Last of Us has large and fairly open environments that you need to explore in order to find items.Those items are integral to the real time crafting system. The crafting system in turn compliments the combat and gives it more depth. Do you craft for offensive or defensive purposes etc Its like every aspect churns in such a mechanical pin point fashion-all serving each other to keep a well oiled machine running in top flight.That machine is the Last of Us! The combat encounters itself are like dynamic sandboxes with multiple approaches and multiple ways you can take on/take out enemies(numerous examples already given.Go read the posts) Last of Us is a GAMEPLAY HEAVY GAME with many nuances(human encounters play out differently to encounters with the infected etc) and with heavy gameplay mechanics(real time crafying system and upgrades which actually effect gameplay etc) Last of Us IS actually MORE GAMEY than 99.9% of AAA games could ever hope to be-the way Naughty Dog also manages to tell an amazing story with amazing characters in conjuction-where IT ALL comes together oh so perfectly...pushes the game into a god tier status far above everything else.Last of Us is a ground breaking game on so many levels. Naughty Gods indeed! You want scripted and linear gameplay go play Gears of War! Gears is nothing but a repetitive pop shoot pop shoot only barebones shooter from cover to cover and corridor to corridor.Now Gears of War is awful..Gears truly embodies everything thats wrong with AAA shooters etc Last of Us represents the opposite of AAA shooters in every way- one hit kills, scarce ammo etc, combat that requires actual thought, a deep thought provoking story etc...I can keep going on and on....How can you not love Last of Us for that-or for everything its bringing to the table? You arent a gamer. I mean to not care about the story or characters too...you have to be a sociopath Just keep typing away on your keyboard like an anonymous internet troll though... "Last of Us is not a game...its a hollywood movie" LOL In real life you would have already been laughed out the room or slapped. *sigh* the internet. Theres not even a 0.001 percentage of truth to those statements or to any of your statements for that matter.People who have actually beaten it KNOW whats up. With all your Last of Us vitrol you discredit yourself as a poster p.s I dont care what your PSN says.The way you talk about Last of Us its like you've never played the game. p.s.s [Quote="boxingandgaming"]Dont even compare the gunplay in Last of Us to the "gun play" in Gears. Gears of War has truly shitty gunplay-no hit detection on enemies. Slow clunky controls.Bullet sponge enemies etc Last of Us has FAR SUPERIOR gun play to Gears (Read my posts on page 2 or 3 detailing how phenomenal the gun play is in Last of Us) Naughty Dog with Last of Us also offers far more gameplay creative freedom than Epic could ever dream of with Gears I even find the stealth meachnics in Last of Us to be well above average. Hell, Last of Us has MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better stealth mechanics than the new Splinter Cell game After the post you made, its clear your "opinions" are not be taken seriously.Your opinions will forever be irrelavant. Last of Us IS GOTY. DEAL WITH ITIm a huge sony fanboy and I think The Last of Us is terrible, it pretty much has everything I hate in videogames. Its really linear and scripted. The shooting mechanics are taken straight from gears of war and we all know how repetitive and shallow those are. The melee combat is even worse, its just mashing. The stealth mechanics were the only thing in the game that is not downright terrible but its nothing special either. I really disliked the "story" of this game everyone loves so much, I rather have a childish story thats is actually fun than a story that is pretentious as fvck.
The Last of us is not a game, its a glorified Hollywood movie. Oh yeah in b4 "Omg Raziel you havent played the Last of Us", yes I did, just check my Psn Id if you wish, its Darkhammer91.
I havent played GTAV yet but Im pretty much sure it is be worse than TLOU.
Raziel831991
TLOU Vs GTA 5
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P.S The writing, the story telling, character development, the emotional impact etc all things considered, Last of Us HAS one of the best stories of ANY MEDIUM In gaming IT IS the greatest story I've ever experienced.The way it fits gameplay perfectly is amazing. You even have famous movie SCRIPT writers PRAISING the story in Last of Us and PRAISING Neil Druckman's writing But I guess you-a random xbot troll, knows more then they do. GTFO Ive been gaming since on the NES and The Last of Us is the greatest game ive ever playedIm a huge sony fanboy and I think The Last of Us is terrible, it pretty much has everything I hate in videogames. Its really linear and scripted. The shooting mechanics are taken straight from gears of war and we all know how repetitive and shallow those are. The melee combat is even worse, its just mashing. The stealth mechanics were the only thing in the game that is not downright terrible but its nothing special either. I really disliked the "story" of this game everyone loves so much, I rather have a childish story thats is actually fun than a story that is pretentious as fvck.
The Last of us is not a game, its a glorified Hollywood movie. Oh yeah in b4 "Omg Raziel you havent played the Last of Us", yes I did, just check my Psn Id if you wish, its Darkhammer91.
I havent played GTAV yet but Im pretty much sure it is be worse than TLOU.
Raziel831991
if thathappens we need to put brofists on suicide watch.GTA V will win GOTY anyway, Sony Drones about to be wrecked.
Lumpy311
[QUOTE="BoxingandGaming"]Way of the Warrior was pre Sony Naughty Dog.... The Naughty Dog that rose to prominence and the Naughty Dog we know of today is Crash, Jak & Daxter, Uncharted, amd Last of Us No one considers Way of the Warrior a legit "Naughty Dog" gameConanTheStoner
I know what you're trying to say, but the ND that made Crash/Jak&Daxter isn't the same ND that Uncharted/TLOU... and it shows. Â Current ND is great, but I still prefer old ND.
