This pretty much confirms that FFXIII has been clearly affected by 360 (*LINK*)

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#1 GameHog9
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http://hatimaki.blog110.fc2.com/blog-entry-1280.html

Its a japanese site that shows the FFXIII demo in the original Japanese Advent Children Blu-Ray Disc and the newdemo in the International DVD Demo

Notice anything?

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#3 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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I noticed that this issue is getting out of hand.
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Right... the system that 90%+ of the time that brings out better multiplats is going to be effect because of a console with a blu ray disk that requires installs? to perform the same as a DVD :roll:.

I'l take the 3 discs over that thanks. Blu Ray is absolutely the most underwhelming upgrade, sure its alot more space, and is hard to scratch, but it heavily relies on installations in gaming, making it crap. leave that to PCs.

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No. Willy105

hahahahahaha nice

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#6 Lionheart08
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I noticed that this issue is getting out of hand.siLVURcross

You and me both. Seriously, this subject is going overboard.

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#7 young_doe
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[QUOTE="GameHog9"]

http://hatimaki.blog110.fc2.com/blog-entry-1280.html

Its a japanese site that shows the FFXIII demo in the original Japanese Advent Children Blu-Ray Disc and the newdemo in the International DVD Demo

Notice anything?

So you are getting upset about CGI? Come on dawgs.
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#8 jherbach1222
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No. like someone else said lol they are both going to be equally great but Im probably getting it for ps3 because I like ps3s logo lol
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#9 110million
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]I noticed that this issue is getting out of hand.Lionheart08

You and me both. Seriously, this subject is going overboard.

Yeah, there have been way too many topics, for something that no one will be able to know for sure, the game looks and plays great according to all previews, so who cares?
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#10 alien_thats_red
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i noticed final fantasy should just stick with playstation

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#11 ZookGuy
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If that's all you can complain about, you need to think of a better argument.
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#12 93soccer
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[QUOTE="GameHog9"]

http://hatimaki.blog110.fc2.com/blog-entry-1280.html

Its a japanese site that shows the FFXIII demo in the original Japanese Advent Children Blu-Ray Disc and the newdemo in the International DVD Demo

Notice anything?

I notice 2 things: you have red wording and this issue is getting out of hand
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Right... the system that 90%+ of the time that brings out better multiplats is going to be effect because of a console with a blu ray disk that requires installs? to perform the same as a DVD :roll:.

I'l take the 3 discs over that thanks. Blu Ray is absolutely the most underwhelming upgrade, sure its alot more space, and is hard to scratch, but it heavily relies on installations in gaming, making it crap. leave that to PCs.

Birdy09

if installing disc is so bad why did xbox360 add that feature ?

i know if had to deal with a 3 disc game i will make sure to use the install option

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#14 dommeus
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Who cares. Hardcore PS fanboys will whine, but they do that anyway so whats the difference?

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#15 PAL360
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Why not just blame sony for not making PS3 as powerfull as they first claimed it was supposed to be insteed of bashing 360 for no reason all the time???

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It's common knowledge that if FFXIII was exclusive it would look much nicer. Just look at PS3 exclusives vs Box exclusives.

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[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

Right... the system that 90%+ of the time that brings out better multiplats is going to be effect because of a console with a blu ray disk that requires installs? to perform the same as a DVD :roll:.

I'l take the 3 discs over that thanks. Blu Ray is absolutely the most underwhelming upgrade, sure its alot more space, and is hard to scratch, but it heavily relies on installations in gaming, making it crap. leave that to PCs.

Cow_tipping

if installing disc is so bad why did xbox360 add that feature ?

i know if had to deal with a 3 disc game i will make sure to use the install option

but its not mandatory and it was only featured so you don't have to hear the DVD drive buzzing away.
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#18 -GeordiLaForge-
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i noticed final fantasy should just stick with playstation

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The best Final Fantasy game ever made was on the Super Nintendo. And seriously, who really cares that we can't play the game in Japanese??? That's the only thing omitted to save space btw....
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#19 Fizzman
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thats an excellent find you have there detective. Comparing a videogame to a CGI movie somehow proves FF13 on the ps3 was hindered because of the 360. Great job..................

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[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

Right... the system that 90%+ of the time that brings out better multiplats is going to be effect because of a console with a blu ray disk that requires installs? to perform the same as a DVD :roll:.

I'l take the 3 discs over that thanks. Blu Ray is absolutely the most underwhelming upgrade, sure its alot more space, and is hard to scratch, but it heavily relies on installations in gaming, making it crap. leave that to PCs.

Cow_tipping

if installing disc is so bad why did xbox360 add that feature ?

i know if had to deal with a 3 disc game i will make sure to use the install option

1. Consoles dont have ALOT of installation space anyway, yes I consider 120GB not that much considering. 2. Plug & Play advantage is lost. 3. In this case it is mandatory, while 360's option is optional and doesnt effect performance.
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#21 PAL360
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It's common knowledge that if FFXIII was exclusive it would look much nicer. Just look at PS3 exclusives vs Box exclusives.

PvtGump8

thats a common knowledge exclusive to these forums i guess because in the real world PS3 and 360 are tecnically even...

