Time to SQUARE off: 360's Infinite Undiscovery vs. PS3's Final Fantasy XIII

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#1 nervmeister
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To complicate things, both upcoming titles happen to be the dream children of Square Enix. And both seem to show plenty of promise for RPG fans and graphics-lovers alike. So I'd like to take this opportunity with all of you to speculate about which of these two Enix creations will be superior graphic-wise, story-wise, music-wise, and gameplay-wise. Let the discussion begin.
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#2 OXIIIIXO
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Most of the games they have created didn't do as well as their main series, so I'm gonna give it to FFXIII.
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#3 user_nat
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Even though I hate the series.. Final Fantasy will probably be the better JRPG.
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#4 plainoldsam
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IU has a lot of potential, but I think FFXIII will be better.
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#5 Gamer46
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I'm actually more interested in IU because it's something different and it's being designed for the 360. Square has traditionally only supported the Japanese companies and it will be interesting to see what they deliver on a console that is definitely geared more toward the Western audience. That said, the safe bet is on FF XIII being the better game. I'm not a huge FF fan, but I'm sure the game will deliver what fans of the series expect.
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#6 Chutebox
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Final Fantasy always.
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#7 adastos
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Since FF is what kept square alive I bet they are going to put more into FFXIII then IU

Graphics: FFXIII

Story: FFXIII

Music: Up in the air because Uematsu isn't the official composer T_T

Gameplay: Have yet to see FFXIII actual gameplay, so it is undecided as well, but FFs usually have great fighting system

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#8 ImaPirate0202
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Final Fantasy always.Chutebox

agreed

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They both suck, JRPGs are dying... Oblivion proved it, Mass Effect will prove it again.

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They both suck, JRPGs are dying... Oblivion proved it, Mass Effect will prove it again.

ByFly

The only thing that Oblivion has proven is that a game with weak combat can still be AAA.

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#11 axes03
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They BOTH suck!!! Masseffect and Fallout3 will destroy those **** jrpgs.
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#12 Blue-Sky
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FF is a proven series thats been around for decades. Of course, the safer pick would be FF13 when compared to a brand new IP. You should of pitched it towards WKS for a fair comparison

If you ask me though, I'm more interested in IU since I already know FF will do well.

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#13 Puckhog04
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I'm guessing most will say FFXIII to be safe. Probably a good idea for most.

I like to live dangerously though so...

Infinite Undiscovery. :shock:

I like new IP's. It looks great IMO. FF is same old same old to me. Hopefully both are great though.

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FF is a proven series thats been around for decades. Of course, the safer pick would be FF13 when compared to a brand new IP. You should of pitched it towards WKS for a fair comparison

If you ask me though, I'm more interested in IU since I already know FF will do well.

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I wouldnt getmy hopes up about White Knight Story if I were you. From the gameplay vids I saw here, I'm not really impressed at all by the combat.
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#15 OremLK
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Infinite Undiscovery will amost definitely be better, since it sounds like player choice will actually matter within the game. The greatest fault of JRPGs is how much "on rails" they feel; there really isn't much room for character customization in most of them, and there's even less room for making decisions that impact the story.

Besides, Final Fantasy has always been overrated, and by now it's so stagnant as to be worthy of nothing but scorn.

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#16 dooly420
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square isn't devolping IU. they're only publishing it.
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IU might end up being the better game in the end but as we all know FFXlll would still end up selling more copies than IU,hell SE could put dirt in a bag and label it FFXlll and it will still sell.

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[QUOTE="ByFly"]

They both suck, JRPGs are dying... Oblivion proved it, Mass Effect will prove it again.

OXIIIIXO

The only thing that Oblivion has proven is that a game with weak combat can still be AAA.

:lol:

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They BOTH suck!!! Masseffect and Fallout3 will destroy those **** jrpgs.axes03

MassEffect will sell more than FFXlll?:lol:

Hey I don't even like RPGS and even i find that hard to believe

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[QUOTE="axes03"]They BOTH suck!!! Masseffect and Fallout3 will destroy those **** jrpgs.sakura_Ex

MassEffect will sell more than FFXlll?:lol:

Hey I don't even like RPGS and even i find that hard to believe

It most definitely will, due to the 360's higher install base, higher attach rate, the large amount of hype the game has gotten, and its fundamental marketability to the Halo core.

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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

FF is a proven series thats been around for decades. Of course, the safer pick would be FF13 when compared to a brand new IP. You should of pitched it towards WKS for a fair comparison

If you ask me though, I'm more interested in IU since I already know FF will do well.

nervmeister

I wouldnt getmy hopes up about White Knight Story if I were you. From the gameplay vids I saw here, I'm not really impressed at all by the combat.

I can't remember the last time I was ever"impressed" by a JRPG....BoF4 maybe? Anyway I was only suggesting what would be a better comparisonsince bothIU and WKS are new IPs being developed by 2 popular JRPG devs other than SE.

No one would pick IU unless they wanted something new other than ye 'ol FF grind.

