today marks the release of the jp version of pokemon heart gold/soul silver

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#51 Yandere
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] Hardly. The main series (not spin-off nor non-gaming related merch counted) are only 4 games (R/B/Y, G/S/C, R/S/E, P/D/Pl) and two remakes (FR/LG and HG/SS). That, in 10 years, is hardly saturation. The spin-offs are over saturated, that's true.dragonfly110

Making multiple versions of the same game and creating half hearted 'remakes' isn't saturating?

is anybody forcing you to buy all versions of the game? Its not like nintendo releasing multiple versions for yo u to choose from is a bad thing, if they only released one it would still get as many sales as both together.

Are they forcing me to? No

Is their intention to make me buy multiple copies? Yes

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#52 gamedude234
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

I know quite a lot, I have more then 5 pokemon games, I beat them all.. And how?

Plus all the toys/anime/music/movies they released.

Yandere

i was talking about the main series. not the spin offs. which pokemon games did you "beat"? what does it mean when you "beat" a pokemon game? When you beat the pkmn league?WRONG.

Beating the Pokemon league is beating the "main storyline" (though it isn't much of one) because there are little to no sub/mini quests that is beating the game.

you clerly haven't properly played pokemon then. D/P/Pt add an "infinite" amount of gameplay thanks to wi-fi battles. you clearly haven't battled competivly. so, please:GET LOST.

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#53 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]Making multiple versions of the same game and creating half hearted 'remakes' isn't saturating?IronBass
Not at all.

and these remakes are anyting but "half hearted" the ammount of new features is really impressive.
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#54 gamedude234
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Yandere"]Making multiple versions of the same game and creating half hearted 'remakes' isn't saturating?Shinobishyguy
Not at all.

and these remakes are anyting but "half hearted" the ammount of new features is really impressive.

exactly my point. half hearted remakes? thats final fantasy. NOT pokemon

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#55 ultraking
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pokemon? people still care about pokemon? really?!?!

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and these remakes are anyting but "half hearted" the ammount of new features is really impressive.Shinobishyguy
Especially in the case of HG/SS. Fans (myself included) have been asking for this since FR/LG were released.
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#57 Yandere
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

i was talking about the main series. not the spin offs. which pokemon games did you "beat"? what does it mean when you "beat" a pokemon game? When you beat the pkmn league?WRONG.

gamedude234

Beating the Pokemon league is beating the "main storyline" (though it isn't much of one) because there are little to no sub/mini quests that is beating the game.

you clerly haven't properly played pokemon then. D/P/Pt add an "infinite" amount of gameplay thanks to wi-fi battles. you clearly haven't battled competivly. so, please:GET LOST.

An 'infinite' amount of gameplay? Having online matches with people from around the world that all have level 99 pokemon (and a good chance use action replay or some other program) adds a life time of replay value? I doubt it, other RPGs have online fighting, but they all have better combat.

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#58 Yandere
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="IronBass"] Not at all.gamedude234

and these remakes are anyting but "half hearted" the ammount of new features is really impressive.

exactly my point. half hearted remakes? thats final fantasy. NOT pokemon

I hate Final Fantasy, but they add new characters, add a new story, and most of the time drastically change the combat system.. Pokemon doesn't compare.

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#59 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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pokemon? people still care about pokemon? really?!?!

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In short: HELL YES. A lot of people. Pearl and Diamond are among the best selling DS titles, and Platinum was first on the charts for several weeks. HG/SS are considered by most fans the best of the series, so you can bet a lot of people care for these ones.
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#60 nintendoboy16
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Excited? No, it's just like ****ing Guitar Hero.

Yandere

You know, I used to care about this milkage. But now I don't care anymore. Why? Because if something is very popular, there is alot of things being made of it. Look at Dragon Ball, Naruto, Mario, Zelda, Metroid,and Sonic. They all have a ton of games like Guitar Hero and Pokemon do, but if you don't like a certain game, who said you have to buy it?

