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#51 WSP87
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[QUOTE="-Skeletor-"]you know, Zak & Wiki is better than 75% of the games on the PS3GundamGuy0

:lol: ... ... no. There are so many games on the 360 and the PS3 that just put the cutesy games to shame. I get that there is a market for those, but cmon! I call that statement outlandish!!!

No go to metacritic and you'll see it's true, it's received higher review scores then 75% of PS3 games.

Okay, perhaps you are right. But then what does that make MGS4 and GTA4? Better than 100% of Wii games?

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#52 hiphops_savior
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I'm pretty sure that the TC list the quality games as bad just because it's looks kiddy, despite the fact that Zack and Wiki got AA here, and Professor Layton got AAA. Drawn to Life was a decent game, no where near as bad as some of the shovelware you listed.
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#53 GundamGuy0
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="WSP87"]

[QUOTE="-Skeletor-"]you know, Zak & Wiki is better than 75% of the games on the PS3WSP87

:lol: ... ... no. There are so many games on the 360 and the PS3 that just put the cutesy games to shame. I get that there is a market for those, but cmon! I call that statement outlandish!!!

No go to metacritic and you'll see it's true, it's received higher review scores then 75% of PS3 games.

Okay, perhaps you are right. But then what does that make MGS4 and GTA4? Better than 100% of Wii games?

GTAIV is terribly overrated. I can't bring myself to finish it, because it's just not fun anymore. MGS4, hells ya. But why fight over one game?

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#54 WSP87
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I'm pretty sure that the TC list the quality games as bad just because it's looks kiddy, despite the fact that Zack and Wiki got AA here, and Professor Layton got AAA. Drawn to Life was a decent game, no where near as bad as some of the shovelware you listed.hiphops_savior

No, he list the quality games as quality games. He just making a point. Average Joe has to sort through all that CRAP to find the good games.

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#55 Weslii
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Thread failed for putting Zack & Wiki, MLB and Dewy's Adventure in it.

And I'm playing a lot of games on my Wii.

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#56 WSP87
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[QUOTE="WSP87"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="WSP87"]

[QUOTE="-Skeletor-"]you know, Zak & Wiki is better than 75% of the games on the PS3GundamGuy0

:lol: ... ... no. There are so many games on the 360 and the PS3 that just put the cutesy games to shame. I get that there is a market for those, but cmon! I call that statement outlandish!!!

No go to metacritic and you'll see it's true, it's received higher review scores then 75% of PS3 games.

Okay, perhaps you are right. But then what does that make MGS4 and GTA4? Better than 100% of Wii games?

GTAIV is terribly overrated. I can't bring myself to finish it, because it's just not fun anymore. MGS4, hells ya. But why fight over one game?

I agree 100% on GTA4. My point was just that the Wii sucks in my humble opinion ( PLEASE don't crucify me!!!). It had a few good games, but now im pissed i bought one. My lil brothers loved Zack and Wiki. Not htat i couldn't have, i just didnt. I'm a gorehound, gotta love that M.

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#57 samusarmada
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[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"]I'm pretty sure that the TC list the quality games as bad just because it's looks kiddy, despite the fact that Zack and Wiki got AA here, and Professor Layton got AAA. Drawn to Life was a decent game, no where near as bad as some of the shovelware you listed.WSP87

No, he list the quality games as quality games. He just making a point. Average Joe has to sort through all that CRAP to find the good games.

Not really. The majority of those games aren't even on sale in most shops.

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#58 HarlockJC
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I'm lovin' Bob the Builder 8)angelkimne

LOL...I had bought many of those kind of games over the years but mostly for the PC. I did get Blues Clues on the PS1 for my son years ago.

