Thoughts from oldschool Nintendo fans please.

What are the thoughts of old-school NES and SNES fans, regarding the recent revival of Nintendo in the mainstream?

Rather embarassing. The NES and SNES were great - tons of third party games (Mega Man, Final Fantasy, Contra, Castlevania, etc. etc.), the best first party games (Super Metroid, Super Mario World, ALTTP, etc. etc.) and didn't rely on a gimmick to sell the system (although the NES had a few gimmicks), but instead relied on good games.AHUGECAT

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Rather embarassing. The NES and SNES were great - tons of third party games (Mega Man, Final Fantasy, Contra, Castlevania, etc. etc.), the best first party games (Super Metroid, Super Mario World, ALTTP, etc. etc.) and didn't rely on a gimmick to sell the system (although the NES had a few gimmicks), but instead relied on good games.lazzordude

It's selling so well because of the gimmick - while the Xbox 360 sells based on good games, Nintendo puts a poorly put together system with a primitive gyration controller and sells it for $250 (their most expensive console ever).

What are the thoughts of old-school NES and SNES fans, regarding the recent revival of Nintendo in the mainstream?

Lilac_Benjie

It's great!

I just wish the Wii was as satisfying and complete a system all round as the SNES was.

That machine just got everything right.

The only mistake Nintendo made during the SNES era IMO was censoring some blood and slight sexual images in some games, like Mortal Kombat and Final Fight etc. Other than that the SNES was a perfect machine in every single way relative to the times.

I just wish they could iron out all the current little niggles with the Wii, and we would have a very very good gaming system on our hands...

Its good to see nintendo back as a main player in the console race. 

I wouldnt say im old school, but i owned nintendo consoles from the snes on up.

my thoughts: the wii is a very bad console with few games i care about, no online, bad graphics, and bad 3rd party support.   

I started playing video games when I was 4 (1981). I was 8 when the NES came out. I remember how things were back then and how much they changed after 1985. In my mind, the Wii has as much potential as the NES did to rejuvenate the industry.

Personally, I could not be more pleased. I think it's great that The best video game company ever is getting the accolades it deserves. This just proves that you don't have to be the most powerful system on the block with movie-like graphics to be a great console.

 Gaming should be about fun, and apparently the masses agree. People on this forum will say it's all just casuals, but that's not entirely true. These same people don't represent the outside world and are somewhat delusional and are wishful thinkers.

Shrug.  So far so good.  Let's see how MP3 plays.

Then get some RPGs and Adventure games.

And a few decent Wiimakes.

And I'll be completely happy.

I'm pretty happy with Nintendo's decision not to enter the HD race and release a $300-600 console. The games have been somewhat satisfying to me as I didn't expect much at launch (I don't know who should).

Now I'm starting to see some great games come in and online will start up soon, and though I'm not an online gamer (besider Counter-Strike of course) I think Nintendo is doing things right this time around.

I've been gaming since the atari 2600 era, yes i had one, and I've owned every Nintendo system to date.  I still have a Virtual Boy too.

I am glad to see Nintendo doing well again, because I think they make some of the best games around.  That being said, I'm a little disappointed in the Wii right now. 

The problem for me is that the current games for the system do not show what I believe to be the potential of the system.  Most of the non-mini game collections, do not make good use of the controller.  Madden and Monkey Ball are steps in the right direction, but many of the first person shooters and adventure games  haven't been executed that well. Swinging the remote to generate a canned sword swing is not the best use of the controller.  I want completely mapped motions.  Then the Wii will be amazing.  And I hope Metroid shows how to properly handle first person controls.

All that being said, I guess I want to see Nintendo show that the remote works well for all genres, not just a select few.  And I would like to see more "epic" type games.  I know the system is geared towards everyone, and to pull in many of the non-gamers, the party games are needed, but I think we are seeing to many of these types of games.  It's not just Nintendo.  The third parties are just as guilty.  I think the third parties see the success Nintendo is having with these unique or simple games, and the third parties think they can do the same.  The result is that we are getting too many of these types of games.

These are just my thoughts, and I know not everyone will agree.

It's great!

I just wish the Wii was as satisfying and complete a system all round as the SNES was.freeload

It will be. SNES wasn't "complete" right away. 

Never was I a hardcore Nintendo fan. Preferred Sega. And loved both Genesis and SNES equally. To be honest....I'm happy to see Nintendo back in track. But now, the market is totally different. And, imho, there are other platforms to embrace and other games and genres to embrace. Kudos to Nintendo for their unrelenting endeavors in the industry. But what dictates the gaming industry are: GAMES.

