This SKU crap better not become a standard next gen

Seriously this is ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous. I have no problem with special edition systems and I have no problem with a sytem remake during the later years of the system. NES, SNES, PS1, PS2 ect (I know I missed a few)

But this crap this gen is ridiculous.

• 360 Core
• 360 Pro
• 360 Elite

• PS3 20GB
• PS3 40GB
• PS3 60GB
• PS3 80GB

• Wii

Seriously these companies need to just make one damn system and stick with it. This crap is beyond unreasonable. You think its bad this gen oh you wait until next gen comes out. When we are going to get multimedia special editions of said console and what not. I mean what the hell are these companies thinking? Just make one damn system. Some would say they are making different configurations to appease the consumer. I say they are doing it to benifit themselves. They come out with a version that will make them the most money sale wise and the make an entry level model for the sole purpose of increase user base. I'm talking about you 360 Core and soon to be PS3 40GB.

At least Nintendo is doing something right *cough* with their consoels that is. Release one damn console and stick with it. I also find it funny how people made fun of the 360 for having 2 SKU's.

Next gen should prove to be interesting. We are most likely going to get tons of multimedia capabilities, tons of SKU's and MS and Sony with some sort of answer to Nintendo's Wiimote. Hooray!

Don't worry - multiple SKUs will be standard next generation. Also, the price drops? Say good-bye to those, the Apple model of simply adding newer features to the new model, then discontinuing the old one is too profitable to pass up on.subrosian

Pretty much. What Sony is doing is not giving us a price drop they are just giving us a different SKU. That $499 20GB with full B/C would have been really appealing right now at less then $399 wouldn't you say?

Personally I think it's a good idea... It offers basic options to those who don't want and or need all the bells and whistles.. I for one don't enjoy paying for something I can't and or won't use.. ie Wifi, SD cards ect.. OhSnapitz

The bells and whistles shouldn't even be part of video game systems. Game systems are for playing games. Its no wonder these consoles this generation cost so damn much.

The most SKUs I will tolerate is 2: one for casuals (like the core) and one for the gamers (like the premium)

I don't like what Sony is doing, they're releasing countless SKUs and stripping down the features of some.

Yeah it sucks. Especially with Sony, who once bashed MS's multiple SKUs.cutmaclass1

Ironic isn't it?

Don't worry - multiple SKUs will be standard next generation. Also, the price drops? Say good-bye to those, the Apple model of simply adding newer features to the new model, then discontinuing the old one is too profitable to pass up on.subrosian

Multiple skus is the 2nd worst thing to happen to gaming. Milkrotransactions are 1st, and we can thank MS for both.JayPee89

i pen that more in Itunes for showing that the virtual marketplace was a huge success.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]Personally I think it's a good idea... It offers basic options to those who don't want and or need all the bells and whistles.. I for one don't enjoy paying for something I can't and or won't use.. ie Wifi, SD cards ect.. Blackbond

The bells and whistles shouldn't even be part of video game systems. Game systems are for playing games. Its no wonder these consoles this generation cost so damn much.

Don't get me wrong.. I agree with you. But if those extras help the games out, I'm all for it... Like take the 360 premium/pro for example.

You get a wireless controller which costs more than a regular controller, but it's VERY convenient.

You get a HDD instead of a Memory Card which costs more but it offers XBLA, Online Play, ect..

You get wire ethernet out of the box.

That's a good deal although I still think $399 was a little too much for that SKU.
Then you add in things like Wifi*not needed* HDDVD *not needed* ect... Then you have a problem.

I think what we're witnessing is the evolution of VG set top boxes.. where as they're more than just game machines. ( blame Apple.. :?)

Seriously this is ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous. I have no problem with special edition systems and I have no problem with a sytem remake during the later years of the system. NES, SNES, PS1, PS2 ect (I know I missed a few)

But this crap this gen is ridiculous.