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#61 Dystopian-X
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[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"] and these remakes are anyting but "half hearted" the ammount of new features is really impressive.Yandere

exactly my point. half hearted remakes? thats final fantasy. NOT pokemon

I hate Final Fantasy, but they add new characters, add a new story, and most of the time drastically change the combat system.. Pokemon doesn't compare.

Pokemon adds new...Pokemons, trainers.....and story too! 2/3, pretty comparable.

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I doubt itYandere
Tell that to the millions of people that play it online. :?
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#63 skelebull3000
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In what ways does it differ from the old Gold/Silver versions?

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#64 gamedude234
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[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

Beating the Pokemon league is beating the "main storyline" (though it isn't much of one) because there are little to no sub/mini quests that is beating the game.

Yandere

you clerly haven't properly played pokemon then. D/P/Pt add an "infinite" amount of gameplay thanks to wi-fi battles. you clearly haven't battled competivly. so, please:GET LOST.

An 'infinite' amount of gameplay? Having online matches with people from around the world that all have level 99 pokemon (and a good chance use action replay or some other program) adds a life time of replay value? I doubt it, other RPGs have online fighting, but they all have better combat.

actually, AR obtained pokemon are not allowed on wi-fi. get your facts right. you obviusly don't know anything about pokemon, or RPGs in general. Isuppose you hate TWEWY as well. you are a one in amillion person.my Congratsto you!(sarcasm)you can't stand pokemon. not everybody LOVES pokemon, but they're OK with it. so, i repeatGET LOST.

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#65 Yandere
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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

exactly my point. half hearted remakes? thats final fantasy. NOT pokemon

Dystopian-X

I hate Final Fantasy, but they add new characters, add a new story, and most of the time drastically change the combat system.. Pokemon doesn't compare.

Pokemon adds new...Pokemons, trainers.....and story too! 2/3, pretty comparable.

Trainers? That's pretty much creating a character and reusing him at least 50 times throughout the whole game, then Final Fantasy creates new pedestrians for you to talk to.. And the story? "Leave your house to become a pokemon master, oh no some organization is doing something bad, beat them, beat the pokemon league", I wouldn't count that as a new story.

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#66 gamedude234
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In what ways does it differ from the old Gold/Silver versions?

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better graphics, 493 pokemon, and best of all: the POKEWALKER. google it if you don't know what it is.

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#67 clubsammich91
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When will people STOP BUYING THE SAME GAME OVER AND OVER AGAIN!
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#68 gamedude234
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[QUOTE="Dystopian-X"]

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

I hate Final Fantasy, but they add new characters, add a new story, and most of the time drastically change the combat system.. Pokemon doesn't compare.

Yandere

Pokemon adds new...Pokemons, trainers.....and story too! 2/3, pretty comparable.

Trainers? That's pretty much creating a character and reusing him at least 50 times throughout the whole game, then Final Fantasy creates new pedestrians for you to talk to.. And the story? "Leave your house to become a pokemon master, oh no some organization is doing something bad, beat them, beat the pokemon league", I wouldn't count that as a new story.

its the same story that keep fans coming back. if you want a break, get pokemon mystery dugeon1/2/3, or pokemon ranger 1/2. all of them are great games. "some orginization is doing something bad?" THEY'RE DESTROYING THE WORLD!

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When will people STOP BUYING THE SAME GAME OVER AND OVER AGAIN! clubsammich91

what a sophisticated sentence! the same game? no. what about the pokewalker? can you find something more original?

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#70 Silverbond
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When will people STOP BUYING THE SAME GAME OVER AND OVER AGAIN! clubsammich91

When the games actually start becoming the same over and over again. :|

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#71 skelebull3000
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[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]

In what ways does it differ from the old Gold/Silver versions?

gamedude234

better graphics, 493 pokemon, and best of all: the POKEWALKER. google it if you don't know what it is.