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#59 jdc6305
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Allowing this kind of trash is what Atari did in the 80's that caused the whole industry to collapse. Nintendo used to have strict quality control to safegaurd from shovelware now it's seems like thier promoting it. Nintendo should have anounced something good on the wii by now a new zelda? or something. But instead they allow this kind of garbage to flourish on the wii.
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#60 SlorgieNel
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D: Cooking Mama is a quality game!
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#61 HarlockJC
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Allowing this kind of trash is what Atari did in the 80's that caused the whole industry to collapse. Nintendo used to have strict quality control to safegaurd from shovelware now it's seems like thier promoting it. Nintendo should have anounced something good on the wii by now a new zelda? or something. But instead they allow this kind of garbage to flourish on the wii. jdc6305

That is a myth. The Nintendo seal of approval was nothing more than to confirm that a games was allowed to be made for a Nintendo system. There was a lot of problem with bootleggers making NES games.

Go back and look at the 5 fisher price games on the NES and you will understand what I am talking about.

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#62 bf2nutta
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Damn Nintendo forcing me to buy only the bad games for their console......

Oh wait they didn't :roll:

cakeorrdeath

Some people forget that gaming is now for everyone and not just nerd teens.... 4,5,6 kids don't play fps's and if they are theres a bit of a problem

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#63 M8ingSeezun
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:lol: When you walk into Best Buy or any retailers, that's pretty much what you'd see at the Wii games section.

Kudos TC!!!!

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#64 WSP87
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[QUOTE="WSP87"]

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"]I'm pretty sure that the TC list the quality games as bad just because it's looks kiddy, despite the fact that Zack and Wiki got AA here, and Professor Layton got AAA. Drawn to Life was a decent game, no where near as bad as some of the shovelware you listed.samusarmada

No, he list the quality games as quality games. He just making a point. Average Joe has to sort through all that CRAP to find the good games.

Not really. The majority of those games aren't even on sale in most shops.

omgruserious!?!?!?! I mean really? Are they being sold period? Online? Retailers? Bargain bin? Ebay? Anywhere? Because if they are then the average parent (who is clinically retarded in 98.97% of cases btw) will see it and say"Oh! Looky! This cute game looks like tons of fun for my cute son/daughter!" Then he buys it and on goes the circle of crap. Kinda like the circle of life only crappier.

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#65 metroidfood
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...Professor Layton?

...Zack and Wiki?

...Little King's Story?

Oh dear, we don't want good games on our system now do we? :roll:

Good job owning yourself TC.

Only thing to do now is start bringing out the fail pictures...

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#66 bobbetybob
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="WSP87"]

[QUOTE="-Skeletor-"]you know, Zak & Wiki is better than 75% of the games on the PS3WSP87

:lol: ... ... no. There are so many games on the 360 and the PS3 that just put the cutesy games to shame. I get that there is a market for those, but cmon! I call that statement outlandish!!!

No go to metacritic and you'll see it's true, it's received higher review scores then 75% of PS3 games.

Okay, perhaps you are right. But then what does that make MGS4 and GTA4? Better than 100% of Wii games?

No he was trying to prove a point, that the "childish" game is actually a brilliant game, oh and I guess SMG sucks because it's childish too.

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#67 fabz_95
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God I hate these threads...

Every single console has some shovelware

Just because the wii and ds have more than others doesn't mean that thats all the consoles library consists of

All consoles that sell well have quite a lot of shovelware

Look at the PS2, its got a hell of a lot of shovelware but you didn't see people making threads like these last gen

And plus, Zack and Wiki, Professor Layton and MLB Power Pros are all supposed to be great games, one even scoring AAA and the other two scoring above AA :?

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#68 BAgamer
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="WSP87"] [QUOTE="-Skeletor-"]you know, Zak & Wiki is better than 75% of the games on the PS3WSP87
:lol: ... ... no. There are so many games on the 360 and the PS3 that just put the cutesy games to shame. I get that there is a market for those, but cmon! I call that statement outlandish!!!

No go to metacritic and you'll see it's true, it's received higher review scores then 75% of PS3 games.

Okay, perhaps you are right. But then what does that make MGS4 and GTA4? Better than 100% of Wii games?

