THIS MONTH!!! Blu-Ray outselling HD-DVD 9:2

HD-DVD add-on buyers got owned hard, maybe now I can get Children of Men on Blu-RayKeyWii

[QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="cjnwo4life"]

Just so you guys know, sales are not all that great for either format. Follow the link and you will see what I have always known, the hD/blu ray formats are not taking off in the mass market. I was a little surprised at just how low sales actually are.

And don't buy into 9:2 when your sales are nothing to smile about on either side.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Sony/Disc_Sales/Sony_Report_Reveals_First_Look_at_Absolute_Blu-ray_and_HD_DVD_Disc_Sales_Figures/564

Sony Report Reveals First Look at Absolute Blu-ray and HD DVD Disc Sales Figures Mon Apr 09, 2007 at 01:54 AM ET Tags: Disc Sales, Sony (all tags) Thanks to a new research report from Sony, industry watchers are getting their best look yet at hard high-def disc sales numbers from Nielsen VideoScan, including per-title sales figures for high-def discs released on both next-gen formats.

Focusing on sales data for the week ending March 18 (the same week that Sony's 'Casino Royale' smashed high-def records by shipping 100,000 units to retail), it should come as no surprise that the VideoScan numbers released by Sony are favorable to the studio, with five of its releases ranking among the top-selling next-gen discs that week. The numbers that week were equally as impressive for Blu-ray, which outsold HD DVD by a ratio of 9:2, and dominated the list of top-selling next-gen discs -- the HD DVD edition of 'The Departed' was the only HD DVD disc to appear among the top ten best selling high-def discs.

But while abstract ratios and percentages like these have been bandied about for several months now, the Sony report goes one step further, providing the first public release of hard sales figures for HD DVD and Blu-ray discs from Nielsen VideoScan, the home entertainment industry's leading source for competitive sales data. Among the numbers revealed: as of March 18, VideoScan put the cumulative number of Blu-ray titles sold since the format's inception at 844,000 units, versus HD DVD at 708,600.

But perhaps most interesting are the per-title sales numbers for the top ten selling discs across both formats, which are provided both in the form of a weekly tally (again for the week ending March 1, and as year-to-date totals. While these charts confirm the previously reported strong showings for such A-list titles as 'The Departed' 'Batman Begins' and 'Superman Returns' (with each clocking per-format sales totals since-inception of at least 28,000 units sold), they also demonstrate a very steep drop-off for titles outside of that top rung, with even discs among the top-ten best sellers that week moving fewer than 1000 units apiece:

While we should note that the VideoScan numbers are not all-inclusive (for example, they don't include discs sold at Wal-Mart or some online merchants), the lower sales numbers at the bottom end of weekly list and on display elsewhere in the report (where some titles are listed as selling fewer than 200 units since inception) are certainly still a sobering reminder that both formats still have a long way to go in their shared quest to supplant standard-def DVD.

Casino Royale only sold over 28,000 in it's first week. This war hasn't taken off for consumers and we finally have proof. DVD will be around for way too many years to come.

cjnwo4life

that's normal, it's not selling that much yet, because it's a new technology. The DVD took some time to replace the VHS, and the Blu-ray will required even more time to replace the DVD in the mass market. But it will.

yup, that's the normal course those things go. It starts slow, but in the end HDTVs and next gen disc formats will become as cheap as DVDs and SDTVs are today. And even while it's still a bit more pricey, it'll become mainstream. That should take some 3 years.

[QUOTE="GatoFeo"]Well, good thing M$ did'nt add the HD-Dvd drive.goodknight_13

The Dying console thats outselling 360???

If you want proof just read the Bloomberg thread where they state nintendo's domination has began.

584K Vs 604K

I think if it was only Sony Pictures supporting Blu ray there'd be no competition for HD DVD. It's the OTHER companies which are pushing BD to the max. What movies has Sony Pictures brought out apart from the Spider Man series that's being sent to the award ceremonies over and over?Liquid_47

Bond? Da Vinci Code? Charlie's Angels...

lol, they're not too bad. 