Thats not true at all... Many of the key members who worked on Uncharted and Last of Us have been with Naughty Dog since Jak & Daxter (Evan Wells...Neil and Bruce all come to mind etc) Hell, Bruce has been at Naughy Dog since Crash (Naughty Dog has some people who have been there since Crash) Naughty Dog has such a great storied history (talking about Sony Naughty Dog) Naughty dog has always had an amazing chemistry among its very talented members who have been there! That amazing team chemistry thats been there for a long time is one of just many reasons why Naughty Dog>>every one else Oh and Naughty Dog right now is better then they ever have been...to boot Naughty Dog is still in their primes and only getting better and better and improving more and more Last of Us is FACTUALLY their most complex game(gameplay wise and story wise) Naughty Dog took their game to a whole other level with The Last of Us. It was a culmination of all the past years of hard work and improvements made coming together. Naughty Dog's next game will be Naughty Dog at the top of their game with more experience and using all of it(everything they have learned) to rise to another level.....seperating themselfes further away from all the developers who have yet to ever touch a fraction of their brilliance in the first placeI will bet you any amount of money you want over pay pal that Last of Us sweeps up majority of GOTY awards Put YOUR money where your MOUTH is you delusional xbot shillGTA V will win GOTY anyway, Sony Drones about to be wrecked.
Lumpy311
[QUOTE="Raziel831991"]Last of Us has large fairly open environments that you need to explore in order to find items. Those items are integral to the real time crafting system The crafting system in turn compliments the combat and gives it more depth. Do you craft for offensive or defensive purposes etc Everything is mechanical and serves each other perfectly (Naughty Gods) The combat encounters themselfes are like wide dynamic sandboxes with multiple approaches and multiple ways you can take on/take out enemies(numerous examples already given. Go read the posts) Last of Us is a GAMEPLAY HEAVY GAME with many nuances and deep mechanics You want scripted and linear gameplay go play Gears of War. Gears is nothing but a repetitive pop shoot pop shoot only barebones shooter from cover to cover and corridor to corridor. Now Gears of War is AWFUL.Gears truly embodies everything thats wrong with AAA shooters etc Last of Us represents the opposite of AAA shooters in every way- one hit kills, scarce ammo etc. How can you not love Last of Us for that. You have no clue what you are talking about..... To say Last of Us is not a game and than call it a hollywood movie....its.....you are just insanely delusional. Theres not even 0.001 percentage of truth to those statements.People who have actually played it WILL back me up Im going to be blunt, you are not and never will fool anyone with your delusional off base drivel as a hater about Last of Us You know what, its like you havent even played the game and I dont care what "your PSN" says Oh and dont even compare the gunplay in Last of Us to the "gun play" in Gears Gears of War has shit gunplay-no hit detection on enemies. Slow clunky controls. Bullet sponge enemies etc Last of Us has FAR SUPERIOR gun play to Gears. Last of Us also offers far more gameplay creative freedom than Gears does in the combat I find the stealth meachnics in Last of Us to be well above average. Hell, Last of Us has better stealth mechanics than the new Splinter Cell game lol After the post you made, its clear your "opinions" are not be taken seriously.Your opinions will forever be irrelavantIm a huge sony fanboy and I think The Last of Us is terrible, it pretty much has everything I hate in videogames. Its really linear and scripted. The shooting mechanics are taken straight from gears of war and we all know how repetitive and shallow those are. The melee combat is even worse, its just mashing. The stealth mechanics were the only thing in the game that is not downright terrible but its nothing special either. I really disliked the "story" of this game everyone loves so much, I rather have a childish story thats is actually fun than a story that is pretentious as fvck.
The Last of us is not a game, its a glorified Hollywood movie. Oh yeah in b4 "Omg Raziel you havent played the Last of Us", yes I did, just check my Psn Id if you wish, its Darkhammer91.
I havent played GTAV yet but Im pretty much sure it is be worse than TLOU.
BoxingandGaming
Lol what an aggresive fanboy
I see you havent played many games, the maps in the Last of Us arent in any bigger than those in your avarege linear game, sure it does have some areas that are more open but most linear games also have those from time to time and you know what? It doesnt stop them from being linear games because the game itself is just walking through linear path, shoot, story sequence and repeat. Also there are many linear videogames with hidden objects troughout the map and that doesnt stop them from being very linear as well, however I do agree that the crafting system was a nice touch. The Last of Us in the end of the day is a linear path and its not possible to deny this fact. And the freedom of strategy is not enough to desguise the fact that the game is pretty much going from point A to point B through a linear space.
Read this article it explains rather well as of why The Last of Us is a movie:
http://www.vg247.com/2013/07/05/the-last-thing-we-need-naughty-dogs-cinema-obsession/
And I agree that the gunplay in Gears of war sucks, but The Last of Us is the same. Yes it has scare ammo while Gear of war doesnt but that doesnt stop the fact its about pop into cover, pop out of cover and shoot. The gunplay is extremly repetive no matter how you spin it. And I have played the game, I already told you can check my PSN ID to see that I have in fact played the game, but it seems you cant accept reality and to be honest I dont give a sh*t, you cant accept the fact other people might have different opinions than you do which is rather sad. And like I said Im a playstation fanboy, I hate the xbox 360 since it was the console that made these "hollywood-like games" popular in the first place. Also like I said I hated the story, everything about it is generic, from Joel to very setting itself, if you want a good story check out the Legacy of Kain frenchise, specially Soul Reaver 2, that game has amazing writing.