I haven't played pokemon since Crystal so I was a little curious :P

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[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]When will people STOP BUYING THE SAME GAME OVER AND OVER AGAIN! gamedude234

what a sophisticated sentence! the same game? no. what about the pokewalker? can you find something more original?

Haha no thanks not walking around with a plastic pokeball in my pocket... ill still get the gold one >.>
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#73 ArisShadows
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Can't wait.. Soul Silver FTW!
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#74 gamedude234
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[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]When will people STOP BUYING THE SAME GAME OVER AND OVER AGAIN! SAGE_OF_FIRE

what a sophisticated sentence! the same game? no. what about the pokewalker? can you find something more original?

Haha no thanks not walking around with a plastic pokeball in my pocket... ill still get the gold one >.>

when you go grocery shopping, you can be training a pokemon at the same time. when you go for a daily half-hour run(which you should)you can be training your pokemon. whats wrong with that?Ifind it great. like other pokefans.

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Trainers? That's pretty much creating a character and reusing him at least 50 times throughout the whole game, then Final Fantasy creates new pedestrians for you to talk to.. And the story? "Leave your house to become a pokemon master, oh no some organization is doing something bad, beat them, beat the pokemon league", I wouldn't count that as a new story.

Yandere

The pedestrians in pokemon are new too : O and don't forget the Profesor he is new always new too.

FF = Become Hero, travel the world, defeat villain, I wouldn't call that a new story either z:

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#76 Yandere
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[QUOTE="gamedude234"] [QUOTE="Yandere"] [QUOTE="gamedude234"] you clerly haven't properly played pokemon then. D/P/Pt add an "infinite" amount of gameplay thanks to wi-fi battles. you clearly haven't battled competivly. so, please:GET LOST.

An 'infinite' amount of gameplay? Having online matches with people from around the world that all have level 99 pokemon (and a good chance use action replay or some other program) adds a life time of replay value? I doubt it, other RPGs have online fighting, but they all have better combat.

actually, AR obtained pokemon are not allowed on wi-fi. get your facts right. you obviusly don't know anything about pokemon, or RPGs in general. Isuppose you hate TWEWY as well. you are a one in amillion person.my Congratsto you!(sarcasm)you can't stand pokemon. not everybody LOVES pokemon, but they're OK with it. so, i repeatGET LOST.

Oh, so I don't know about RPGs in general? So I'm guessing you know a lot about: アニーのアトリエ ~セラ島の錬金術士 (Atelier Annie: Alchemists of Sera Island), 世界樹の迷宮 (Etrian Odyssey 1/2), 幻霧ノ塔ト剣ノ掟 (The Dark Spire), タクティクスレイヤー ~リティナガード戦記~ (Tactics Layer: Ritina Guard Senki), トリニティ・ユニバース (Trinity Universe), ティアーズ トゥ ティアラ 花冠の大地 (Tears to Tiara: Kakan no Daichi), シャイニング・フォース フェザー (Shining Force Feather), Nega0, etc?
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Im not sure why so many people wanted a remake, anyway il probly end up playing it.

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[QUOTE="gamedude234"] [QUOTE="Yandere"] An 'infinite' amount of gameplay? Having online matches with people from around the world that all have level 99 pokemon (and a good chance use action replay or some other program) adds a life time of replay value? I doubt it, other RPGs have online fighting, but they all have better combat. Yandere
actually, AR obtained pokemon are not allowed on wi-fi. get your facts right. you obviusly don't know anything about pokemon, or RPGs in general. Isuppose you hate TWEWY as well. you are a one in amillion person.my Congratsto you!(sarcasm)you can't stand pokemon. not everybody LOVES pokemon, but they're OK with it. so, i repeatGET LOST.

