Time to accept the Wii for what it is: A glorified GC 1.5 gimmick

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#1 GodHatesYankees
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I believe anyone who feels as if the Wii will continue to be as successful a year from now is mistaken. Just like the GC, it has lackluster third-party support. When the Wiimote fad wears off, the population will see it for what it truly is: A gimmick. Nintendo wasn't kidding when they said they were not in direct competition with the other two consoles. Inferior hardware, online and games shows this. It simply does not have the lasting power of the other two consoles. How much of a lifespan do cooking and mini-games have anyway?

Go RED SOX!

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#2 ArisShadows
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The o' wait, its a fad, believe me line.

You know gimmicks are everywhere and become standard right?

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it seems the Red Sox needed love.
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#4 PoppaLemming
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You know those systems you can buy at the corner stores? You know the ones with the games built in the controller :lol: They come with hundreds of terrible, terrible games for only $50 bucks?

That's what the Wii is

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#5 HeHateMe_basic
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Youve been tricked by the Wii Witch Project!
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#6 ArisShadows
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One more thing, if you going to be speak, try to be knowledgeable of the system's game lineup. Yes cooking and minigame, lets see you mean Cooking Mama, oh wait thats just one game. Lets overlook every other game coming out, and ignore it and based it around a few minigames out there.
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....Wow, you are so insightful, your amazing "facts" have convinced me:roll:
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You know those systems you can buy at the corner stores? You know the ones with the games built in the controller :lol: They come with hundreds of terrible, terrible games for only $50 bucks?

That's what the Wii is

PoppaLemming
This is weak. even PS3_FTW puts up better flamebait then this
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#9 magiciandude
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I believe anyone who feels as if the Wii will continue to be as successful a year from now is mistaken.

GodHatesYankees

Stopped reading there.

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#10 magiciandude
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[QUOTE="PoppaLemming"]

You know those systems you can buy at the corner stores? You know the ones with the games built in the controller :lol: They come with hundreds of terrible, terrible games for only $50 bucks?

That's what the Wii is

Grasshopper_12

This is weak. even PS3_FTW puts up better flamebait then this

Yo_Foo > PS3_FTW>>>>>>>>> TC

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#11 benjaminjoel
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My answer to this is: Yes and no. The Wii's motion-sensing IS a fad... until developers learn to better implement it in their games. Soon, we will see the Wii have tons of quality third-party titles... and whoever was responsible for PS3 begging for cigarettes on the street. But still, I think the console war will be a tie between 360 and Wii.
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You know those systems you can buy at the corner stores? You know the ones with the games built in the controller :lol: They come with hundreds of terrible, terrible games for only $50 bucks?

That's what the Wii is

PoppaLemming

I believe anyone who feels as if the Wii will continue to be as successful a year from now is mistaken. Just like the GC, it has lackluster third-party support. When the Wiimote fad wears off, the population will see it for what it truly is: A gimmick. Nintendo wasn't kidding when they said they were not in direct competition with the other two consoles. Inferior hardware, online and games shows this. It simply does not have the lasting power of the other two consoles. How much of a lifespan do cooking and mini-games have anyway?

Go RED SOX!

GodHatesYankees

Hmmm, wasn't this fad supposed to wear off over 7 months ago? I still see "Sold Out" signs for the Wii. And how do you call a 100% new way of controlling games a "gimmick"? If anything, the Sixaxis is a gimick. HEY LOOK I CAN TURN THE CAR WHEEL LOL. And for the record, the Wii doesn't need to have a 6 year life span. I would assume it's going to be about 4, with Nintendo throwing the first blow into the next gen.
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A year from now, the Wii will be selling better than any other console....still.

Why? Because it appeals to a MUCH larger demographic (2% hardcore anyone?), and its affordable. It will also have some stellar games to boot.

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You know those systems you can buy at the corner stores? You know the ones with the games built in the controller :lol: They come with hundreds of terrible, terrible games for only $50 bucks?

That's what the Wii is

PoppaLemming

That's just wrong. There is alot of good games in those controllers.

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#15 liquidShake
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My answer to this is: Yes and no. The Wii's motion-sensing IS a fad... until developers learn to better implement it in their games. Soon, we will see the Wii have tons of quality third-party titles... and whoever was responsible for PS3 begging for cigarettes on the street. But still, I think the console war will be a tie between 360 and Wii.benjaminjoel

Most thought-out post in the pile of biased jabber that is this thread.

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#16 IronMaidenLives
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A year from now, the Wii will be selling better than any other console....still.

Why? Because it appeals to a MUCH larger demographic (2% hardcore anyone?), and its affordable. It will also have some stellar games to boot.

gromit007

Got a link for that stat?

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#17 gromit007
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[QUOTE="gromit007"]

A year from now, the Wii will be selling better than any other console....still.