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#22 DarkyC
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To clarify to those with reading problems, that's not comparing early release videos to a game build, nor (most of it) is CGI. It's a comparison of the JP AC demo with the international AC demo and yes, there is undeniable downgrading.

An English link.

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[QUOTE="Cow_tipping"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

Right... the system that 90%+ of the time that brings out better multiplats is going to be effect because of a console with a blu ray disk that requires installs? to perform the same as a DVD :roll:.

I'l take the 3 discs over that thanks. Blu Ray is absolutely the most underwhelming upgrade, sure its alot more space, and is hard to scratch, but it heavily relies on installations in gaming, making it crap. leave that to PCs.

BenBenBen93

if installing disc is so bad why did xbox360 add that feature ?

i know if had to deal with a 3 disc game i will make sure to use the install option

but its not mandatory and it was only featured so you don't have to hear the DVD drive buzzing away.

well i want my disc drive to last so i welcome mandatory installations and always install games on xbox360 unless the game is not ment to be installed

and devs decide if a game should be installed on the ps3 example is killzone 2 that game runs from the disc with no install

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#24 xsubtownerx
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Yawn. You cows are getting boring. Give me some REAL facts that the 360 is destroying FFXIII please.
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#25 funsohng
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those are old comparisons...
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#26 mythrol
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i noticed final fantasy should just stick with playstation

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Just like FF 1 - 8, & 11 all stuck with just playstation, amirite? pssh. The large majority of FF games have not been on Sony's system exclusively.
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TEH SHOULDER!

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Right... the system that 90%+ of the time that brings out better multiplats is going to be effect because of a console with a blu ray disk that requires installs? to perform the same as a DVD :roll:.

I'l take the 3 discs over that thanks. Blu Ray is absolutely the most underwhelming upgrade, sure its alot more space, and is hard to scratch, but it heavily relies on installations in gaming, making it crap. leave that to PCs.

Birdy09

Actually First party devs have been doing Blu-Ray games with faster load times and no instalation for years. Hell look at Uncharted and Heavnly sword. It can be done its just many devs are lazy. And the 360 has multiplats that are better 90% of the time? Oh come on, lately the PS3 has been getting better multiplats.

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#29 mythrol
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Truth is they're comparing CGI and target renders to actual game play footage.
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#30 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

Right... the system that 90%+ of the time that brings out better multiplats is going to be effect because of a console with a blu ray disk that requires installs? to perform the same as a DVD :roll:.

I'l take the 3 discs over that thanks. Blu Ray is absolutely the most underwhelming upgrade, sure its alot more space, and is hard to scratch, but it heavily relies on installations in gaming, making it crap. leave that to PCs.

Polaris_choice

Actually First party devs have been doing Blu-Ray games with faster load times and no instalation for years. Hell look at Uncharted and Heavnly sword. It can be done its just many devs are lazy. And the 360 has multiplats that are better 90% of the time? Oh come on, lately the PS3 has been getting better multiplats.

Keyword here, first party, all of a sudden all third party devs are "lazy?" no, it doesnt work that way, theres a difference between budget & knowledge than lazyness not to mention the support.
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#31 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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so who should i kill, the 360, microsoft or square enix?

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#32 mythrol
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so who should i kill, the 360, microsoft or square enix?

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How about the PS3 for not selling enough units fast enough to make exclusivity a viable option for 3rd party developers. There are many factors that effect 3rd party developers and Sony did themselves no favors this gen.
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#33 Mythomniac
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Who the Bloody Hell Cares? Oh.... besides Fanboys.
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#34 DJ_Lae
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OH NO THE WORLD IS ENDING. I don't get the big deal.
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#35 enygma500
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If that's all you can complain about, you need to think of a better argument.ZookGuy
Ummm Am I the only one that noticed the HUGE graphical difference? In the original you can see the pores on her face, he hair is thinner strands, the shirt has better textures, the colors are better. I could go on for ages. The original pics are FAR better then what we have now.

EDIT: As Mythrol said though, the originals could just be target renders.

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[QUOTE="alien_thats_red"]

i noticed final fantasy should just stick with playstation

-GeordiLaForge-

The best Final Fantasy game ever made was on the Super Nintendo. And seriously, who really cares that we can't play the game in Japanese??? That's the only thing omitted to save space btw....

IV, V, or VI? Anyway, many would argue it's VII--a multi-disc game, incidentally.

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[QUOTE="BenBenBen93"][QUOTE="Cow_tipping"]

if installing disc is so bad why did xbox360 add that feature ?

i know if had to deal with a 3 disc game i will make sure to use the install option

Cow_tipping

but its not mandatory and it was only featured so you don't have to hear the DVD drive buzzing away.

well i want my disc drive to last so i welcome mandatory installations and always install games on xbox360 unless the game is not ment to be installed

and devs decide if a game should be installed on the ps3 example is killzone 2 that game runs from the disc with no install

So what happens if you play a lot of games? Suddenly, the drive fills up and you end up out of room. At least with the optional system of the 360, you call the shot and can pick and choose. Look at the opposite end of the spectrum--MGS4. It has mandatory installs at each chapter. For several minutes each.
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#38 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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[QUOTE="alien_thats_red"]

i noticed final fantasy should just stick with playstation

-GeordiLaForge-
The best Final Fantasy game ever made was on the Super Nintendo. And seriously, who really cares that we can't play the game in Japanese??? That's the only thing omitted to save space btw....

