this is what forza 3 graphicaly should compared to..(56K DONT!!)

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#51 Furzjodler
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Stop comparing screenshots, no one plays slideshows of the game :S This is so idiotic! Forza 3 looks really nice in motion, very smooth graphics and very detailed tracks. But most importantly the game is FUN; The handling is great, the AI is good and the online multiplayer will be excellent if its anything like F2. The career will take hundreds of hours to complete with the 100 tracks and 400 cars, i'd be surprised if this would score less than 9s all over.

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#52 Bladex2k
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[QUOTE="Travis_Odell"][QUOTE="nyctota"]

Nope those are photoshopped! Call me the truth.Travis_Odell

stop lying kid.. nothing is photoshopped this is FORZA 3 just exept it it looks average..

Kid? Your just an average fanboy that has nothing better else to do than troll on mommy's computer.

i think your confused with the tw[ forza 2 ss he put at the end to show the bullshot with the porches and ingame graphics with the miata of forza 2
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#53 2uneek4u
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[QUOTE="ZimpanX"]

[QUOTE="2uneek4u"]

i wasnt implying the guy that wrote it was ps3 fanboy biased against 360. as it being compaired to a multiplat game

nyctota



Is that so? What would then be the reason making Forza 3 ( a 360 exclusive ) look worse than it actually does?

So you're pretty much saying even he though has the Forza 3 review copy right next to him he instead decides to pop-in Forza 2, takes some screens and then decide to photoshop it make it look like 3 on his working time instead of simply playing 3, take some shots and then be done with it?


nevermind some are still spoiled with those PR BS SHOTS they just cant get it out of their mind.. Untill they actually gonna buy the game pop it in their xbox360 and realise it was al deception..

i would rather have dissapointment now so i can digest it instead of later and crack my hard copy forza 3 disk..

this is why they release demos. and i wasnt disappointed with the demo, so i dont see how i can be disappointed with the full game. infact it can only get better :)

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#54 2uneek4u
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[QUOTE="2uneek4u"]

i wasnt implying the guy that wrote it was ps3 fanboy biased against 360. as it being compaired to a multiplat game

ZimpanX



Is that so? What would then be the reason making Forza 3 ( a 360 exclusive ) look worse than it actually does?

So you're pretty much saying even he though has the Forza 3 review copy right next to him he instead decides to pop-in Forza 2, takes some screens and then decide to photoshop it make it look like 3 on his working time instead of simply playing 3, take some shots and then be done with it?


Simply a forza 3 bashing, like every other articles are made for. that or hyping games.

No what im saying is i highly doubt he has the full game to have such screenshots. which leaves me to believe its photoshopped. untill i see video evidence of the game. I have not even seen any most of those tracks in any screenshot or video. apart from this article

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#55 ZimpanX
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Simply a forza 3 bashing, like every other articles are made for. that or hyping games.

No what im saying is i highly doubt he has the full game to have such screenshots. which leaves me to believe its photoshopped. untill i see video evidence of the game. I have not even seen any most of those tracks in any screenshot or video. apart from this article

2uneek4u



And what would be the reason for this bashing again? Just for "the lulz"?

And it never hit you that he can take screens of every track in the game because...um, he has the full version? And photoshopping a game to look like something else on your working time simply doesn't make much sense. Oh and the impression blogs were he's saying really likes the game he simply made up out of thin air because of boredom or something?

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#56 2uneek4u
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[QUOTE="2uneek4u"]

Simply a forza 3 bashing, like every other articles are made for. that or hyping games.

No what im saying is i highly doubt he has the full game to have such screenshots. which leaves me to believe its photoshopped. untill i see video evidence of the game. I have not even seen any most of those tracks in any screenshot or video. apart from this article

ZimpanX



And what would be the reason for this bashing again? Just for "the lulz"?

And it never hit you that he can take screens of every track in the game because...um, he has the full version? And photoshopping a game to look like something else on your working time simply doesn't make much sense. Oh and the impression blogs were he's saying really likes the game he simply made up out of thin air because of boredom or something?

theres been many articles bashing games. i myself dont know what theyre trying to achieve so you going to have to ask them. but that doesnt mean theres no such article that bashes games.

i still highly doubt he has the full game.

