This is Why People Say the Wii Has A Horrible Game Library

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#101 luigigreen
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[QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="subrosian"]

[QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="subrosian"]The games are the Wii are similar to the casual games we saw on the PS2, whereas the games we see on the 360 and eventually on the PS3. It's not about the top rated games either - it's about the games that exist on the system, period.

If you want to play Mario games and minigames, by all means, the Wii is your system, enjoy.
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Wow. Did you look at the list? Most of the Wii games were exculsives and most of the PS3 list was sports and multiplats. And the wii is for so called "casuals"? :|



Sorry Luigi, it's just the way things are. I bought the whole "Nintendo can be hardcore" thing with the Gamecube - they pulled a solid with Resident Evil 4 and Eternal Darkness, and Animal Crossing was a cult-hit I was proud to be lead. Everything else? Bleck.

I saw the games on the list - the Nintendo Wii titles were sports games, multiplats (godfather), minigames, and the two "core" games (Super Paper Mario and Twilight Princess) that I was dissapointed with. Sonic and the Secret Rings feels like Sonic Adventure (sonic's levels) with shoddy controls and even more annoying (teeth grindingly) cut-scenes.

It's not a system for me, and I recognize that and don't try and promote it as such.

I'm not saying that it's the most hardcore system, I'm just saying that how can you justify the fact that most of the top 10 wii games are moslty exclusives, with multiplats that have had the game changed due to controls and new features. Mini games should count as games, and I enjoy mini games as much as the next person. There fun and exciting. I don't see what all the hate is about. I'd also like to say that the games tthat you thought were bad were your opinion. You didn't justify why the wii is for casuals, you gave your opinion on why the wii is for casuales. But judging from those lists, there is a much stronger case that the PS3 is for casuals.

We can argue semantics all you like. I think the Wii has its place - it's a more appropriate console for my little sister than, say, the PS3. She wants minigames she can play with her friends, she wants simple games she can pick up and put down, and she for her "ease of control" matters more than "precision of control".

It's not the system for me, and there's no way to argue based on the games that it's the system for a competitive, hardcore gamer. It doesn't have the online infrastructure, graphics, games, sound (5.1 surround is vital for an FPS), or audience for such things - there isn't going to be a new FPS, RTS, racing game, etc... released every few months on the Wii that develops a multimillion following online.

It's a system for someone we'd call a casual, or a solid system for a fan of Nintendo franchises. I think the game library is absolutely limited for a hardcore gamer.

As far as things being "opinions" - who else's opinion would it be? I'm speaking for myself. My opinion just happens to be right :smile:

I never said that the wii was onyl for hardcore gamers, as all the systems will have casual gamers. But what I'm saying is that it's had to say that mini games are more casual than sports games, considering that most of the PS3's top line up is sports games. Another point that you missed is the fact that Nintendo and devs might actually wisen up and make very good games. I could see SMG revolutionising the platform genre with some great controls and innovative gameplay. I'm also looking at the fact that MP3 is going to be a very good FPS. What wold disapoint me is if they made these games too easy, like there previous games. But, if you look at the upcoming PS3 line up, most of the games can be found on other systems, or are just unintresting. Not only that, but look at HOME. IMO, It's just a ploy to casuals to buy the system because you can have a virtual image of yourself. Yippee! Your opnion is your opinion. But saying it's right doesn't mean anything. My opinion may not be right in the traditional sense, as people will disagree, but I think some people might agree with me.
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#102 p3anut
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5 games on the ps3 list are sports games. :|
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#103 mj1108
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This thread and especially the original post is a whole load of stupid.
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#104 subrosian
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="subrosian"]

[QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="subrosian"]The games are the Wii are similar to the casual games we saw on the PS2, whereas the games we see on the 360 and eventually on the PS3. It's not about the top rated games either - it's about the games that exist on the system, period.

If you want to play Mario games and minigames, by all means, the Wii is your system, enjoy.
luigigreen

Wow. Did you look at the list? Most of the Wii games were exculsives and most of the PS3 list was sports and multiplats. And the wii is for so called "casuals"? :|



Sorry Luigi, it's just the way things are. I bought the whole "Nintendo can be hardcore" thing with the Gamecube - they pulled a solid with Resident Evil 4 and Eternal Darkness, and Animal Crossing was a cult-hit I was proud to be lead. Everything else? Bleck.