• 360 Core
• 360 Pro
• 360 Elite

• PS3 20GB
• PS3 40GB
• PS3 60GB
• PS3 80GB

• Wii

Seriously these companies need to just make one damn system and stick with it. This crap is beyond unreasonable. You think its bad this gen oh you wait until next gen comes out. When we are going to get multimedia special editions of said console and what not. I mean what the hell are these companies thinking? Just make one damn system. Some would say they are making different configurations to appease the consumer. I say they are doing it to benifit themselves. They come out with a version that will make them the most money sale wise and the make an entry level model for the sole purpose of increase user base. I'm talking about you 360 Core and soon to be PS3 40GB.

At least Nintendo is doing something right *cough* with their consoels that is. Release one damn console and stick with it. I also find it funny how people made fun of the 360 for having 2 SKU's.

Next gen should prove to be interesting. We are most likely going to get tons of multimedia capabilities, tons of SKU's and MS and Sony with some sort of answer to Nintendo's Wiimote. Hooray!

Blackbond

I agree, and I'm sure Sony and Microsoft have learned their lesson.

Another lesson Sony has learned is not to Trojan Horse their technology into the Playstation(Blu-Ray).

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]Multiple skus is the 2nd worst thing to happen to gaming. Milkrotransactions are 1st, and we can thank MS for both.rocktimusprime

i pen that more in Itunes for showing that the virtual marketplace was a huge success.

Multiple skus is the 2nd worst thing to happen to gaming. Milkrotransactions are 1st, and we can thank MS for both.JayPee89

So I take it we have to blame Sony for changing controllers after release then? Buying a seperate HDD? Everyone is to blame don't point the finger at anyone.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Seriously this is ridiculous. Beyond ridiculous. I have no problem with special edition systems and I have no problem with a sytem remake during the later years of the system. NES, SNES, PS1, PS2 ect (I know I missed a few)

But this crap this gen is ridiculous.

• 360 Core
• 360 Pro
• 360 Elite

• PS3 20GB
• PS3 40GB
• PS3 60GB
• PS3 80GB

• Wii

Seriously these companies need to just make one damn system and stick with it. This crap is beyond unreasonable. You think its bad this gen oh you wait until next gen comes out. When we are going to get multimedia special editions of said console and what not. I mean what the hell are these companies thinking? Just make one damn system. Some would say they are making different configurations to appease the consumer. I say they are doing it to benifit themselves. They come out with a version that will make them the most money sale wise and the make an entry level model for the sole purpose of increase user base. I'm talking about you 360 Core and soon to be PS3 40GB.

At least Nintendo is doing something right *cough* with their consoels that is. Release one damn console and stick with it. I also find it funny how people made fun of the 360 for having 2 SKU's.

Next gen should prove to be interesting. We are most likely going to get tons of multimedia capabilities, tons of SKU's and MS and Sony with some sort of answer to Nintendo's Wiimote. Hooray!

BambooBanger

I agree, and I'm sure Sony and Microsoft have learned their lesson.

Another lesson Sony has learned is not to Trojan Horse their technology into the Playstation(Blu-Ray).

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]Multiple skus is the 2nd worst thing to happen to gaming. Milkrotransactions are 1st, and we can thank MS for both.R-Dot-Yung

So I take it we have to blame Sony for changing controllers after release then? Buying a seperate HDD? Everyone is to blame don't point the finger at anyone.

you think the PS3 would have had 2 models at launch if MS didnt do it first?

the answer is no

That's speculation you have no proof to base that off of. Sony bashed MS for having multiple SKU's and then had no second thoughs for launching with two and then releasing another one with plans to release a 4th. It doesn't matter who started it, it matters who is doing it and Sony is just as guilty of it as MS even more guilty at this point and time.

I dont really care about multiple skus.As long as theres a decent mid level sku with all the standard features, I know I'll get that one.Thats what the 360 premium and 60GB ps3 are for.However, I'll never buy a gimped version of any console like the Core or 40gb ps3.

[QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]Multiple skus is the 2nd worst thing to happen to gaming. Milkrotransactions are 1st, and we can thank MS for both.Blackbond

So I take it we have to blame Sony for changing controllers after release then? Buying a seperate HDD? Everyone is to blame don't point the finger at anyone.

you think the PS3 would have had 2 models at launch if MS didnt do it first?

the answer is no

That's speculation you have no proof to base that off of. Sony bashed MS for having multiple SKU's and then had no second thoughs for launching with two and then releasing another one with plans to release a 4th. It doesn't matter who started it, it matters who is doing it and Sony is just as guilty of it as MS even more guilty at this point and time.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]Multiple skus is the 2nd worst thing to happen to gaming. Milkrotransactions are 1st, and we can thank MS for both.R-Dot-Yung

So I take it we have to blame Sony for changing controllers after release then? Buying a seperate HDD? Everyone is to blame don't point the finger at anyone.

you think the PS3 would have had 2 models at launch if MS didnt do it first?

the answer is no

Last Generation....

PS 2

PS2 W/Online Adapter

PS2 W/HDD + Online Adapter

PS2 Slim W/Online built in

***

Xbox...

/Argument

I think the multi SKUS are a result of the publics constant compaint about pricing, back in the old days people would eithr buy it or not buy it. Manufacturers would make one console and would lower the price once it became profitable to do so, but nowadays every penny pinching Joe blow is voicing their opinions online withand it's forcing companies rework their business modo. Instead of lowering prices to satisfy the cheapos they just strip parts and give various iterations of the same hardware.

Really multi SKU hardware is a product of the consumers not the distributors, so if anyone is to blame its the cheapos who constantly nag about pricing with total disregard for currency inflation and a simple factor time.

The PC underwent the same thing, it was standarized to begin with, then there became more and more options.. Since consoles are gradually becoming PC's this isn't unexpected and will continue. omgimba

I've always thought of consoles as computers for dummies, making it easy and simple for people to play games because they don't have to keep buying parts, or knowing the specs...

Consoles going that way is a bad thing IMO.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]Multiple skus is the 2nd worst thing to happen to gaming. Milkrotransactions are 1st, and we can thank MS for both.JayPee89

So I take it we have to blame Sony for changing controllers after release then? Buying a seperate HDD? Everyone is to blame don't point the finger at anyone.

you think the PS3 would have had 2 models at launch if MS didnt do it first?

the answer is no

That's speculation you have no proof to base that off of. Sony bashed MS for having multiple SKU's and then had no second thoughs for launching with two and then releasing another one with plans to release a 4th. It doesn't matter who started it, it matters who is doing it and Sony is just as guilty of it as MS even more guilty at this point and time.

The point of the thread is not who started it, its who is doing it man.

I think the multi SKUS are a result of the publics constant compaint about pricing, back in the old days people would eithr buy it or not buy it. Manufacturers would make one console and would lower the price once it became profitable to do so, but nowadays every penny pinching Joe blow is voicing their opinions online withand it's forcing companies rework their business modo. Instead of lowering prices to satisfy the cheapos they just strip parts and give various iterations of the same hardware.

Really multi SKU hardware is a product of the consumers not the distributors, so if anyone is to blame its the cheapos who constantly nag about pricing with total disregard for currency inflation and a simple factor time.

pimperjones

Penny pinching Joe Blow and cheapos lol. Yeah let me tell you. Thank god Sony doubled the price of their new system compared to last system. I mean PS2 was $300 and PS3 was $600. Oh man I'm so cheap because Sony doubled the price of what I had to pay to buy their console. I don't blame the cheapos I blame Sony. Make an affordable damn console. Paying that much money for a video game system is just sad imo. I would be ashamed to even let somebody know I spent $600 on a PS3 at launch let alone $500. We are the consumers dammit they need to listen to us not the other way around. They need to give us the feature console at a good price. Blame the cheapos. You sound like a Sony PR guy man and no that isn't a good thing.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

you think the PS3 would have had 2 models at launch if MS didnt do it first?

the answer is no

R-Dot-Yung

Last Generation....

