Tired Game Cliche's You Want To Reverse Or Get Rid Of ?

I'd like to get rid of anything seen in a Tom Clancy Game.

or how about a Game set in Vietnam, where the local population try to flush out the marauding soldiers from the USA?

or a game where the Argentinian government sets out to bring the US-funded Cocaine growers to justice ?

cheesy character/enemy names; psycho, chimera, heavies, locust.

and random pointless ones like 'Soap' (cod4).

Tom Clancy games have become barstardised generic titles in recent years.

We need a sequal to Raven Shield , or the original Ghost Recon

No more Metrosexuals in JRPGs...Aljosa23

JRPG's in general have become a cliche themselves.

"You can do it!"

"I'll never give up!"

"belive in yourself!"

etc etc etc, phrases you'll find in every one of them, as well as the half-arsed and obvious love theme.

This goes hand in hand with the aforementioned LADYBOY protagonists with ridiculous, gravity defying hair and a sword that is twice the size of them. It's funny when the inevitable 'love scene' occurs in a JRPG, looks a little GIRL ON GIRL...

Happy endings in 98% of games. Not everything ends happy you knowski11buzz

-More Voice acting, especially in nintendo games

-BETTER voice acting

-Stupidly long and poitless tutorials

- Change stealth game controls to actually be good.

[QUOTE="ski11buzz"]Happy endings in 98% of games. Not everything ends happy you knowRagashahs

Heavenly Sword didn't have a happy ending and Assassins Creed was like wtf!! so i can consider it happy.FFVII was a really sad ending. The last samurai didn't have a happy ending.Any Edger Alan Poe stories didn't have a happy ending.

The ending for the book/movie/games is nto entirally happy but its fulfilling (expt Assassins creed) Happy endings is cuz most people now a days cant stand a truthful story i mean look at Harry potter, he should have died or at least his 2 best friends should have,she must have been on crack when she wrote that.

Back to topic

- Aliens in an FPS

-Countless mini-games does not justify calling it a game and selling it at full price(i am looking at at you wii)

Females who only ever fall into 2 categories. A) Uber sexy, feeble mega idiots that need to be saved every two minutes from whatever villain has apparently stolen her clothes, or B) They go to the other extreme, Ultra mega badass who can dismember 6 men with little more than the standard angry glance and has forgotten all feminine traits and behaviours to become a machine like killing expert, whose only response to flirting from men is to kick him swiftly in the nizzuts.

Quicktime Events NEED TO GO NOW FOREVER. Make your mind up developers, are we watching a cutscene or stomping through more repetitive gameplay? I have no idea who thought this was a good idea or why, but they should be shot.

Also 2 things I noticed while playing through Soldier of Fortune Payback. First, the story of "get the supposedly evil guy who killed some dude, and I need to butcher HUNDREDS of people to get to him to tell him what a bad person HE is", and the thing where villains stun you in some way to give plot exposition and then escape leaving you to recover instead of just shooting you and eating your flesh in morbid victory.

[QUOTE="ski11buzz"]Happy endings in 98% of games. Not everything ends happy you knowRagashahs

Oh heck yes. I want a game that ends with a choice, the choice is either you shoot yourself and the baddy loses and so do you or the baddy wins and you live but fail.

Now that would be one hell of an ending, cue operatic overture and pan to insignificance of your actions.

Barrels are unacceptable, either.

I'd like to get rid of anything seen in a Tom Clancy Game.

or how about a Game set in Vietnam, where the local population try to flush out the marauding soldiers from the USA?

or a game where the Argentinian government sets out to bring the US-funded Cocaine growers to justice ?

BambooBanger

I want to see some more creativity. No more superhuman characters in FPS's running through linear levels blowing through enemy after enemy that is supposed to be your equal. No more RPG's where you're some amnesiac that runs into cliched plot-twist after cliched plot-twist while a series of deeply troubled individuals randomly join up with you. No more "deep moral decisions" that boil down to nothing more than "do you want the good ending or the bad ending?"