Oh, so I don't know about RPGs in general? So I'm guessing you know a lot about: アニーのアトリエ ~セラ島の錬金術士 (Atelier Annie: Alchemists of Sera Island), 世界樹の迷宮 (Etrian Odyssey 1/2), 幻霧ノ塔ト剣ノ掟 (The Dark Spire), タクティクスレイヤー ~リティナガード戦記~ (Tactics Layer: Ritina Guard Senki), トリニティ・ユニバース (Trinity Universe), ティアーズ トゥ ティアラ 花冠の大地 (Tears to Tiara: Kakan no Daichi), シャイニング・フォース フェザー (Shining Force Feather), Nega0, etc?

yeah... so, how about NOT JAPANESE ONLYGAMES please. thats not my area

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#79 Alpha-Male22
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My favorite Hand held game of all time. Pokemon. Oh how I will never tire of you, despite you milking your users like there's no tomorrow.

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[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]When will people STOP BUYING THE SAME GAME OVER AND OVER AGAIN! gamedude234

what a sophisticated sentence! the same game? no. what about the pokewalker? can you find something more original?

You can't argue that the series hasn't really taken any giant leaps forward since the original. It's still the same top-down 2D game were we put furry little animals into red and white colored balls and then train them till our thumbs go numb.

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[QUOTE="Yandere"][QUOTE="gamedude234"] actually, AR obtained pokemon are not allowed on wi-fi. get your facts right. you obviusly don't know anything about pokemon, or RPGs in general. Isuppose you hate TWEWY as well. you are a one in amillion person.my Congratsto you!(sarcasm)you can't stand pokemon. not everybody LOVES pokemon, but they're OK with it. so, i repeatGET LOST. gamedude234

Oh, so I don't know about RPGs in general? So I'm guessing you know a lot about: アニーのアトリエ ~セラ島の錬金術士 (Atelier Annie: Alchemists of Sera Island), 世界樹の迷宮 (Etrian Odyssey 1/2), 幻霧ノ塔ト剣ノ掟 (The Dark Spire), タクティクスレイヤー ~リティナガード戦記~ (Tactics Layer: Ritina Guard Senki), トリニティ・ユニバース (Trinity Universe), ティアーズ トゥ ティアラ 花冠の大地 (Tears to Tiara: Kakan no Daichi), シャイニング・フォース フェザー (Shining Force Feather), Nega0, etc?

yeah... so, how about NOT JAPANESE ONLYGAMES please. thats not my area

Atelier Annie: Alchemists of Sera Island, Etrian Odyssey 1/2, and The Dark Spire aren't Japanese only, there way more then that also.. You just don't know much about niche games.

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Have the sprites been changed? because all the new ones were lame
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Have the sprites been changed? because all the new ones were lame SAGE_OF_FIRE
some of them got new poses and such.
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#84 Yandere
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Have the sprites been changed? because all the new ones were lame SAGE_OF_FIRE
For the pokemon and/or trainers?

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In what ways does it differ from the old Gold/Silver versions?

skelebull3000

updated graphics more pokemon (although Id rather it if they just kept it Johto and Kanto like the original G/S) different story (seeing as Lance is a rocket admin now it seems different at least.) pokewalker, pokemon follow you, more rivals. And some more minor things I think.

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#86 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]

In what ways does it differ from the old Gold/Silver versions?

updated graphics more pokemon (although Id rather it if they just kept it Johto and Kanto like the original G/S) different story (seeing as Lance is a rocket admin now it seems different at least.) pokewalker, pokemon follow you, more rivals. And some more minor things I think.

there's a battle frontier as well
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#87 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="skelebull3000"]

In what ways does it differ from the old Gold/Silver versions?