BR counts all their sales from discounts HD-DVD doesn't.  This stuff is too funny, but luckily I get to be format neutral and sit back and laugh at people tooting their horn so early on.  Using figures from Euro launch and sales that add in buy 'such and such hardware get so many BR discs free' as well.  LOL.  Declare victory, so I can laugh as it gets prolonged when HD-DVD players hit $199.99 and below months faster and eventually, when someone does win, no one really wins because MS is laying the foundation for downloadable content to take over as we speak and also got BR to up their codec on some discs to VC-1 in their HD-DVD efforts.  If you enjoyed the product whether it lasts or not you didn't get 'owned'.  You only get owned if you assume value for others property.  PS3 is a good console and BR movies are nice, but the arrogance of the Sony and their fanbase sold me on buying multiplat games for 360 (achievements, controller and great on-line help as well), as well as HD-DVD multiplats over their BR counterparts.  I wonder how many BR discs I'll have to purchase before Sony ever makes a profit off me.

jdknight21

They should count, They didn't just go door to door and handed out movies.

[QUOTE="Liquid_47"] I think if it was only Sony Pictures supporting Blu ray there'd be no competition for HD DVD. It's the OTHER companies which are pushing BD to the max. What movies has Sony Pictures brought out apart from the Spider Man series that's being sent to the award ceremonies over and over?the-very-best

Bond? Da Vinci Code? Charlie's Angels...

lol, they're not too bad. 

WHat About Spider Man 3??????

Expect Records like Casino Royale did.

Also just so you know Sony Pictures is the Highest grossing film house in the Business, breaking there record last year.

[QUOTE="KeyWii"]HD-DVD add-on buyers got owned hard, maybe now I can get Children of Men on Blu-Rayblackace

I think anyone who bought a HD-DVD or Blu-Ray player got owned hard. What a waste of money.

Where's tango aka hd28guy_basic???  I thought Blu-Ray = Dead???   :lol:

I guess Yellow_Rose can get rid of that "Blu-Ray is the next beta max" sig also.

Blu-Ray is the winner.  And that benefits the PS3.

"But ultimately, the Blu-ray and HD-DVD formats are likely to have a considerably shorter life-span than DVD with IPTV taking over within years"

........i read this in another website and i was wondering if its true. i have my heart set on ps3 but it would be a dam shame if i cant watch films on it.

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

[QUOTE="Liquid_47"] I think if it was only Sony Pictures supporting Blu ray there'd be no competition for HD DVD. It's the OTHER companies which are pushing BD to the max. What movies has Sony Pictures brought out apart from the Spider Man series that's being sent to the award ceremonies over and over?Blinblingthing

Bond? Da Vinci Code? Charlie's Angels...

lol, they're not too bad.

WHat About Spider Man 3??????

Expect Records like Casino Royale did.

Also just so you know Sony Pictures is the Highest grossing film house in the Business, breaking there record last year.

I didn't say Spiderman because Liquid already mentioned it but yeah, Sony certainly do have some great movies. 

PS3 uses BD

360 uses DVD

DVD is outselling BD ??? : ???

 360 wins.

carl2tan

Anybody who thinks Blu-Ray isn't going to win really needs to rethink their stance on the issue.Wasdie

itll "win" in terms of murdering HDDVD, but it terms of it becoming the standard, itll depend solely upon HDTV's become more mainstream with it. (and theyre on their way there) 

[QUOTE="carl2tan"]

PS3 uses BD

360 uses DVD

DVD is outselling BD ??? : ???

 360 wins.

jigglebilly1983

LOLGO!!!!!! 360....you have the upper hand now....toot toot
http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/News-34490.aspxPassword1233456

Casino Royale is to blame.

It will change, HD-DVDs are only $399 now 

smart move for ms not including a built in hd-dvd player LOL

maybe they knew ahead of time that it was going to flop 

Whoever thinks this doesn't matter for the console wars and doesn't matter for Sony is forgetting one thing: "TeH blu-ray111", "We don't NEED Blu-Ray" and other witty remarks about how Blu-Ray fails. These people, at least, got owned.Xolver

I don't need Blu-Ray. I get high definition movies easily through my cable box.

[QUOTE="cjnwo4life"][QUOTE="Ps3Solider"][QUOTE="cjnwo4life"]

Just so you guys know, sales are not all that great for either format. Follow the link and you will see what I have always known, the hD/blu ray formats are not taking off in the mass market. I was a little surprised at just how low sales actually are.