IX wasn't made on the Super Nintendo ;)
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http://hatimaki.blog110.fc2.com/blog-entry-1280.html

Its a japanese site that shows the FFXIII demo in the original Japanese Advent Children Blu-Ray Disc and the newdemo in the International DVD Demo

Notice anything?

GameHog9
TCHBO! FF13 hype now 7.5.
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Right... the system that 90%+ of the time that brings out better multiplats is going to be effect because of a console with a blu ray disk that requires installs? to perform the same as a DVD :roll:.

I'l take the 3 discs over that thanks. Blu Ray is absolutely the most underwhelming upgrade, sure its alot more space, and is hard to scratch, but it heavily relies on installations in gaming, making it crap. leave that to PCs.

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Installing to a Hard drive is better than reading from a disk in every way. Get a clue man.
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[QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"][QUOTE="alien_thats_red"]

i noticed final fantasy should just stick with playstation

siLVURcross
The best Final Fantasy game ever made was on the Super Nintendo. And seriously, who really cares that we can't play the game in Japanese??? That's the only thing omitted to save space btw....

IX wasn't made on the Super Nintendo ;)

Wrong its been stated that due to space constraints the ability to travel to previous areas is unavailable, which for all we know could drastically change the game. Its no ones fault but SquareEnix. After stating that it would effect nothing by going to the 360 Square have announced now that in fact it has effected the game, thats why people are a tad angry about this. I mean what else has been omitted from the final game? We may never know.
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We may never know.jwsoul
Thus it doesn't matter. Worrying about it will just drive you insane.
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#43 tikki25x
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when did Square say that?

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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="-GeordiLaForge-"]The best Final Fantasy game ever made was on the Super Nintendo. And seriously, who really cares that we can't play the game in Japanese??? That's the only thing omitted to save space btw.... jwsoul
IX wasn't made on the Super Nintendo ;)

Wrong its been stated that due to space constraints the ability to travel to previous areas is unavailable, which for all we know could drastically change the game. Its no ones fault but SquareEnix. After stating that it would effect nothing by going to the 360 Square have announced now that in fact it has effected the game, thats why people are a tad angry about this. I mean what else has been omitted from the final game? We may never know.

Wrong? What? He's obviously referring to 6 (or possibly 4, no way could anyone find 5 the best FF) as the best FF. I'm simply referring that 9 is, and that it wasn't made on the Super Nintendo, hence the wink. I don't care for "constraints" or why Square didn't make 7 for the N64.
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#45 Kashiwaba
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I dont care about graphics downgrade its an RPG who cares about graphics but whats bothering me is why there is no Japanese voice acting in PS3 version X_X:

we all know PS3 blu-ray can handle it its not fair to not add it just because you want to be fair with 360 owners.

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#46 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

Right... the system that 90%+ of the time that brings out better multiplats is going to be effect because of a console with a blu ray disk that requires installs? to perform the same as a DVD :roll:.

I'l take the 3 discs over that thanks. Blu Ray is absolutely the most underwhelming upgrade, sure its alot more space, and is hard to scratch, but it heavily relies on installations in gaming, making it crap. leave that to PCs.

jwsoul
Installing to a Hard drive is better than reading from a disk in every way. Get a clue man.

... on PC yes. the fact that the PS3 as a CONSOLE requires it on many of its games shows the weakness of Blu ray. then again barely ang games require multiple discs, paying premium price for technology that adds very little to gaming is just bad. I have a clue. installations dont benefit consoles the same way it does PC.
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#47 sexy_robot_man
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Why not just blame sony for not making PS3 as powerfull as they first claimed it was supposed to be insteed of bashing 360 for no reason all the time???

PAL360

How dare you ask a COW to accept reality, I think you are a prime candidate for some SONY dicipline.

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#48 OhSnapitz
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Wow.. Cows (just the fanboys not the real gamers)have been *****ing this entire gen.. You guys need to seriously chill. It's SONY's fault as to why all of these devs have decided to switch up this gen... A $600 console.. Are you friggin kidding me??? Don't blame the devs for actually trying to turn a profit at some point this gen..

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#49 Aboogie5
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Rofl this is funny. Let the 360 have 20 discs for FF... WHO THE F CARES!? Its the same game...

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#50 jonesy1911
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

Right... the system that 90%+ of the time that brings out better multiplats is going to be effect because of a console with a blu ray disk that requires installs? to perform the same as a DVD :roll:.

I'l take the 3 discs over that thanks. Blu Ray is absolutely the most underwhelming upgrade, sure its alot more space, and is hard to scratch, but it heavily relies on installations in gaming, making it crap. leave that to PCs.

Cow_tipping

if installing disc is so bad why did xbox360 add that feature ?

i know if had to deal with a 3 disc game i will make sure to use the install option

It added the feature due to the noise the 360 makes when a disk is being read.