[QUOTE="Raziel831991"]Finally any console gamer who can see the flaws in mainstream games. watch out. you will be eaten by hipsters here. they only play teh AAA games and scores. and nothing elseIm a huge sony fanboy and I think The Last of Us is terrible, it pretty much has everything I hate in videogames. Its really linear and scripted. The shooting mechanics are taken straight from gears of war and we all know how repetitive and shallow those are. The melee combat is even worse, its just mashing. The stealth mechanics were the only thing in the game that is not downright terrible but its nothing special either. I really disliked the "story" of this game everyone loves so much, I rather have a childish story thats is actually fun than a story that is pretentious as fvck.
The Last of us is not a game, its a glorified Hollywood movie. Oh yeah in b4 "Omg Raziel you havent played the Last of Us", yes I did, just check my Psn Id if you wish, its Darkhammer91.
I havent played GTAV yet but Im pretty much sure it is be worse than TLOU.
SNIPER4321
says the guy who only played Stalker games and Metro :lol:
GTA V wins
[QUOTE="ConanTheStoner"][QUOTE="BoxingandGaming"]Way of the Warrior was pre Sony Naughty Dog.... The Naughty Dog that rose to prominence and the Naughty Dog we know of today is Crash, Jak & Daxter, Uncharted, amd Last of Us No one considers Way of the Warrior a legit "Naughty Dog" gameBoxingandGaming
I know what you're trying to say, but the ND that made Crash/Jak&Daxter isn't the same ND that Uncharted/TLOU... and it shows. Â Current ND is great, but I still prefer old ND.
Thats not true at all... Many of the key members who worked on Uncharted and Last of Us have been with Naughty Dog since Jak & Daxter (Neil and Bruce come to mind etc) Hell, Bruce has been at Naughy Dog since Crash (Naughty Dog has some people who have been there since Crash) Naughty Dog has such a great storied history (talking about Sony Naughty Dog) Naughty dog has always had an amazing chemistry among its very talented members who have been there! That amazing team chemistry thats been there for a long time is one of just many reasons why Naughty Dog>>every one else Oh and Naughty Dog right now is better then they ever have been...to boot Naughty Dog is still in their primes and only getting better and better and improving more and more Last of Us is FACTUALLY their most complex game(gameplay wise and story wise) Naughty Dog took their game to a whole other level with The Last of Us. It was a culmination of all the past years of hard work and improvements made coming together. Naughty Dog's next game will be Naughty Dog at the top of their game with more experience and using all of it(everything they have learned) to rise to another level.....seperating themselfes further away from all the developers who have yet to ever touch a fraction of their brilliance in the first place the gameplay is stupidly simple compared to jak II/III. Those games were open world and tons of fun. The last of us is as simple and routine as it gets, Naughty dogs best game this gen failed to break the corridor, cover based shooter phase the entire industry seemed to be goign through. Its best work? By not deviating from the pack at all... TLOU is a corridor shooter, there are very few open areas, and your ability to stealth or shoot your way through things is the only available tactics really. Compare that to GTAV which cinematically tells a great story the same way tlou does and I'd wager its just as good, it doesn't try to cheap shot you with a little girl tagging along in a post apologetically world.. its funny how many simpletons fell for that instead of making really good interesting characters... like trevor. On top of the story I can do stupid stuff like scuba dive and punch a shark in the face... or try to. One single block of buildings in GTA5 probably has more playable area than the entirety of TLOU, Its got more interesting characters, its not a me too post apocalyptic world setting with zombies (we've had a lot of those this gen)Also this may sound silly but from a survival perspective and the tension that its supposed to create, GTAV even does a better job at that, when you're low on health and hiding in the bushes from the cops... this was far superior to every thing that TLOU through at me trying to build tension or suspenseÂ
Lol what an aggresive fanboy *followed by paragraphs of lies, spinning, and excuses* It seems you cant accept reality and to be honest I dont give a sh*t, you cant accept the fact other people might have different opinions than you do which is rather sadRaziel831991No the reality is Last of Us is a friggen great game. The reality is unlike you I have actually beaten Last of Us. I have beaten it 5 times in fact. Thats how much I love it. Its such an amazing game! Last of Us is my personal favorite game of all time. Many feel the same way! But i still have backed up what i have said with legit points. Ive tried to state as many facts as possible too. Everything ive said is backed by sense and truth! You on the other hand are just spewing non sense. Thats what the reality is. How many times have i had to correct you already To call Last of Us a movie. FALSE To say it plays like a linear cover shooter. FALSE To say its just a zombie game. FALSE Etc etc etc Get it! Most people have a problem when false things are said. When flase things are said about Last of Us, its a problem...and not just for me but for everyone. I simply call out the BS for what it is. You dont have a right to hide behind the "its just a matter of opinion" excuse. Opinions can still be wrong as your "opinions" clearly are very wrong. Ya know and fans like me have every right to call you out on it! So what? You think you can lie, exaggerate, and hate etc BUT that we cant call you out on any of it? GTFO. You are a delusional hater and that is much worse than being the biggest fanboy could ever be like. Now if you are reasonable and say something along the lines of "Last of Us was