Meh, not interested in another gimmick from Nintendo. i5750at4GhzCooperative hardware for games isn't a gimmick.
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Meh, not interested in another gimmick from Nintendo. i5750at4GhzCooperative hardware for games isn't a gimmick.
Nintendo desperately needs 3rd party support though. Porting games is a cheap and easy way for 3rd parties to make inroads with the Ninty faithful.[QUOTE="getyeryayasout"][QUOTE="Mercenary848"]
This is good, but please dont flood it with ports.
Mercenary848
Your right, I guess I just do not want the Wii U to go the early wii route and the only good 3rd party games were ports.(I still need to play manhunt 2).
it needs the ports though. it has to be added to the multiplat pot. ninty need to get people onto the wiiu and keep them there. if, say, elder scrolls 6 doesnt come to the wiiu then people will just go to another platform for it. so it needs the ports to keep people on the system. it needs exclsuive content to entice people onto the system in the first place. nintys 1st party is formidable (its basically held the wii up on its own with some notable 3rd party efforts) but ninty are still going to need to make deals with 3rd parties for some sort of exclusivity...especially with the big games. the launch games will probably be close to straight ports. there launch games.....getting the game running with few bugs and out the door on time is the priority. hell with the 360 launch some games looked like just upscaled xbox 1 games. i dont think any launch PS3 games even bothered to use any of the SPEs in the cell. the RR that launched on it also looked like an upscaled PS2 game. so itll probably be a similar story with the wiiu. hell upscaled xenoblade may be a lunch title in the US for the wiiu :P.Why, because its Nintendo? It was easy for developers to port DS2, that and it has been said many times Wii U will be stronger than PS3.[QUOTE="Arbiterisl33t69"][QUOTE="AtariKidX"] Who do you know that...??It is hard for me to believe that.Mario1331
why would it be hard to believe a stronger system would have better graphics?.....are you joking?
Was that to me? Or was that a quoting mistake or what lol[QUOTE="Mario1331"][QUOTE="Arbiterisl33t69"] Why, because its Nintendo? It was easy for developers to port DS2, that and it has been said many times Wii U will be stronger than PS3. Arbiterisl33t69
why would it be hard to believe a stronger system would have better graphics?.....are you joking?
Was that to me? Or was that a quoting mistake or what lolquoting mistake my friend lol i suck at editing my post in junk
[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]Nintendo desperately needs 3rd party support though. Porting games is a cheap and easy way for 3rd parties to make inroads with the Ninty faithful.This is good, but please dont flood it with ports.
getyeryayasout
Ports are really the last thing it needs. The market is so oversatued with multiplats that a system getting a port is pretty irrevleant nowadays, espeically since most people who own Wiis probbaly got one of the HD twins as well. As I've been saying, it's in a rare situation where it needs third party exclusives more than it needs ports to say it has credible third-party support.
Great Nintendo has a port machine. If its really more powerful than PS3 and Xbox then it'll be a lazy ordeal THQ just saying "Oh it's ok it's got 1Gb RAM nevermind optimizing it!".JohnF111
And yet people complain here about Nintendo struggling with 3rd parties. You show a positive indication of improvement in that area...and you get criticised. Nintendo - you just can't win.hmmmm buy a new console to play games i can already play on my PS3/360
i think ill pass nintendo.
Golden_Boy187
[QUOTE="JohnF111"]Great Nintendo has a port machine. If its really more powerful than PS3 and Xbox then it'll be a lazy ordeal THQ just saying "Oh it's ok it's got 1Gb RAM nevermind optimizing it!".Ravensmash
And yet people complain here about Nintendo struggling with 3rd parties. You show a positive indication of improvement in that area...and you get criticised. Nintendo - you just can't win.hmmmm buy a new console to play games i can already play on my PS3/360
i think ill pass nintendo.
Golden_Boy187
The Wii should have been getting darksiders 2, thats why people complain. WiiU, a "next gen" console, getting a current gen port is nothing to cheer about.
If the WiiU really is next gen, it should be getting 3rd party heavey hitters built for it, which it won't. Instead it will get current gen ports until the 720/PS4, by which it will then be too weak for 3rd parties to bother with and will become a 1st party only machine again.
And yet people complain here about Nintendo struggling with 3rd parties. You show a positive indication of improvement in that area...and you get criticised. Nintendo - you just can't win.[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="JohnF111"] [QUOTE="Golden_Boy187"]
hmmmm buy a new console to play games i can already play on my PS3/360
i think ill pass nintendo.