I saw the games on the list - the Nintendo Wii titles were sports games, multiplats (godfather), minigames, and the two "core" games (Super Paper Mario and Twilight Princess) that I was dissapointed with. Sonic and the Secret Rings feels like Sonic Adventure (sonic's levels) with shoddy controls and even more annoying (teeth grindingly) cut-scenes.

It's not a system for me, and I recognize that and don't try and promote it as such.

I'm not saying that it's the most hardcore system, I'm just saying that how can you justify the fact that most of the top 10 wii games are moslty exclusives, with multiplats that have had the game changed due to controls and new features. Mini games should count as games, and I enjoy mini games as much as the next person. There fun and exciting. I don't see what all the hate is about. I'd also like to say that the games tthat you thought were bad were your opinion. You didn't justify why the wii is for casuals, you gave your opinion on why the wii is for casuales. But judging from those lists, there is a much stronger case that the PS3 is for casuals.

We can argue semantics all you like. I think the Wii has its place - it's a more appropriate console for my little sister than, say, the PS3. She wants minigames she can play with her friends, she wants simple games she can pick up and put down, and she for her "ease of control" matters more than "precision of control".

It's not the system for me, and there's no way to argue based on the games that it's the system for a competitive, hardcore gamer. It doesn't have the online infrastructure, graphics, games, sound (5.1 surround is vital for an FPS), or audience for such things - there isn't going to be a new FPS, RTS, racing game, etc... released every few months on the Wii that develops a multimillion following online.

It's a system for someone we'd call a casual, or a solid system for a fan of Nintendo franchises. I think the game library is absolutely limited for a hardcore gamer.

As far as things being "opinions" - who else's opinion would it be? I'm speaking for myself. My opinion just happens to be right :smile:

I never said that the wii was onyl for hardcore gamers, as all the systems will have casual gamers. But what I'm saying is that it's had to say that mini games are more casual than sports games, considering that most of the PS3's top line up is sports games. Another point that you missed is the fact that Nintendo and devs might actually wisen up and make very good games. I could see SMG revolutionising the platform genre with some great controls and innovative gameplay. I'm also looking at the fact that MP3 is going to be a very good FPS. What wold disapoint me is if they made these games too easy, like there previous games. But, if you look at the upcoming PS3 line up, most of the games can be found on other systems, or are just unintresting. Not only that, but look at HOME. IMO, It's just a ploy to casuals to buy the system because you can have a virtual image of yourself. Yippee! Your opnion is your opinion. But saying it's right doesn't mean anything. My opinion may not be right in the traditional sense, as people will disagree, but I think some people might agree with me.

That doesn't change that the Xbox 360 *already* has revolutionary games out there- Oblivion is absolutely amazing, GeoW is a solid FPS, and C&C3, PGR3, &  XBLA round out the genres nicely. The upcoming line up - Blue Dragon, Forza 2, Too Human, Lost Odyssey, and Halo 3 wipes the floor with the Wii's lineup of games suited to hardcore gamers (seeing as MP3 might not make it out this year).

We'll see what the PS3 does in 2008, there's one system on the market already I'm thrilled with, and one I'm severly dissapointed in (Wii). 

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#105 kansasdude2009
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5 games on the ps3 list are sports games. :|p3anut

but thats irrelevant because WarioWare is a minigame... :roll: 

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That doesn't change that the Xbox 360 *already* has revolutionary games out there- Oblivion is absolutely amazing, GeoW is a solid FPS, and C&C3, PGR3, &  XBLA round out the genres nicely. The upcoming line up - Blue Dragon, Forza 2, Too Human, Lost Odyssey, and Halo 3 wipes the floor with the Wii's lineup of games suited to hardcore gamers (seeing as MP3 might not make it out this year).

We'll see what the PS3 does in 2008, there's one system on the market already I'm thrilled with, and one I'm severly dissapointed in (Wii).  subrosian

Still the Wii lineup is good. Even if MP3 is not coming this year there still other great Wii games coming out. And GeoW is not a FPS.

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#107 22Toothpicks
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Stating which console has better games then the other is entirely based on personal opinion.  And right now, I think all 3 systems line-up's are pretty medicore.