Nintendo could be the #1 gaming system....like iPod being the #1 mp3 player.....but there are many games to look forward to not just Nintendo 1st party games.

I wouldnt say im old school, but i owned nintendo consoles from the snes on up.

 

my thoughts: the wii is a very bad console with few games i care about, no online, bad graphics, and bad 3rd party support.   

JPOBS

I've been gaming since the NES and GB, and have been playing on every nintendo system since then (even the virtual boy--because it was dirt cheap at the end.  Also- i play psp more than ds).  I would definitely say the snes was their golden age-best games of their gen.  The n64 had the best games of its gen, although nintendo was obviously in trouble.  GC was better than n64 in 3rd party support, but worse 1st party (I love pikmin!)

As for the wii, it's hard to tell this early.  There are a lot of games now that use wiimote as a gimmick.  It's only the worst games that use it as a gimmick, and I think there are a lot of nintendo haters that call it a gimmick just to emphasize the system's failings and ignore where it works.  Sure, the controls are tacked on twilight princess (gc port btw), but those controls work really well in certain respects.  The fact that the wii's only AAA is a mini game collection doesn't help either, because it portrays the wii as only good for minigames- which is not true.  I'll add that wiisports is sooo something nintendo would do, especially to bundle it in.

And i'll just add that the wii is not outside nintendo tradition.  They always explored weird techs and different ways to play games.  Eg. light gun, power glove, superscope, snes mouse, GB camera, ds, wii, virtual boy, even game&watch.  If anything the wii and ds are nintendo being more 'nintendo' than ever, after they've been humbled.  maybe they're too humbled! lol

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I wouldnt say im old school, but i owned nintendo consoles from the snes on up.

 

my thoughts: the wii is a very bad console with few games i care about, no online, bad graphics, and bad 3rd party support.

Rahnyc4

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Rather embarassing. The NES and SNES were great - tons of third party games (Mega Man, Final Fantasy, Contra, Castlevania, etc. etc.), the best first party games (Super Metroid, Super Mario World, ALTTP, etc. etc.) and didn't rely on a gimmick to sell the system (although the NES had a few gimmicks), but instead relied on good games.lazzordude

It is Gimmick and alot of casual with job will pay $250! Alot of friends and co-workers I know (Non-Gamer ones.) got a Wii because of the hype and Gimmick! 

Now before you start saying that I'm BS and normal people wouldnt waste $250 and such. Atleast from where I live, If you go out to have an OK dinner with your wife or girl friend; it will easily cost you well over $150 with drink! So $250 is really nothing for alot of people!

[QUOTE="lazzordude"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Rather embarassing. The NES and SNES were great - tons of third party games (Mega Man, Final Fantasy, Contra, Castlevania, etc. etc.), the best first party games (Super Metroid, Super Mario World, ALTTP, etc. etc.) and didn't rely on a gimmick to sell the system (although the NES had a few gimmicks), but instead relied on good games.ni6htmare01

It is Gimmick and alot of casual with job will pay $250! Alot of friends and co-workers I know (Non-Gamer ones.) got a Wii because of the hype and Gimmick!

Now before you start saying that I'm BS and normal people wouldnt waste $250 and such. Atleast from where I live, If you go out to have an OK dinner with your wife or girl friend; it will easily cost you well over $150 with drink! So $250 is really nothing for alot of people!

Nintendo has made the right moves as a company, and it's good to see their approach met so well by consumers.  That's about it for me, I'm glad that to see such a company do well.

Separate from that view, I'm glad one of the companies is trying something different with gaming.  The Wii suits my gaming tastes and will help my wife and I spend some quality gaming time together.  I hope it builds on what the DS has done for handhelds.  The best part that appeals to my oldschool side lies in the VC.

What are the thoughts of old-school NES and SNES fans, regarding the recent revival of Nintendo in the mainstream?

Lilac_Benjie

I think that with Nintendo, it's business as usual. Innovation has always been their trademark.

Rumble Pak? Nintendo. First thumb analog? Nintendo. Let's talk gimmicks. Who remembers Robby the Robot? The SUPERSCOPE! Nintendo has had it's share of flops, but they always try something new. Also there seems to be a tendancy for nintendo to push ENJOYABILITY over horsepower.

I've owned every Nintendo system, with the exception of the Gamecube, and it was nice to come back home with the Wii. MORE OVER, the Wii has capabilities via it's game downloads for me to access classic games. I think by and large, the Wii is a very good thing!