IYO MGS4 and GTA4>All Wii games but in MHO MP3>MGS4 and GTA4, SMG>> MGS4 and GTA4, Z:TP>> MGS4 and GTA4, Zak and Wiki>MGS4 and GTA4, either Trauma center> MGS4 and GTA4 NMH>MGS4 and GTA4.... I could go on but really it what comes down to is what games intrest you.

To me GTA4 is great if your 12 to 18 but it does not intrest me at all and MGS4 does intrest me but its more of an interactive movie then a game and I personnally don't have that much time to watch all the cut screens and I would much rather play Strong Bad or go on line with DoD, MKwii or MoH:H2

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#69 ogvampire
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Allowing this kind of trash is what Atari did in the 80's that caused the whole industry to collapse. Nintendo used to have strict quality control to safegaurd from shovelware now it's seems like thier promoting it. Nintendo should have anounced something good on the wii by now a new zelda? or something. But instead they allow this kind of garbage to flourish on the wii. jdc6305

the reason for the videogame crash was market over-saturation with software and hardware, it didnt really have too much to do with Atari

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#70 laughingman42
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The only two games that you posted that are nintendo games aren't bad at all and one of them was even AAA (yes Professor Layton is AAA and deserves it) you also fail for posting Zack and Wiki and MLB Power Pros.

as for the rest of your list, good job on posting a list of games that only hating fanboys care about.

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#71 WINDWAKER1
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I would have loved this thread...except you put professor layton on that list. Credibility lost.
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#73 laughingman42
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"][QUOTE="WSP87"] [QUOTE="-Skeletor-"]you know, Zak & Wiki is better than 75% of the games on the PS3WSP87
:lol: ... ... no. There are so many games on the 360 and the PS3 that just put the cutesy games to shame. I get that there is a market for those, but cmon! I call that statement outlandish!!!

No go to metacritic and you'll see it's true, it's received higher review scores then 75% of PS3 games.

Okay, perhaps you are right. But then what does that make MGS4 and GTA4? Better than 100% of Wii games?

actually according to the gaming media. SMG is better than 100% of PS3 and 360 games.well its pretty much tied with GTA4.

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#74 Jade_Monkey
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what do u expect? wii is for little kidsxDe-M-oNx

HEY, it's also for grandma.

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#75 ithilgore2006
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[QUOTE="-Skeletor-"]you know, Zak & Wiki is better than 75% of the games on the PS3WSP87

:lol: ... ... no. There are so many games on the 360 and the PS3 that just put the cutesy games to shame. I get that there is a market for those, but cmon! I call that statement outlandish!!!

Yeah, put down those cutesy games, let's go play Viva Pinata and Little Big Planet like real men :roll:.
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#76 xDe-M-oNx
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[QUOTE="xDe-M-oNx"]what do u expect? wii is for little kidsJade_Monkey

HEY, it's also for grandma.

dang sorry, my bad. forgot about good ol granny
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#77 kage_53
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[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]

how is this what Nintendo is about, they made none of the games on that list.

BubbyJello

Except for Big Brain Academy, Wii Music, Wii Fit, Wii Chess, and Wii Sports.

:o A Wii chess game. Does it have online ?
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#78 darkslider99
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Your thread is epic fail on so many different levels.
1. The vast majority of those games arn't made by Nintendo, so it's hardly what "nintendo is all about"
2. You've included quite a few great games in that list, but are often dismissed for a kiddy appearance. The fact you judge a game by rather or not it has a "kiddy" appearance, shows you have the IQ and maturity of a 5th grader, which of course means your opinion is meaningless.
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#79 BAgamer
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what do u expect? wii is for little kidsxDe-M-oNx

Looking at you kill to death ratio for all the so called adult games (Halo3, GoW, CoD4.ect.ect.) I would say you are around 14 or someone with little to do to be able to invest so much time into games. In other words if you were or are in college/university you either just play games and have no life or will be failing soon. Anyway all the games you listed are made for kids ie:14-18 year olds thats the target age. so really the kiddy console IMHO is the 360.. anyway when you get a PC try out Day of Defeat its all about Flags not frags baby...

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#80 GARRYTH
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Damn Nintendo forcing me to buy only the bad games for their console......