And don't buy into 9:2 when your sales are nothing to smile about on either side.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Sony/Disc_Sales/Sony_Report_Reveals_First_Look_at_Absolute_Blu-ray_and_HD_DVD_Disc_Sales_Figures/564

 

 

 

next time try answering be directly instead of pointing out to an essay. Instead of calling what I wrote zero reason, read and UNDERSTAND it. If you want to keep your readers attention shorten it and get to the point. We all know that blu-ray could be doing better but as of now the data only suggests that it will get better from here on out.

Ps3Solider

[QUOTE="cjnwo4life"]

Just so you guys know, sales are not all that great for either format. Follow the link and you will see what I have always known, the hD/blu ray formats are not taking off in the mass market. I was a little surprised at just how low sales actually are.

And don't buy into 9:2 when your sales are nothing to smile about on either side.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Sony/Disc_Sales/Sony_Report_Reveals_First_Look_at_Absolute_Blu-ray_and_HD_DVD_Disc_Sales_Figures/564

Sony Report Reveals First Look at Absolute Blu-ray and HD DVD Disc Sales Figures Mon Apr 09, 2007 at 01:54 AM ET Tags: Disc Sales, Sony (all tags) Thanks to a new research report from Sony, industry watchers are getting their best look yet at hard high-def disc sales numbers from Nielsen VideoScan, including per-title sales figures for high-def discs released on both next-gen formats.

Focusing on sales data for the week ending March 18 (the same week that Sony's 'Casino Royale' smashed high-def records by shipping 100,000 units to retail), it should come as no surprise that the VideoScan numbers released by Sony are favorable to the studio, with five of its releases ranking among the top-selling next-gen discs that week. The numbers that week were equally as impressive for Blu-ray, which outsold HD DVD by a ratio of 9:2, and dominated the list of top-selling next-gen discs -- the HD DVD edition of 'The Departed' was the only HD DVD disc to appear among the top ten best selling high-def discs.

But while abstract ratios and percentages like these have been bandied about for several months now, the Sony report goes one step further, providing the first public release of hard sales figures for HD DVD and Blu-ray discs from Nielsen VideoScan, the home entertainment industry's leading source for competitive sales data. Among the numbers revealed: as of March 18, VideoScan put the cumulative number of Blu-ray titles sold since the format's inception at 844,000 units, versus HD DVD at 708,600.

But perhaps most interesting are the per-title sales numbers for the top ten selling discs across both formats, which are provided both in the form of a weekly tally (again for the week ending March 1, and as year-to-date totals. While these charts confirm the previously reported strong showings for such A-list titles as 'The Departed' 'Batman Begins' and 'Superman Returns' (with each clocking per-format sales totals since-inception of at least 28,000 units sold), they also demonstrate a very steep drop-off for titles outside of that top rung, with even discs among the top-ten best sellers that week moving fewer than 1000 units apiece:

While we should note that the VideoScan numbers are not all-inclusive (for example, they don't include discs sold at Wal-Mart or some online merchants), the lower sales numbers at the bottom end of weekly list and on display elsewhere in the report (where some titles are listed as selling fewer than 200 units since inception) are certainly still a sobering reminder that both formats still have a long way to go in their shared quest to supplant standard-def DVD.

Casino Royale only sold over 28,000 in it's first week. This war hasn't taken off for consumers and we finally have proof. DVD will be around for way too many years to come.

SambaLele

that's normal, it's not selling that much yet, because it's a new technology. The DVD took some time to replace the VHS, and the Blu-ray will required even more time to replace the DVD in the mass market. But it will.

[QUOTE="cjnwo4life"][QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="cjnwo4life"]

Just so you guys know, sales are not all that great for either format. Follow the link and you will see what I have always known, the hD/blu ray formats are not taking off in the mass market. I was a little surprised at just how low sales actually are.

And don't buy into 9:2 when your sales are nothing to smile about on either side.

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Sony/Disc_Sales/Sony_Report_Reveals_First_Look_at_Absolute_Blu-ray_and_HD_DVD_Disc_Sales_Figures/564

Sony Report Reveals First Look at Absolute Blu-ray and HD DVD Disc Sales Figures Mon Apr 09, 2007 at 01:54 AM ET Tags: Disc Sales, Sony (all tags) Thanks to a new research report from Sony, industry watchers are getting their best look yet at hard high-def disc sales numbers from Nielsen VideoScan, including per-title sales figures for high-def discs released on both next-gen formats.