Why? Because it appeals to a MUCH larger demographic (2% hardcore anyone?), and its affordable. It will also have some stellar games to boot.

IronMaidenLives

Got a link for that stat?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6173525.html

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I believe anyone who feels as if the Wii will continue to be as successful a year from now is mistaken. Just like the GC, it has lackluster third-party support. When the Wiimote fad wears off, the population will see it for what it truly is: A gimmick. Nintendo wasn't kidding when they said they were not in direct competition with the other two consoles. Inferior hardware, online and games shows this. It simply does not have the lasting power of the other two consoles. How much of a lifespan do cooking and mini-games have anyway?

Go RED SOX!

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*slap*

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[QUOTE="PoppaLemming"]

You know those systems you can buy at the corner stores? You know the ones with the games built in the controller :lol: They come with hundreds of terrible, terrible games for only $50 bucks?

That's what the Wii is

Cpt_Meh

I believe anyone who feels as if the Wii will continue to be as successful a year from now is mistaken. Just like the GC, it has lackluster third-party support. When the Wiimote fad wears off, the population will see it for what it truly is: A gimmick. Nintendo wasn't kidding when they said they were not in direct competition with the other two consoles. Inferior hardware, online and games shows this. It simply does not have the lasting power of the other two consoles. How much of a lifespan do cooking and mini-games have anyway?

Go RED SOX!

GodHatesYankees


Hmmm, wasn't this fad supposed to wear off over 7 months ago? I still see "Sold Out" signs for the Wii. And how do you call a 100% new way of controlling games a "gimmick"? If anything, the Sixaxis is a gimick. HEY LOOK I CAN TURN THE CAR WHEEL LOL. And for the record, the Wii doesn't need to have a 6 year life span. I would assume it's going to be about 4, with Nintendo throwing the first blow into the next gen.

Let me guess.....you would call it innovative, right?

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#20 IronMaidenLives
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[QUOTE="IronMaidenLives"][QUOTE="gromit007"]

A year from now, the Wii will be selling better than any other console....still.

Why? Because it appeals to a MUCH larger demographic (2% hardcore anyone?), and its affordable. It will also have some stellar games to boot.

gromit007

Got a link for that stat?

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6173525.html

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#21 minox2109
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at the moment... the wii is a fad.. n isnt gonna last.. but i think wii still has a chance if nintendo creats some good exclusives...
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[QUOTE="Cpt_Meh"][QUOTE="PoppaLemming"]

You know those systems you can buy at the corner stores? You know the ones with the games built in the controller :lol: They come with hundreds of terrible, terrible games for only $50 bucks?

That's what the Wii is

IronMaidenLives

I believe anyone who feels as if the Wii will continue to be as successful a year from now is mistaken. Just like the GC, it has lackluster third-party support. When the Wiimote fad wears off, the population will see it for what it truly is: A gimmick. Nintendo wasn't kidding when they said they were not in direct competition with the other two consoles. Inferior hardware, online and games shows this. It simply does not have the lasting power of the other two consoles. How much of a lifespan do cooking and mini-games have anyway?

Go RED SOX!

GodHatesYankees


Hmmm, wasn't this fad supposed to wear off over 7 months ago? I still see "Sold Out" signs for the Wii. And how do you call a 100% new way of controlling games a "gimmick"? If anything, the Sixaxis is a gimick. HEY LOOK I CAN TURN THE CAR WHEEL LOL. And for the record, the Wii doesn't need to have a 6 year life span. I would assume it's going to be about 4, with Nintendo throwing the first blow into the next gen.

Let me guess.....you would call it innovative, right?


The controller? Yes it's innovative. I didn't see MS or Sony come out with a motion/infrared based controller. Or two seperate controllers that can be joined either. People seem to think just because many games don't fully utilize the controller, it's a gimmick. The controller itself is innovative, it's just the devs that aren't BEING innovative while developing for it.
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#23 TacoJelly
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But the Wii is getting more 3rd party support than the GC, and the Wiimote hasn't even really been used to it's full extent. And there is NOTHING weaker about the online except that the Wii is WiFi only (which isn't a dissadvantage at all), and their friend codes are already seeing games bypass them (i.e. Madden).

And how long do gimmics (like a new controller or new graphics) last? about 5 years or so right? what's the problem?

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#24 Zerostatic0
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How much of a lifespan do cooking and mini-games have anyway?GodHatesYankees
How many cooking games are out on the Wii? Last time I checked it was just 1. So you're saying that you can categorize a system's library based on one game. So for example can I say, the 360 is doomed, how much lifespan do Burger King games have anyway? I mean there are 3 times as many Burger King 360 games as there are Wii Cooking games.
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#25 Grive
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Isn't this kinda the same argument against the DS back when it launched?