a great game but it just wasnt for me" etc than thats aways ok. No one will take issue with that etc. I never will. Just give credit to the fact Last of Us is objectively a great game and that fundamentally it has solid mechanics and great...and i mean great gameplay. As for your movie comment. The Last of Us is a 20 hour game with just barely 90 minutes total worth of cut scenes for crying out loud....GTFO of here with your BS. The Last of Us is a game that is HEAVILY GAMEPLAY BASED. Any one who has actually played and beaten it knows YOU ARE FULL OF IT. Everything you have said about the game is bull.....and thats where the problems arise for I and im sure many others. You better expect to be called out on all the hot garbage you been spewing about Lasst of Us....you disguised xbot troll....because we WILL call you out on all of your b.s Hell, Gears and Halo have more cut scens and are only 5 hour games. Let that sink in LOL GTAV even has more cut scenes than Last of Us does so by your "logic" GTAV is more of a movie and is less of a game. By your logic Last of Us is more of a game than GTAV CONFIRMED Dont try to reduce or diminish what Last of Us brings to the table I will respond to the rest of your off base comments more specifically in a little bit. You are delusional
If I didnt play TLOU then can you explain why do I have The Last of Us trophy data installed in my ps3? Did it appear by magic? And by the way I will be waiting for your answers
If I didnt play TLOU then can you explain why do I have The Last of Us trophy data installed in my ps3? Did it appear by magic? And by the way I will be waiting for your answers
Raziel831991
I think he's just upset, the game is just an OK game, but he fell for the shiny pretty hard and is just trying to hold on to that feeling for as long as he can.
A massive sandbox full of toys to play with isn't better than a zombie shooter? :lol:foxhound_foxIn this case, no it isn't.
A massive sandbox full of toys to play with isn't better than a zombie shooter? :lol:foxhound_fox
No, it's not.
I see you havent played many games, the maps in the Last of Us arent in any bigger than those in your avarege linear game, sure it does have some areas that are more open but most linear games also have those from time to timeRaziel831991You got it twisted Even the smaller levels in Last of Us are still bigger and more open than the average levels in your typical linear AAA games like Gears/Halo/Bioshock. WHEN the levels get bigger in Last of Us, they then become much bigger and much more open than even the BIGGEST linear levels in typical AAA linear games like Gears/Halo etc What you need to realise is that the Last of Us has more open environments with multiple routes for the sandbox combat, and has larger envirnoments for the scavenging that you need to do in order to find the items which are spread around. Every gameplay mechanic flows into one another like water too (the exploring and scavenging to find an item-crafting item in real time to supplement combat, kicking ass in combat in a many variety of ways etc) Even more, it all fits the narrative/story perfectly. Last of Us is the BEST DESIGNED game ive ever played. Naughty Gods indeed! The ONLY truly "LINEAR" thing about Last of Us is that you move from point A to point B...which that will bring us to the next point
It doesnt stop them from being linear games because the game itself is just walking through linear path, shoot, story sequence and repeat.Raziel831991*Continuing on* Every game involves going from point A to point B. Even open world games like Grand Theft Auto or Skyrim HAVE you going from point A to point B in the stories etc. If you want to blindly and arbitrarily discredit Last of Us for it, than you should discredit every game for it. All games are "guilty" of the "standards" you seem to only want to apply to Last of Us It should be about the "experience." The fact IS it is always about the experience (even in real life!) The gameplay + story experience in Last of Us is simply unmatched! Why you ask? -Ive never played combat as intense, brutal, and as engaging as the combat in Last of Us. The combat in Last of Us is so exhilarating...even challenging.. -Ive never cared about "mechanics" like upgrading or crafting UNTIL it was done to expertise in Last of Us and ACTUALLY meant something In most games, stuff like that hardly has any effect on gameplay and it is never justified by the story or important to it etc -Yet in Last of Us, it (upgrading/crafting etc) actually mattered to the gameplay and it was supported by the narrative/story brilliantly. It was important to it! -Ive never been so emotionally attached to characters like I was attached to the expertly crafted such natural and realistic characters in Last of Us (Tess/Ellie/Joel etc) -Ive never been so emotionally hit by a story like i was hit by the daunting yet "beautiful" tale and life changing journy of Joel and Ellie -That ending of Last of Us stuck with me for weeks. My heart was on strings being tugged by Naughty Dog with their game The Last of Us Last of Us is literal perfection. It is as close to it as it gets. Last of Us does everything RIGHT, literally Ive NEVER EVER played ANYTHING like the Last of Us. There is NOTHING that comes close to The Last of Us. NOTHING To even break down the "forumula" like that In Last of Us is so reductionist and trollish We can do the same to Grand Theft Auto... "Oh you get a call...you go take out a guy, like a mindless slave, then you have to run from the cops......thats like literally every mission in GTAV.....so boring predictable bland etc Now go back and refer to the points I just mentioned before
The Last of Us in the end of the day is a linear path and its not possible to deny this fact.Raziel831991Wrong. Just go back and read all of the points ive already raised against you
