To be labeled a hardcore gamer?

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

If you make an account on a video game messageboard you are a core gamer.

PinnacleGamingP

and to many people like you who care more bout what other people are doing and sucking a multinational corporations chode as if it will somehow grant you entry into some sort of valhalla.

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

If you make an account on a video game messageboard you are a core gamer.

PinnacleGamingP

Generalizing and stereotyping gamer groups = NOT a gamer. Just a lame fanboy ;)

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

As expected, a lot of people will dismiss the term "hardcore" as a contrived label. Yet, not all gamers are equally vested in the pastime, and we need to recognize this difference in dedication.

Look at it this way. Would you say that the person who makes the occiassional outing with his friends to the basketball court is the same as someone who gets up at 5am 5 times a week and rigorously practices his skills? Is the average car owner the same as an enthusiast who methodically maintains his vehicle (from doing his own oil changes, to regular tire rotations, washing twice a week, and even upgrading components with aftermarket parts, etc...) and reads up on all the automotive magaiznes? How about the average movie goer compared to that afficionado who can recite (without going to IMDB) every oscar winner by year, and has a mental catalog of most actors filmography as well as directors works?

Lets face reality here. being involved in any given activity, not just video games but any you can think of, is not the same measure of involvement among all participants. And it certainly isn't just about how much time one spends on the given pastime, but I would say more about the emotional and to some degree financial investment.

There are the people who buy a $500 TV, and it's perfectly fine for their leisurely viewing experience, and would never consider spending more necessary, even undesirable in light of other priorities. Then you got the enthusiast for who the ultimate home theatre experience is top priority, and to that effect no amount of money matters to achieve said goal.

But key in the distinction is that afformentioned emotional investment. It's the difference of someone who plays for a momentary diversion, and the kind of gamer who immerses themselves with unwavering commitment, for a fulfillment they can only get from this dynamic and interactive media. To that kind of gamer, the game is an essential part of their life, not just a side interest.

Maybe it's just the terminology which skews how we see the distinction and the projected attitude between these groups. I don't know, but maybe "recreational" and "enthusiast" would be more accurate adjectives. Hell if you consider there are more variable degrees of interest in between (that it's not just two extremes), you can add "journeyman" and "initiate" into the mix.

Rocker6

Not exactly...

Despite a lot of stupidity from fanboys and such,there still are many balanced and reasonable people here...

As for fanboys,I personally like them,they make me laugh...

Or maybe I'm just a masochist :lol: :P

That's kind of a ridiculous example, but i agree with your overall point. If this place had a rep system i would give you points.cfstar

d'awwww :oops:

Personally I don't like the term because it means so many things to so many different people. You'll never get a universal definition. My thought is simple, if you're interested in gaming and read up on it its something that is now one of your hobbies. If you own a system and play it but don't take anytime to research it, learn more about it and try and push your experiences further with increased knowledge you're just someone who plays games but doesn't view them as a hobby. Hardcore has too much tripe attached to it. Either you consider gaming a hobby, or you don't. What you play matters not because taste defines enjoyment and enjoyment is on an individual to individual basis.

I think in order to even be considered a hardcore gamer, you need to have a top end gaming PC. A real hardcore gamer would make ends meet to have one, and do whatever it takes to get one, saving money, getting 2 jobs, whatever.

I'm a hardcore gamer.

I get all the achievements.
I play COD.

Fvck casuals and Wii.
Energy drinks.

Fvck you, b!tch
HC Gamer4life

I would label anyone who spends a lot of their free time gaming and knows a lot about the industry and platforms and whatnot is a hardcore gamer.

I think in order to even be considered a hardcore gamer, you need to have a top end gaming PC. A real hardcore gamer would make ends meet to have one, and do whatever it takes to get one, saving money, getting 2 jobs, whatever.

arkephonic

This kind of attitude is in no way hardcore, enthusiast or any other term you'd like to describe passionate and dedicated. If you're saying gamers of only one platform (and I don't care if its Playstation, Nintendo, or Xbox either) can be considered such, then it isn't what you're saying it is, that's elitism. The worst kind of attitude that isn't worthy of any gamer or any platform.

That term again eh? alot of people see that label widely different. And I think age has a huge impact on how you look at the term amongst other things.

I will give a few examples below of, what I consider, not a hardcore gamer to me atleast, and one that is.

A Hardcore gamer is not: Someone who plays alot of gritty, bloody, "mature" fps games, these selfstyled hardcore gamers, usually only play the latest CoD or CoD look alike, they generally don't play alot of differnt things, and know very little about gaming at all. Thay are NOT a hardcore gamer. (This SW pretty much agrees on) They also tend to only know of the few games getting heavily advertised, and think most modern games "created" all new grounds, while in truth most things are recycled ideas, from 20+ years.

