS2 add ethernet on later models?

Anyone who owns an original DS can say the DS Lite was vastly superior in the visual department because of screen brightness. The original DS is basically unplayable once you have a DSlite.



I vouch for this guy, because when I use my DS against my friend's DS Lite, Im always amaz3ed to compare our screens and how clear Mario Kart looks on his..
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#44 -JayWong-
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[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="-JayWong-"][QUOTE="rockydog1111"]You are comparing a 120 Gameboy to a $399 console. I figured it would be year 4 before a revised system. Not before year 2. If true MS needs to admit it so people who are about to buy one, know there is another option coming. If I had've known they would do this, I wouldnt have bought one at launch. HuusAsking


Should've, could've, would've..who cares...why bash if its going to be improved (rumored..for the nitpicky word pickers out there). DS Lite was announced 6 months - 1 year after the original's release.

Like some dude already said, it isnt confirmed, if it was, MS would announce it, and even then would sitll have a coupel of months before release.

Whether it be a $120 GBA or a $399 console, money is money and an improved product is an improved product.

Whoever bought one at launch is being cheated out of the new features such as HDMI output.

HDMI is only important if the only way you can see HD is through HDMI, which is usually not the case (and in any event, if you were restricted as such, you wouldn't have gotten the 360). HD (even 1080p) is completely possible on both component and VGA output.



Isnt the 360 "cheating" its 1080 output right now?  Just strecthing a 720 image to fit a 1080 resolution?
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#45 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="-JayWong-"][QUOTE="rockydog1111"]You are comparing a 120 Gameboy to a $399 console. I figured it would be year 4 before a revised system. Not before year 2. If true MS needs to admit it so people who are about to buy one, know there is another option coming. If I had've known they would do this, I wouldnt have bought one at launch. -JayWong-


Should've, could've, would've..who cares...why bash if its going to be improved (rumored..for the nitpicky word pickers out there). DS Lite was announced 6 months - 1 year after the original's release.

Like some dude already said, it isnt confirmed, if it was, MS would announce it, and even then would sitll have a coupel of months before release.

Whether it be a $120 GBA or a $399 console, money is money and an improved product is an improved product.

Whoever bought one at launch is being cheated out of the new features such as HDMI output.

HDMI is only important if the only way you can see HD is through HDMI, which is usually not the case (and in any event, if you were restricted as such, you wouldn't have gotten the 360). HD (even 1080p) is completely possible on both component and VGA output.



Isnt the 360 "cheating" its 1080 output right now? Just strecthing a 720 image to fit a 1080 resolution?

Only because the games themselves were designed for 720p (remember, most PS3 games are the same way). The upcoming VT3 is 1080p native.
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#46 -JayWong-
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Mmmm, I never knew that!  Thanks for the info :)