[QUOTE="BoxingandGaming"][QUOTE="Raziel831991"]Thats not true at all... Many of the key members who worked on Uncharted and Last of Us have been with Naughty Dog since Jak & Daxter (Neil and Bruce come to mind etc) Hell, Bruce has been at Naughy Dog since Crash (Naughty Dog has some people who have been there since Crash) Naughty Dog has such a great storied history (talking about Sony Naughty Dog) Naughty dog has always had an amazing chemistry among its very talented members who have been there! That amazing team chemistry thats been there for a long time is one of just many reasons why Naughty Dog>>every one else Oh and Naughty Dog right now is better then they ever have been...to boot Naughty Dog is still in their primes and only getting better and better and improving more and more Last of Us is FACTUALLY their most complex game(gameplay wise and story wise) Naughty Dog took their game to a whole other level with The Last of Us. It was a culmination of all the past years of hard work and improvements made coming together. Naughty Dog's next game will be Naughty Dog at the top of their game with more experience and using all of it(everything they have learned) to rise to another level.....seperating themselfes further away from all the developers who have yet to ever touch a fraction of their brilliance in the first place the gameplay is stupidly simple compared to jak II/III. Those games were open world and tons of fun. The last of us is as simple and routine as it gets, Naughty dogs best game this gen failed to break the corridor, cover based shooter phase the entire industry seemed to be goign through. Its best work? By not deviating from the pack at all... TLOU is a corridor shooter, there are very few open areas, and your ability to stealth or shoot your way through things is the only available tactics really. Compare that to GTAV which cinematically tells a great story the same way tlou does and I'd wager its just as good, it doesn't try to cheap shot you with a little girl tagging along in a post apologetically world.. its funny how many simpletons fell for that instead of making really good interesting characters... like trevor. On top of the story I can do stupid stuff like scuba dive and punch a shark in the face... or try to. One single block of buildings in GTA5 probably has more playable area than the entirety of TLOU, Its got more interesting characters, its not a me too post apocalyptic world setting with zombies (we've had a lot of those this gen) The Last of Us has one hit kills, scarce ammo, resource management backed gameplay, and sandbox combat....but no, according to you its a corridor shooter that is as simple and routine as it gets.... I believe the game you were trying to describe is Gears of War! Sorry Last of Us is not that game! lol some people here who clearly have never played Last of Us trying to offer their shitty "opinions" on it. Pathetic. Not even the 3 face palm meme is sufficient enough for your level of stupidity here No one has yet to answer me this question IF the Last of Us is such a "simple" "routine" corridor shooter THAN JUST name me all the games that PLAY LIKE IT Go on!!!!!! Im waiting.. You xbots and trolls keep avoiding that question because you know "your answers" will expose you Its the most avoided question ive ever seen LOLI know what you're trying to say, but the ND that made Crash/Jak&Daxter isn't the same ND that Uncharted/TLOU... and it shows. Â Current ND is great, but I still prefe old ND.
savagetwinkie
so you havent played the last of us i guess :? I will gladly take good gameplay mechanics,over boring fetch questsGTA has the advantage of actually being fun while TLOU is another boring, generic cover shooter with trial and error stealth.
Pffrbt
so you dont even have the game, yet you spend your time on this topic trolling a game you havent even touched as well? One question: Do you feel like badass or cool now :? Just curious"^troll alert!"
Someone disagreeing with you doesn't make them a troll.
"GTAV cant touch the story and combat in Last of Us."
TLOU's story did nothing for me and only had one likable character. I don't see what was special about the combat either. It's typical third person cover shooter whack a mole garbage.
"Thats all.. The Last of Us was mature and hard hitting on an emotional level The Last of Us hit people on such an emotional level and resonated."
Being more "mature" doesn't necessarily make something better and "emotional" is a buzzword. My feelings on TLOU's ending: "Sigh, well okay. Thank god that's finally over".
"It made people think, care, enjoy, sad and love etc That cant be measured or topped So thats why The Last of Us will win a vast majority of GOTY awards...."
So it'll win GOTY awards based on something unrelated to it being a game. Ok.
"simply because of the impact it had-the mature story it told which tackled real issues"
Oh yes, the real issues of surviving in post-apocalyptic fungal America.
"the all time memorable characters it had who you deeply cared for"
There is only a single character I could remotely care about in the game.
"the thought provoking gameplay which actually provided challenges, then the way it all came together perfectly etc"
What's thought provoking or challenging about primarily generic cover shooting and trial and error stealth sections.
"NOTHING will be able to top Last of Us And Naughty Dog deserves awards for what they accomplished with Last of Us Grand Theft Auto 5 could have offerered me a free blow job and i still wouldnt change my mind! GTAV shouldnt even be mentioned in the same sentence as Last of Us hahaha"
You sound insane.
"You need to go play The Ladt of Us instead of trying to blindly discredit it on forums out of of an obessive love for GTAV...you rockstar fanboy"No thanks, I'd rather not play TLOU ever again after having such a miserable, boring, tedious experience the first time through. I don't even have GTAV yet and I dislike the majority of what Rockstar makes. GTAV has to be better than TLOU though. It just has to be. Because jesus christ if it isn't.
Pffrbt
If TLOU was multiplat i'm sure most if not everyone would say GTA V. Both great games but GTA V.