A Hardcore gamer is not: Someone who spend time reading up on sites like this, and play some genres religiously (they are however well informed gamers, and likely the healthiest of the lot) Most of people here tend to fall somewhere in here.

A Hardcore gamer is: Someone who will play just about anything, if a Barbie game has good gameplay? sure he/she is game, nomatter the genre, style, or substance. Someone who loves the games industry as a whole, and does not abide by most common sense, they are like those people who are obsessed with movies, and can name all actors and recreate every dialogue in a movie, and that might be what I consider a Hardcore gamer to be, obsessed, or near obsessed with gaming as a whole.

Ultimately the term "Hardcore gamer" has become a marketing spin for the industry, to make certain games appeal to people, to somehow try to make them seem as "legit top of the line must have games" such as BF, Coh, Halo and so on. So overall to alot of people "hardcore gamer" is someone who plays games, with a heap of violence, and colour grading ;) Someone who plays the overly violent (and ultimately utterly childish) games. They are not more or less hardcore then you TC, basketball games, requires just as much effort, and I would consider you an informed gamer, but try not to be swept away with the "hardcore" nonsense.

I assure you, my nephew is far more Hardcore and skilled then most the majority here I think, but since the games he plays have little blood, people would not consider him "hardcore" but dang that little kid rocks his Pokemon, Mario and Zelda games like a Champion, and with starteling near perfect playthroughs.

To me, it's the level before "pro gamer", meaning you're not a pro, but you're committed into putting a lot of effort to at least try to become a pro player. There are many different definitions, of course, and I don't claim that mine is better than someone else's.

I'm a hardcore gamer.

I get all the achievements.
I play COD.

Fvck casuals and Wii.
Energy drinks.

Fvck you, b!tch
HC Gamer4life

freedomfreak

That term again eh? alot of people see that label widely different. And I think age has a huge impact on how you look at the term amongst other things.

I will give a few examples below of, what I consider, not a hardcore gamer to me atleast, and one that is.

A Hardcore gamer is not: Someone who plays alot of gritty, bloody, "mature" fps games, these selfstyled hardcore gamers, usually only play the latest CoD or CoD look alike, they generally don't play alot of differnt things, and know very little about gaming at all. Thay are NOT a hardcore gamer. (This SW pretty much agrees on) They also tend to only know of the few games getting heavily advertised, and think most modern games "created" all new grounds, while in truth most things are recycled ideas, from 20+ years.

A Hardcore gamer is not: Someone who spend time reading up on sites like this, and play some genres religiously (they are however well informed gamers, and likely the healthiest of the lot) Most of people here tend to fall somewhere in here.

A Hardcore gamer is: Someone who will play just about anything, if a Barbie game has good gameplay? sure he/she is game, nomatter the genre, style, or substance. Someone who loves the games industry as a whole, and does not abide by most common sense, they are like those people who are obsessed with movies, and can name all actors and recreate every dialogue in a movie, and that might be what I consider a Hardcore gamer to be, obsessed, or near obsessed with gaming as a whole.

Ultimately the term "Hardcore gamer" has become a marketing spin for the industry, to make certain games appeal to people, to somehow try to make them seem as "legit top of the line must have games" such as BF, Coh, Halo and so on. So overall to alot of people "hardcore gamer" is someone who plays games, with a heap of violence, and colour grading ;) Someone who plays the overly violent (and ultimately utterly childish) games. They are not more or less hardcore then you TC, basketball games, requires just as much effort, and I would consider you an informed gamer, but try not to be swept away with the "hardcore" nonsense.

I assure you, my nephew is far more Hardcore and skilled then most the majority here I think, but since the games he plays have little blood, people would not consider him "hardcore" but dang that little kid rocks his Pokemon, Mario and Zelda games like a Champion, and with starteling near perfect playthroughs.

Maddie_Larkin

To be tru hardcore, u must b good enuf to make da epic montages like this

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="the_bi99man"]

One must care more about the games they play than about meaningless labels.

Rocker6

The point is,a label like "hardcore" sounds dumb as hell...

Read Adobe's post above,it's one of the best ones I saw on SW.Wouldn't it be better to use terms like "enthusiast gamer" for those heavily invested into the hobby,and "recreational gamer" for those who play rarely,and are less invested?

That sounds much better,IMO.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

I'm a hardcore gamer.