RR360DD
The Wii should have been getting darksiders 2, thats why people complain. WiiU, a "next gen" console, getting a current gen port is nothing to cheer about.
If the WiiU really is next gen, it should be getting 3rd party heavey hitters built for it, which it won't. Instead it will get current gen ports until the 720/PS4, by which it will then be too weak for 3rd parties to bother with and will become a 1st party only machine again.
How do you know that. It could end up being a PS2 situation with third party's minus the incredibly high over 100 million consoles sales part.
[QUOTE="bluelf"][QUOTE="getyeryayasout"]Nintendo desperately needs 3rd party support though. Porting games is a cheap and easy way for 3rd parties to make inroads with the Ninty faithful. getyeryayasout
Ports are really the last thing it needs. The market is so oversatued with multiplats that a system getting a port is pretty irrevleant nowadays, espeically since most people who own Wiis probbaly got one of the HD twins as well. As I've been saying, it's in a rare situation where it needs third party exclusives more than it needs ports to say it has credible third-party support.
I get what you're saying, but it's hard to argue with the importance of multiplats when you look at how well the 360 has performed this gen.Much of the X360 sucess is at the expense of sony's stumbles, not because of the ports.
Sounds like the Wii U will get a lot of straight ports of Xbox 360 and PS3 versions. Not exactly what I would call great third party support.KC_HokieHow do you get "a lot of straight ports" from one example highlighting the ease of porting, on a system that isn't even fully unveiled yet?
[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Sounds like the Wii U will get a lot of straight ports of Xbox 360 and PS3 versions. Not exactly what I would call great third party support.RavensmashHow do you get "a lot of straight ports" from one example highlighting the ease of porting, on a system that isn't even fully unveiled yet?Do you really think developers for a year or so (until next Xbox and PS4) are going to actually develop separate versions for the Wii U?
the wiiU needs to have great exclusives for me to buy it (i dont play mario or kiddie games) along with a great online service. Iam not going to buy a
brand new console just to play multiplats.
[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Sounds like the Wii U will get a lot of straight ports of Xbox 360 and PS3 versions. Not exactly what I would call great third party support.KC_HokieHow do you get "a lot of straight ports" from one example highlighting the ease of porting, on a system that isn't even fully unveiled yet?Do you really think developers for a year or so (until next Xbox and PS4) are going to actually develop separate versions for the Wii U? Why does that matter if they take advantage of the hardware/controller, and is supplemented by a solid first party and 3rd party exclusive effort? The 360 did the same at the start of this gen for a while....worked out fine.
Exactly. And I would only buy a Wii U if a great MMO came out on it before a great MMO comes to the next Xbox or PS4.the wiiU needs to have great exclusives for me to buy it (i dont play mario or kiddie games) along with a great online service. Iam not going to buy a
brand new console just to play multiplats.
Golden_Boy187
[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"]How do you get "a lot of straight ports" from one example highlighting the ease of porting, on a system that isn't even fully unveiled yet?RavensmashDo you really think developers for a year or so (until next Xbox and PS4) are going to actually develop separate versions for the Wii U?Why does that matter if they take advantage of the hardware/controller, and is supplemented by a solid first party and 3rd party exclusive effort? The 360 did the same at the start of this gen for a while....worked out fine.The first year for Xbox 360 games were bad. Go back and play some. The Wii U is only going to get Xbox 360 and PS3 ports. And after the PS4 and next Xbox come out those will dry up.
How do you explain your avatar... and kiddy games? Please, again with this.. Pokemon's the kiddiest game ever and I have more fun with it than with Gears or COD.the wiiU needs to have great exclusives for me to buy it (i dont play mario or kiddie games) along with a great online service. Iam not going to buy a
brand new console just to play multiplats.
Golden_Boy187
[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Do you really think developers for a year or so (until next Xbox and PS4) are going to actually develop separate versions for the Wii U?KC_HokieWhy does that matter if they take advantage of the hardware/controller, and is supplemented by a solid first party and 3rd party exclusive effort? The 360 did the same at the start of this gen for a while....worked out fine.The first year for Xbox 360 games were bad. Go back and play some. The Wii U is only going to get Xbox 360 and PS3 ports. And after the PS4 and next Xbox come out those will dry up. Those "bad" games were still the best versions of multiplats. Your prediction is merely that - and you could say that for the PS4 or 720 if they were in the Wii-U's position. This is demonstrating that the console is incredibly easy to develop/port for, as Nintendo have said. And that can go a long way in fulfilling a strong 3rd party.