[QUOTE="Raziel831991"]I see you havent played many games, the maps in the Last of Us arent in any bigger than those in your avarege linear game, sure it does have some areas that are more open but most linear games also have those from time to timeBoxingandGamingYou got it twisted Even the smaller levels in Last of Us are still bigger and more open than the average levels in your typical linear AAA games like Gears/Halo/Bioshock. WHEN the levels get bigger in Last of Us, they then become much bigger and much more open than even the BIGGEST linear levels in typical AAA linear games like Gears/Halo etc What you need to realise is that the Last of Us has more open environments with multiple routes for the sandbox combat, and has larger envirnoments for the scavenging that you need to do in order to find the items which are spread around. Every gameplay mechanic flows into one another like water too (the exploring and scavenging to find an item-crafting item in real time to supplement combat, kicking ass in combat in a many variety of ways etc) Even more, it all fits the narrative/story perfectly. Last of Us is the BEST DESIGNED game ive ever played. Naughty Gods indeed! The ONLY truly "LINEAR" thing about Last of Us is that you move from point A to point B...which that will bring us to the next point
The only map in The Last of Us that I found fairly big is the one where Ellie supports you with a sniper rifle. All others are just as small as other linear games. Yes it might be bigger than gears of war but nowhere nearly as big as Halo 1, 2 and 3 (havent played the others) and this is coming from someone that hates Halo. Halo has fairly big maps, specially the ones where vehicles are involved, in fact if you knew what a sandbox game is, you would know that Halo despite being linear, it does have a few maps that somewhat resemble to those of a sandbox game. And for your information a sandbox game is a "free roaming" game that doesnt have "walls"that prevent exploration and The Last of Us has plenty of those. And I dont care whether the combat is brutal or not, whats important is that both the gunplay and melee combat are shallow as hell and extremly repetitive. Yes every game is about going from point A to B, however in games like Skyrim you can just stop doing the main quest and do sidequests or go exploring, in other words it gives the player freedom, something The Last of does not, since the whole game is a linear path and doesnt allow the player anything else other than following the path the game establishes for you. As for the story, I think everything was rather generic, from the setting to the characters. And by the way stop calling people xbots simply because they did not like the Last of Us. Like I said Im a Sony fan,but that does not mean I have to enjoy every single sony exclusive. Im currently playing Puppeteer, its a ps3 exclusive and Im loving, its beatiful, chariming and wildly imaginative.
Also I think Im tired of disscusing this with you, you can answer this post if you want, but do not expect me to answer you back.
Ok now i know for a fact you are trolling Thats weak-sauce in GTAV Try playing the Last of Us when you enter a room full of clickers and you are low on resources.... The erie sounds of the clickers making the hair on the back of your neck stand up......as you try to carefully manuver around them not trying to make too much noise....then boom....you make a noise...and they are after you...the drums kicking in the background.....your heart pounding...YOU RUN because you dont have the resources. You look for a place to hide. You find it. You gain your wits and collect yourself. You give it another shot. This time you are silently picking them off. NOTHING compares to that Hell, try trying to craft a medkit in the middle of a heated encounter or when trying to sneak around as your health is low. Insane tension. Human encounters play out so much differently too.Humans react to you and actively try to flank you. You have to be on your toes In the Last of Us you can dynamically play cat and mouse with the human enemies. The tension there is unbelievable as you pick them off one by one Oh and never mind the fact that when you get caught in stealth, its not a game over like in other stealth games, in Last of Us you have to roll with the punches. With smart tactics you can also lose enemies, and as you are thinking up another strategy from a safe hiding spot, that is another awesome feeling/or tension...then to give it another go and come out on top....just awesome..plus all the options you have at your disposal....brawl shoot, club with item, set traps with bombs etc... The Last of Us has some of the most intense, engaging, brutal, well thought out combat of any game ive ever played Nothing compares to the combat in Last of Us ....all the so called survival games pail in comparison Whats pretty amazing is Last of Us does survival gameplay better then even the best Resident Evil game could.. Last of Us is like the true spiritual successor to RE IMO(Thats how great Naughty Dog is, they decide to tackle another genre and completely reinvent it, leaving all other games of said genre in the dust) P.S In your last response to me you said one building block has more replay value than any part of TLOU That one building block is STATIC IN GTAV...Its just there for more scenery..the pedestrians are just there. .It offers nothing... Ive replayed combat encounters DOZENS of times in Last of Us due to the more fleshed out sandbox nature of the combat...and each time something different happened depending on a different approcah i took or a differemt tactic I tried GTAV gets OLD REALLY FAST mean while i can play The Last of Us again and again while loving it every time just as much as the last time etc. In fact the only thing thats ever been fun in GTA is to go mindlessly wreck havoc and build up your wanted star levels YET Infamous does it better. Infamous is intelligently designed to focus on that concept of power/wrecking havic/destruction alone so thats why Infamous is the best open world game out there. No filler and it knows exactly what most open world players want! And to even say that GTAV tells a story as good as Last of Us does or has better charcaters...LOL facepalm....You are just delusional. Go read my other posts on that subjectAlso this may sound silly but from a survival perspective and the tension that its supposed to create, GTAV even does a better job at that, when you're low on health and hiding in the bushes from the cops... this was far superior to every thing that TLOU through at me trying to build tension or suspenseÂ
savagetwinkie
Haven't played enough of GTAV to tell, but so far I'd say TLOU is winning.