PS 2

PS2 W/Online Adapter

PS2 W/HDD + Online Adapter

PS2 Slim W/Online built in

***

Xbox...

/Argument

That is not the same, at all

Actually that is the same thing... Just over a longer period of time.. IF you want to play the "blame game".. You can point the finger at Sony... BUT if you are going to be logical about it it's because of the changing market. The consumer market isn't in the same shape it was 10-15 years ago. Then you had no choice in what you were buying.. It's either the standard model or you simply didn't play anything.. :? Now in the "Ipod era" everyone wants choices.. And I can't blame em... Like I said earlier, If you want it a certain way, why shouldn't you be able to have it that way? If the PS3 was $400 w/Online out of the box(no wifi seeing as how I have a hard wire connection), 2 USB ports (..the hell do I need 4 of em for?) and HDMI enabled bluray(it's coming lemmings why deny it).. And a 40 gig HDD(seems great..) then why should I be forced to spend $600 on the higher end model? It's all about preference.

Personally I wouldn't mind if they released even 15 different SKUs as long as they did it all at once at the same time....or at least give the information to gamers before hand that they would be making new SKUs and also announce the differences between each one...that way we could all make up our mind about which one would better suit our needs.

However, releasing different types of SKUs out of the blue just ends up screwing early adopters who might actually want a newer version of the system that better suits their needs.

That's my Personal Opinion though. >.>

[QUOTE="pimperjones"]

I think the multi SKUS are a result of the publics constant compaint about pricing, back in the old days people would eithr buy it or not buy it. Manufacturers would make one console and would lower the price once it became profitable to do so, but nowadays every penny pinching Joe blow is voicing their opinions online withand it's forcing companies rework their business modo. Instead of lowering prices to satisfy the cheapos they just strip parts and give various iterations of the same hardware.

Really multi SKU hardware is a product of the consumers not the distributors, so if anyone is to blame its the cheapos who constantly nag about pricing with total disregard for currency inflation and a simple factor time.

Blackbond

Penny pinching Joe Blow and cheapos lol. Yeah let me tell you. Thank god Sony doubled the price of their new system compared to last system. I mean PS2 was $300 and PS3 was $600. Oh man I'm so cheap because Sony doubled the price of what I had to pay to buy their console. I don't blame the cheapos I blame Sony. Make an affordable damn console. Paying that much money for a video game system is just sad imo. I would be ashamed to even let somebody know I spent $600 on a PS3 at launch let alone $500. We are the consumers dammit they need to listen to us not the other way around. They need to give us the feature console at a good price. Blame the cheapos. You sound like a Sony PR guy man and no that isn't a good thing.

Don't blame distributors for pricing their hardware at a loss, thats just childish. If Sony were actually making money then thats a different story.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="pimperjones"]

I think the multi SKUS are a result of the publics constant compaint about pricing, back in the old days people would eithr buy it or not buy it. Manufacturers would make one console and would lower the price once it became profitable to do so, but nowadays every penny pinching Joe blow is voicing their opinions online withand it's forcing companies rework their business modo. Instead of lowering prices to satisfy the cheapos they just strip parts and give various iterations of the same hardware.

Really multi SKU hardware is a product of the consumers not the distributors, so if anyone is to blame its the cheapos who constantly nag about pricing with total disregard for currency inflation and a simple factor time.

pimperjones

Penny pinching Joe Blow and cheapos lol. Yeah let me tell you. Thank god Sony doubled the price of their new system compared to last system. I mean PS2 was $300 and PS3 was $600. Oh man I'm so cheap because Sony doubled the price of what I had to pay to buy their console. I don't blame the cheapos I blame Sony. Make an affordable damn console. Paying that much money for a video game system is just sad imo. I would be ashamed to even let somebody know I spent $600 on a PS3 at launch let alone $500. We are the consumers dammit they need to listen to us not the other way around. They need to give us the feature console at a good price. Blame the cheapos. You sound like a Sony PR guy man and no that isn't a good thing.