Oh wait they didn't :roll:

cakeorrdeath
no but what happens when you beat those very few good and great games then what your waiting for more games to be good. while nin few games a year that are good and 2 to 3 good third party games what else will you get.
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#81 hakanakumono
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LOL "Chicken Shoot."

Other than that, the wii is full of crap. But even in that list there are SOME good games. The wii is still oversaturated with these types of games.

If anything, it tells how developers view the wii. Even though its on top in sales.

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#82 darkslider99
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

Damn Nintendo forcing me to buy only the bad games for their console......

Oh wait they didn't :roll:

GARRYTH
no but what happens when you beat those very few good and great games then what your waiting for more games to be good. while nin few games a year that are good and 2 to 3 good third party games what else will you get.


Play all those great PS3 exclusives? er wait...
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God I hate these threads...

Every single console has some shovelware

Just because the wii and ds have more than others doesn't mean that thats all the consoles library consists of

All consoles that sell well have quite a lot of shovelware

Look at the PS2, its got a hell of a lot of shovelware but you didn't see people making threads like these last gen

And plus, Zack and Wiki, Professor Layton and MLB Power Pros are all supposed to be great games, one even scoring AAA and the other two scoring above AA :?

fabz_95

Because the PS2 had more good games than it had shovelware.

The wii ...

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#84 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

Damn Nintendo forcing me to buy only the bad games for their console......

Oh wait they didn't :roll:

GARRYTH

no but what happens when you beat those very few good and great games then what your waiting for more games to be good. while nin few games a year that are good and 2 to 3 good third party games what else will you get.

i think with Wiiware, VC, and retail games, it shouldnt be too hard finding games to play

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#85 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="GARRYTH"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

Damn Nintendo forcing me to buy only the bad games for their console......

Oh wait they didn't :roll:

ogvampire

no but what happens when you beat those very few good and great games then what your waiting for more games to be good. while nin few games a year that are good and 2 to 3 good third party games what else will you get.

i think with Wiiware, VC, and retail games, it shouldnt be too hard finding games to play

The VC is probably the one thing that justifies the purchase of the wii. Which is sad, becuase the best part of the wii is the past's games.

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#86 Pinkyimp
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Why is Prof layton on there?..its not crapware and its a decent game...

but other than that wow..i teared a little just looking through this list...

Sure nobodys forcing you to buy these games...but when This crap shovleware outnumbers your First and 3rd party games..wow..just wow.

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#89 darkslider99
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="fabz_95"]

God I hate these threads...

Every single console has some shovelware

Just because the wii and ds have more than others doesn't mean that thats all the consoles library consists of

All consoles that sell well have quite a lot of shovelware

Look at the PS2, its got a hell of a lot of shovelware but you didn't see people making threads like these last gen

And plus, Zack and Wiki, Professor Layton and MLB Power Pros are all supposed to be great games, one even scoring AAA and the other two scoring above AA :?

ogvampire

Because the PS2 had more good games than it had shovelware.

The wii ...

actually, both of them have more good games than shovelware


Actually as of right now I need to agree with him:
More shovelware on the Wii than good games, but there are still a lot of great games.
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I'm frankly amased TC, how you can put all the time into getting boxshots of so much shovelware and even including some good titles in there and dismissing them for a kiddy name or art style. yet you fail to realise the good stuff on the system. did reggie put a gun to your head and tell you to buy ninjabread man?

yeah, we get it. the wii is popular. it gets "TEH SHOVELWAREZZ!!" its funny how few games actualy made by nintendo you listed (5-7 out of that list)

i agree that nintendo should have a system in place to stem the flow of crap. but your post is a joke...its like making a post on what microsoft is all about and only posting boxshots and pictures of drunk young adult males and grizzily men with guns.

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#91 LanDC77
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Some of them are good games.
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#92 darkslider99
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Why is Prof layton on there?..its not crapware and its a decent game...