And the freedom of strategy is not enough to desguise the fact that the game is pretty much going from point A to point B through a linear space.raziel831991In Grand Theft Auto you go from point A to point B in the story. I bet your fav. game is like that too But lets use GTAV as an example.Lets take your "logic" and use it against you so you can come to the realization you need to RE: Last of Us. "The fact GTV has "open world gameplay" between going from points A to point B in the story "doesnt diguise the fact its just going from point A to point B through out that awful story" You see? Either way, dont miss the forrest for the trees in The Last of Us. Its NOT ABOUT going from point A to point B. Its about the JOURNEY in how you get there Ya know, there is so much GAMEPLAY FREEDOM in the combat in Last of Us...many options....That MEANS that FACTUALLY IT DOES NOT PLAY like a linear game The story in Last of Us is amazing and gives so much more weight to the already amazing gameplay....making you just want to keep playing and playing and again and again etc...... Even in downtime YOU CAN ENGAGE in optional dialogue in the Last of Us...you have the CHOICE to initiate it....and that optional dialogue is better and more interesting than the main dialogue of many games lol You EXPLORE the environments to look for items etc What more needs to be said! STOP TROLLING. You are either a subtle Rockstar shill or an xbot. In any case your opinions are garbage and will never be taken seriously Hell, I would rather "go from point A to point B" in the Last of Us ANY DAY, than have to suffer through from point A to point B in the AWFUL story of GTAV I would rather "go from point A to point B" in the Last of Us than go from point A to point B in Soul Reaver or Soul Reaver or play Dota 2 etc
Read this article it explains rather well as of why The Last of Us is a movie:It figures a troll like you would link me to such a garbage piece written by an amature bush league hack posing as a games journalist. That article reads like nothing more than the troll posts ive seen on gamespot etc and those opinions get disregarded, so they should be disregarded as "articles" too etc Here, WATCH this for some actual points of reason AND deatailed unbiased FACTS "Everything The Last of Us gets right" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKzVwbs-lsghttp://www.vg247.com/2013/07/05/the-last-thing-we-need-naughty-dogs-cinema-obsession/Raziel831991
And I agree that the gunplay in Gears of war sucks, but The Last of Us is the same. Yes it has scare ammo while Gear of war doesnt but that doesnt stop the fact its about pop into cover, pop out of cover and shoot.Raziel831991Wrong wrong and wrong Last of Us has the BEST GUN play of any third person game out there. Guns go off with deafening booms. Enemies voilently react to each bullet. No bullet sponges. Tight responsive controls etc Gunplay is beyond phenomenal in the Last of Us and yet gunplay is just one piece of the puzzle that makes up the brilliant combat in Last of Us In Last of Us you can brawl, run, throw items, combo the throws with running meele, set traps with bombs, stealth, play cat and mouse etc all exhilarating well done options of attack. Last of Us plays like nothing else out there Im still waiting for you and the other troll to NAME ME GAMES that play like The Last of Us since Last of Us is a "repetitive TPS shooter" in the vein of Gears etc I dont care what your PSN says (I even bet youre using a friends or cousins PSN) When you continue to make such OFF beat "comments" about Last of Us such as "its a pop shoot shooter etc" IT PROVES you dont have a clue. Youre talking like someone whos NEVER played the game or given the game a fair shake etc Basically, all of your posts in this thread come down to this: "I hate linear games and i find Last of Us to be linear so its therefore an awful game" Thats such an awful and narrow minded way to think. Even then.... Its been pointed out to you many times that: 1.Last of Us has dynamic sandbox combat. Naughty Dog gives you felshed out tools, and gives you the absolute gameplay freedom in how you want to use those tools in encounters. 2. Gives you the choice to engage in optional game dialogue which adds back story or some awesome moments of just bonding etc 3. When there are so much unqiue assests and details in the environments, its like the environments in Last of Us are telling their own story. Last ofUs has environmental story telling. In the segments of downtime you can walk around and totally immerse yourself in the world Plus when you find notes or "collectables" Joel commemts on them in REAL TIME. No other AAA"linear" game gives you that much freedom or has that much detail....or thoughtful design...or even challenge (the fact there are 1 hit kills, scarce ammo etc) Last of Us is simply a monumental gaming achievement on every level. It is wrong to try to classify a special game like Last of Us into a one off catagory Last of Us is a mature work of ART through and through by Naughty Dog......but if pressed to do so...and according to the "labels" people mindlessly use....well than if anything Last of Us is WIDE "linear." Last of Us is also survival horror infused with action You have yet to raise any legit or coherent points. You fail to adress the facts i bring in response to you. You just spew out hot garbage about Last of Us. Any one here can see how much of a deluded troll you are. Get that through your head. Your opinions WILL always mean NOTHING.... Oh and if i want to play a game with great writing THAN I WILL GO PLAY The Last of Us. Last of Us easily has the best writing of any game ever. Dont try to tell me what i should do or go play you arrogant twat.
It is like an earlier poster said. It really depends on your interest. I prefer linear story driven games like the Last of Us and Uncharted 2. I hated the messy Uncharted 3. LOL. I couldn't stand GTA4. After killing a few people with cars and a couple horrible gunplay shootouts I was done. I will pass on GTA 5. Next to Ucharted 2 TLOU is my favorite game of the gen. I'm 43 and have other interests than video games so I wonder how age demographics play a part of it. I would think the TLOU would favour the older generation for the most part while GTA5 would be a perfect senseless teenager mayhem game.
Its not letting me quote this part...