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#22 sakura_Ex
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[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

[QUOTE="axes03"]They BOTH suck!!! Masseffect and Fallout3 will destroy those **** jrpgs.OremLK

MassEffect will sell more than FFXlll?:lol:

Hey I don't even like RPGS and even i find that hard to believe

It most definitely will, due to the 360's higher install base, higher attach rate, the large amount of hype the game has gotten, and its fundamental marketability to the Halo core.

You just threw Japan and Europe out the window huh?

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[QUOTE="OremLK"][QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

[QUOTE="axes03"]They BOTH suck!!! Masseffect and Fallout3 will destroy those **** jrpgs.sakura_Ex

MassEffect will sell more than FFXlll?:lol:

Hey I don't even like RPGS and even i find that hard to believe

It most definitely will, due to the 360's higher install base, higher attach rate, the large amount of hype the game has gotten, and its fundamental marketability to the Halo core.

You just threw Japan and Europe out the window huh?

why dont you guys take a bet on it? ;) It would be the longest bet in SW history but who cares.

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[QUOTE="OremLK"][QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

[QUOTE="axes03"]They BOTH suck!!! Masseffect and Fallout3 will destroy those **** jrpgs.sakura_Ex

MassEffect will sell more than FFXlll?:lol:

Hey I don't even like RPGS and even i find that hard to believe

It most definitely will, due to the 360's higher install base, higher attach rate, the large amount of hype the game has gotten, and its fundamental marketability to the Halo core.

You just threw Japan and Europe out the window huh?

FF will sell better in Japan, but the user base there is a fraction of the one in USA. Mass Effect and FF will probably sell pretty equally in Europe. So worldwide, I think Mass Effect will sell significantly better.

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In the past Square made some rpgs that imo were better then the FF counterpart.

example:

Chrono Trigger > Final Fantasy VI (very close)

Xenogears > FFVIII

Chrono Cross > FFIX

I might be off, but I'm pretty sure these games came out very close to eachother also.

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[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"][QUOTE="OremLK"][QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

[QUOTE="axes03"]They BOTH suck!!! Masseffect and Fallout3 will destroy those **** jrpgs.OremLK

MassEffect will sell more than FFXlll?:lol:

Hey I don't even like RPGS and even i find that hard to believe

It most definitely will, due to the 360's higher install base, higher attach rate, the large amount of hype the game has gotten, and its fundamental marketability to the Halo core.

You just threw Japan and Europe out the window huh?

FF will sell better in Japan, but the user base there is a fraction of the one in USA. Mass Effect and FF will probably sell pretty equally in Europe. So worldwide, I think Mass Effect will sell significantly better.

How will it sell better worldwide when it doesn't cater to the Japanese people's taste ?

Last time I checked worldwide meant everywhere in the world not just USA and Europe.

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#27 OremLK
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[QUOTE="OremLK"][QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

You just threw Japan and Europe out the window huh?

sakura_Ex

FF will sell better in Japan, but the user base there is a fraction of the one in USA. Mass Effect and FF will probably sell pretty equally in Europe. So worldwide, I think Mass Effect will sell significantly better.

How will it sell better worldwide when it doesn't cater to the Japanese people's taste ?

Last time I checked worldwide meant everywhere in the world not just USA and Europe.

Worldwide means that it well sell more copies overall. I thought that was obvious? I never claimed it would outsell the FF series in every region individually.

EDITED for reduction of quote block.

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#28 sakura_Ex
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[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"][QUOTE="OremLK"][QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

[QUOTE="axes03"]They BOTH suck!!! Masseffect and Fallout3 will destroy those **** jrpgs.exiledsnake

MassEffect will sell more than FFXlll?:lol:

Hey I don't even like RPGS and even i find that hard to believe

It most definitely will, due to the 360's higher install base, higher attach rate, the large amount of hype the game has gotten, and its fundamental marketability to the Halo core.

You just threw Japan and Europe out the window huh?

why dont you guys take a bet on it? ;) It would be the longest bet in SW history but who cares.

I don't make online bets, and besides what will I gain if I make a bet online?,virtual money?

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#29 -Serpahim-
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No contest Final fantasy. Its like saying "what going to be better Zone of Enders 3 or MGS4?"
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#30 exiledsnake
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I don't make online bets, and besides what will I gain if I make a bet online?,virtual money?

sakura_Ex

oh ok, guess you're new around here....

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No contest Final fantasy. Its like saying "what going to be better Zone of Enders 3 or MGS4?"-Serpahim-

I hope they do make a ZOE 3

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#32 sakura_Ex
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[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"][QUOTE="OremLK"][QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

You just threw Japan and Europe out the window huh?

OremLK

FF will sell better in Japan, but the user base there is a fraction of the one in USA. Mass Effect and FF will probably sell pretty equally in Europe. So worldwide, I think Mass Effect will sell significantly better.

How will it sell better worldwide when it doesn't cater to the Japanese people's taste ?

Last time I checked worldwide meant everywhere in the world not just USA and Europe.

Worldwide means that it well sell more copies overall. I thought that was obvious? I never claimed it would outsell the FF series in every region individually.

EDITED for reduction of quote block.

