this is sad (MGS4 related)

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"]

Sony and Konami can both say Metal Gear Solid 4 isn't coming to the 360, but from previous trends, we can see that every other Metal Gear Solid game has come out on a console besides Sony's console. Metal Gear Solid was released on the Gamecube, Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3 came out on the Xbox. Since we know that that Metal Gear Solid 4 isn't coming to the Wii, I feel that all previous trends would lead us to believe Metal Gear Solid 4 will come out on the 360. Plain and simple. I'M NOT SAYING METAL GEAR SOLID 4 IS UNDOUBTABLY COMING TO THE 360; I'm just saying that all previous trends point to the idea that Metal Gear Solid 4 will come out on the 360.

Mordred19

Okay, you need to understand some things:

1. MGS: The Twin Snakes was a complete remake of MGS1. It was developed by Silicon Knights and Published by Nintendo. It was not MGS1.

2. MGS2: Substance had terrible controls for the Xbox because MGS2's controls made use of the pressure sensitive buttons on the Dualshock 2. The xbox didn't have an adequate number of analog buttons, only two triggers. It also sold poorly on the xbox and made no use of it's superior hardware.

3. Neither MGS3: Snake Eater, nor MGS3: Subsistance ever came close to being on the xbox.

So, only 1 of the actual MGS games has appeared on another console, in the form of an expansion. It's not as "plain and simple" as you make it out to be.

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]What's sad is the fact that you cows can't see that Konami is not stupid enough to leave their biggest title off the console that sells the most games. In case you didn't know they are in the business of making money, not losing it. MGS4 will be a timed exclusive at best. I'm not saying this because I want the game, I was never a big Metal Gear fan, but it only makes sense.Mordred19

business is not about prostituting a game to every system. no one knows what the state of the PS3 will be when MGS4 arrives. It could have a much larger install base by then and might be selling at a good rate, which would make a port unnecessary and impractical. so why rely on the crystal ball so soon? they say exclusive, let's stick with that (not timed exclusive) for now.

It's gonna keep getting delayed until there are enough PS3 owners to justify a release, the game is already done, believe it. I think they'll bring it to the 360, especially if it flops.jack_russel

1. it wont flop.

2. They are not going to pay devs fees for ps3 and 360.

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"]

Sony and Konami can both say Metal Gear Solid 4 isn't coming to the 360, but from previous trends, we can see that every other Metal Gear Solid game has come out on a console besides Sony's console. Metal Gear Solid was released on the Gamecube, Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3 came out on the Xbox. Since we know that that Metal Gear Solid 4 isn't coming to the Wii, I feel that all previous trends would lead us to believe Metal Gear Solid 4 will come out on the 360. Plain and simple. I'M NOT SAYING METAL GEAR SOLID 4 IS UNDOUBTABLY COMING TO THE 360; I'm just saying that all previous trends point to the idea that Metal Gear Solid 4 will come out on the 360.

Mordred19

Okay, you need to understand some things:

1. MGS: The Twin Snakes was a complete remake of MGS1. It was developed by Silicon Knights and Published by Nintendo. It was not MGS1.

2. MGS2: Substance had terrible controls for the Xbox because MGS2's controls made use of the pressure sensitive buttons on the Dualshock 2. The xbox didn't have an adequate number of analog buttons, only two triggers. It also sold poorly on the xbox and made no use of it's superior hardware.

3. Neither MGS3: Snake Eater, nor MGS3: Subsistance ever came close to being on the xbox.

So, only 1 of the actual MGS games has appeared on another console, in the form of an expansion. It's not as "plain and simple" as you make it out to be.

Calling a port inadequate doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Saying that MGS2 or MGS3 wasn't good on the 360 doesn't eliminate the possibility of it coming to the 360. And also there's a great point from the poster who said the Xbox wasn't the leading hardware back then, but the Xbox 360 is ahead of the PS3 in terms of sales, and I bet it still will be when MGS4 comes out. So I believe your whole argument is invalid and totally missing the point. Calling a game bad (especially compalining about the controls specifically) doesn't mean that MGS4 won't come out on the 360. You're purchased a PS3 and use wishful thinking as your way of justifying it.