I get all the achievements.
I play COD.

Fvck casuals and Wii.
Energy drinks.

Fvck you, b!tch
HC Gamer4life

layton2012

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"] One of my friends might play 2-3 games an entire year. Another friend plays daily. Are they the same type of gamer? Of course not. Nothing wrong with using words to describe their level of interest. Cranler

The point is,a label like "hardcore" sounds dumb as hell...

Read Adobe's post above,it's one of the best ones I saw on SW.Wouldn't it be better to use terms like "enthusiast gamer" for those heavily invested into the hobby,and "recreational gamer" for those who play rarely,and are less invested?

That sounds much better,IMO.

Nah,it's fine.Not a big deal.

I play games,and I do it a lot,I don't waste time on labeling myself.

"Gamer" suits me just fine,even though I'd easily fit into the definition of "hardcore" above...

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

The point is,a label like "hardcore" sounds dumb as hell...

Read Adobe's post above,it's one of the best ones I saw on SW.Wouldn't it be better to use terms like "enthusiast gamer" for those heavily invested into the hobby,and "recreational gamer" for those who play rarely,and are less invested?

That sounds much better,IMO.

Rocker6

Nah,it's fine.Not a big deal.

I play games,and I do it a lot,I don't waste time on labeling myself.

"Gamer" suits me just fine,even though I'd easily fit into the definition of "hardcore" above...

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"] Recreation just means a hobby. Doesnt get into the level of interest. Casual is the term for someone who plays occasionally. Websters dictionary says hardcore is a fitting term so thats the end of it. You and Adobe can petition them since you have such a problem with the term hardcore for some reason. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hard-coreCranler

Nah,it's fine.Not a big deal.

I play games,and I do it a lot,I don't waste time on labeling myself.

"Gamer" suits me just fine,even though I'd easily fit into the definition of "hardcore" above...

I don't have a standardized name for them,I never think about it...

Classifications aren't my kind of thing.

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Nah,it's fine.Not a big deal.

I play games,and I do it a lot,I don't waste time on labeling myself.

"Gamer" suits me just fine,even though I'd easily fit into the definition of "hardcore" above...

Rocker6

I don't have a standardized name for them,I never think about it...

Classifications aren't my kind of thing.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"] Why do u waste your time on SW, if u don't mind me asking? This is a place for morons, why bother? Is it some kind of Florence Nightingale syndrome?AdobeArtist

Not exactly...

Despite a lot of stupidity from fanboys and such,there still are many balanced and reasonable people here...

As for fanboys,I personally like them,they make me laugh...

Or maybe I'm just a masochist :lol: :P

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

As expected, a lot of people will dismiss the term "hardcore" as a contrived label. Yet, not all gamers are equally vested in the pastime, and we need to recognize this difference in dedication.

Look at it this way. Would you say that the person who makes the occiassional outing with his friends to the basketball court is the same as someone who gets up at 5am 5 times a week and rigorously practices his skills? Is the average car owner the same as an enthusiast who methodically maintains his vehicle (from doing his own oil changes, to regular tire rotations, washing twice a week, and even upgrading components with aftermarket parts, etc...) and reads up on all the automotive magaiznes? How about the average movie goer compared to that afficionado who can recite (without going to IMDB) every oscar winner by year, and has a mental catalog of most actors filmography as well as directors works?

Lets face reality here. being involved in any given activity, not just video games but any you can think of, is not the same measure of involvement among all participants. And it certainly isn't just about how much time one spends on the given pastime, but I would say more about the emotional and to some degree financial investment.

There are the people who buy a $500 TV, and it's perfectly fine for their leisurely viewing experience, and would never consider spending more necessary, even undesirable in light of other priorities. Then you got the enthusiast for who the ultimate home theatre experience is top priority, and to that effect no amount of money matters to achieve said goal.

But key in the distinction is that afformentioned emotional investment. It's the difference of someone who plays for a momentary diversion, and the kind of gamer who immerses themselves with unwavering commitment, for a fulfillment they can only get from this dynamic and interactive media. To that kind of gamer, the game is an essential part of their life, not just a side interest.

Maybe it's just the terminology which skews how we see the distinction and the projected attitude between these groups. I don't know, but maybe "recreational" and "enthusiast" would be more accurate adjectives. Hell if you consider there are more variable degrees of interest in between (that it's not just two extremes), you can add "journeyman" and "initiate" into the mix.

Rocker6

Not exactly...

Despite a lot of stupidity from fanboys and such,there still are many balanced and reasonable people here...

As for fanboys,I personally like them,they make me laugh...