[QUOTE="Golden_Boy187"]How do you explain your avatar... and kiddy games? Please, again with this.. Pokemon's the kiddiest game ever and I have more fun with it than with Gears or COD.the wiiU needs to have great exclusives for me to buy it (i dont play mario or kiddie games) along with a great online service. Iam not going to buy a
brand new console just to play multiplats.
Arbiterisl33t69
I loved zelda back in the days
[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Why does that matter if they take advantage of the hardware/controller, and is supplemented by a solid first party and 3rd party exclusive effort? The 360 did the same at the start of this gen for a while....worked out fine.RavensmashThe first year for Xbox 360 games were bad. Go back and play some. The Wii U is only going to get Xbox 360 and PS3 ports. And after the PS4 and next Xbox come out those will dry up. Those "bad" games were still the best versions of multiplats. Your prediction is merely that - and you could say that for the PS4 or 720 if they were in the Wii-U's position. This is demonstrating that the console is incredibly easy to develop/port for, as Nintendo have said. And that can go a long way in fulfilling a strong 3rd party.It proves straight ports of PS3/Xbox 360 games are easy. That's all. And their 'third party support' will dry up once the next generation is truly released.
You really bought into Nintendo's 'third party' spiel, didn't you.
Those "bad" games were still the best versions of multiplats. Your prediction is merely that - and you could say that for the PS4 or 720 if they were in the Wii-U's position. This is demonstrating that the console is incredibly easy to develop/port for, as Nintendo have said. And that can go a long way in fulfilling a strong 3rd party.It proves straight ports of PS3/Xbox 360 games are easy. That's all. And their 'third party support' will dry up once the next generation is truly released.[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]The first year for Xbox 360 games were bad. Go back and play some. The Wii U is only going to get Xbox 360 and PS3 ports. And after the PS4 and next Xbox come out those will dry up.KC_Hokie
You really bought into Nintendo's 'third party' spiel, didn't you.
So how is this a bad thing? Would it be better for Nintendo if the developers said "porting the game is incredibly hard and takes 3/4 of the team"? I didn't buy in to anything, you just seem to be spinning a negative on a positive.Those "bad" games were still the best versions of multiplats. Your prediction is merely that - and you could say that for the PS4 or 720 if they were in the Wii-U's position. This is demonstrating that the console is incredibly easy to develop/port for, as Nintendo have said. And that can go a long way in fulfilling a strong 3rd party.It proves straight ports of PS3/Xbox 360 games are easy. That's all. And their 'third party support' will dry up once the next generation is truly released.[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]The first year for Xbox 360 games were bad. Go back and play some. The Wii U is only going to get Xbox 360 and PS3 ports. And after the PS4 and next Xbox come out those will dry up.KC_Hokie
You really bought into Nintendo's 'third party' spiel, didn't you.
lol, I'd love to borrow your crystal ball merlin. Is it fun pulling smoke out of nothing as though you know what the future holds at all?
It proves straight ports of PS3/Xbox 360 games are easy. That's all. And their 'third party support' will dry up once the next generation is truly released.[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]
[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Those "bad" games were still the best versions of multiplats. Your prediction is merely that - and you could say that for the PS4 or 720 if they were in the Wii-U's position. This is demonstrating that the console is incredibly easy to develop/port for, as Nintendo have said. And that can go a long way in fulfilling a strong 3rd party.WreckEm711
You really bought into Nintendo's 'third party' spiel, didn't you.
lol, I'd love to borrow your crystal ball merlin. Is it fun pulling smoke out of nothing as though you know what the future holds at all?
It's happened before to consoles caught in between generations.It proves straight ports of PS3/Xbox 360 games are easy. That's all. And their 'third party support' will dry up once the next generation is truly released.[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]
[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Those "bad" games were still the best versions of multiplats. Your prediction is merely that - and you could say that for the PS4 or 720 if they were in the Wii-U's position. This is demonstrating that the console is incredibly easy to develop/port for, as Nintendo have said. And that can go a long way in fulfilling a strong 3rd party.WreckEm711
You really bought into Nintendo's 'third party' spiel, didn't you.
lol, I'd love to borrow your crystal ball merlin. Is it fun pulling smoke out of nothing as though you know what the future holds at all?
