To all those who are wondering why the ps4 saves will not work on the ps5

Sony engineers are very low IQ.

I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do w/ the way save files are compressed because technically speaking the contents of the PS4 game files themselves would have been compressed in zlib (or whichever format the developers wanted it). The PS5 could easily just use the CPU or, the GPU to decompress the files like the PS4.

That being said, I'm not sure why some titles seem to support local PS4 -> PS5 game saves while others do not. My best guess is that the save files themselves are way different on PS5 games because of how it perhaps integrates with the UI etc. and that Sony doesn't have an out of the box solution to convert the file? It just seems really odd ... especially considering the games that supposedly don't support the game saves are marketing by Xbox and are Smart Delivery enabled.

Of its just the upgraded games, that would make some sense. It's not the exact same game. But it would suck if you had to start all the games again. But that isn't the case. I wouldn't expect my Halo Xbox 360 saves to work on MCC.

What nonsense did I just read?

@xantufrog: I blush.😊

Who cares about our old saves this is a new generation were lucky to even get these games backwards compatible. This is like babies whining they didn't a cookie with there cake EAT YOUR CAKE AN GET OUT!

Says the person was crying about the weight of a console.

What is this, the Sony apology parade thread?

So how Spider man Miles Morales and borderlands 3 have cross saving?

Didn't expect them to

Wow, the cow damage control is real.

Um this is a thread from a cow damage controlling Sony. Not only that but instead of questioning Sony over "this smallest thing" you are deflecting to lems lol.

So you tell me how is not being able to use your save "the smallest stuff" i mean you must finish games like the Witcher 3, Monster Hunter etc in one sitting because being able to use your save is "the smallest stuff" lol.

Sony and its engineers

I did however expect you to be a Sony apologist, and you didn't disappoint :)

Sony should still have had this fixed on the back end. That's their job. Upload your save, convert them to PS5 or vice versa.

Apparently there are cheated and modded saves on the PS4 but an upload system should be able to fix that.

Fix it Sony.

No link...and even if there was this is BS. They should still find a way to overcome whatever is holding back using the same saves. No excuse for this.

I pictured you as that guy when I read your post lol.

In other words, playstations are poorly engineered without a thought of future needs for their users.

Don’t Spider-Man have cross saving?

@lebanese_boy: That's was exactly my reaction to OP.😅

this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sony still clueless. Cows getting screwed again.

So, basically, Sony is too lazy/idgaf to implement a conversion system at the cloud level to make the changes once its uploaded to their PSN Plus accounts. Okay.

It's nothing to do with compression, each PS title has a unique ID for each release where both the game data and Sava data is stored in the filesystem, for example regions and types of release e.g. complete editions. Even on PS4 save games are not transferable between releases.

If you have a hacked console you can manually copy the contents into the correct folders and it will load, sometimes requires having to decrypt the data and modifying data.

For example on the ps3 it was possible to load PC saves if you copied the raw data into the encrypted files inside the dir with the correct game id. It has always been a problem for PS games.

Not sure why Sony hasn't fixed it yet.

@vfighter:

thank sony

HaH

Habibi, cut the crap.

There are dirt cheap emulators that could get PS2 games to work on 10 years old PCs, yet sony announced PS5 is not compatible with PS2!

Sony wants to justify the remaster as if it is a new game!

XBOX is wiping the floor with the PS5 in terms of features so far!

:P

Lmao, what shit is this?

Ps4 and ps5 have the same architecture, proab jus even a bit modified custom os. By your logic(basic computer terminology) you telling me a save file in windows 7 wont work on win 10? Its jus a piece of data file or software not a whole hardware modification. Gt*@ with that logic

This Reminds me when certain console gamers with absolute no technical knowledge or expertise try to act & talk like as if they are IT Specialists. Try researching next time before acting a fool

features lol what new features does the series x have over the ps5?

tell me these features over the ps5?

there is more feature in the ps5 controller than the whole series x itself

nevermind the 3d audio that the controller speaker is even part of.

so tell me tetris effect and gears tactics is going to wipe the floor over

• Astro's Playroom.
• Demon Souls.
• Destruction All Stars.
• Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales.
• Sackboy: A Big Adventure
• godfall

so those 2 games beats ps5 launch line up?

who cares about ps2 games on a ps5. I rather have new games.

ps4 bc is good enough.

why does xbox use old games to beat sonys new games? because there old games are better than there new games for the xbox one.

only reason xbox fans love bc so much because they can only play gears, forza, crackdown 3, and sea of thiefs for so long. unless they go out and buy games that is not on gamepass.

so you don't have to convert anything on a pc? every app works or file works with every other one?

there is no such thing as converting anything on a pc at all?

of course win 7 going to work with win 10 there the same program from the same company.

zlib and krekken are not the same format at all. compression not even the same.

so tell me why the ps3 and 360 transfer saves did not work on the ps4 or xbox one with cross gen games?

i would love to know.

ow no the first wave of third party games will not transfer over my saved games.

tell me did you cry when 360 game saves did not transfer over to xbox one. you must of cried like a baby and called up on the phone to xbox poorly engineers without the thought of future needs for their user.

Compression formats are irrelevant for such a trivial thing. Did Sony really cited it as an excuse or you came up with that dumb idea? If it's really Sony then it's further confirmation that they have chimps for software engineers.

I can bet gold that he made that shit up.

My point is there are things that can easily be done by Sony but they will not do it and bluntly lie to you in the face and say, can not be done.

BC is generally a great thing, it seems MS has hit home run with BC on XSX. Sony on the other hand have not been very open about their BC programme and now this save files issues!

I have a massive PS4 library that I haven't played yet and was hoping to play them at better resolution and frame rate, but I guess since I am sticking with Sony, I have to massively lower my expectations down.

PS5 supports both Zlib and Kraken. Decompress using Zlib recompress using Kraken.

ps5 will have boost mode same as the series x. ps4 games that has boost mode will be 4k/60 on the ps5 just like how the pro uses boost mode on there games.

they already said all ps4 games only a few might have issues.

i left ghost to play on the ps5 and that game has boost mode so 4k/60 for ghost when i play it on my ps5.

if you have game save data on your hdd if your still playing the ps4 version your game saves will work.

its only the ps5 cross gen games that will not have ps4 game saves transferred over.

but your saved data you have now will if your using the ps4 version.

does it support it at the same time? if the game is streaming in ps5 game using krekken going through the entire machine how can it see a zlib save data?

same with the ps3 last of us saves not transfer over if you bought the ps4 version.

I really hope this is the case

Sony has not shown much and we are almost a month away from release, Put that with the saving data issues and you can tell something seems unfinished.

Sony shouldn't **** this up

I have no idea if both can be used at the same time but I don't see why not. If the issue was compression Sony could easily provide a solution.

I'd say its more likely that PS5 save files are completely different to PS4.

Anyway everything is speculation until Sony or a dev clears it up.

@gifford38: No Xbox is not using the same compression. Xbox can cross save because it goes through And will be done by the cloud. Same way it was done for 360 to Xbox one.

And you still like racing games. :P