Don't blame distributors for pricing their hardware at a loss, thats just childish. If Sony were actually making money then thats a different story.

• PS1 = $300
• PS2 = $300
• PS3 = $600

Uh huh so through advances in technology we get more expensive consoles. Yet the PS1 and PS2 launched the same. The PS3 wasn't even in the ballpart compared to the previous two consoles it was double the price.

You paid $600 for a Dreamcast? I fell sorry for you. I got mines for $20.

Oh and one more thing. Cars =/= Consoles. Its been proven through economic theory on this forum before and its just not a good analogy at all so drop it.

Wasn't the argument with Lemmings "at least we have a choice" go into this catagory of debate? Suddenly both platforms have choices and now it's suddenly a bad thing for everyone? There's nothing wrong with having choices when you decide on buying something big. But at the same time, it would be nice to just have one single SKU for a platform and go from there. It would defenitely addless to the confusion to the consumer as you have a retailer sit there and explain each and every SKU available to sell.

It's already becoming standard-ish. Although revisions later down the line with "slim" versions is very nice. And what about colors? Why can't we have a choice of colored consoles from day 1?

Multiple skus is the 2nd worst thing to happen to gaming. Milkrotransactions are 1st, and we can thank MS for both.JayPee89

It will happen next gen and it's kind of a good thing. The real problem is that neither 360 or PS3 has come out with a true Core system and a significantly better premium. What they need is a low priced model with all the required features as the base line and a much more expensive high end model with new features. PS3 I think will have it perfectly with 40GB stripped down for $399, 80GB with decent BC for $499, and a new high end 160GB model with full hardware BC and some extras for $599.

360 should've just never had the damned Core.... and that 20GB (12 in reality) HDD in the premium is way too small these days. Should've switched it out for a 40GB long ago.

[QUOTE="pimperjones"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="pimperjones"]

I think the multi SKUS are a result of the publics constant compaint about pricing, back in the old days people would eithr buy it or not buy it. Manufacturers would make one console and would lower the price once it became profitable to do so, but nowadays every penny pinching Joe blow is voicing their opinions online withand it's forcing companies rework their business modo. Instead of lowering prices to satisfy the cheapos they just strip parts and give various iterations of the same hardware.

Really multi SKU hardware is a product of the consumers not the distributors, so if anyone is to blame its the cheapos who constantly nag about pricing with total disregard for currency inflation and a simple factor time.

Blackbond

Penny pinching Joe Blow and cheapos lol. Yeah let me tell you. Thank god Sony doubled the price of their new system compared to last system. I mean PS2 was $300 and PS3 was $600. Oh man I'm so cheap because Sony doubled the price of what I had to pay to buy their console. I don't blame the cheapos I blame Sony. Make an affordable damn console. Paying that much money for a video game system is just sad imo. I would be ashamed to even let somebody know I spent $600 on a PS3 at launch let alone $500. We are the consumers dammit they need to listen to us not the other way around. They need to give us the feature console at a good price. Blame the cheapos. You sound like a Sony PR guy man and no that isn't a good thing.

Don't blame distributors for pricing their hardware at a loss, thats just childish. If Sony were actually making money then thats a different story.

• PS1 = $300
• PS2 = $300
• PS3 = $600

Uh huh so through advances in technology we get more expensive consoles. Yet the PS1 and PS2 launched the same. The PS3 wasn't even in the ballpart compared to the previous two consoles it was double the price.

You paid $600 for a Dreamcast? I fell sorry for you. I got mines for $20.

Oh and one more thing. Cars =/= Consoles. Its been proven through economic theory on this forum before and its just not a good analogy at all so drop it.

Can't afford a Ferrari buy a Honda, thats what I'd do. Whining is for children, real men suck it up and move on.

Personally I think it's a good idea... It offers basic options to those who don't want and or need all the bells and whistles.. I for one don't enjoy paying for something I can't and or won't use.. ie Wifi, SD cards ect.. OhSnapitz

all that could be done through addons, what sony should have done is made the ps3 with BC, 1 HDMI or Component cable, no hard drive, just1 or 2gb internal memory for game saves and few other thingsbut then have different sizeexternal hard drive addons.. they could easily sell somthing like that for aroun £250 ...