Why, yes it is!

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#26 PoppaLemming
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Isn't this kinda the same argument against the DS back when it launched?

Why, yes it is!

Grive

That was the DS

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#27 ramen613
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at the moment... the wii is a fad.. n isnt gonna last.. but i think wii still has a chance if nintendo creats some good exclusives...minox2109
there are already good exclusives like smg ssbb mp3:c no more heros zack and wiki bw2 re:uc dq:s sc:l tales wii disaster saddness dragon blade etc
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#28 monkeysrfat
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What the hell is the ps3 when wii is known as a fad?
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#29 gromit007
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What the hell is the ps3 when wii is known as a fad?monkeysrfat

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I believe anyone who feels as if the Wii will continue to be as successful a year from now is mistaken. Just like the GC, it has lackluster third-party support. When the Wiimote fad wears off, the population will see it for what it truly is: A gimmick. Nintendo wasn't kidding when they said they were not in direct competition with the other two consoles. Inferior hardware, online and games shows this. It simply does not have the lasting power of the other two consoles. How much of a lifespan do cooking and mini-games have anyway?

Go RED SOX!

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I can picture the Wii being an infomercial on TV. You know, one of those commercials where they always say "Wait, there's more!" It'd be like, "Do you wish you could play video games just by simply waving the controller in the air? Well now you can! Introducing the Nintendo Wii, a video game console designed for the entertainment of your friends and family. Its superior graphic quality and innovative controls will amaze you! Now parties will never be boring! Just turn the console on, and Wiiiiiiii! You'll be having the best time of your life! Bowl, golf, box, and even play tennis in the comfort of your own home! (Shows amazed woman with hands clasped over face, camera zooms in and out). All this for the incredible price of $19.95! Yes, only $19.95! And if you call in the next fifteen minutes, you'll also receive an extra Wii-mote and Nunchuck! Absolutely free! Just call 1-800-MEWANTWII to place your order. This is the best product out there! You don't know what you're missing! The Nintendo Wii, just turn it on, and.....Wiiiiiii!!!"

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#32 h0wtehnub
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[QUOTE="Grive"]

Isn't this kinda the same argument against the DS back when it launched?

Why, yes it is!

PoppaLemming

That was the DS

I dont think i was visiting SW when the DS came out, but ill assume that the DS was called a gimmick because of its touch/dual screen and people will realise this sooner or later?

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#33 Hoffgod
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Except the GCN lost 3rd party support over time. The Wii has gained it. Bit of a difference, wouldn't you agree?
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#34 curono
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I believe anyone who feels as if the Wii will continue to be as successful a year from now is mistaken. Just like the GC, it has lackluster third-party support. When the Wiimote fad wears off, the population will see it for what it truly is: A gimmick. Nintendo wasn't kidding when they said they were not in direct competition with the other two consoles. Inferior hardware, online and games shows this. It simply does not have the lasting power of the other two consoles. How much of a lifespan do cooking and mini-games have anyway?

Go RED SOX!

GodHatesYankees

oh my god. Another wii troll.. Gee... this is a new thing on this forum.. Move along, move along...

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I believe anyone who feels as if the Wii will continue to be as successful a year from now is mistaken. Just like the GC, it has lackluster third-party support. When the Wiimote fad wears off, the population will see it for what it truly is: A gimmick. Nintendo wasn't kidding when they said they were not in direct competition with the other two consoles. Inferior hardware, online and games shows this. It simply does not have the lasting power of the other two consoles. How much of a lifespan do cooking and mini-games have anyway?

Go RED SOX!

GodHatesYankees

You are aware that video games were considered a fad back in the Atari 2600 days. Hell, some people still consider gaming a fad, and would never touch a game system.

But suppose a football fan has never touched a game system in his life, and yet he sees Madden playing on the Wii. He tries it, and enjoys because it feels more natural than simply having a control pad in his hand pushing buttons. Now, this man would never try the PS3 and 360 versions because he takes a look at the controller and feels that its too complex.

But with the Wii, the market was expanded and added people who would normally avoid games. To me, thats a good thing. Yes, there will be mini game collections, but there will still be deep, engrossing games on the Wii.

Look at the DS and tell me how many cooking and mini game collections you see on the system. And yet, its home to Final Fantasy III, Final Fantasy IV, Dragon Quest IX and even a new Ninja Gaiden game.

Yes, there is a game drought right now, but to say the Wii is a mini-game wasteland is a horrible insult to the system. Its already selling more than the Gamecube did at this point, so I say its only a matter of time before we see a large amount of new games.

To think graphics are everything is a sad way to view gaming. It also takes a mix of good gameplay and a compelling storyline to make a game feel complete.

And to me, I value a good story and excellent gameplay above all else.