Shinobishyguy

updated graphics more pokemon (although Id rather it if they just kept it Johto and Kanto like the original G/S) different story (seeing as Lance is a rocket admin now it seems different at least.) pokewalker, pokemon follow you, more rivals. And some more minor things I think.

there's a battle frontier as well

ah, I forgot that wasnt in G/S, lol it had been in every one since then pretty much :P

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#88 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

updated graphics more pokemon (although Id rather it if they just kept it Johto and Kanto like the original G/S) different story (seeing as Lance is a rocket admin now it seems different at least.) pokewalker, pokemon follow you, more rivals. And some more minor things I think.

dragonfly110

there's a battle frontier as well

ah, I forgot that wasnt in G/S, lol it had been in every one since then pretty much :P

actually I think it's the same frontier as in platinum.

still better than a kick in the pants.

Hell the whole "any pokemon can follow you" think sold me on it.

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#89 ArisShadows
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Why are complaining about Pokemon, it does enough for what people want out of it, its not for its grand story with deep twists and turns. Its for a simple pokemon trainer's adventure. What people are looking in for a game like this is well battling and raising new pokemon, seeing what is new in this world. Don't say there isn't nothing new. Moves change, statatics change, pokemon abilities and powers change, new ones are introduced, new mechanics enter in, new pokemon are introduced, new moves. You have a new adventure to follow through, new mechanics, and overall the pokemon in general change. This can be similiar to that of how any game evolve. Each step of the series gives something new that the others didnt have. Its not oversaturated, at least its main games are't. So stop complaining about pokemon.
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Pokemon is awesome.
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#91 Jfisch93
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people, this is no rehash. IT"S THE MOTHER****ING REMAKE of the best pokemon games ever, Gold and Silver!!

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#92 Renegade_Fury
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Not really, I still have the original gold, silver, and crystal games. Are the new versions any different aside from what I'm assuming the addition of double battles?

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#93 ArisShadows
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Not really, I still have the original gold, silver, and crystal games. Are the new versions any different aside from what I'm assuming the addition of double battles?

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#96 OreoMilkshake
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In what ways does it differ from the old Gold/Silver versions?

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These ways.

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#97 shakmaster13
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

tell me, how much do you really know about pokemon? have you actually played it? have you seen all the great features HG and SS have? like all pokemon games. they always bring something new. why do you think its an over-saturated RPG?

gamedude234

ORLY??? lol

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ok... soooo, you don't think trading pokemon with someone in australia when you could be in france? OK... someone can't socialize... bidoof: any pokemon can be strong if train correctly. also, MANY NEWCOMERS WANT TO KNOW HOW TO ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME!!! why do you think they put in the intro? to bore you? "the last 20 games". WRONG. also, pokemon is spelt wrong. please don'tpost rubbish like this. it shows how immature you are. which nobody wants to know.

Why are you getting defensive over this? "someone can't socialize" lol

Well that someone must be you since you are taking this game way too seriously. The sun is good for you, it gives your skin some nutrients or something. Unless you are a vampire ofc.

And the only pokemon game I would ever consider buying after crystal would be a remake of crystal. Not excited for this at all.

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#98 gamedude234
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[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

ORLY??? lol

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shakmaster13

ok... soooo, you don't think trading pokemon with someone in australia when you could be in france? OK... someone can't socialize... bidoof: any pokemon can be strong if train correctly. also, MANY NEWCOMERS WANT TO KNOW HOW TO ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME!!! why do you think they put in the intro? to bore you? "the last 20 games". WRONG. also, pokemon is spelt wrong. please don'tpost rubbish like this. it shows how immature you are. which nobody wants to know.

Why are you getting defensive over this? "someone can't socialize" lol

Well that someone must be you since you are taking this game way too seriously. The sun is good for you, it gives your skin some nutrients or something. Unless you are a vampire ofc.

And the only pokemon game I would ever consider buying after crystal would be a remake of crystal. Not excited for this at all.

you could say the same thing about him. and don't tell me to get some sun. i live in italy and just moved from australia.

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#99 gamedude234
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Not really, I still have the original gold, silver, and crystal games. Are the new versions any different aside from what I'm assuming the addition of double battles?

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493 pokemon, pokethlon, gts, pokemon follow you, and the pokewalker. there are many more, but i can't list them all