I agree.

One SKU with tons of upgrades possible, none of which are required.

Some people don't like to wait for technology others do, I'm glad you gota Dreamcast for 20 bucks after like 10 years, but I prefer to enjoy myself now not later. I don't wait for console launches, I pay the premium to enjoy the newest technology the day it comes out. Thats me, while there are others who like to wait for the prices to become more reasonable before they invest thats their choice. In the end you have a choice, your either like me who will pay the price of admission on day one or you wait for it and enjoy it later at a discount. But then there are people like you who I can't stand, the ones who can't afford the early adopters price but still want it on first day so they piss and moan. If you can't afford it then don't buy it, crying isn't helping.

Can't afford a Ferrari buy a Honda, thats what I'd do. Whining is for children, real men suck it up and move on.

pimperjones

Nice speculation about my Dreamcast there buddy. But you're wrong. Dreamcast hasn't even been out for 10 years....

I own Wii and 360 right now so don't tell me about not wanting to wait because I buy the consoles as they come.

You pay the premium well thats you. You are a minority.

You can't stand people that can't afford to be early adopters? Heh well sorry not everyone is wealthy and sorry even if I had the money I still wouldn't pay $600 for a PS3 at launch.

If you can't afford then don't buy it. PS3 sales have shown that people are doing just that.

Crying won't help? So why is Sony scrambling to get a lower priced SKU out and trying to get Rumble back?

You are the absolute minority when it comes to consumers of consoles. No console would ever survive based on meeting the needs of someone like yourself. A console has to reach the masses, period.

Blackbond look at the total hardware sales along with failure attach rates as in look at the systems that did multiple SKU's and compare them to the one that didn't and look at how they performed with what I've listed....now tell me do you think they'll even dare try this next-gen?Gunraidan

Who knows what these companies will do next. I'm 100% sure they will suprise us lol

[QUOTE="pimperjones"]

Some people don't like to wait for technology others do, I'm glad you gota Dreamcast for 20 bucks after like 10 years, but I prefer to enjoy myself now not later. I don't wait for console launches, I pay the premium to enjoy the newest technology the day it comes out. Thats me, while there are others who like to wait for the prices to become more reasonable before they invest thats their choice. In the end you have a choice, your either like me who will pay the price of admission on day one or you wait for it and enjoy it later at a discount. But then there are people like you who I can't stand, the ones who can't afford the early adopters price but still want it on first day so they piss and moan. If you can't afford it then don't buy it, crying isn't helping.

Can't afford a Ferrari buy a Honda, thats what I'd do. Whining is for children, real men suck it up and move on.

Blackbond

Nice speculation about my Dreamcast there buddy. But you're wrong. Dreamcast hasn't even been out for 10 years....

I own Wii and 360 right now so don't tell me about not wanting to wait because I buy the consoles as they come.

You pay the premium well thats you. You are a minority.

You can't stand people that can't afford to be early adopters? Heh well sorry not everyone is wealthy and sorry even if I had the money I still wouldn't pay $600 for a PS3 at launch.

If you can't afford then don't buy it. PS3 sales have shown that people are doing just that.

Crying won't help? So why is Sony scrambling to get a lower priced SKU out and trying to get Rumble back?

You are the absolute minority when it comes to consumers of consoles. No console would ever survive based on meeting the needs of someone like yourself. A console has to reach the masses, period.

P.S I didn't say I hated people who can't afford to early adopt, I said I hate people who can't but choose to whine about it like a child. Many of my friends don't choose to early adopt to advanced technology like me but they don't cry about it like you, thank god for that.

Who knows what these companies will do next. I'm 100% sure they will suprise us lol

Blackbond

Not to sound rude but I think you should take to heart more what I said.