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#57 ZimpanX
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i still highly doubt he has the full game.

2uneek4u



Ok, then what about the last image TC posted from Gameswire, I don't see the driver distance info there either, then it must be photoshopped too right?

Is there some giant "Photoshop Forza 3 campaign" going on that I don't know about?

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#58 Norule04
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60 fps vs. 30 fps


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#59 mayceV
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who are you kidding FM2 never looked that bad. as for FM3 I haven't actually played the hell out of it like FM2 So i can't give a call.
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#60 mayceV
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[QUOTE="2uneek4u"]

i think you left out the positions of the car and how far away the car is while you were photoshopping. and for the last picture you took it out to make it look legit. nice try though

nyctota

first of all i didnt photoshop anything i got it from http://www.gamereactor.se/artiklar/19556/Grafikduell3AForza3vsShift/

2nd you can turn it off as seen in this demo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZObdqFRj_Ak

and 3rd that pic you posted just prooved the point because it doesnt look any better

and 4rdyou failed

and you say he fails???? LOL

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#62 htotheo
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i still dont think you shoudl judge until F3 comes out.

I'm so sick with these threads for Forza 3 or GT5 without new info jsut relentlessly debating over nothing substantial. The thing that bothers me the msot about it is that alot of people aren't interested in getting both or willing to try them or dont want to play them all togther but want another drum of fuel to add to the fanboy debate.

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#63 _Fabrick_
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[QUOTE="2uneek4u"]

i still highly doubt he has the full game.

ZimpanX



Ok, then what about the last image TC posted from Gameswire, I don't see the driver distance info there either, then it must be photoshopped too right?

Is there some giant "Photoshop Forza 3 campaign" going on that I don't know about?

Why are you defending the review so much? Have you played Forza 2? Have you played the demo of Forza 3?

If so you should know those screens look worse than FM2, let alone the FM3 demo.

That's why its believed that these screens could be photoshopped.

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#64 MangaJ
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These sony fanboys are starting to get ridiculous. We don't like the ps3. Get over it.

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#65 ZimpanX
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Why are you defending the review so much? Have you played Forza 2? Have you played the demo of Forza 3?

If so you should know those screens look worse than FM2, let alone the FM3 demo.

That's why its believed that these screens could be photoshopped.

_Fabrick_



Played and own Forza 2, loved it. Played the Forza 3 demo and I loved it and I will likely buy it. I'm just still waiting for a good argument and some sort of proof backing up that these images are indeed photoshopped.

And the images looks worse than Forza 2 you say, need I remind you what that game looks like?







Oh yeah the Forza 3 images posted definitely can't compete with this......

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#66 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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man, i played a lot of forza 2 for a bit, i recognize the stages. now i want forza 3 :S
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#67 2uneek4u
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[QUOTE="_Fabrick_"]

Why are you defending the review so much? Have you played Forza 2? Have you played the demo of Forza 3?

If so you should know those screens look worse than FM2, let alone the FM3 demo.

That's why its believed that these screens could be photoshopped.

ZimpanX



Played and own Forza 2, loved it. Played the Forza 3 demo and I loved it and I will likely buy it. I'm just still waiting for a good argument and some sort of proof backing up that these images are indeed photoshopped.

And the images looks worse than Forza 2 you say, need I remind you what that game looks like?







Oh yeah the Forza 3 images posted definitely can't compete with this......

well theres no proof they have the full game either. just a bunch of screenshot. that can be easily photoshopped if you have the skill and knowledge to use the tool.

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#68 ZimpanX
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well theres no proof they have the full game either.

2uneek4u



So I don't own Forza 2 all the sudden? Go ahead and check my gamertag then it's right there in the sig.