Focusing on sales data for the week ending March 18 (the same week that Sony's 'Casino Royale' smashed high-def records by shipping 100,000 units to retail), it should come as no surprise that the VideoScan numbers released by Sony are favorable to the studio, with five of its releases ranking among the top-selling next-gen discs that week. The numbers that week were equally as impressive for Blu-ray, which outsold HD DVD by a ratio of 9:2, and dominated the list of top-selling next-gen discs -- the HD DVD edition of 'The Departed' was the only HD DVD disc to appear among the top ten best selling high-def discs.

But while abstract ratios and percentages like these have been bandied about for several months now, the Sony report goes one step further, providing the first public release of hard sales figures for HD DVD and Blu-ray discs from Nielsen VideoScan, the home entertainment industry's leading source for competitive sales data. Among the numbers revealed: as of March 18, VideoScan put the cumulative number of Blu-ray titles sold since the format's inception at 844,000 units, versus HD DVD at 708,600.

But perhaps most interesting are the per-title sales numbers for the top ten selling discs across both formats, which are provided both in the form of a weekly tally (again for the week ending March 1, and as year-to-date totals. While these charts confirm the previously reported strong showings for such A-list titles as 'The Departed' 'Batman Begins' and 'Superman Returns' (with each clocking per-format sales totals since-inception of at least 28,000 units sold), they also demonstrate a very steep drop-off for titles outside of that top rung, with even discs among the top-ten best sellers that week moving fewer than 1000 units apiece:

While we should note that the VideoScan numbers are not all-inclusive (for example, they don't include discs sold at Wal-Mart or some online merchants), the lower sales numbers at the bottom end of weekly list and on display elsewhere in the report (where some titles are listed as selling fewer than 200 units since inception) are certainly still a sobering reminder that both formats still have a long way to go in their shared quest to supplant standard-def DVD.

Casino Royale only sold over 28,000 in it's first week. This war hasn't taken off for consumers and we finally have proof. DVD will be around for way too many years to come.

Liquid_47

that's normal, it's not selling that much yet, because it's a new technology. The DVD took some time to replace the VHS, and the Blu-ray will required even more time to replace the DVD in the mass market. But it will.

[QUOTE="Xolver"]Whoever thinks this doesn't matter for the console wars and doesn't matter for Sony is forgetting one thing: "TeH blu-ray111", "We don't NEED Blu-Ray" and other witty remarks about how Blu-Ray fails. These people, at least, got owned.thinicer

I don't need Blu-Ray. I get high definition movies easily through my cable box.

*looks at some  of the lems posts*

Wow it's like jumping off a sinking ship(HD-DVD)

Lems are now saying "DVD>>>>>>> HD-DVD and Blu-Ray" just cause HD-DVD is loosing:lol:

[QUOTE="Password1233456"]LOLGO!!!!!! 360....you have the upper hand now....toot toot
http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/News-34490.aspx [/QUOTE]

From the article: "According to the numbers from VideoScan, since its inception there have been 844,000 Blu-ray units sold, while there have been 708,600 units sold for HD-DVD. "

Is that it? They haven't even sold a million Blu-Rays unless you add in the PS3. How many DVD's are in people homes. Over 300 million or more? What does the XBox 360 has to do with this. It's a game console, not a movie player.

blackace

Yeah standalone BluRay player cost way more than HD-DVD players when they first came out (Toshiba model HD-DVD was like $499.99 and a Sony standalone was like $999.99)  They still cost a little more , but they are closing the gap, and PS3 obviously helped tons to win this format war.

Blinblingthing

They should count, They didn't just go door to door and handed out movies.

You're right, they should count.  It makes for skewed comparison data, but hey, whatever helps out your SW posts.

[QUOTE="GatoFeo"]Well, good thing M$ did'nt add the HD-Dvd drive.goodknight_13

HD-DVD should just call it quits.Paul_TheGreat

I'm not surprised, blu-ray has all the chances in the world to win now. It takes a true debacle to change that.

[QUOTE="GatoFeo"]Well, good thing M$ did'nt add the HD-Dvd drive.goodknight_13

how can a console be dying 5 months after release? if anything the 360 is the dying console.  we actually have stuff to look forward to unlike you with your 2 games coming out

[QUOTE="goodknight_13"][QUOTE="GatoFeo"]Well, good thing M$ did'nt add the HD-Dvd drive.e20Dylan

how can a console be dying 5 months after release? if anything the 360 is the dying console.  we actually have stuff to look forward to unlike you with your 2 games coming out

Has to be flame bait.