SONY and Microsoft followed the old path of gaming and pushed it so far that is was far too big for what it was supporting.

The gaming market is in no way, shape, or form big enough to support multiple SKU's and $600 gaming systems.

To add on to the BS developers started making their games multiplatform so leaving that multiple hundred dollar system you paid for completly useless, if I'm going to buy a system I'd at least have a fair share amount of games utilize it for what it's good for.

Finally, developers were talking about "in-game" advertising and microtransactions....do I really need to say why these things are BS.

I personally saw this as the begining of the decline of gaming, I saw North America and Europe and other regions going down the same ship that Japan has went.

But then Nintendo changed everything. How? By doing everything they did the opposite way.

Yes I know the Wii finally has some great games announced for it, but before it was useless.

What sold the Wii besides it's excellent marketing was the fact that it didn't have any BS besides its game library.

It was: Cheap, One SKU, Non-Defective, and Simple that was it.

There was no BS here and still isn't.

If a game is announced for the Wii it's probably exclusive, if I buy a Wii I don't have to worry about it breaking, with the Wii I brought I don't have to worry about something that will replace it for quite some while.

There are others things I missed such as the support from a development status as of cheap development costs and small developer friendly. But I think I've covered what I needed to cover. :)

They have since the beginning of console history and they will untill the end. Sony isn't dropping the prices cause people like you are whining, they are doing it because they can. The PS3 is old now, BluRay players are down to 300 dollars a pop and the CELL is cheaper to produce. All consoles start off selling high and then drop throughout its life span the PS3 is no exception. The reason Sony didn't drop the PS3 price at launch is because they couldn't afford to, the reason they're dropping it now is because they can afford to. Don't give yourself too much credit, your moaning serves no purpose other than to amuse me.

P.S I didn't say I hated people who can't afford to early adopt, I said I hate people who can't but choose to whine about it like a child. Many of my friends don't choose to early adopt to advanced technology like me but they don't cry about it like you, thank god for that.

pimperjones

Oh man we have a man in denial right here lol. The reason they are making the $399 SKU is to increase sales because people are whining and complaining about not being able to afford the higher priced models. If you don't believe this then I don't know what to tell you. Sales prove that Sony's high priced system isn't selling as well as the others. Sony needed to get a cheaper model out and that's exactly what they are doing.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Who knows what these companies will do next. I'm 100% sure they will suprise us lol

Gunraidan

Not to sound rude but I think you should take to heart more what I said.

SONY and Microsoft followed the old path of gaming and pushed it so far that is was far too big for what it was supporting.

The gaming market is in no way, shape, or form big enough to support multiple SKU's and $600 gaming systems.

To add on to the BS developers started making their games multiplatform so leaving that multiple hundred dollar system you paid for completly useless, if I'm going to buy a system I'd at least have a fair share amount of games utilize it for what it's good for.

Finally, developers were talking about "in-game" advertising and microtransactions....do I really need to say why these things are BS.

I personally saw this as the begining of the decline of gaming, I saw North America and Europe and other regions going down the same ship that Japan has went.

But then Nintendo changed everything. How? By doing everything they did the opposite way.

Yes I know the Wii finally has some great games announced for it, but before it was useless.

What sold the Wii besides it's excellent marketing was the fact that it didn't have any BS besides its game library.

It was: Cheap, One SKU, Non-Defective, and Simple that was it.

There was no BS here and still isn't.

If a game is announced for the Wii it's probably exclusive, if I buy a Wii I don't have to worry about it breaking, with the Wii I brought I don't have to worry about something that will replace it for quite some while.

There are others things I missed such as the support from a development status as of cheap development costs and small developer friendly. But I think I've covered what I needed to cover. :)

My bad I was wrapped up in Halo 3. I just finished it Solo Legendary and I was only checking the forum in between cutscenes :P

But yes I agree with just about everything you have said. I also agree with your stance on Nintendo. Sure they don't have the best games out now but they did exactly what you are supposed to do with Hardware.

1. One SKU
2. Make it reliable
3. Make it affordable