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#69 Couth_
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The PC version of Shift looks better than both. Especially with 8x AA and 16x AF
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#70 Darnulin
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NFS looks better..and the background may seem blurry but thats because it gives a sence of speed when you play it...just like motion blur is used in crisis for a more realistic feeling

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#71 DeadMagazines
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If you're gonna compare Forza 3 to anything, why are you using Forza 2 shots? Utter failure TC.
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#72 2uneek4u
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[QUOTE="2uneek4u"]

well theres no proof they have the full game either.

ZimpanX



So I don't own Forza 2 all the sudden? Go ahead and check my gamertag then it's right there in the sig.

i was replying to this

I'm just still waiting for a good argument and some sort of proof backing up that these images are indeed photoshopped.ZimpanX

you wanting proof backing up those images are photoshopped. well im wanting proof of them actualy have the full game. (video proof not screenshot proof)

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#73 G-O-M-J
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It doesnt look as good as its competitors, so what? Forza 2 looks terrible next to other racers ( pgr 4, burnout, gt5p, grid, dirt ) and yet it still managed to score a 9.2..
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#74 foxhound_fox
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GT5 is on a level the xbox360 cant reach..nyctota

Yeah, yeah... teh cell, teh 4D, teh 120 fps!

funny thing is people will fall into the same trap once forza 4 gets announced...nyctota

1) Forza 3 looks better than Forza 2
2) There has not been a single direct feed gameplay screen of GT5 released yet
3) GT5 isn't coming out until March 2010 in Japan and has been in development for 5 years, I hope it looks better than other games
4) It will be funny when GT5 finally gets released in EU and NA, there might be development news about Forza 4 being released

GT5 is going to be nothing like Forza Motorsport when it comes to racing simulation. Gran Turismo has become a motorsports journalism simulator, where the taking of pretty pictures and graphics are more important that physics and AI. Two things that make a racing sim of high quality.

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#75 ZimpanX
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well im wanting proof of them actualy have the full game.

2uneek4u



He's an editor in-chief of one of Scandinavia's biggest gaming magazines, and when you review games as a job you get review copies sent to you. And yet you choose to believe that your photoshopping conspiracy theory is more likely, but fine keep on living in that "reality" of yours if you want to.

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#76 2uneek4u
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at least these guys done it right showing video proof of them have the full game. gamemag.ru (in advance video quality is bad. even with that video quality it still doesnt look bad as those photoshopped screen)

its alot easier to create photoshopped screen and say "look weve played forza 3 and it looks soo bad". which is why video is the only thing to believe in.

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#77 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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omg, bettar graphix?!?! must be a better game!
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#78 BioShockOwnz
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You labled FM2 screens as FM3? Nice try at misleading. Sigh.

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#79 InsaneBasura
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60FPS vs better image quality.
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#80 2uneek4u
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what forza 3 really looks like

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#81 ZimpanX
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at least these guys done it right showing video proof of them have the full game. gamemag.ru (in advance video quality is bad. even with that video quality it still doesnt look bad as those photoshopped screen)

its alot easier to create photoshopped screen and say "look weve played forza 3 and it looks soo bad". which is why video is the only thing to believe in.

2uneek4u

Most games look better in motion I've never said otherwise, unless there are some serious framerate or tearing issues going on. And since that russian site has the game already then all the other mags including Gamereactor most likely have it aswell. And they never said Forza 3 looks bad, I never said it looks bad, I honestly mostly just see you crying how ugly these images are and because of that they must be photoshopped.

And photoshopping one game to look like an other game is easier than grabbing footage from the actual game?...Wow.

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#82 topgunmv
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I dono what the hell you're all arguing about, all these pictures of gt5 forza and this need for speed game or whatever look exactly the same to me except for the giant logo's in the corner.

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#83 2uneek4u
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[QUOTE="2uneek4u"]

at least these guys done it right showing video proof of them have the full game. gamemag.ru (in advance video quality is bad. even with that video quality it still doesnt look bad as those photoshopped screen)

its alot easier to create photoshopped screen and say "look weve played forza 3 and it looks soo bad". which is why video is the only thing to believe in.