[QUOTE="Mordred19"][QUOTE="jalexbrown"]

Sony and Konami can both say Metal Gear Solid 4 isn't coming to the 360, but from previous trends, we can see that every other Metal Gear Solid game has come out on a console besides Sony's console. Metal Gear Solid was released on the Gamecube, Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3 came out on the Xbox. Since we know that that Metal Gear Solid 4 isn't coming to the Wii, I feel that all previous trends would lead us to believe Metal Gear Solid 4 will come out on the 360. Plain and simple. I'M NOT SAYING METAL GEAR SOLID 4 IS UNDOUBTABLY COMING TO THE 360; I'm just saying that all previous trends point to the idea that Metal Gear Solid 4 will come out on the 360.

jalexbrown

Okay, you need to understand some things:

1. MGS: The Twin Snakes was a complete remake of MGS1. It was developed by Silicon Knights and Published by Nintendo. It was not MGS1.

2. MGS2: Substance had terrible controls for the Xbox because MGS2's controls made use of the pressure sensitive buttons on the Dualshock 2. The xbox didn't have an adequate number of analog buttons, only two triggers. It also sold poorly on the xbox and made no use of it's superior hardware.

3. Neither MGS3: Snake Eater, nor MGS3: Subsistance ever came close to being on the xbox.

So, only 1 of the actual MGS games has appeared on another console, in the form of an expansion. It's not as "plain and simple" as you make it out to be.

Calling a port inadequate doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Saying that MGS2 or MGS3 wasn't good on the 360 doesn't eliminate the possibility of it coming to the 360. And also there's a great point from the poster who said the Xbox wasn't the leading hardware back then, but the Xbox 360 is ahead of the PS3 in terms of sales, and I bet it still will be when MGS4 comes out. So I believe your whole argument is invalid and totally missing the point. Calling a game bad (especially compalining about the controls specifically) doesn't mean that MGS4 won't come out on the 360. You're purchased a PS3 and use wishful thinking as your way of justifying it.

Make whatever judgement you feel like making, just keep in mind what I said correcting your assertions about previous MGSs. Regarding the controls, I'm just telling it like it was. What I said previously is not eventhe focus of my arguement. If you want to, we can not discuss those thingsanymore and move on to other points, like the possible market leadership of either consoleby the time MGS4 arrives.

BTW, what was with the comment at the end of your post? Was that really necessary to resort to personal remarks like that?

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"]

Sony and Konami can both say Metal Gear Solid 4 isn't coming to the 360, but from previous trends, we can see that every other Metal Gear Solid game has come out on a console besides Sony's console. Metal Gear Solid was released on the Gamecube, Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3 came out on the Xbox. Since we know that that Metal Gear Solid 4 isn't coming to the Wii, I feel that all previous trends would lead us to believe Metal Gear Solid 4 will come out on the 360. Plain and simple. I'M NOT SAYING METAL GEAR SOLID 4 IS UNDOUBTABLY COMING TO THE 360; I'm just saying that all previous trends point to the idea that Metal Gear Solid 4 will come out on the 360.

Mordred19

Okay, you need to understand some things:

1. MGS: The Twin Snakes was a complete remake of MGS1. It was developed by Silicon Knights and Published by Nintendo. It was not MGS1.

2. MGS2: Substance had terrible controls for the Xbox because MGS2's controls made use of the pressure sensitive buttons on the Dualshock 2. The xbox didn't have an adequate number of analog buttons, only two triggers. It also sold poorly on the xbox and made no use of it's superior hardware.

3. Neither MGS3: Snake Eater, nor MGS3: Subsistance ever came close to being on the xbox.

So, only 1 of the actual MGS games has appeared on another console, in the form of an expansion. It's not as "plain and simple" as you make it out to be.

I own substance for xbox...they arent as bad as u cut them out to be...it DOES have pressure sensitive response, i just played it a week ago, if i slowly let go of hte X button, i wont fire, the first person view scheme i agree was bad, but if it were ever to be become BC compatible, that will change, since the bumpers and triggers together can mimic l1 l2 r1 r2.

I got the 360 as a gift, it would be nice for mgs4 to come out on 360, i wouldnt want to go rush out and buy a PS3 now, theres always chances, and if theres a chance it comes out for the 360, then id feel foolish for buying a ps3.