I want to see games with Stalker's open ended gameplay, where its up to you how to approach your objective. Games with Mass Effect's morality system where you're not choosing a good ending or bad ending, but what actions you'll take to complete your mission. Games where your character isn't a saint. I wanna live Marge, why won't you let me live!

The Hollywood-esque glorification of WW2.

And Chicken for health powerups.

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"][QUOTE="ski11buzz"]Happy endings in 98% of games. Not everything ends happy you knowHoobinator

Oh heck yes. I want a game that ends with a choice, the choice is either you shoot yourself and the baddy loses and so do you or the baddy wins and you live but fail.

Now that would be one hell of an ending, cue operatic overture and pan to insignificance of your actions.

that is like mgs1 where u get to chhose whether ur girl dies

[QUOTE="BambooBanger"]

I'd like to get rid of anything seen in a Tom Clancy Game.

or how about a Game set in Vietnam, where the local population try to flush out the marauding soldiers from the USA?

or a game where the Argentinian government sets out to bring the US-funded Cocaine growers to justice ?

musicalmac

Actually it has plenty to do with gaming. :|

All those shooters being released every year now, flooding the market, and most have you playing as some military american jock fighting some bad dudes over there. It's THE cliche of the modern times. Would it be too much to ask to change things up or at least not present the games in such bold black and white terms, we're good, you're bad, we shoot, kill you, we win.

[QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"][QUOTE="ski11buzz"]Happy endings in 98% of games. Not everything ends happy you knowIchigo_Ban_Kai

Oh heck yes. I want a game that ends with a choice, the choice is either you shoot yourself and the baddy loses and so do you or the baddy wins and you live but fail.

Now that would be one hell of an ending, cue operatic overture and pan to insignificance of your actions.

that is like mgs1 where u get to chhose whether ur girl dies

MGS1 doesn't end with Snake dying, or Liquid Snake winning.

The Hollywood-esque glorification of WW2.

And Chicken for health powerups.

gingerdivid

Too true. War is damn terrifying for everyone involved. These supposedly "realistic" shooters are presenting a grossly misleading take on it. They're Rambo simulators not a depiction of war.

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"]

The Hollywood-esque glorification of WW2.

And Chicken for health powerups.

Hoobinator

Too true. War is damn terrifying for everyone involved. These supposedly "realistic" shooters are presenting a grossly misleading take on it. They're Rambo simulators not a depiction of war.

That's not a problem limited to video games, it's a social problem. The idea that you become some sort of God among men for signing up to the army is something that needs to be stopped. Movies and games are created to glorify war because war is still linked to glory and honour by many, many people.

MGS1 doesn't end with Snake dying, or Liquid Snake winning.

Hoobinator

who wants to see snake die? =/ for the sake of a sad ending? no thanks i'll take the happy one, snake living > snake dying, UNLESS it makes the overall story better which might happen in MGS4, otherwise i dont want a sad ending just for the sake of being anti-happy ending or w/e

[QUOTE="gingerdivid"]

The Hollywood-esque glorification of WW2.

And Chicken for health powerups.

Hoobinator

Too true. War is damn terrifying for everyone involved. These supposedly "realistic" shooters are presenting a grossly misleading take on it. They're Rambo simulators not a depiction of war.

I agree.

There's also the unfortunate hang-over effect of having so many WWII themed games around - Nerds everywhere suddenly think they're the WHO'S WHO of modern history :roll:

Games where you start off as a badass then something happens and then you lose all of your powers and have to jump through hoops to get them back, usually in places that have nothing to do with what made you a badass in the first place.

backtracking, lava levels, artificial difficulty (bad controls, unfair opposition)

Human characters without any kind of armor or protection that can take dozens of high caliber rounds before they die.