ZimpanX

Most games look better in motion I've never said otherwise, unless there are some serious framerate or tearing issues going on. And since that russian site has the game already then all the other mags including Gamereactor most likely have it aswell. And they never said Forza 3 looks bad, I never said it looks bad, I honestly mostly just see you crying how ugly these images are and because of that they must be photoshopped.

And photoshopping one game to look like an other game is easier than grabbing footage from the actual game?...Wow.

i never said they did. i was using it as an example that anyone with photoshop knowledge can create screens and say its bad or worse than shift or whatever they want to say.

hahaah crying? why should i be crying when i know what forza 3 really looks like. and i know to my eyes forza 3 does not or even look like those screens
besides im going to have both best racing sims games coming out (forza 3 and gt5) so i honestly dont see why i should be crying?

my point of this arguement is im only defending that forza 3 does not look like that

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#84 -shmelo-
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F3 is a bit cartoony. GT5 definitly is better, but I'm still gonna get both. I like the two because they are realistic and have the nicest cars.
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#85 ZimpanX
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hahaah crying? why should i be crying when i know what forza 3 really looks like. and i know to my eyes forza 3 does not or even look like those screens
besides im going to have both best racing sims games coming out (forza 3 and gt5) so i honestly dont see why i should be crying?

my point of this arguement is im only defending that forza 3 does not look like that

2uneek4u



I just find it interesting that even though you haven't played Forza 3 at least not these stages and used the cars shown in the images, you somehow instantly know for sure that the game looks nothing like this. Even when you drive slowly and sit as close to the screen as you do in front of your PC monitor you know it's still not even remotely close.

And even though you think know this with absolute certainty you still feel forced telling everybody that the screens must be photoshopped there just can't be any another way, and then go off to showing off-screen videos that are not a true representation of a game either and saying that is how the game truly looks like.

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#86 Wasdie  Moderator
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Wow NFS Shift and Forza 3 look like the same game.

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#87 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Wow NFS Shift and Forza 3 look like the same game.

Wasdie
no, i'd say the NFS car models look a bit less jaggified, but the environments in forza are way better
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#88 _Fabrick_
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[QUOTE="_Fabrick_"]

Why are you defending the review so much? Have you played Forza 2? Have you played the demo of Forza 3?

If so you should know those screens look worse than FM2, let alone the FM3 demo.

That's why its believed that these screens could be photoshopped.

ZimpanX



Played and own Forza 2, loved it. Played the Forza 3 demo and I loved it and I will likely buy it. I'm just still waiting for a good argument and some sort of proof backing up that these images are indeed photoshopped.

And the images looks worse than Forza 2 you say, need I remind you what that game looks like?







Oh yeah the Forza 3 images posted definitely can't compete with this......

Well considering i have been playing alot of Forza 2 recently (50+ hours in total since launch) i can safely say no, those screens do not represent the game. I actually find the graphics very smooth and crisp, apart from the very bland environments. There are a small amount of jaggies on the cars though. Maybe you should check the game out again?

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#89 _Fabrick_
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[QUOTE="2uneek4u"]

hahaah crying? why should i be crying when i know what forza 3 really looks like. and i know to my eyes forza 3 does not or even look like those screens
besides im going to have both best racing sims games coming out (forza 3 and gt5) so i honestly dont see why i should be crying?

my point of this arguement is im only defending that forza 3 does not look like that

ZimpanX



I just find it interesting that even though you haven't played Forza 3 at least not these stages and used the cars shown in the images, you somehow instantly know for sure that the game looks nothing like this. Even when you drive slowly and sit as close to the screen as you do in front of your PC monitor you know it's still not even remotely close.

And even though you think know this with absolute certainty you still feel forced telling everybody that the screens must be photoshopped there just can't be any another way, and then go off to showing off-screen videos that are not a true representation of a game either and saying that is how the game truly looks like.

Why so much hate for Forza 3? Yes the graphics aren't as good as previously shown, but judging from the demo they are alot better than these screens.