[QUOTE="wetspot96"][QUOTE="joker730"]

mgs4 not going to 360

hideo kojima the game creator said so many times

Sony says so

ryan Payton the game producer said the onlyway to play MGS4 is that you HAVE to buy a PS3.

even Microsoft's peter Moore said its not going to PS3

BUT then when a financial analyst michealpachter speculates that even if it was a 6 month exclusive it would still drive ps3 sales

so now everybody believes that it is indeed a fact its going to 360 even though he said nothing about it going to 360

i mean come this is sad lems just give it up your only making yourself look bad

joker730

did any of these guys say any of that recently or r you going on old s***. just because if they said the s*** months ago doesn't mean that its not possible to change now. you never changed ur mind? especially when there's money involved.

ryan payton said that about a week ago

doubt it

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="Mordred19"][QUOTE="jalexbrown"]

Sony and Konami can both say Metal Gear Solid 4 isn't coming to the 360, but from previous trends, we can see that every other Metal Gear Solid game has come out on a console besides Sony's console. Metal Gear Solid was released on the Gamecube, Metal Gear Solid 2 and 3 came out on the Xbox. Since we know that that Metal Gear Solid 4 isn't coming to the Wii, I feel that all previous trends would lead us to believe Metal Gear Solid 4 will come out on the 360. Plain and simple. I'M NOT SAYING METAL GEAR SOLID 4 IS UNDOUBTABLY COMING TO THE 360; I'm just saying that all previous trends point to the idea that Metal Gear Solid 4 will come out on the 360.

Mordred19

Okay, you need to understand some things:

1. MGS: The Twin Snakes was a complete remake of MGS1. It was developed by Silicon Knights and Published by Nintendo. It was not MGS1.

2. MGS2: Substance had terrible controls for the Xbox because MGS2's controls made use of the pressure sensitive buttons on the Dualshock 2. The xbox didn't have an adequate number of analog buttons, only two triggers. It also sold poorly on the xbox and made no use of it's superior hardware.

3. Neither MGS3: Snake Eater, nor MGS3: Subsistance ever came close to being on the xbox.

So, only 1 of the actual MGS games has appeared on another console, in the form of an expansion. It's not as "plain and simple" as you make it out to be.

Calling a port inadequate doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Saying that MGS2 or MGS3 wasn't good on the 360 doesn't eliminate the possibility of it coming to the 360. And also there's a great point from the poster who said the Xbox wasn't the leading hardware back then, but the Xbox 360 is ahead of the PS3 in terms of sales, and I bet it still will be when MGS4 comes out. So I believe your whole argument is invalid and totally missing the point. Calling a game bad (especially compalining about the controls specifically) doesn't mean that MGS4 won't come out on the 360. You're purchased a PS3 and use wishful thinking as your way of justifying it.

Make whatever judgement you feel like making, just keep in mind what I said correcting your assertions about previous MGSs. Regarding the controls, I'm just telling it like it was. What I said previously is not eventhe focus of my arguement. If you want to, we can not discuss those thingsanymore and move on to other points, like the possible market leadership of either consoleby the time MGS4 arrives.

BTW, what was with the comment at the end of your post? Was that really necessary to resort to personal remarks like that?

I apologize about the last comment. I was really tired when I was typing that. No offense intended.

mgs4 not going to 360

hideo kojima the game creator said so many times

Sony says so

ryan Payton the game producer said the onlyway to play MGS4 is that you HAVE to buy a PS3.

even Microsoft's peter Moore said its not going to PS3

BUT then when a financial analyst michealpachter speculates that even if it was a 6 month exclusive it would still drive ps3 sales

so now everybody believes that it is indeed a fact its going to 360 even though he said nothing about it going to 360

i mean come this is sad lems just give it up your only making yourself look bad

joker730

Until it is confirmed 6 months later.

damn the obsession with MGS4 is really making me sick.. just cuz cows dont have other superb games they dont need to hype the hell out of the game... the only reason most lemms are saying its coming to 360 is cuz that would be the end of PS3.. MGS4 is like a supreme game for them..

I just see that cows are gonna milked just like they are getting milked with GT5-prologue..

oo well good luck with the waitstation i would say..