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[QUOTE="lazzordude"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Rather embarassing. The NES and SNES were great - tons of third party games (Mega Man, Final Fantasy, Contra, Castlevania, etc. etc.), the best first party games (Super Metroid, Super Mario World, ALTTP, etc. etc.) and didn't rely on a gimmick to sell the system (although the NES had a few gimmicks), but instead relied on good games.JackBurton28

It is Gimmick and alot of casual with job will pay $250! Alot of friends and co-workers I know (Non-Gamer ones.) got a Wii because of the hype and Gimmick!

Now before you start saying that I'm BS and normal people wouldnt waste $250 and such. Atleast from where I live, If you go out to have an OK dinner with your wife or girl friend; it will easily cost you well over $150 with drink! So $250 is really nothing for alot of people!

Not trying to say  is not entertaining. Is a fun system to have when you have  few friends over. But, I still believe it sells alot do to hype and Gimmick ( a very good Gimmick lol ), because like I said alot of non-gamers friends I know rush out and got one lol  

Is really good to see Nintendo come back with a force. They made some of the greatest game, but I just whish Wii has better graphic and stuff to match up against 360 and PS3.

Played the NES and the SNES like mad back in the day. 

I don't give a damn who's on top so long as there as good games to play on the system they make.  

Once a decent number of good games hit the Wii (and that simply hasn;t happened yet) I'll jump on the bandwagon, right now I could care less - not enough good games.

What are the thoughts of old-school NES and SNES fans, regarding the recent revival of Nintendo in the mainstream?

Lilac_Benjie

In all honesty I get a little giggly when I think about it.  I got this same giggly feeling recently when the Portland Trailblazers landed the #1 draft pick after being terrible for so long.  Thinking about either makes me smile uncontrollably.  When I say "giggle" I don't mean that I literally start giggling, but I get this internal feeling like giggling.

 I am definitely very happy for Nintendo.  I might have teared up a little bit had they gone the way of Sega as a software only company.  That would have been a very sad day indeed.

[QUOTE="freeload"]It's great!

I just wish the Wii was as satisfying and complete a system all round as the SNES was.Lilac_Benjie

It will be. SNES wasn't "complete" right away. 

I love it. The DS is my favorite handheld ever and the Wii is everything I could've hoped it to be.
The only problems I have with the Wii deal with third-party games. However, that's not Nintendo's fault that third parties decided to ignore the Wii at first, so I'll let it slide. 

The NES and SNES were great - tons of third party games (Mega Man, Final Fantasy, Contra, Castlevania, etc. etc.), the best first party games (Super Metroid, Super Mario World, ALTTP, etc. etc.) and didn't rely on a gimmick to sell the system (although the NES had a few gimmicks), but instead relied on good games.AHUGECAT

[QUOTE="lazzordude"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Rather embarassing. The NES and SNES were great - tons of third party games (Mega Man, Final Fantasy, Contra, Castlevania, etc. etc.), the best first party games (Super Metroid, Super Mario World, ALTTP, etc. etc.) and didn't rely on a gimmick to sell the system (although the NES had a few gimmicks), but instead relied on good games.AHUGECAT

It's selling so well because of the gimmick - while the Xbox 360 sells based on good games, Nintendo puts a poorly put together system with a primitive gyration controller and sells it for $250 (their most expensive console ever).

How is the wiimote primitive?  If the wiimote is primitive, then what exactly is the sixaxis?  The Sixaxis merely has tilt, the wiimote however has tilt, a pointing device, and an accelerometer... not to mention a second tilt enabled controller (AKA the nunchuk).  You really come off as a "fakeboy."

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"][QUOTE="freeload"]It's great!

I just wish the Wii was as satisfying and complete a system all round as the SNES was.springz300

It will be. SNES wasn't "complete" right away. 

and how long has it been :|

thats right 6 moths :|

I think anyone who complains about Nintendo simply doesn't have the right to.  They scream "bu bu I expect teh grafix from teh nex-gen!!!!", yet they ignore that there are not one, but TWO other consoles that deliver that.  They scream, "bu bu teh GIMMICK," yet they ignore that there are not one, but TWO other consoles that deliver standard controllers.  They scream, "bu bu I want teh decent online!!!," yet they ignore that there are not one, but TWO other consoles that deliver decent online right now.

But the bottom line is this: Nintendo is offering something different, and the fanboys are scared ****less that it's going to take over.  I don't blame them, they're scared for the same reasons old, fat, white republicans sitting in political offices are scared today: they're afraid of change.

I think anyone who complains about Nintendo simply doesn't have the right to.  They scream "bu bu I expect teh grafix from teh nex-gen!!!!", yet they ignore that there are not one, but TWO other consoles that deliver that.  They scream, "bu bu teh GIMMICK," yet they ignore that there are not one, but TWO other consoles that deliver standard controllers.  They scream, "bu bu I want teh decent online!!!," yet they ignore that there are not one, but TWO other consoles that deliver decent online right now.