[QUOTE="Hoobinator"]

MGS1 doesn't end with Snake dying, or Liquid Snake winning.

shadyd1717

who wants to see snake die? =/ for the sake of a sad ending? no thanks i'll take the happy one, snake living > snake dying, UNLESS it makes the overall story better which might happen in MGS4, otherwise i dont want a sad ending just for the sake of being anti-happy ending or w/e

If Snake kills himself after all the brutality, destruction, killing, all the memories and moments he's been through it would elevate the Metal Gear series to legendary. To end the life that couldn't be ended by his own hands. What a final act that would be.

...even if it means no more Solid Snake in MG games, or no more MG games ever again. MG fanboys cry.

Really beefy ex-conivct/soldiers who have been freed from prison so that they can fight an evil invasion of aliens/mutants along with their other really beefy soldier buddies. You insult my intelligence when you force me to play as guys like that.

Metrosexual ladyboys who look more feminine than the actual women in the game. When I play an RPG, I would perfer it if I had a main character I could look up to, not laugh at.

An ancient race of prosperous advanced beings helped fuel the technology/magic/whatever of the modern world, and now some evil dude is going to try and revive their technology to conquer the world/universe. Both Western and Japanese RPG's suffer heavily from this. Mass Effect and Final Fantasy X come to mind first.

An ancient race of prosperous advanced beings helped fuel the technology/magic/whatever of the modern world, and now some evil dude is going to try and revive their technology to conquer the world/universe. Both Western and Japanese RPG's suffer heavily from this. Mass Effect and Final Fantasy X come to mind first.

glitchgeeman

Have you played Mass Effect ? :/

i would like to never have to search for a ******* power generator ever again. rawr.

those things don't just turn off like they make it seem.

Timed quests. I dont like being timed while playing. IT IS STUPID.

Main character always being white.xTHExJUICEx

Indeed, and when they're not they're... well, just play GTA:SA :|

• Characters who try way to hard to be shallow badasses, but just aren't. Seriously, devs need to stop trying to turn their characters into Duke Nukem and just realise that Duke Nukem is the only one who can be Duke Nukem and pull it off right.
• Machines obtaining sentient thought and then suddenly becoming evil. When we meet a sentient alien race, it can be friendly and help humanity. But whenever there is a sentient machine race, its always evil. If it is sentient, that means its basically an organism capable of independent thought, so why are they always out to destroy all organic life? How come none of them ever become the "friendly alien"?

1. Americans are good. Everyone else is bad. kill.
2. Pure, clear cut Good guys and bad guys. The bad guys are evil, torture children and burndown hospitals, and the good guys give all their money to charity, don't want anyreward but pride, and "no soldier left behind". This really needs to stop. For example, Why not have the general setting up fake intelligence so that they can invade a more populus city, so he can loot it. But the city is still full of terrorists, so it's actually a bit more challenging to decide weather your good or bad.
3. You can only play as the protagonist. Even in games like GTA, you are still set up as being justified. I don't want to be a good guy, I want to be evil!
4. Really crappy minigames for simple things that ruin action games. Why cant I just walk up to acomputer and turn off the turret, without having put put up with a half assed button mashing game.
5. Games that don't give you any clue what you are supposed to do or where to go.Why.
6. Everything has to be dramatic and overly cinematic. You couldn't make a game like tetris today. It would have to be something "fancy" like zombies are coming to attack, and you need to build a wall to save everyone, in 1080p
7. Protagonists that you just don't care about. These are characters that are underdeveloped, and you really don't care about. They ruin good games, becuase why bother saving Generic_Signifigantothr, if you want them to die!

Mostly, say in an RPG, I hate when there's a cutscene of your character doing some ridiculous acrobatics, killing off a group of enemies in the blink of an eye. Then once you get control of that character, we're all stuck in the 'line up to kill the enemy' stance... and that character never does anything like the cutscene.

Or when theres a bad*** character you've been fighting throughout the game, then once they decide to join you, all their sats suck. What the hell?