Either way FFXlll will sell more copies,not because it's good but because it's "FF".FF is like the RPG version of the Halo series( overhyped but loved by many ).

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No contest Final fantasy. Its like saying "what going to be better Zone of Enders 3 or MGS4?"-Serpahim-

That's a damn hard choice, actually.

As for OP, FFXIII. While I doubt Squenix will actually deliver on the AC-quality battles, their claims of doing so is enough to get me hyped up.

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[QUOTE="-Serpahim-"]No contest Final fantasy. Its like saying "what going to be better Zone of Enders 3 or MGS4?"pcplusps3ownall

I hope they do make a ZOE 3

Me too.

[QUOTE="-Serpahim-"]No contest Final fantasy. Its like saying "what going to be better Zone of Enders 3 or MGS4?"-Skyfall

That's a damn hard choice, actually.

As for OP, FFXIII. While I doubt Squenix will actually deliver on the AC-quality battles, their claims of doing so is enough to get me hyped up.

true...its up to personal taste, but u can be sure Konami will put more resources, time, money and staff on MGS4.

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FFXIII - it's the reason I have a PS3.
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#37 ByFly
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[QUOTE="ByFly"]

They both suck, JRPGs are dying... Oblivion proved it, Mass Effect will prove it again.

OXIIIIXO

The only thing that Oblivion has proven is that a game with weak combat can still be AAA.

The combat in JRPG are fun??

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[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"][QUOTE="OremLK"][QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

You just threw Japan and Europe out the window huh?

OremLK

FF will sell better in Japan, but the user base there is a fraction of the one in USA. Mass Effect and FF will probably sell pretty equally in Europe. So worldwide, I think Mass Effect will sell significantly better.

How will it sell better worldwide when it doesn't cater to the Japanese people's taste ?

Last time I checked worldwide meant everywhere in the world not just USA and Europe.

Worldwide means that it well sell more copies overall. I thought that was obvious? I never claimed it would outsell the FF series in every region individually.

EDITED for reduction of quote block.

FF sells very well over here and in Europe. Mass Effect will only be for the Bioware supporters, I'll say around 4 million total in it's lifetime for it and way more for FF13.

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[QUOTE="sakura_Ex"][QUOTE="OremLK"][QUOTE="sakura_Ex"]

You just threw Japan and Europe out the window huh?

OremLK

FF will sell better in Japan, but the user base there is a fraction of the one in USA. Mass Effect and FF will probably sell pretty equally in Europe. So worldwide, I think Mass Effect will sell significantly better.

How will it sell better worldwide when it doesn't cater to the Japanese people's taste ?

Last time I checked worldwide meant everywhere in the world not just USA and Europe.

Worldwide means that it well sell more copies overall. I thought that was obvious? I never claimed it would outsell the FF series in every region individually.

EDITED for reduction of quote block.

I know I'm going to sound like a "fanboy", but I'll be surprised if ME sells within 1mil of FFXIII.

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#40 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="ByFly"]

They both suck, JRPGs are dying... Oblivion proved it, Mass Effect will prove it again.

ByFly

The only thing that Oblivion has proven is that a game with weak combat can still be AAA.

The combat in JRPG are fun??

I really haven't played very many jrpgs, but I love the combat in FF series(excluding XII) and Xenogears.

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#41 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="-Serpahim-"]No contest Final fantasy. Its like saying "what going to be better Zone of Enders 3 or MGS4?"-Skyfall

That's a damn hard choice, actually.

As for OP, FFXIII. While I doubt Squenix will actually deliver on the AC-quality battles, their claims of doing so is enough to get me hyped up.

AC-quality? AC being?

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They both suck, JRPGs are dying... Oblivion proved it, Mass Effect will prove it again.

ByFly

wat????

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#43 ff7isnumbaone
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[QUOTE="ByFly"]

They both suck, JRPGs are dying... Oblivion proved it, Mass Effect will prove it again.

OXIIIIXO

The only thing that Oblivion has proven is that a game with weak combat can still be AAA.

god oblivion for the pc was boring. plus need a 8600gts+ to get good frame rates

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#44 -Skyfall
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AC-quality? AC being?

Chutebox

Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children.

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#45 plainoldsam
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AC-quality? AC being?Chutebox
Advent Children.
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#46 Chutebox
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Ah, ok thanks.

I was thinking Assassin's Creed, but thought that made no sense....Seems I was right!

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#47 starfxxxer
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]Final Fantasy always.ImaPirate0202

agreed

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In the past Square made some rpgs that imo were better then the FF counterpart.

example:

Chrono Trigger > Final Fantasy VI (very close)

Xenogears > FFVIII

Chrono Cross > FFIX

I might be off, but I'm pretty sure these games came out very close to eachother also.

7thSIN

Chrono Trigger > Final Fantasy VI (very close) Agreed

Xenogears > FFVIII GASP*cringes*

Chrono Cross > FFIXAgreed

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#49 NaiKoN9293
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ff 13 of course
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#50 blacktorn
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FFXIII will most likely be the best jrpg this gen,which outrules IU