"Try playing the Last of Us when you enter a room full of clickers and you are low on resources.... The erie sounds of the clickers making the hair on the back of your neck stand up......as you try to carefully manuver around them not trying to make too much noise....then boom....you make a noise...and they are after you...the drums kicking in the background.....your heart pounding...YOU RUN because you dont have the resources. You look for a place to hide. You find it. You gain your wits and collect yourself. You give it another shot. This time you are silently picking them off. NOTHING can compare"
GTA V is far more intense when the cops are after you, especially when you've really pissed them off, because there is a timing part that goes with it. Once you've pissed them off you actually have to escape then avoid the police until your wanted level goes away. This is just like the clicker sections but on a much larger scale, and far more dynamic and no light at the end of the linear path.
Also the clicker sections weren't very difficult, they don't have eyes so just walking slowly past them worked. I never got into a situation where I had to hide from them, the levels were too small and they were a one shot kill. Most of the time whne I alerted them was because I relaxed to much and started running around the area searching for stuff and literally ran into them round corners.
Human encounters play out so much differently too.Humans react to you and actively try to flank you. You have to be on your toes In the Last of Us you can dynamically play cat and mouse with the human enemies. The tension there is unbelievable as you pick them off one by one Oh and never mind the fact that when you get caught in stealth, its not a game over like in other stealth games, in Last of Us you have to roll with the punches. With smart tactics you can also lose enemies, and as you are thinking up another strategy from a safe hiding spot, that is another awesome feeling/or tension...then to give it another go and come out on top....just awesome..plus all the options you have at your disposal....brawl shoot, club with item, set traps with bombs etc... The Last of Us has some of the most intense, engaging, brutal, well thought out combat of any game ive ever played Nothing compares to the combat in Last of Us
BoxingandGaming
Holy crap you must of gotten the e3 build they showed, because this has never happenend to me. The AI is terrible at finding you so you can wander around them pretty easily, they don't seem to have any peripheral vision at all. And even when they do spot you hiding is futile, mostly because its a lot more work with them running directly at you with a stick and you can mow them down one after another pretty easily. When they do finally manage to use cover they are easily outwitted and can be flanked. Thanks naughty dog for the mini sand box, instead of having to rush their position taking on fire i can just go into one of the other rooms next to him and beat him down with a brick...
....all the so called survival games pail in comparison Last of Us does survival gameplay better then even the best Resident Evil game could lol. Last of Us is like the true spiritual successor to RE IMO. Thats how great Naughty Dog is, they decide to tackle another genre and completely reinvent it, leaving all other games of said genre in the dust.
BoxingandGaming
This isn't a survial game at all, your mixing the stories premise with the core gameplay mechanics which is stealth. You don't need any of your resources to over come obstacles, you can just sneak around and murder people. If any one is trying to survive in this game its the dumb AI trying ... Resident evil works as a survival game becuase theres a much bigger gamble when choosing the flight or fight tactics. Its not a straight linear game and you need your guns to get past certain areas. conserving ammo and making decisions when to use it plays a much bigger role.
When you can hide and beat everyone with bricks its no longer a "survival" game but a stealth game.
P.S In your last response to me you said one building block has more replay value than any part of TLOU That one building block is STATIC IN GTAV...Its just there for more scenery..the pedestrians are just there. .It offers nothing... Ive replayed combat encounters DOZENS of times in Last of Us due to the more fleshed out sandbox nature of the combat...and each time something different happened depending on a different approcah i took or a differemt tactic i tried GTAV gets OLD REALLY FAST mean while i can play The Last of Us again and again loving it every time In fact the only thing thats ever been fun in GTA is to go mindlessly wreck havoc and build up your wanted star levels Infamous does it better and it is intelligently designed to focus on that concept of power/wrecking havic/destruction alone-why Infamous is the best open world game out there And to even say that GTAV tells a story as good as Last of Us does or has better charcaters...you are delsuioal...its out right insanity. Go read my other posts on that subjectBoxingandGaming
You completely didn't understand what I said at all. I didn't mention replayabliity at all. I said there is as much playable area in a single block of gta 5 than the entireity of TLOU. Its an exaggeration but one thats not too far off.
Infamous is a great game, but I wouldn't put it above GTA at all. It suffers greatly becuase your character is completely limiited to using his powers for... everything. Your only mode of transportation is gliding/power lines. Your only weapons are mostly copies of gun class weapons like the grenade launcher, sniper, rocket... and the enemies aren't really all that varied either. All this constitues to a very repatitive game, and especially the first, easily wears on you. I'm hoping SS overcomes these issues.
There are a lot more choices for wreaking havoc in GTA, but its much harder because its not as easy to escape once the cops are all over you. Your not as nimble as infamous.
GTA V will have online and it's a great game.
GTA 5 > Generic zombie game TLOU.
MOST of the time GTAV plays like a generic shallow set piece cover shooter or a bad driving game The gameplay in Last of Us which Last of Us is a challenging dynamic stealth action game>>>>>>>>>GTAV by country miles Its not even close.... And lets not even talk about the story GTAV doenst even have a story or charcaters worth talking about. Meanwhile The Last of Us has the best story, characters, and writing of any game thats ever been released Last of Us is better then GTAV in every single way GTAV is a generic corny cringe worthy gangster "game" that tries way too hard Last of Us is an emotional breath taking tale of two amazing characters who resonated with people.GTA V will have online and it's a great game.
GTA 5 > Generic zombie game TLOU.
Gaming-Planet
GTA V shits all over TLOU
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Lumpy311
and only 1 system can play them both
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