Timed missions without reason are idiotic. If the place isn't going to explode or my ride doesn't have to go anywhere, let me stroll through this area as slow as I damn well please.

Escort missions have always been bad, I can only remember doing a handful of them that I enjoy out of thousands littered in each game.

Destructable environments. Unless this whole city is made out of cardboard, I don't see why 5 rounds into the side of a building is causing its east wall to collapse.

Mostly in RPGS. I hate when characters are walking through extremely tough environments in skimpy clothes. I doubt anyone would survive walking on a narrow path with an ocean of lava on either site of them. Or a girl in a tank top and a mini skirt strolling through a mountainside at below zero weather during a blizzard.

Looting people's houses and they just don't care. Or even worse how everyone's house always seems to be unlocked for you in JRPGs. I'm walking along a pathway killing off bandits then come up to this lone house in the woods and -- twist the handle and walk right in? Does this person not realise these woods are infested with bandits?

Games where the day/night cycle lasts about 5 minutes. If you want the game to seem realsitic, go at least half an hour for a whole day to pass.

Lasers. I don't know why, but I never liked them. I'd choose a gun with live ammunition before I'd go for a pewpewpew gun anyday.

[QUOTE="xTHExJUICEx"]Main character always being white.BambooBanger

Indeed, and when they're not they're... well, just play GTA:SA :|

CJ is probably the most well rounded character in videogames history. I really can't think of a character that had done as many things as he did in that game.

He came from humble beginnings, but I'll be damned if he didn't grow as a character by the end.

Light/Dark world. That concept is overused and annoying.

JRPG characters. It's like they took a guy cloned him, gave him different hairstyles and different cloths and put him inside every other JRPG there is.

-Everything in a Duke Nukem game ( ie pig monster cops, strip club with no one in it, fighting a huge alien in a stadium, sunglasses, cheesy dialog, and the list goes on...)

-games that involve a scientist, plumber, or animal saving the world

-characters that never speak

-Aliens that speak human languages

-enemies that hide in lockers, vents, and rooms just waiting for you

-supporting characters that cannot help themselves

-invisible walls

-being unable to swim

-games that bring up 500 questions and only answer 3

-being able to carry 10+ weapons at once

Females who only ever fall into 2 categories. A) Uber sexy, feeble mega idiots that need to be saved every two minutes from whatever villain has apparently stolen her clothes, or B) They go to the other extreme, Ultra mega badass who can dismember 6 men with little more than the standard angry glance and has forgotten all feminine traits and behaviours to become a machine like killing expert, whose only response to flirting from men is to kick him swiftly in the nizzuts.

Quicktime Events NEED TO GO NOW FOREVER. Make your mind up developers, are we watching a cutscene or stomping through more repetitive gameplay? I have no idea who thought this was a good idea or why, but they should be shot.

ViscaBarcaInter

Agreed on both of those, especially quicktime events. I hate them.

Saving the world is another cliche apparent in more than just the JRPG genre.

Generic storylines in general. I'm looking at most of the action and shooter genres.

Overly feminine male characters in JRPGs (not all of them are, but there is usually 1 per game).

Games where your decisions don't actually matter (like in Mass Effect, and not like The Witcher, we need more WRPGs like The Witcher).

Happy endings, some of us want a huge surprise (but no cliffhanger, or dumb character death, although the main character CAN die in a way that wouldn't come across as poorly done) at the end.

Crates/Barrels, as another poster said. There have been explosive barrels in almost every genre.

Games that claim to be something they're not. I really hate this one. I don't want to buy a game that's claimed as a "survival-horror" when in actuality it has almost no survival-horror elements. Same goes with any genre.

Amnesia. It's been done to death.

Searching for power generators. Duuuh.

Eastern-European or German characters that are NOT villains would be nice for a change.

By the way, there are hundreds of german first names, dear game developers. People tend to not be named Klaus, Hans, Gunther and Karl anymore.