Someone please explain why I need a Blu-Ray player. I have a good LG DVD player that upconverts, and it looks fantastic on my HDTV. I'm supposed to buy a new player when I can get all the movies on regular DVD? lolNumber_1_Gamer

 Upconversion isn't the same thing as real HD source material.  Do you also watching standard defintion channels on your HDTV?

Hey, I got a PS3 for free, and my HD-DVD add on for a $100...Im not hurting either way.

HD-DVD PQ> Blu-Ray PQ

PS3 as a Blu-ray player > 360 as a HD-DVD Player

The PS3 actually does a very good job at Blu-Ray playback..the HD-DVD, eh not so much. I mean nothing for quality, its just the fact that the remote for the 360 sucks harder than the Blu-Ray remote for the PS3...

Also, I like the way, you can view Blu-Ray info such as Codec used (so I know why Blu-Ray movies PQ looks like crap..looking at you MPEG-2!) Current Audio output, and bitrates for each...something I cannot do with the 360.

LOL!! That sales list was great. Movies that just got released selling less then 2000 units for it's first week. :D Wait a minute, aren't there over 2 million PS3 with Blu-Ray out there. Why are sales of Blu-Ray movies so low. LMAO!! Because no one cares about Blu-Ray movies, that's why.

blackace

Have you ever noticed that every Blu-ray hater or HD-DVD fanboy also happens to be an Xbox fanboy?

How sad is that? :) 

Someone please explain why I need a Blu-Ray player. I have a good LG DVD player that upconverts, and it looks fantastic on my HDTV. I'm supposed to buy a new player when I can get all the movies on regular DVD? lolNumber_1_Gamer

I wish there were hardware sales figures for upconverting DVD players.  I have a feeling they've probably outsold hardware of both HD formats to date.

Someone please explain why I need a Blu-Ray player. I have a good LG DVD player that upconverts, and it looks fantastic on my HDTV. I'm supposed to buy a new player when I can get all the movies on regular DVD? lolNumber_1_Gamer

An actual 1080p source looks FAR better than a 480 source stretched into a higher resolution.

If you can't tell the difference, either fix your TV or get your eyes checked. 

Someone please explain why I need a Blu-Ray player. I have a good LG DVD player that upconverts, and it looks fantastic on my HDTV. I'm supposed to buy a new player when I can get all the movies on regular DVD? lolNumber_1_Gamer

Why buy an HDTV when you can watch DVDs on an SDTV.  Lets put it like this, cable TV is going HD, video games is going HD, TVs are going HD, why wouldnt movies go HD?  People forget that when you have a Blu ray player it also upconverts your DVDs so you can watch you new HD movies and upconvert your old DVDs, its not like you have to replace your old collection.  People act like they started on an Upconverting DVD player, NO, most likly they built their collection on an old DVD player and spent money to upconvert it for a small improvement but now HD offers a LARGE improvement and people act like its rediculous to watch HD movies on an HDTV???

Hey, I got a PS3 for free, and my HD-DVD add on for a $100...Im not hurting either way.

 

HD-DVD PQ> Blu-Ray PQ

 

PS3 as a Blu-ray player > 360 as a HD-DVD Player

 

The PS3 actually does a very good job at Blu-Ray playback..the HD-DVD, eh not so much. I mean nothing for quality, its just the fact that the remote for the 360 sucks harder than the Blu-Ray remote for the PS3...

Also, I like the way, you can view Blu-Ray info such as Codec used (so I know why Blu-Ray movies PQ looks like crap..looking at you MPEG-2!) Current Audio output, and bitrates for each...something I cannot do with the 360.

rappid_rabbit

MPEG-2 can actually produce excellent results if given enough room and bitrate.  Crank, which is regarded as being one of the best in terms of PQ on HD-DVD or Bluray was encoded in MPEG-2.   

[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]Someone please explain why I need a Blu-Ray player. I have a good LG DVD player that upconverts, and it looks fantastic on my HDTV. I'm supposed to buy a new player when I can get all the movies on regular DVD? lolDire_Weasel

An actual 1080p source looks FAR better than a 480 source stretched into a higher resolution.

If you can't tell the difference, either fix your TV or get your eyes checked. 

It may look a lot better (well actually it does :) ) put with the current price structure I would rather stick with dvd's for the next few years.  When which ever format eventually takes over from dvd it will be just as cheap and worth investing in.