Pinkyimp

Because he has the maturity of a 5th grader?
Honestly, his list would hold merit to show the bad games on the Wii. But the fact he lists some great games among the pile shows that he honestly just judges whether a gameis good or not based on rather or not it apepars "kiddy". And in this day and age, the only justification for using the "kiddy" argument is you're a complete moron.
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#93 darkslider99
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. did reggie put a gun to your head and tell you to buy ninjabread man?

darkspineslayer

well...this is reggie we are talking about, so I wouldn't put it past him :P
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#94 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="fabz_95"]

God I hate these threads...

Every single console has some shovelware

Just because the wii and ds have more than others doesn't mean that thats all the consoles library consists of

All consoles that sell well have quite a lot of shovelware

Look at the PS2, its got a hell of a lot of shovelware but you didn't see people making threads like these last gen

And plus, Zack and Wiki, Professor Layton and MLB Power Pros are all supposed to be great games, one even scoring AAA and the other two scoring above AA :?

darkslider99

Because the PS2 had more good games than it had shovelware.

The wii ...

actually, both of them have more good games than shovelware


Actually as of right now I need to agree with him:
More shovelware on the Wii than good games, but there are still a lot of great games.

I don't believe it. o_O;

If you go to a gamestop store, you're likely ti find a wall full of solid, high quality titles, and a relatively low number of shovelware. The PS2 isn't the shovelware system that sheep make it out to be. It does have it yes, some of which it shares with the wii, but for the most part the way that developers saw the two systems was entirely different. It might have something to do with the fact that the PS2 was harder to develop for.

The wii has like, what, 20 ... 30 decent titles as opposed to maybe 200 shovelware?

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Wow. The Wii is so gay
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#96 ogvampire
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[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"][QUOTE="fabz_95"]

God I hate these threads...

Every single console has some shovelware

Just because the wii and ds have more than others doesn't mean that thats all the consoles library consists of

All consoles that sell well have quite a lot of shovelware

Look at the PS2, its got a hell of a lot of shovelware but you didn't see people making threads like these last gen

And plus, Zack and Wiki, Professor Layton and MLB Power Pros are all supposed to be great games, one even scoring AAA and the other two scoring above AA :?

darkslider99

Because the PS2 had more good games than it had shovelware.

The wii ...

actually, both of them have more good games than shovelware


Actually as of right now I need to agree with him:
More shovelware on the Wii than good games, but there are still a lot of great games.

well, that all depends on what a 'good' game and what 'shovelware' means to you

but going by scores, they both have more good games than shovelware

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Nothin better to do, huh?
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I'm frankly amased TC, how you can put all the time into getting boxshots of so much shovelware and even including some good titles in there and dismissing them for a kiddy name or art style. yet you fail to realise the good stuff on the system. did reggie put a gun to your head and tell you to buy ninjabread man?

yeah, we get it. the wii is popular. it gets "TEH SHOVELWAREZZ!!" its funny how few games actualy made by nintendo you listed (5-7 out of that list)

i agree that nintendo should have a system in place to stem the flow of crap. but your post is a joke...its like making a post on what microsoft is all about and only posting boxshots and pictures of drunk young adult males and grizzily men with guns.

darkspineslayer

It's not about the fact that shovelware exists on the system, its the fact that they outnumber the good titles to a ridiculous degree.

But you're right, its not that nintendo is about shovelware. It's that shovelware is crowding out what nintendo is about.

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I don't believe it. o_O;

If you go to a gamestop store, you're likely ti find a wall full of solid, high quality titles, and a relatively low number of shovelware. The PS2 isn't the shovelware system that sheep make it out to be. It does have it yes, some of which it shares with the wii, but for the most part the way that developers saw the two systems was entirely different. It might have something to do with the fact that the PS2 was harder to develop for.

The wii has like, what, 20 ... 30 decent titles as opposed to maybe 200 shovelware?

hakanakumono

that all depends on what 'shovelware' means to you.

i would think that shovelware is any game under a 50 rating

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I request that the DS Cooking Mama, Zack and Wiki, Professor Layton, Dewy's Adventure and Little King's Story be taken off the list.