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#108 luigigreen
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[QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="subrosian"]

[QUOTE="luigigreen"][QUOTE="subrosian"]The games are the Wii are similar to the casual games we saw on the PS2, whereas the games we see on the 360 and eventually on the PS3. It's not about the top rated games either - it's about the games that exist on the system, period.

If you want to play Mario games and minigames, by all means, the Wii is your system, enjoy.
subrosian

Wow. Did you look at the list? Most of the Wii games were exculsives and most of the PS3 list was sports and multiplats. And the wii is for so called "casuals"? :|



Sorry Luigi, it's just the way things are. I bought the whole "Nintendo can be hardcore" thing with the Gamecube - they pulled a solid with Resident Evil 4 and Eternal Darkness, and Animal Crossing was a cult-hit I was proud to be lead. Everything else? Bleck.

I saw the games on the list - the Nintendo Wii titles were sports games, multiplats (godfather), minigames, and the two "core" games (Super Paper Mario and Twilight Princess) that I was dissapointed with. Sonic and the Secret Rings feels like Sonic Adventure (sonic's levels) with shoddy controls and even more annoying (teeth grindingly) cut-scenes.

It's not a system for me, and I recognize that and don't try and promote it as such.

I'm not saying that it's the most hardcore system, I'm just saying that how can you justify the fact that most of the top 10 wii games are moslty exclusives, with multiplats that have had the game changed due to controls and new features. Mini games should count as games, and I enjoy mini games as much as the next person. There fun and exciting. I don't see what all the hate is about. I'd also like to say that the games tthat you thought were bad were your opinion. You didn't justify why the wii is for casuals, you gave your opinion on why the wii is for casuales. But judging from those lists, there is a much stronger case that the PS3 is for casuals.

We can argue semantics all you like. I think the Wii has its place - it's a more appropriate console for my little sister than, say, the PS3. She wants minigames she can play with her friends, she wants simple games she can pick up and put down, and she for her "ease of control" matters more than "precision of control".

It's not the system for me, and there's no way to argue based on the games that it's the system for a competitive, hardcore gamer. It doesn't have the online infrastructure, graphics, games, sound (5.1 surround is vital for an FPS), or audience for such things - there isn't going to be a new FPS, RTS, racing game, etc... released every few months on the Wii that develops a multimillion following online.

It's a system for someone we'd call a casual, or a solid system for a fan of Nintendo franchises. I think the game library is absolutely limited for a hardcore gamer.

As far as things being "opinions" - who else's opinion would it be? I'm speaking for myself. My opinion just happens to be right :smile:

I never said that the wii was onyl for hardcore gamers, as all the systems will have casual gamers. But what I'm saying is that it's had to say that mini games are more casual than sports games, considering that most of the PS3's top line up is sports games. Another point that you missed is the fact that Nintendo and devs might actually wisen up and make very good games. I could see SMG revolutionising the platform genre with some great controls and innovative gameplay. I'm also looking at the fact that MP3 is going to be a very good FPS. What wold disapoint me is if they made these games too easy, like there previous games. But, if you look at the upcoming PS3 line up, most of the games can be found on other systems, or are just unintresting. Not only that, but look at HOME. IMO, It's just a ploy to casuals to buy the system because you can have a virtual image of yourself. Yippee! Your opnion is your opinion. But saying it's right doesn't mean anything. My opinion may not be right in the traditional sense, as people will disagree, but I think some people might agree with me.

That doesn't change that the Xbox 360 *already* has revolutionary games out there- Oblivion is absolutely amazing, GeoW is a solid FPS, and C&C3, PGR3, & XBLA round out the genres nicely. The upcoming line up - Blue Dragon, Forza 2, Too Human, Lost Odyssey, and Halo 3 wipes the floor with the Wii's lineup of games suited to hardcore gamers (seeing as MP3 might not make it out this year).

We'll see what the PS3 does in 2008, there's one system on the market already I'm thrilled with, and one I'm severly dissapointed in (Wii).

I never metioned the 360. I know the wii doesn't have as much hardcore appeal as the 360. But, as for the PS3, that's a different story so far.
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#109 camzaman
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I think that the wii has a better library than the PS3 (Most of the quality or worth buying titles can be found on other consoles), the 360 has the best IMO.

But if 3rd parties dont start jumping on the wii bandwagon, the ps3 may pass it up, and the wii will be another gamecube, amazing first party games, but lacking third party.

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