To be honest one of the most disappointing things about Forza 3 for me, is not including dynamic weather, it would make some of those boring 10 lap races alot more enjoyable.

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#90 DeadMagazines
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Wow NFS Shift and Forza 3 look like the same game.

Wasdie
He used Forza 2 screens..are you for real? ...
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#91 chaplainDMK
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I think the only thing Forza 3 needs is more AA (the jaggies are quite bad...) and some effects like NFS:S motion blur around the screen. I hope they include NFS:S motion blur in Gran Turismo 5... It looks very speedy that way hehe :D

And yea stop with the graphics whining threads... We dont eaven know how GT5 will look in the end ... ;)

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#92 Adrian_Cloud
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Considering GT5 is coming out MArch its only fair to compare Forza 3 with a game releasing this year. I mean comparing it to gt5:P is ridiculous.

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#93 anotherone10
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GT5 graphics > NFS Shift graphics > Forza 3 graphics :D

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#95 2uneek4u
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[QUOTE="2uneek4u"]

hahaah crying? why should i be crying when i know what forza 3 really looks like. and i know to my eyes forza 3 does not or even look like those screens
besides im going to have both best racing sims games coming out (forza 3 and gt5) so i honestly dont see why i should be crying?

my point of this arguement is im only defending that forza 3 does not look like that

ZimpanX



I just find it interesting that even though you haven't played Forza 3 at least not these stages and used the cars shown in the images, you somehow instantly know for sure that the game looks nothing like this. Even when you drive slowly and sit as close to the screen as you do in front of your PC monitor you know it's still not even remotely close.

And even though you think know this with absolute certainty you still feel forced telling everybody that the screens must be photoshopped there just can't be any another way, and then go off to showing off-screen videos that are not a true representation of a game either and saying that is how the game truly looks like.

overall it does not look like that

how are the offscreen videos are not true representation of what a game would look like?

its more believable than looking at a screenie

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#96 ZimpanX
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Why so much hate for Forza 3?

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I don't hate Forza, not the slightest bit. I just think the "screens must be photoshopped!" argument is totally uncalled for and doesn't make sense. But if you can find 720p pics/footage of the of the full version when someone is sitting there behind the wheel actually playing the game with HUD and everything (no off-screen, no replay/photomode etc.) that better represents what the game looks like, not looking even remotely close to the screens posted then go ahead, be my guest. Post it and show everybody what the game truly looks like.

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#97 ZimpanX
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how are the offscreen videos are not true representation of what a game would look like?

2uneek4u



Well for example, jaggies are almost completely absent in off-screen footage even though it's really there.

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#98 2uneek4u
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how are the offscreen videos are not true representation of what a game would look like?

ZimpanX



Well for example, jaggies are almost completely absent in off-screen footage even though it's really there.

ok well what if i say.

how are the off screen videos are not true presentation of what a game would look like on your screen? you only really want to know what it would look like on your screen in motion because most of the time you will be playing the game in motion anyways.

videos > screenie

if you believe screenies are more believable to what it would like on your screen. then theres something wrong there

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#99 nervmeister
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Oh great, another Forza3 bash graphics thread! :roll:

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Considering all the verbal abuse that had been hurled at GT5 beforehand (limited damage, environment is teh SUXXORS, etc.), what did you think would happen?.....

Cow: "Now that Forza 3's graphics have been exposed as being less than what Turn 10 was letting on and now that we've found out GT5 does in fact have damage for all of its cars, we would normally give the lemmings and their racer a oceanliner full of flak for this turn of events. But I think we've all learned something valuable from this. And we need to be above this sort of pettiness. So instead, let's all hold hands - lemmings and cows alike - and be glad that these two promising games are likely to give the owners of their respective systems much merriment and satisfaction."

I'm afraid it doesn't work that way here.

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#100 ZimpanX
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how are the off screen videos are not true presentation of what a game would look like on your screen?

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Off-screen footage does not look the same as the game does on your own TV, it just doesn't. I want to use videos then use 720p footage that has been captured with a video capture card that preferably has undergone as little compression as possible.