He'd rather Wii-U be hard to develop for and turn away 3rd parties and multiplats. Complexity = brilliant.[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]It proves straight ports of PS3/Xbox 360 games are easy. That's all. And their 'third party support' will dry up once the next generation is truly released.[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] Those "bad" games were still the best versions of multiplats. Your prediction is merely that - and you could say that for the PS4 or 720 if they were in the Wii-U's position. This is demonstrating that the console is incredibly easy to develop/port for, as Nintendo have said. And that can go a long way in fulfilling a strong 3rd party.Ravensmash
You really bought into Nintendo's 'third party' spiel, didn't you.
So how is this a bad thing? Would it be better for Nintendo if the developers said "porting the game is incredibly hard and takes 3/4 of the team"? I didn't buy in to anything, you just seem to be spinning a negative on a positive.I suppose it's great if you don't own an Xbox 360 or PS3 AND don't care about 3rd party support drying up when the PS4/next Xbox arrive.Other than that it's awesome.
[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Meh, not interested in another gimmick from Nintendo. InfinityMugenCooperative hardware for games isn't a gimmick. Call it what you want, but a screen in a controller is a gimmick.
How do you explain your avatar... and kiddy games? Please, again with this.. Pokemon's the kiddiest game ever and I have more fun with it than with Gears or COD.[QUOTE="Arbiterisl33t69"][QUOTE="Golden_Boy187"]
the wiiU needs to have great exclusives for me to buy it (i dont play mario or kiddie games) along with a great online service. Iam not going to buy a
brand new console just to play multiplats.
Golden_Boy187
I loved zelda back in the days
Zelda is no more "kiddie" than it was before.[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Meh, not interested in another gimmick from Nintendo. i5750at4GhzCooperative hardware for games isn't a gimmick. Call it what you want, but a screen in a controller is a gimmick. What if it provides more control inputs on console games? What if I can use hotkeys and bring up my inventory without interrupting gameplay/pausing? Or if it displays extra information? That bad?
So how is this a bad thing? Would it be better for Nintendo if the developers said "porting the game is incredibly hard and takes 3/4 of the team"? I didn't buy in to anything, you just seem to be spinning a negative on a positive.I suppose it's great if you don't own an Xbox 360 or PS3 AND don't care about 3rd party support drying up when the PS4/next Xbox arrive.[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]It proves straight ports of PS3/Xbox 360 games are easy. That's all. And their 'third party support' will dry up once the next generation is truly released.
You really bought into Nintendo's 'third party' spiel, didn't you.
KC_Hokie
Other than that it's awesome.
I'm not sure developers would agree with you. Easy development = less resources, more time to add features, etc. and that easy porting would probably still apply to other systems too.[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Meh, not interested in another gimmick from Nintendo. i5750at4GhzCooperative hardware for games isn't a gimmick. Call it what you want, but a screen in a controller is a gimmick. Who cares? At least it won't hurt the gameplay like the Wii-Mote did.
[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]I suppose it's great if you don't own an Xbox 360 or PS3 AND don't care about 3rd party support drying up when the PS4/next Xbox arrive.[QUOTE="Ravensmash"] So how is this a bad thing? Would it be better for Nintendo if the developers said "porting the game is incredibly hard and takes 3/4 of the team"? I didn't buy in to anything, you just seem to be spinning a negative on a positive.Ravensmash
Other than that it's awesome.
I'm not sure developers would agree with you. Easy development = less resources, more time to add features, etc. and that easy porting would probably still apply to other systems too.You really think PS4/next Xbox games will be ported to the Wii U? Do you know how difficult that would be for every game.It simply doesn't happen for consoles caught in between generations (Dreamcast, Wii).
[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]I don't understand how pausing the game on tv to look down at your controller screen is progress. KC_HokieHotkeys aren't?There were hotkeys in Oblivion and I never had to look down at any tablet controller screen thing. How many hotkeys compared to PC? And how many...like 2/3?
[QUOTE="Golden_Boy187"][QUOTE="Arbiterisl33t69"] How do you explain your avatar... and kiddy games? Please, again with this.. Pokemon's the kiddiest game ever and I have more fun with it than with Gears or COD.93BlackHawk93
I loved zelda back in the days
Zelda is no more "kiddie" than it was before.and thats why i dont play it anymore
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