But the bottom line is this: Nintendo is offering something different, and the fanboys are scared ****less that it's going to take over.  I don't blame them, they're scared for the same reasons old, fat, white republicans sitting in political offices are scared today: they're afraid of change.

Michael85

I agree with you a hundred percent.

imho its great overall. as a system its a pleasure to use. it has some great games (though it has its fair share of absolute rubbish too) and its doing things differently. withthe N64 and GC nintendo had lost the plot imho. i actually ignored the N64 as the games were more expensive and sony were offering a far more tempting proposition at the time (PS1 was sony at their finest imho). i only got a GC after it was out a few years.

however since iwata has taken over, thay have really gotten their act together. there actuall advertising (ive seen 2 DS and 1 wii add on the telly today...that more than either of the other 2 consoles). there going against the grain which i think is fantastic. the new controller is excellent overall (i have a few little gripes but nothing major). The DS is also a great handheld that really brings new opportunities to the arena.

at the mo the wii lacks top quality games (understandable really) and thats really its major weakness at the mo imho. froma processing perspective....the only thing i miss is the lack of dedicated physics hardware. if there was a PPU to compliment the CPU and GPU then it would be a really well rounded machine. detailed physics + wiimote and nunchuck=WOOHOO!!! imho.

but overall i think its great to see em doing well. they diserve it imho, they have really come out all guns blazing. i just hope they dont let the success get to their heads like it did before. 

What are the thoughts of old-school NES and SNES fans, regarding the recent revival of Nintendo in the mainstream?

Lilac_Benjie

Confused 

the Wii is selling alot but to be honest its not all that....had it on launch then sold it as the games are lame

party games are ok but most of the time gamers will be gaming in thire own...

nintendo is not what ot used to be.....

back in the day (snes) we had donkey kong, doubledragon,street of rage, a bunche of classic mario games, super punch out, flashback,another world, prince of persai etc

i boght it on launch cause of zelda and i had high hopes for controller and first party games

then...

the good games got delayed and the controller wasnt used to its potetial by developers

the graphics didnt bother me but the games did

nintendo is going for the non gamer and forgot about the gamers who cared....the ones that shared thire history

What are the thoughts of old-school NES and SNES fans, regarding the recent revival of Nintendo in the mainstream?

Lilac_Benjie

I've given up on The big N after the GC.:(

I think anyone who complains about Nintendo simply doesn't have the right to. They scream "bu bu I expect teh grafix from teh nex-gen!!!!", yet they ignore that there are not one, but TWO other consoles that deliver that. They scream, "bu bu teh GIMMICK," yet they ignore that there are not one, but TWO other consoles that deliver standard controllers. They scream, "bu bu I want teh decent online!!!," yet they ignore that there are not one, but TWO other consoles that deliver decent online right now.

But the bottom line is this: Nintendo is offering something different, and the fanboys are scared ****less that it's going to take over. I don't blame them, they're scared for the same reasons old, fat, white republicans sitting in political offices are scared today: they're afraid of change.

Michael85

[QUOTE="lazzordude"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Rather embarassing. The NES and SNES were great - tons of third party games (Mega Man, Final Fantasy, Contra, Castlevania, etc. etc.), the best first party games (Super Metroid, Super Mario World, ALTTP, etc. etc.) and didn't rely on a gimmick to sell the system (although the NES had a few gimmicks), but instead relied on good games.AHUGECAT

It's selling so well because of the gimmick - while the Xbox 360 sells based on good games, Nintendo puts a poorly put together system with a primitive gyration controller and sells it for $250 (their most expensive console ever).

Wait, you praise the 360, and call the Wii a poorly put together system in the same paragraph?  Well....we are in system wars...

[QUOTE="lazzordude"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Rather embarassing. The NES and SNES were great - tons of third party games (Mega Man, Final Fantasy, Contra, Castlevania, etc. etc.), the best first party games (Super Metroid, Super Mario World, ALTTP, etc. etc.) and didn't rely on a gimmick to sell the system (although the NES had a few gimmicks), but instead relied on good games.AHUGECAT

It's selling so well because of the gimmick - while the Xbox 360 sells based on good games, Nintendo puts a poorly put together system with a primitive gyration controller and sells it for $250 (their most expensive console ever).

No, they buy 360 games because of the eye candy grahics. Not because the games are good. They buy Wii games because they want to experience a new way to play games, not because the games are good...

As for nintendo, I'm very pleased on how they are handling themselves lately...